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I've finally made the official major tier list using actual research made by professionals.

You will find that this list is much harsher than your typical list and that is on purpose. I see no reason to protect the feelings of people who make bad decisions.

If you are in this list then congrats, if not then it is time to pull the trigger.

>> No.8247772

>want to go into a physics program
>everyone is telling me to go into engineering because muh employment

>> No.8247783

>>8247772
>went into EEng (I have considered physics but muh employment, and electronics looked interesting)
>starting PhD this year, and regretting I didn't go into physics after all
Just follow your dreams anon, you're fucked either way.

>> No.8247788

>>8247772
Physics is still great tier which means that it has a fairly high salary and employment rate.

Engineering is objectively better though.

>> No.8247803

>cognitive science
What do you do with a major like that?
What makes it different from regular psychology?

>> No.8247804

>>8247788

The standard is pay and employment statistics.

I wonder if there is a genuine tier list for course content.

>> No.8247825

Is EE really this good or I am falling for a dumb meme in believing I will not actually be starving after finishing this major?

>> No.8247828

>>8247825

The metric used to measure is pay and employment. Nothing else.

>> No.8247834

>>8247803
I have no fucking idea, I just know that it is on the list.

Cognitive Science is at spot 20 while Psychology is at the 200th spot.

Looking at the deeper payscale stats it shows that the main job Cognitive Scientists are getting is Software Engineering. That kinda explains why they are making 6 figures (102k according to research).

That probably sounds like maybe behavioral research using computer models which obviously makes tons of money. This implies that Cognitive Science studies a lot more of mathematics and mathematical modelling in general.

On the other hand, the jobs Psychologists get are in HR departments, Management, etc. Positions that are just the usual needs of a company and that need little to no technical skill in anything.

>> No.8247844

>>8247834
>Looking at the deeper payscale stats it shows that the main job Cognitive Scientists are getting is Software Engineering. That kinda explains why they are making 6 figures (102k according to research).

Same for Math I bet. I am a bit skeptical that math should be so high though (math major here).

>> No.8247849

>>8247844
And finance for math majors too, obviously

>> No.8247853

>>8247844
The first appearance of mathematics in the list is at the 4th spot.

After that CS & Mathematics appears maybe at the 10th.

Then Applied Mathematics at the 20th

Then Mathematics at the 30th

As I said, to not saturate the list with the same degree over and over I put the general field at the first spot it appeared. If I hadn't then mathematics would have been in this list maybe 5 times.

>> No.8247855

>>8247696
There's really no difference between aerospace and aeronautical engineering. Taking a few classes about satellites isn't going to make you shit at designing planes.

>> No.8247857

>>8247834

Cognitive is uses quantitative analysis while psychology uses qualitatuve analysis. One is based on math and statistics and the other is based on feelings.

>> No.8247926

>>8247853
okay. averaging would have been more accurate in this case.

>> No.8247935

How is it being a Software Engineer? Worth pursuing?

>> No.8247939

>>8247935
Lucrative, but math is more fun IMO.

>> No.8247977

>>8247857
Except this is false entirely. You're thinking of clinical psychology. Medicine is to biomedical science what clinical psychology is to cognitive psychology. One is the application of the other.

>> No.8248005

>>8247696
Wait, so all this time, you guys were rating majors by level of income?

I always assumed you guys had a massive hard on for things like 'scientific rigor' or the amount of math involved. I never figured you guys for a bunch of materialistic shekel hoarders.

>> No.8248107

>>8248005
>rigor
I don't think that any of the majors of that list are going to be easy.

>> No.8248118

>>8248005
a biology degree is all well and good but struggling to find a job after 4+ years of school is probably not very fun

>> No.8248128

>>8247696
Where is medicine?

>> No.8248131

>>8247788
Quantim computing physics is pretty top teir. Its ee for smart people.

>> No.8248132

So how different is Cognitive Science from Neuroscience? I know psychology is basically a meme compared to those two, but I don't know much about their differences.

Is neuro not on the degree list because it's a fairly new bachelor? Or is it just another way to call cogsci?

>> No.8248138

>>8248118
But a bio degree that leads you to medical school will net you more income than any of the unbelievable tier jobs. Unless this list completely assumes you never go on for further degrees.

