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Post you favourite /sci/ books, help out your fellow anons finding the best books for their field

>> No.8219976

>>8219953
Why is it in sale in those shitty countries only?

>> No.8220154
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>>8219953
inb4 >cs

>> No.8220372

what is /sci/'s favourite mech eng book? pls no meming

>> No.8220422

>>8219976
Book publishers price their books differently in different areas to maximize profits.

In North America they can raise prices because students (or their parents) are more or less willing to pay a lot for their studies. Elsewhere books need to have reasonable prices, otherwise no sales.

That is also the reason why publishers also forbid importing these cheaper international books into USA/Canada, they don't want others to make profit.

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>>8220422
*they don't want to lose profits

Fixed

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>>8219953
this is one of the comfiest books I have ever read

>> No.8220431

>>8220154
>Practical foundations for an already practical thing.

Yeah. I also feel like giving a theoretical foundation for set theory. That will be worthwhile.

Oh wait.

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>> No.8220684

>>8220372
there are several mech eng people on /sci/, pls help

>> No.8220691

>>8220154
>less than 00.5% of cs majors will even read that

>> No.8220694

>>8220372

Mechanics by Hartog

also
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Mechanical_and_Aerospace_Engineering

>> No.8220781

>>8219953
What's the difference between that book and a book like the one by Taylor?

>> No.8220784

>>8220694
>Mechanics by Hartog
Is this actually good, or is it just a meme?

>> No.8220882
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8220882

>>8219953

Clayden <3

>> No.8220890

>>8220781
K&K is a honors freshman physics 1 book for kids who did AP physics or honors physics and calculus in high school.
Taylor is a sophomore mechanics book.

>> No.8220897

>>8220784
Bought it. It's a meme. Something you read after you've already taken the classes.

Hibbeler for engineering mechanics is far more reader-friendly.

>> No.8220905

>>8220784
It's a good supplement

>> No.8221162

>>8220372
fundamentals of engineering thermodynamics, moran and shapiro

>> No.8221164

>>8220882
Impossible, that book is literally quantity over quality. I honestly prefer Solomon's.

>> No.8221168

>>8220372
Dowling - Mechanical Behavior of Materials
Best book on mechanical failure.
Nice old school, no wasted graphics, style
A must read (or at least reference) for any mechanical engineer

>> No.8221174

>>8220477
>filename
I don't get it

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>>8219953
if you are a mechanical engineer and haven't read all three of these, you are a turbo pleb.

>> No.8221196

>>8221192
Or you already left undergrad

>> No.8221197

>>8220897
>Hibbeler for engineering mechanics is far more retard-friendly.

ftfy

>> No.8221198

>>8221196
you should have read them in undergrad.

>> No.8221199
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8221199

Does anyone have the solutions manual for "Discrete Math and it's Applications" 7th edition?

>> No.8221201

>>8221198
Why? I learned it anyway. I'd rather move on to Arnold and Marsden

>> No.8221244

>>8221192
I'm not an engineer though. I'm a professional fapper.

>> No.8221245

>>8221199
bookzz.org. Just search for the solution manual.

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should be here soon

>> No.8221286

>>8220422
>>8219976
they're called "international editions" usually and they're pretty easy to find online
the quality of paper used is much lower than US editions but the books are much cheaper.

If you buy them from a college bookstore there will be a very high markup

>> No.8221500

Any one know a god-tier book for signal processing?

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>> No.8221971

>>8221500
Stanford's Fourier series lectures+course reader is a very good intro to signal processing.
the lecturer has a PDF of textbook recommendations but i haven't really gone through all of them.

>> No.8221994

>>8221245
Thanks!
It looks like they used to have it but where hit with a DMCA .

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>>8219953
Good introductory text.

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>> No.8222277

>>8220431
The title is just Robert Harper being pretentious as usual. How "practical" the book actually is is debatable, but I think it's valuable to anyone who'd like to look at programming languages as something more than just bags of buzzwordy features:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/pfpl/2nded.pdf

>> No.8222739

i'll be studying Calculus and Linear Algebra the next year, what you recommend?

considering i'm a rookie mathemtcian

>> No.8222860

>>8221199
That's literally an 8th grade level book. WTF do you need a solution manual for?

