/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.8204842]

What are /sci/'s predictions for the future, preferable with an estimated year.
> ~2030, super-bug originating from India spreads across the globe
> ~2045, cure for HIV is found
> ~2050, auto vehicles are fully integrated into infrastructure
> ~2050, drones are employed by all courier services
> ~2055, manual driving on motorways becomes illegal

[Anonymous No.8204936]

>2027 singularity

[Anonymous No.8204960]

>>8204936

I truly hope so.

[Anonymous No.8204966]

>>8204842
>2055 manual driving on motorways becomes illegal

crossing fingers for 2035

[Anonymous No.8204968]

Check out what Peter Turchin says. In short he says that Europe and the States are fucked because of elite overproduction and rising inequality.

Yaneer Bar Yam states things are more different today because of complexity.

[Anonymous No.8204974]

>2070: paradigm shift

[Anonymous No.8204976]

>>8204974
samposting is best posting

[Anonymous No.8204991]

>>8204842
>> ~2045, cure for HIV is found
I dont think its that far away, we can already eradicate it from the blood with anti virals,
the last hurdle we have to cross now is being able to flush the virus from its hiding places, or make it so that they can never get out.

[Anonymous No.8205047]

>>8204968
Yeah, automation is really going to screw up the power dynamic if done in a capitalist manner and wealth isn't redistributed.
>>8204966
I don't think so, the legal framework will take some time to adjust and then there will be a certain amount of resistance by the general public to full automation.

[Anonymous No.8205049]

Instead of spending money in useless shit like curing for HIV, how about try curing cancer and research cell regeneration?

[Anonymous No.8205051]

>>8205049
>curing HIV
>useless shit
I think some may disagree senpai

[Anonymous No.8205052]

>>8204842
>~2050, drones are employed by all courier services
34 years seems a bit long for this,
www.bbc.com/news/technology-36478614

[Anonymous No.8205054]

>>8205052
There's still a lot legal considerations, plus the fact there is no infrastructure for it. Also the technology isn't fool proof. What prediction do you give?

[Anonymous No.8205056]

>>8204974
>>8204976
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.8205081]

>>8205054
its hard to say
but once something is shown to be effective, econimical and safe, customers and companies will adopt it widespread.

i'm not sure if your prediction involves a 100% drone workforce, or if your drones are autonomous or human controled, but id think some courier service would acheive cost savings over human drivers in certain cases within 5 years.

id guess within 10-15 years from now we would see drone delivery it at its peak.

im not if sure the technology would ever fully replace human services, but i was responding to your scenario where for all couriers, drones are employed

legal issues are solved with disclaimers and new laws, no technology is perfect but its getting better then humans all the time.

[Anonymous No.8205090]

>>8205081
Full autonomous drone force in my prediction

[Anonymous No.8205128]

>>8204842
2055 -the sun will still be shining

[Anonymous No.8205151]

>>8204842
>~2055, manual driving on motorways becomes illegal
But how will the cops catch you if they're not driving on them either :^)

[Anonymous No.8205320]

>>8205051

Curing Cancer is literally our only boundary towards achieving immortality, or at the very least massively extended lifetimes (several hundred or thousand years). It's also a project that would require several trillion dollars of funding to isolate all known forms of cancer and find a cure specific to each one.

Expect this by the 2080s, hopefully i'll still be alive.

[Anonymous No.8205343]

>>8205320
>Expect this by the 2080s, hopefully i'll still be alive.
chuckled hard

[Anonymous No.8205351]

>>8205151

How do cops catch criminals, if driving over a red light is illegal?

[Anonymous No.8205365]

We really really really need the politic and laws to transition to a post scarcity economy and civilization.

It's only at the very best 15 years out, that corporations become extremely powerful because they more or less just use robots and ai's. I can almost guarantee that deepmind will be producing the first human level agi by 2028.
At that moment in time the whole government will loose power because it is in a position where it is threatened by not enough funding.