>> No.8248142

>>8247783
>starting PhD this year, and regretting I didn't go into physics after all
In engineering or physics?

I saw people who did at least their bsc in EE and later they did their phd in (applied) physics.

There is plenty of physics like opportunities in EE. (Although this depends on your uni. too.)

So are you sure you researched your opportunities properly? If not, then do it now, there may still be an easier way to go into physics than restarting. Probably you could do an msc in physics to get into the physics side either way.

>> No.8248143

>>8248132
Cognitive psychology, cognitive science and cognitive neuroscience are pretty comparable. I share an office with the former two, and I'm a neuroscientist myself.

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>>8247696
Geology doesn't appear anywhere

>> No.8248173

>>8248166
>geology
>being employed

>> No.8248202

>>8248173
there's two kinds of geoloscientists:
-the kind that go into gas and oil exploration, which are basically the same as petroleum engineers for purposes of the list
-the kind that go into academia and study interesting things but don't make that much emone

guess which one I am

>> No.8248210

>>8248202
Isn't there a comfy job waiting for me at the USGS? (U.S Geological Survey, for you non-Americans)

>> No.8248345

>>8247803
User experience design/research

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>>8248132
Cognitive science is interdisciplinary. It's made up of neuroscience, psychology and computer science.

>> No.8248367

>>8248128
I am sure doctors are not a bachelors degree.

Payscale does have them in the master and doctorate list though, obviously.

>> No.8248397

>>8248142
>I saw people who did at least their bsc in EE and later they did their phd in (applied) physics.
Here in Europe (or at least my country) you have to do MSc before PhD. And on my university they prefer to take people with the same MSc.

>So are you sure you researched your opportunities properly?
I have, and I'm going to do a more or less physics-related PhD (optics), but it's just I'm annoyed that a good portion of what I've learned in the last five years is going to be useless to me, and that I have to self-teach myself a lot to catch up (I've been to some optics/photonics conferences and felt like a trained monkey when the guys were talking about laser-operated quantum memories and whatnot)

>> No.8248401

>>8247696
Where's Biotechnology anon?

>> No.8248410

>>8248401
That sounds like a meme.

Biomedical Engineering is there so if you are aiming to specialize in that then I guess you are not so bad.

If not then research says you will be poor.

>> No.8248421

>>8248401

Biotech is halfway through Biology and Biochem. It's applying the concepts you see in the system in the real world, so at best you can go to a pharma.

>> No.8248426

>>8248401
>>8248410
And from what I've heard from numerous amount of my friends who've gone into Biomedical Engi, don't do it. Apparently, the professional field is still many years from being a viable career for most graduates.
Unless you're a super student, consider another engineering major, biochem, or general bio.

Again, this is just personal experience though. I don't have the job statistics.

>> No.8249809

>not doing a single major and a shitload of electives

>> No.8249818

I have been told now repeatedly by both faculty and alums over several years now that Chemical Engineering is not nearly as lucrative as it was 10 years ago which makes the effort to reward pretty much as low as possible.

I've heard the exact opposite about Geology

>>8247772
Do some internships on the side. Otherwise you will wind up trying to get "data science" jobs and that entire occupation will literally be obsoleted in like 5 years by computer programs.

>> No.8249838

Majoring in Finance, plan to do MBA or MFin later, should I bother with another major/minors

>> No.8249862

>>8247696
I love math but how is it paying as well as electrical engineering and petroleum engineering?

>> No.8249881

> tfw BEng in EE already done, 2.93 GPA
> doing MEng now
I think I'll be alright.

>> No.8249898

>>8249862
>I love math but how is it paying as well as electrical engineering and petroleum engineering?

Finance industry

>> No.8249904

>>8249898

Finance =/= math

That is like saying physics gets paid lots of money because electrical engineering is a subset of physics.

>> No.8249970

>>8249904
>That is like saying physics gets paid lots of money because electrical engineering is a subset of physics.

That's where they hire from.

>> No.8249975

>>8247788
this. you can always get a job as a physicist with your engr degree, and even vice versa, but engr offers more job prospects if you can't find your dream job in phys

>> No.8249976

>>8247696
>EE is unbelievable tier

the ride just goes on and on

>> No.8249997

Is Molecular Biology really this bad? I think DNA and genetics stuff are amazing thing to study, why is it on suicide tier?