>> No.8223146

>>8221197
>I'm a reddit tier shitposter
wow

>> No.8223156

>>8223146
Hibbeler is a Civil Engineer who wrote his books to resemble stereo instructions. /sci/ accuses engineers of being plug-n-chug monkeys, and Hibbeler is making that meme a reality.

>> No.8223160

What's a good intro intermediate text for electrical engineering, and or semi conductor physics for hot blooded people like me

>> No.8223261

>>8221971
I've been watching those lectures for weeks. I have a lot of notes on Fourier series and transforms. I wanted something like a text book or something to really buff up my knowledge. Besides how do I get the lecture notes? Is there a link or something?

>> No.8223273

>>8222042

Is it not just fluid mechanics with different viscosity ?

>> No.8223277

>>8223273
its a fluid mechanics/gas dynamics mash up.

>> No.8223351

>>8221192
2nd year undergrad here. Which would you recommend I read first?

>> No.8223364

>>8223351
The usual sequence is
Mechanics (static rigid bodies, dynamic rigid bodies)
Strength of Mats (statics of flexible bodies)
Vibrations (dynamics of flexible bodies)

>> No.8223366

OP from >>8223083 here, any good Mathematical Modelling books, technical or not, would help me out with picking a book for vacation

>> No.8223402

>>8223366
Got a computer?
I liked Gilat - Numerical Methods for Engineers and Scientists
Its got a lot of MATLAB code, so if you have MATLAB or Octave it might be worth picking up.
Pretty much all the basic numerical methods in solving sets of linear equations, numerical integration, odes.
Not sure if there was a PDEs section.

It does assume some basic coding experience

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>>8221164

Quantity over quality? How come? It's got good examples, excellently explained. Sure it's got pretty much everything you'll ever need in OChem, but all of that everything is excellently explained...

>> No.8223856

>>8222860
>That's literally an 8th grade level book
No, it isn't.

>> No.8223944

>>8223261
here's the link for the notes: https://see.stanford.edu/materials/lsoftaee261/book-fall-07.pdf

here's the main page for the course: https://see.stanford.edu/Course/EE261
you can see the homework assignments... pretty much everything used for the course. on the main page you can download all the materials(including the reader)

here's the list of textbooks that are recommended for reference :
https://see.stanford.edu/materials/lsoftaee261/References.pdf

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>> No.8224077

>>8221252
someone approve of my purchase so i can stop feeling regret

thanks

>> No.8224092

>>8224077
approved

>> No.8224094

>>8224077
Yeah, I used the first one, it's nice

I don't know about the other

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8224100

bumble jumble

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Anyone had exp with this one?

>> No.8224108

>>8223410
Clayden is great desu

that guy is a monkey

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>> No.8224117

>>8220422
>Forbid

Supreme court ruled they're not illegal to buy/sell/use in the US.

>> No.8224119

Wanting to study for Exam 1 P and I got "A First Course in Probability 8th Ed," but I'm lacking the trig/calc. Anyone recommend a good introductory text?

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>> No.8224861

>>8221174
read the name of the book

>> No.8226370

>>8221164
pretty much everyone prefers clayden. ive never even read clayden and i know its the tippy top of the organic books

>> No.8227273

>>8223856

>Discreet maths

It really is.

>> No.8228379

>>8222739
Bump for this, what would be the absolute best book for introduction to calculus?

>> No.8228383

>>8228379
Spivak
>>8222739
Spivak and Axler

>> No.8228388

>>8227273
>Discreet

You could use an 8th grade spelling book, it seems

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8228391

>>8228383
Thank you

Going to start calc 1 in a few months, need a head-start

>> No.8228393

>>8228383
Don't listen to this guy, get Royden/Fitzpatrick and Lang for calculus and linear algebra, respectively.

>> No.8228395

>>8228393
He says he's a beginner mathematician not engineer.
Spivak is a better intro book if you actually are willing to do some work and want to understand the math.