Laws need to be passed before google, facebook, microsoft produces such an agi.
Robots have to pay taxes. Human level agi even more.

Corporations have to fund the government in full.
They have to fund society.

Everything else will be a dystopian world like we never could have dreamed of. With trillionairse more powerful than states and corporations the new superpowers with buying power like the US in 2016.

I don't want to life in a world, where corporations are magnitudes more powerful than the current superpower. CEOs aren't put to power through democratic processes.

That world would be shittier than the shittiest Aristocracy

[Anonymous No.8205383]

>>8205365
>Laws need to be passed before google, facebook, microsoft produces such an agi

On the bright side, Larry Page mentioned recently in an interview that he thinks that we should consider moving to a 4 day work week, which is a step towards preparing for post-scarcity (and he knows this).

So at least the leaders of google are aware that we must make the transition.

[Anonymous No.8205407]

>>8205365
not enough funding? i'm taxed at 30% with everything but sales tax included. Include the sales tax which is 9.75% and that hits nearly 40% of my wealth is taken from me. How much more does the government need from me? And if taxation isn't theft, then at what point does it become theft? 50%? 60%? Government has a monopoly of force, corporations can't force you to do anything. The markets can only work by peaceful cooperation

[Anonymous No.8205408]

>>8205407
How much in taxes are you going to be paying when your job can be done by a robot?

[Anonymous No.8205413]

>>8205408
the same because the market will shift and my labor will be used for something else. i'll instead be maintaining or improving the robots in some capacity

[Anonymous No.8205422]

>>8205365
>Cyberpunk is becoming more and more of a reality by the day

The only hope for AGI is that we stupidly underestimated how hard it is to emulate a human brain, and in reality only an international open co-operation could make 1 AGI run in the whole world.

Think like a CERN but 100 times more expensive and difficult. That's the only thing that's stopping us from a dystopia where people beg to get minimum wage jobs, since t he untouchable business royalty has enough robots and AI servants to live good forever.

[Anonymous No.8205426]

>>8205422
everyone is getting richer with time. poverty now means something different than even 20 years ago. the cyberpunk vision is coming but it'll be a power struggle between the people and government with corporations acting as wildcards either operating with the help of the state (cronycapitalism) or against the state with adoration from the public

[Anonymous No.8205427]

>>8205320
or we can just work on brain cancer and brain related diseases and then work on cloning and being able to transfer a brain to another body.

[Anonymous No.8205437]

2333

half-life 3 is finally released

[Anonymous No.8205448]

>>8205047
>>8205365
I wonder if the Soviet Union would have been better equipped for automation than the west if it had continued along the path it was moving instead of imploding.

[Anonymous No.8205450]

>>8205437
You mean 3333

[Anonymous No.8205459]

2030
>USA
>all residential rooves must have at least one photovoltaic panel of some substantial percentage of the roof.

[Anonymous No.8205462]

>>8205365
>human level AI

What does this mean? I keep seeing that phrase and dont understand if its just an uncontrollable learning AI or if its some sort of scifi channel nonsense where computers become aware and personally motivated.

[Anonymous No.8205465]

>>8204842
but HIV is a cure

[Anonymous No.8205467]

>>8205462
An AI that can perform all (or nearly all) general human-capable tasks at the performance level of the average human. An AI with human level neural plasticity.

[Anonymous No.8205535]

>>8205467
This wont be anytime soon. Our brains are very slow computers and whatever algorithm is needed to accomplish this is extremely complex. It would probably be 2030 that we could create learning AIs just to aid us in solving that algorithm.

[Anonymous No.8205624]

>>8205448
It would have been, China is an example of a country can implement automation far more smoother than any Western country, since they can control all aspects of that automation process.
>>8205407
30% tax, Jesus Christ where do you live?
>>8205465
this

[Anonymous No.8205673]

>>8205049
>>8205320

Hopefully you die soon, preferably by your own razor sharp edge there kiddo.