>> No.8250005

>>8249997
Never mind, I missed the fact that it's employment chart.

>> No.8250248

>>8248397
I didn't see your post, if you're still here though...

I'm from Europe too, but it greatly depends on which country we're talking about so I can't say anything about that.

Well, I learned in my studies that if you want to be a good engineer you need to teach yourself physics, because all the great knowledgeable guys know physics and you will need it for more advanced positions like design, R&D and similar shit. In this perspective engineering is almost too broad.

That's the pitfall of engineering you need more physics than you first thought or you might need "almost none" depending on the path you choose.

However, if your target is the physics side then most likely you will be able to go that way during/after your phd. Actively focus on it.

Yet, I don't know the entirety of your situation so this might be a long shot, but I have a strong guess that your EE training will come in handy. View it like you know things from the applied side all the way to the theoretical side and that certainly will give you an edge with some jobs (interdisciplinary stuff, systems engineering).

So... good luck to you and don't give up even if it gets harder.

>> No.8250255

>>8247696

>finally decide to lurk this board
>see this thread
>pleasantly surprised to see my major in 'good' tier

Econ undergrad, finance MS and possibly MBA down the road here

>> No.8250266

>>8248166
Seriously, I would like to see society get by without us Geologists.

What are you going to make things out of, eh OP?

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>>8249862
There are many professions in mathematics that make a lot of money and it all has to do with how you specialize and sell yourself as mathematician to your employers.

The best of the best is actuary and you will see that in the payscale research 'Actuarial mathematics' is the degree at 4th place, with other mathematics following not much behind that.

Anyways. check out this other piece of payscale research in pic related to see where the money is being proven to exist in the pockets of mathematicians.

>> No.8250274

>>8250267
>mathematicians doing anything besides research
How depressing.

>> No.8250282

>>8250274
I would think that research is not for everyone.

I am majoring in mathematics (second semester) and honestly I am already sure about not going to grad school and becoming an academia researcher. However, I am interested in research in general and my goal is to do private research in a company making the big bucks.

If you ask me, data scientist, quantitative analyst, data modeler and statistician sound like they can easily become 'applied researcher' positions if you are with the right employer.

Not to mention, 6 figures.

>> No.8250302

>>8250282

Data scientists will be replaced by computer algorithms in less than 5 years.

>> No.8250305

>>8250302
If a profession is to be replaced by algorithms then that means algorithms will be in high demand.

Oh, Data Scientists make algorithms which implies they will also be in high demand.

Good thing I know how economy works too. That said, Data Science is a shit profession with, in my opinion, a really shitty culture surrounding it.

>> No.8250306

>>8250302
no

>> No.8250314

>>8250306
http://news.mit.edu/2015/automating-big-data-analysis-1016

2/3 the way there already
The human element is literally analogous to using pictures in captchas.

>>8250305
Sure, but not nearly as many "data scientists" as are currently employed. It'll be 1-2 companies that sell out software to everybody else.

>> No.8250320

Is anybody here in chemical engineering MSc or PhD?

Would you guys say it's worth it? Not really looking forward to working in a factory for my entire life fixing condom manufacturing processes for optimum feels.

>> No.8250321

>>8247696
>another "my majot is better than yours" thread
Grow up.

t. Computer Scientist

>> No.8250336

>>8250314
>It'll be 1-2 companies that sell out software to everybody else.

I doubt this.

Hiring a guy or a small team of people inside your company to do data science costs less that hiring an outside company to do it.

Why? Because the outside company needs to make a profit out of its data scientist's work which means that you will pay more to them than they pay to their own teams. In your company your data science people just need to be paid the normal wages for the profession because you do not need to make a profit out of them.

So you would be losing money by hiring another company instead of having your own internal team.

Plus, you would trust more the work of someone who knows the inner workings of your business than someone outside who barely got an explanation and then started writing code.

Inside data scientists will always be prefered.

Companies like what you describe probably will only develop tools that will aid data scientists, nto replace them. But maybe those tools will decrease the amount of data scientists needed per business.

>> No.8250344

>>8250336
>Companies like what you describe probably will only develop tools that will aid data scientists, nto replace them. But maybe those tools will decrease the amount of data scientists needed per business.