>> No.8229578

>>8219953
Any books that dive deep into fairly basic calculus/analysis? A lot of limits, rolle , bolzano theorems etc.
Trying to step in front of other students (have already done in chemistry, biology as high school subjects are super simplified versions of textbooks)
but all books on the topic are non intuitive, oversimplify everything and have awful, exercises going from super simple to plain "notice that detail"
I have apostol's, Courant 's and Spivak ' s calculus, are they going to be of any use?
Greek btw

>> No.8229580

>>8220429

what does it cover? I want to read a proper book about ANN

>> No.8229594

Hey guys what is the best book for basic math?

>> No.8229622

>>8229578
Rudin is the pure math advanced freshman text.
I prefer Pugh though.

>> No.8229654

>>8224531
>The Geometry of Memes

>> No.8229671

>>8229654
That book is actually the best source for seeing that Schemes are not just abstract nonsense.

>> No.8229703

Any suggestions for biology?
I've read The Selfish Gene by Dawkins, but would like to read other literature.

>> No.8229734

>>8229703
Anything by Dawkins, Campbell's biology and Albert's molecular biology of the cell are great, if you want to get serious with it

>> No.8229741

>>8229654
Please fuck off from this board.

>> No.8229804

>>8229734
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll have to check it all out.

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My summer read. Would recommend.

>> No.8231130

>>8229813
What about Relativity, Gravitation and Cosmology: A Basic Introduction by Ta-Pei Cheng?

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>>8229580
it does not go into too much detail, it is an introductory book after all that covers a lot of topics

but as a starting point it works
and continuing with the material suggested in further reading afterwards for more specific material

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8232519

I wanted to read pic related, but libgen doesn't have it, my university doesn't seem to have it either, I don't have 180$ to spare, and the only place I've found a download link wants my credit card details, for reasons totally not related to robbing me, I presume.

>> No.8232526

>>8220477
kek

>> No.8232531

>>8222264
oh my god, I just heard about this one two days ago!

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>>8220482
for what stream? That book is long winded af.

My personal favorite for conciseness and neatness, did a research project on this in undergrad

>> No.8232592

>>8222264
I think Jaynes theory is right, but he is using a very particular definition of consciousness. I think I better word for what Jaynes is explaining would be "thought", which I interpret to be obviously related to, but not wholly synonymous with the word consciousness. The more general phenomenon of why we have subjective experience whatsoever is not really touched upon by the book.

>> No.8232660

what are some good chemistry/chemE books? I've read the sticky list, just seeing if anyone has any preferences. I'm a mechanical engineer, but it seems like all the work that's remotely close to what I want to do is either related to combustion or batteries, any my chemistry needs to be brushed up.

>> No.8232853

>>8232660
self bump. also, i'm a retard who learns better with pictures and examples, so recent textbooks are better than original source materials. i've got older books that are just walls of text and i find them really hard to get through.

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this is very comfy. some understanding of EM and particle physics is recommended but overall and easy read

>> No.8232945

>>8232550
If you're going to study that stuff the yellow book by Bluman and kumei is far superior. I did my undergrad research on it as well.

>> No.8232961

>>8224102
It's good as a supplement.

>> No.8234624

ttt

>> No.8236538

bump

>> No.8236655

>>8229654
>Implying Meme theory isn't going to be the new IUT

>> No.8238531

bump

>> No.8238776
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This is a pretty comfy book desu lads

>> No.8239130

>>8224108
pls stop shilling YOU BABOON

>> No.8239289

>>8231130
I find that textbook verbose and lacking in explanation at times. It's not a bad book but many times I found myself not understanding certain sections and having to resort to another textbook. Also, the order of things are weird, with the Cheng jumping around a lot. I'm not gonna discourage you from reading it but I recommend a supplementary text as well

>> No.8239297

>>8236655
what

>> No.8239304 [DELETED] 

>>8239130


I WROTE THE FUCKING PROOF YOU STUPID RETARDED BABOON ASS MONKEY RETARDED HYPOCRITICAL LYING FUCK
YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARDED MONKEY FLAILING AROUND WHO CLEARLY DOESN'T KNOW SHIT
YOU BETTER NOT FUCKING THINK OF MAKING AN ACADEMIC CAREER BECAUSE I'M GOING TO FUCKING TRACK YOU DOWN AND MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL YOU FUCKING INBRED BABOON
YOU RETARDED BABOON, THIS IS AN ANONYMOUS BOARD WE DON'T KNOW AND DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT WHO YOU ARE
FUCK OFF

>> No.8239318

>>8238776
Differentiable manifolds or smooth manifolds first?