Its not tools, itll literally be algorithms sitting as code that will do all the work it takes a data scientist MONTHS to do in a manner of hours.

As I said, what has happened is basically what happened to 'catpchas'. They were originally devised to force pattern recognition in images that humans at one time performed better than machines at. Now computers are able to defeat most of those entirely which is why captchas are getting so increasingly bizarre.

And this "pattern recognition" is literally what data science is. There is very little room for creativity where brute force can work and work well.

>> No.8250345

Finance should be God tier.

I study Finance and Mathematics (two degrees) but I think that Finance is one of the best undergraduate degrees you can get if it's from a good school. I mean, I have friends that have graduated and immediately out of school make $150 USD in Manhattan.

>> No.8250358

>>8250345
>and immediately out of school make $150 USD in Manhattan.
Yeah... but it's Manhattan.

>> No.8250369

>>8250358

I mean some work in San Francisco, others in Toronto (I go to a Canadian school). Of course, the cost of living in all of these places is high, but regardless of that the sheer opportunity for advancement and the monetary benefits it entails are unprecedented in the field of finance.

After 6-7 years in investment banking (late 20s), it is not uncommon for an individual to be promoted into a VP position and make over 300k.

Of course, you're literally selling your soul. You work non-stop and mostly, your work isn't very meaningful. But if you are in it for the money, there is no better place than finance and investment banking specifically.

I chose to study math so that I could do some more substantial work and also fall back on mathematical experience if and when the financial sector collapses.

>> No.8250387

>>8250369
What school? Rotmann/Queen's Commerce?

I'm a chem eng at Queen's and most commerce people here go to Toronto and international when finishing.

Know one guy in Hong Kong and another in Singapore. Soul less guys for sure, only see competition and money.

>> No.8250401

>>8250369
You sound pretty Waterloo to me if you're talking about the San Francisco Bay Area. UofT isn't known much around here.

>> No.8250402

>>8250387

I actually do go to Queens, lol. But yeah, out of the people going into high finance from most graduating classes, I'd say about ~60% go to Toronto, ~30% go to New York, ~10% go elsewhere.

Personally I'm not trying to go to the states or internationally, the workload, competition and isolation is not appealing. But there are people who, at the end of the day, just want to make themselves rich.

>> No.8250406

>>8250401

For finance I know primarily Ivey (western) and Queen's students going to SF. For software eng though, I have many friends from waterloo both in and aspiring to be in the bay area, though.

U of T is pretty clear-cut in being the best at the humanities, medicine, certain types of engineering, but not really CS or Finance.

>> No.8250409

>>8247825
you certainly won't be starving
but the fact that it ranks highest on every chart we have here at sci is probably a meme

>> No.8250412

>>8250406
I see, my bad then. I work as a software engineer here in the Bay Area and some of the interns I've worked with are from Waterloo, in fact the internship program is what they're known for.

>> No.8250449
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8250449

>mfw an undergrad was autistic and stupid near me

Please leave this board and come back when you've actually accomplished something.

>> No.8250452

>>8250449

>over the age of 24 and on 4chan

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8250466

>>8247696
>Doing a PhD in chemistry in a materials science project

Where do I fall?

Also, there was another list I saw before that currently holds the record for best list so far. It took into account the degrees success at the bachelors level, and gave exceptions and tier bumps based on if you had a higher level degree or not. This is a serious concern for me since B.Sc. chemistry is waaaay different from PhD. I know you specified bachelors degrees in your chart, I'm just saying that more all-encompassing ones exist.

>> No.8250476

I have a philosophy degree and work as a chemist for the government.

Sophistry > Knowledge when it comes to finding lucrative employment these days. Gotta bullshit with the best of them.

>> No.8250501

>>8250466
>Doing a PhD in chemistry in a materials science project
>Where do I fall?
Say hello to your replacement Raheed from India. He's staying over with an H1B Visa to do your job much cheaper. For other jobs you better be top 1% of your class because there aren't many.

>> No.8250523

>>8247803
It's essentially neuroscience, but heavily linked with computer science.

There are two schools of AI, the traditional side, in which the goal is to get programs to act rationally, and the cognitive science side, in which the goal is to create a digital brain. If you've ever read anything about people modeling neurons/brains in computers that's done by cognitive scientists

>> No.8250526

>>8247935
Computer engineer is more worthwhile, will let you get inside and outside the box

>> No.8250533

Are you aware that this world needs cleaners?
And those cleaners should not consider suicide, because I don't want to live in shit.

Don't listen to OP at this matter, he didn't think this through, respect to all hard workers out there.

>> No.8250536

>>8247696
>If you are in this list then congrats, if not then it is time to pull the trigger.
>Makes list with very few majors.
Shit list.

>> No.8250539

>>8250536
>>Makes list with very few majors.
>Shit list.
Implying there aren't many degrees which aren't better used as toilet paper

>> No.8250572

>>8250539

Are you dissing workers at McDonalds?

Those guys are mostly cool, I need them.

>> No.8250610

what about women studies majors? i think we should be even above the unbelievable tier

>> No.8250621

>>8247696
>much harsher
>puts shitty engineerings above physics
>puts shitty engineerings at the same level of master race math

real list:

God tier:
Pure math, Theoretical physics
High tier:
Applied math, Applied physics, Theoretical computer science, chemistry
Mid tier:
Engineering (all), biology, ecology, geology, medicine
Low tier:
"Computer science", finance & economics, accounting, pseudo-engineering and pseudo-science like "industrial engineering", "Supply chain management" and shit
Shit tier:
Everything else if I didn't miss something

>> No.8250622

>>8250621
you forgot what >>8250610 said

>> No.8250624

>>8250610
>>8250621

READ THE FUCKING INFOGRAPH YOU MONGOLOIDS

>> No.8250630

>>8250624
which one

>> No.8250631

>money is everything: the thread

every single time, lmao. you virgins are retarded

>money is everything: the thread

every single time, lmao. you virgins are retarded

>money is everything: the thread

every single time, lmao. you virgins are retarded

>money is everything: the thread

every single time, lmao. you virgins are retarded

>> No.8250633

>>8250624
lmao triggered by female empowerment huh?

>> No.8250635

>>8250630

>>8247696
>This list was compiled from objective Payscale research that ranks bachelor degrees on how much their holders are earning immediately out of school and then a couple of years down the line.

>> No.8250639

>>8250635
yeah but you dont take into account how women only get 40 cents per dollar a male makes

>> No.8250644

>>8250635
>ranks bachelor degrees on how much their holders are earning immediately out of school and then a couple of years down the line

hahahaha holy shit
>hurr I earn more than a pure math major so i'm better!
>t.faggot brainlet

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8250655

>>8250644
>pretends to be superior for earning the most autistic degree possible
>is starving to death in a shitty apartment in Chicago

kek

>> No.8250660

>>8250639
>40 cents to the dollar
That's true, but most women's studies majors work at Starbucks, where even men earn like $10 bucks an hour max.

>> No.8250663

>>8250660
thats oppressive

>> No.8250683

>>8250655
>I-I still h-have more money than you!
b r a i n l e t

>> No.8250688

>>8250683
if you are so smart, why are you poor?

>> No.8250692

>>8250688
im not, I live very comfortably actually.

>> No.8250695

>>8250692
i have a womens studies degree and i make millions

>> No.8250701

>>8250695
been on the streets that long huh?

>> No.8250703

>>8250695
In porn industry or you lead army off angry feminists?

>> No.8250714

>>8250695
>>8250663
>>8250639
>>8250633
>>8250622
>>8250610

you're good at this 10/10 upvoted +karma liked subscribed

>> No.8250717

>>8250714
just a slow friday night my friend

>> No.8251177

>>8250621
It's about employment and pay not scientific advancement. If you really didn't bait and consider (semi)theoretical majors god and high tier you deserve what is coming.

>> No.8251886

>>8248210
Yeah, but you honestly don't need a degree to work at the USGS as a geotech (although it helps a lot).

>> No.8251966

>>8250660

If women seriously make 40 cents to the dollar a man makes,
women seriously suck at negotiating their wage. And is that our problem?

>> No.8251978

>>8251966
I was shitposting.

Also, who the fuck fucked up the captcha? It asks for billboards but there aren't any billboards. Goddamnit.

>> No.8251979

I thought the engineering bubble was supposed to pop? It's been shilled for years.