>> No.8239329

>>8239318
It's pretty much the same shit. Math isn't some linear progression, anyways.

>> No.8239350

>>8239318
Every C^k manifold can be given a C^∞ structure, so it really doesn't matter.

>> No.8239386

>>8223856
Read the preface. It's only prerequisite is 7th grade Algebra I.

The book is a total joke. It's incomprehensible how so many CS majors manage to struggle with it.

>> No.8239737

>>8229594
Lang's Basic Mathematics
Simmons' Precalculus in a Nutshell

>> No.8239750 [DELETED] 

>>8229703
>Dawkins

Fuck off back to >>>/reddit/

>> No.8239774

>>8228391
Take your pedophile cartoons back to >>>/a/.

>> No.8239800

>>8239774
>Take your pedophile cartoons back to >>>/a/.

Fuck off autists. You're not trolling anyone with your spam.

>> No.8239806

>>8227273
I wouldn't disagree that introductory discrete math is unchallenging compared to the more foundational mathematical courses but it still entails a certain amount of abstract concepts that people do not pick up easily.

>> No.8239809

>>8224100
I've been reading his Analysis on Manifolds book and I love it. From my experience, he's pretty good at aiming his material at undergrads.

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Any good math books from the past year or so? Just grabbed a pdf of this one

rip nash

>> No.8240210

Would be better to take physics, and self-teach engineering, or to take engineering, and self-teach physics?

Completely disregarding jobs.

>> No.8240214

>>8221286
Many IEs are even more expensive than ordering US online and just have something SI units instead of imperial.

>> No.8240352

>>8232660
Don't use the old sticky, use
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki

These are all very good. Keep in mind though chemistry and ChemE are two very different subjects.

>> No.8240356

>>8232660
Also you're looking for the mass and energy balances cheme section for combustion analysis and materials science or general chemistry for batteries

>> No.8240374

>>8239386
Abstract algera has the same prereqs, prereqs say nothing of the difficulty of a subject.

>> No.8240394

>>8240210
Difficult to say, strongly depends on the sudisciplines you want to learn and to what level. I'm a ChemE postgrad self learning mathematical physics and it's really difficult without access to professors/TAs, on the other hand some senior level ChemE courses are outright impossible to self-study (no textbook to adequately cover the material, just lecture notes and research papers); especially true if you want to learn modern reactor design and particle (meso scale particulate) technology.

On the other hand something like statistical mechanics (pathria level) and classical (Taylor) was extremely easy for me to learn without outside help though obviously I had some background on those.

I think the best approach in your case is to do physics for undergrad and hope your university isn't as retarded as mine in allowing you to take courses from other departments with a retarded 4 year spanning prereq chain.

>> No.8240461

anyone know of any good old school no online bullshit books on intro to aerospace engineering and propulsion? i totally would use my dads from back in the day but theyre all in german and my german isnt that good.

>> No.8240471

>>8240210
Definitely major in Engineering and self-teach undergrad physics. Maybe sign up for the junior/senior year experimental physics lab as an elective if you don't want to miss the hands on stuff.

>> No.8240540

>>8240461
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Mechanical_and_Aerospace_Engineering#Special_Topics

>> No.8240573

>>8240210
Self-teaching engineering is impossible.
Self-teaching physics is very possible at undergrad level.

Take Engineering, self-teach physics

>> No.8240809

>>8224102
>>8232961
I am about to buy this, why should I get another book instead of this one? What do you mean good as a supplement? What topics doesn't Visual Complex Analysis cover?

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8240822

I have not read any other books in the field of dynamics to compare Strogatz's book with but and I'm still reading it, but so far it's a terrific read :)

>> No.8240913

>>8240210
You're asking a board who hates science and just wants to make money in the easiest way possible whether you should study science or engineering. What do you expect them to say?

>> No.8240918

>>8240822
Do you have a pdf of the second edition?

>> No.8241000

>>8240913
He should take physics and leave more engineeringbucks to us, obviously.