>> No.8251988

>>8251979
>we'll stop needing more technology any day now
stop posting

>> No.8252013

>>8251978

I knew you personally were, you are not that stupid. But there are people that actually are.

I got the same non visible billboard quiz, quite lol

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>>8247696
Jesus christ did a Bio-major punch your mother or something?

>> No.8252160

CC fag here, am looking to transfer for a Mining degree. What are best schools for that major, also what other names does it go by? Not a lot of info relating to that major specifically desu.

>> No.8252197

>>8252160
Try the University of Missouri Rolla

>> No.8252201

>>8252160
W-why not the
the
hahhah...
the
the

COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.8252206

Do chemical engineers really make butt load of $$ or is it just a meme?

>> No.8252207

>>8252201
sadface

>> No.8252220

Whats the point doing a minor?

>> No.8252232

Quads?

>> No.8252251

>>8251177
>It's about employment and pay not scientific advancement.
no, the board is called "science and math", not "money", genius
what's coming for me, you fucking punk? a comfy, fulfilling life that's what. enjoy chronic boredom

>> No.8252254

>>8247696
>Petroleum Engineering
How is this still up there? Its not 2014 any more lad the oil industry is in a death spiral since opec refused to cut production over a year ago. It was a meme major any way.

>> No.8252473

>>8247977
yeah you're also wrong, clinical psychology uses metrics and quantitative research all the time

>> No.8252498

>>8247696
how does /sci/ feel about mechatronics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechatronics

>> No.8252544

starting a biomedical science course b.a. in UK next semester
how fucked am I?

>> No.8252633

>>8252544

depends if you want to be a doctor or just be paid horribly for labwork the rest of your life

>> No.8252673

>>8247696
Can someone explain what you learn in CS classes? Been thinking of starting a degree in that field, but I heard 8/10 stop after the first year..

>> No.8252693

>literally every list puts mathematics on top

Feels good I fell for the >300k starting meme years ago :^) thanks /sci/

>> No.8252844

>>8252498
>multidisciplinary
Probably a meme.

>> No.8252990

>>8252844
>Being a multidisciplinary is a meme.
I got news for you kid. Everything today is multidisciplinary. So if you got skills and you can actually learn on your own (you don't need everything spoon fed to you by your shitty university) then it can be a good way to move between various related fields more easily.

You could say CE is shit too. The next thing you gonna say is that the only thing people know are the things they learned at their university and it is strictly withing the confines of their chosen degree.

Regarding mechatronics; your car, your washing machine, the airplane you fly from a systems engineering perspective are mechatronics systems. Mechatronics at certain places is especially associated with robots (mostly industrial) though.

>> No.8253012

>>8252990
>defending a meme

>> No.8253035

>>8252673
This depends on where you study, there are some places where it is surprisingly easy, there are also some places where you have to or can take Analysis 1 - 3 and also have courses in Theoretical Computer Science. Programming itself is never really hard tho.

>> No.8253051

Where is civil engineering? No one wants better infrastructures?

>> No.8253055

>>8252673
I'm doing a degree right now;what i learned yet:
Basics of Analysis
Basics of Linear Algebra and number theory
Discrete Math
Mathematical Logic
Machine Learning
Databases
OOP
Intro to Algorithms and Data structures
Theoretical CS
Compilers and Mathematical Linguistics

>> No.8253057

>>8250501
>every graduate from my lab has gotten a job

oh, you must be from organic. my mistake.

>> No.8253063

>>8253055
>Basics of Analysis
Do you mean calculus?

>> No.8253064
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8253064

>>8250655
i wish i lived in chicago

fuck. i miss home.

>> No.8253070

>>8253055
>number theory
do you mean intro to discrete math / solving mod equations?

>Mathematical Logic
do you mean induction and truth tables?

>> No.8253085

>>8253063
same thing...

>> No.8253090

>>8253085
no it's not
it's silly how you tried to give all your engineering "math" classes pompous names so they sound great

>basics of analysis
>number theory
>mathematical logic
yeah right

>> No.8253097

>>8253090
kek, what's your point? Are you mad that you aren't making as much money as us?

>> No.8253130

>>8253085
The thing is that if you are in pure mathematics taking calculus then you can maybe, maybe get to call it basics of analysis, depending on how many proofs you had to write per test.

If you are in CS I really doubt you were taught Calculus from an analysis point of view.

Were you?

>> No.8253139

>>8253097
I said what the point is. it's silly and makes you look retarded. so I'm calling you silly and retarded.

>> No.8253152

>>8253139

He did not make up those names you cocksucking imbecile.

>> No.8253155

>>8253130
>>8253085

By the way, I am saying this because most of my friends are CS people and. for example, they were taught how to compute limits but were not taught the formal definition of a limit nor how to use it to prove that a limit is actually what it is.

There is a big difference between calculus for mathematics and calculus for other people.

>> No.8253157

>>8253152
>I didn't make up those names!
show me the syllabus or course listings so I can laugh

>> No.8253178

>>8253157

>I didn't make up those names!
>I

Goes to show just how right I was for calling you an imbecile.
You can not even get the pronoun right.

>> No.8253185

>>8253178
>I
yes, you. you're not fooling anyone, samefag codemonkey. show syllabus and course listings or at least give me institution name and I'll look them up and make the funniest thread on /sci/ this year

>> No.8253188

>>8253185

How obstinate and delusional can you get?

>> No.8253190

>>8253185
B-but engineeringfag courses are really called like that, anon-sensei.

>> No.8253197

>>8253185
>funniest thread on /sci/ this year
>this year

>/sci/ really is a slow board

>> No.8253206

>>8253190
where, tell me please I'm screaming here
>>8253188
show me then

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8253227

>>8253206
They're really scrambling to find it, anon

>> No.8253235

>>8253206
>where, tell me please I'm screaming here
In a far-off country called Poland, for one: http://ects.pg.edu.pl/przedmiot?subjectId=238560&courseId=9046

>> No.8253242

>>8253235
>calling calculus mathematical analysis
fucking degenerates

>> No.8253293

actual list

>god tier
theology
>okay tier
theological philosophy
>trying to fit a camel into the eye of a needle tier
literally everything else

>> No.8253300
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8253300

I was about to make a thread but maybe this one can do

I'm a math bachelor, I'll soon have finished my masters as well and I literally have no idea what to do with my degree

I don't love math, as many times happens I just realized this late and sticked with it, but I don't hate it either, so if it's a job that requires immense effort on my end, it ought to get me REALLY fucking rich

Teaching is something I feel comfortable falling back to, but I really wouldn't want to be a hs teacher without even having tried getting a good job and making some CASH (since apparently it's a possibility with my degree)

My latest interests have been in probability, I've done a course in Finance but that's not something I feel would suit me really well since from what I've seen that's a world of sharks and I already am anxious enough

Suggestions?
Good countries to move in? (EU)

>> No.8253308

>>8253300
you sound like your confidence is completely destroyed
it's ok not to like pure math. but don't give up or you're going to fuck up. go into applied math, finance, modelling, economics, statistics, etc etc. talk to your professors. ask for tips. a math bachelors sets you up for a good career in applied field

>> No.8253328

>>8253308
I'm not gonna give up anything, I'm just kinda lost
Up to now I just had to study whatever I was given to study and that was it

Thanks for the kind words though

>> No.8253556

>>8247772
Do a bachelors in engineering and afterwards you can do your masters / phd in physics. Then you're still considered an engineer so win/win

>> No.8254260

http://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/learning/programme-course-paper/programme.cfm?major_code=2869&prog_id=93353
Rate

>> No.8254717

>>8253556
>how to wash out of grad school

>> No.8254733

>>8253556
>do engineering
>then physics
What? There are specific courses in physics you need to take to start in grad level physics... You can do physics and then a masters/PhD in engineering, but not vice versa... If you went engineering but went physics, you're missing out on a LOT of information you need.

>> No.8254863

>Biochem
>Shit tier

What? Seriously? Fuck do I have to choose a new major now?

>> No.8254865

>>8250266
We only need a few of you, and it isn't that hard to educate more of you. Supply and demand man

>> No.8254894

Are autists really this gullible?

You know what's actually more likely to land you a good job than worrying about what super specific subset of electrical engineering your degree focus is? A well written resume and a solid internship.

>> No.8254912

>>8247696
switch computer science with software engineering.