>> No.8241019

The art of building reasonable organic reaction mechanisms is a pretty solid read for that topic.

McQuarrie's physical chemistry is good for early pedagogy.

>> No.8241061

>>8240822
Ordered it last week should arrive in the next few days.

Can't wait.

>> No.8241065

>>8240918
No sorry, I have it as a pocket

>> No.8241069

>>8240913
So far we've had a range of responses so maybe you should stop being a fucking asshole?

Also what you're saying is absolute bullshit if we only cared about money we wouldn't be posting on a board about our passions in our freetime, you're just trying to piss on engineering majors because of your own insecurities probably resulting from the fact that you didn't even try to apply outside the general college.

>> No.8241071

>>8240918
Stop being poor and just buy it, textbooks aren't that expensive.

>> No.8241367

>>8241069
>Also what you're saying is absolute bullshit if we only cared about money we wouldn't be posting on a board about our passions in our freetime, you're just trying to piss on engineering majors because of your own insecurities
No, I've just grown annoyed with all the job/money shitposting and calling everything that isn't engineering autistic and pointless. Many threads on actual science/math are derailed by people insulting it.

>probably resulting from the fact that you didn't even try to apply outside the general college.
I don't know what this means.

>> No.8241995

>>8240540
Thank you

>> No.8242012

>>8241071
lol Americans...

>> No.8242054

>>8242012
This joke isn't funny anymore. It's like I'm browsing Reddit and everyone is fishing for upvotes.

>> No.8242078

anybody have an intro to materials science textbook?

>> No.8242094

>>8228379
Apostol's Calculus both volumes.
>>8222739
Same thing, plus Axler's linear algebra book. I think putting off determinants until the end was a good idea in his book unless you're trying to be an applied mathematician/Doing any sort of application. After that for fun, try reading Linear Algebra Done Wrong. It is a response to Axler's book.
>>8240918
It is on libgen.

>> No.8242128

>>8240573
How could it be impossible?

If it was, how could it be developed to begin with?

>> No.8242149

>>8242128
>How could it be impossible?
90% of engineering is intuition, with 5% experience and another 5% being your engineering education. its more akin to art, really.

physics and math are actual academic pursuits.

>> No.8242224

>>8242149
If it is almost entirely intuition, then it seems like it should actually be easy to self-teach if you have the mind for it.

>> No.8242290

>>8242149
>90% of engineering is intuition
confirmed for not an engineer

>> No.8242467

>>8242012
If it's a meme I didn't get, but I'm South African and order my shit mostly from Amazon. The exchange rate might suck right now, but even in this weather I can still afford anything I want on my student stipend.

>> No.8242468

>>8242078
Callister

>> No.8242912

>>8242149
>90% of engineering is intuition, with 5% experience and another 5% being your engineering education
Oh wow so it's exactly like every other technical field.

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Not my favorite but I thought it was really good to learn from. Good for autodidacts.

>> No.8243013

Just finished calc 3 going into aero what do I read

>> No.8243160

>>8243013
>>8240540

>> No.8243393

>>8242467
It depends on whether there are any cheap used copies out there, and it can be hard with some obscure books.

t. postsoviet poorfag

>> No.8243657

>>8242128
Labs, projects, group work, and capstones are difficult/expensive to recreate on your own.

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Chemfag here, what do you guize reccomend for quantum mechanics? I'vebeen told thay my prof next year isn't a good explainer

Pic related, it's what i used for thermodynamics last year, it was a bit of a mess, dunno if the quantum chem part is better or worse

>> No.8244549

>>8244263
Eisberg and Resnick - Quantum Physics of Atoms, Molecules, Solids, Nuclei, and Particles
Griffiths - Introduction to Quantum Mechanics

>> No.8244600

>>8244263
Listen to >>8244549
Griffiths for QM all the way. There's even a handful of youtube videos that follow directly from that book, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL65jGfVh1ilueHVVsuCxNXoxrLI3OZAPI

>> No.8244766

>>8244263
>>8244549
>>8244600

Quatnum mechanics and quantum chemistry are too very different fields...

>> No.8245149

>>8244263
For quantum chemistry, Physical Chemistry: A molecular approach

>> No.8245181

>>8244766
For the first half of the course, it will just be standard QM.