>> No.8254953

Finance and Biochemistry double degree
Did I fuck up?

>> No.8254955

>>8254894
Why not both? My Finance major has two internships

>> No.8255328

>>8254733
>You can do physics and then a masters/PhD in engineering, but not vice versa...
I think I understand now why European engineers are wanted everywhere and kept in high regard or you're just an undergrad who thinks his degree is the shit because muh pyhsics.

Actually, in my country in Europe it's the other way around. An engineer is expected to know some general physics and know the physics related to his field very well (otherwise what would be the point of being an engineer?).

According to the law if you go to a different msc you need to complete bsc level complementary courses parallel to doing your msc to match the input requirements. You can only start your msc if these required complementary courses don't exceed a credit limit, in other words you can only start your msc if you have enough prerequisite knowledge.

For a physics msc the secondary (you need complementary stuff) input degrees are: EE, ME, Mechatronics and a few others.

For engineering, physics is not among the secondary input degrees. You can target an engineering msc (most likely CE,EE or CS) with a physics degree, but it will be a lot harder and you actively need to focus on this goal and probably even choose your university accordingly.

A physicist knows almost nothing about the applied challenges of design, design methods, etc. On the other hand an engineer needs physics to even understand the laws of his fields, for a design engineer it's almost unthinkable not to know physics (radio, radar, electric motors/machines,EMI,EMC).

It's certainly not easy though to go the eng.->physics route, but if you got a knack for both then it's certainly doable.
I even saw a guy who did his bsc/msc in EE and his phd at the department of applied physics.

I think I understand now why European engineers are wanted everywhere and kept in high regard or you're just an undergrad who thinks his degree is the shit.

>> No.8255446

>>8247855
Is the difference between NASA and Lockheed

>> No.8255929
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8255929

Aeronautical engineering mustard race

Honest question, is there really a difference between Aeronautical and Aerospace curriculum wise?

>> No.8256105

what about making video games

>> No.8256115

>>8256105
Software Engy and CS are up there. However, videogames are regarded as the worst possible industry to enter as a software engineer.

If you were to ask me I would say that if you are a software engineer working with a, say, aerospace company doing simulations and tools for the engineers, you would be God Tier.

If you were a software engineer trapped in the endless crunch of the videogame industry, doing shitty CoD copycats for little kids or trivial (in terms of design and technology) mobile games then I'd say you are suicide tier.

Not any kind of suicide tier though. A 'You should commit suicide' tier.

>> No.8256117

>>8256115
Hearty chuckle

thanks

>> No.8256154

>>8250621
Theoretical computer science

What does that even mean?

>> No.8256215

>>8256154
As opposed to """""computer science""""" which is basically just a code monkey degree.

>> No.8256328

>>8255929
Doubt it

My university used to have an aeronautical engineering program, and changed the name to aerospace back in the 60s. It's all the same.

>> No.8256351

What percent of math and physics majors get to do actual math or physics research? When I was younger I always wanted to be a physicist and just research cutting edge shit and make discoveries, but it seems like that's impossible unless you're terence tao or something

>> No.8256353

>be math major
>take some engineering classes.
>watch as professors in engineering are incompetent with mathematics.

It's like watching the special Olympics.

>> No.8256357

>>8247696
>>Packaging science
I kiked

>> No.8256660

>>8248005
>I always assumed you guys had a massive hard on for things like 'scientific rigor' or the amount of math involved.

>Implying they weren't rated based on memes

Irregardless, there are millions of these charts floating around here. One of them is based on such considerations.

>> No.8256674

>Chemical Engineering

Why is in such high demand? Big Pharma getting even bigger?

>> No.8256715

>>8248118
I'm currently going from temp job to temp job trying to get permanent status. It sucks AND is kinda fun at the same time.

>> No.8257228

>>8247772
>going into a field that isn't what you enjoy/want to do because muh employment
Quick start guide to an unfulfilled life

>> No.8257371

>>8256357
I thought that's a meme until I saw a fucking conference of these guys.

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8257504

Where would you put bio-informatics, op? Not like im studying it or anything

>> No.8258151

Bump

>> No.8258747

Finance with engineering is god tier

Already lined up an 80k graduate job straight out of uni

>> No.8259112

Is Finance + Chem good?