[Anonymous No.8205688]

>2020, India becomes superpower

[Anonymous No.8205691]

>>8205688
baiting this hard

[Anonymous No.8205692]

>>8205691
Take your pedophile cartoons to >>>/a/.

[Anonymous No.8205924]

Lab grown clone organs and body parts will be available and supported wholeheartedly by insurance companies dedicated and funding the whole thing by 2030

The sheer amount of money they will hedge on, from people who will literally see it as life extension and a free pass to finally party like it's 1999 with consequences that can just be replaced with new body parts 20 years later that have already been grown and ready to be used, is going to be massive and very lucrative

I imagine steep down payments though, and the option to make it cheaper by allowing your cloned organs be available for emergencies for someone compatible

It's gonna save a lot of lives and improve our longevity

[Anonymous No.8205931]

>big(ger) wars by 2030, largely caused by water/food shortages
>billions of people dead by 2050 due to war and environmental catastrophes

No lab organs. No self-driving bullshit. No HIV cure. No cancer cure. No virtual reality. No immortality. No singularity.

The only real question is when/how many nukes will go off.

[Anonymous No.8205935]

>>8205426
>everyone is getting richer with time
That's highly subjective. Most monkeys live in abject poverty, misery and ignorance. Talking out my ass but I am thinking for every first worlder created with spare time for shitposting on a Mongolian image board there are 3 poverty ridden souls created on the dark side.

[Anonymous No.8205940]

>>8205459
>photo volatic
>not a meme

Superconductors and better grids will probably come first, and Japan will probably go is their space solar farm experiment by then

[Anonymous No.8205942]

>>8205931
There are no water and food shortages on that scale

[Anonymous No.8205955]

>>8205935
You underestimate just how fucking horrible things were before the Industrial Revolution for most of humanity. I would say that the poorest people today are just about the same as the majority of humanity was 500 years ago. Conditions are improving slowly but surely everywhere.

[Anonymous No.8205956]

>>8205942
That's because we're talking about the future.

[Anonymous No.8205958]

>>8204842
>2028
New phone "technology"

You guys have a pretty weird sense of where the world is going.

[Anonymous No.8205961]

>>8205956
There won't be water and food shortages of that scale

We made carbs too cheap and desalination is improving

lmfao @ your negativity, get rekt dweeb

[Anonymous No.8205966]

>>8205427
>transfer a brain to another body

literally pointless unless we can make the brain regenerate damage, which would mean the body would also be able to regenerate, which would make brain transfers pointless

[Anonymous No.8206021]

>>8204842
>2093: First (actual) moon landing: (C'mon guys we have to feed Africa first).
>2104: Islam celebrates its cultural achievements, such as penicillin, the combustion engine, Beethoven, European architecture and ice cream.

>2132: New obedience chip technology is implanted in all people, as the governing AI system requires.

>2148: T-Rex is cloned by Jewish pornographers, is used exclusively for sex shows on blue ray technology.

>2217: The Saharan desert is formed into a fucking huge water park.

>2385: We all agree that humanity is about halfway over.

>8814: Abrahamic religions destroyed, eternal 4th Reich controls all space travel. Life is strangely pretty chill. All non-space travel computers are illegal and we have sex for fun.

9001: Technology scare, as humans start to evolve into strange e-wok looking creatures. Smart phone companies manufacture smaller digital keypads to combat the change. Major geneticists determine that this is a result of furries not being purged from our bloodlines.

1004: The new Tool album comes out. Solid early reviews.

[Anonymous No.8206023]

>>8206021
>2104: Islam celebrates its cultural achievements, such as penicillin, the combustion engine, Beethoven, European architecture and ice cream.
I thought this was the future senpai

[Anonymous No.8206027]

>>8205958
wtf are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.8206034]

desu i just hope we get anime sex robots before i die

[Anonymous No.8206036]

>>8206023

Its not a perfect post anon, and you have to understand the future of Eurabia and how Islam (refugees welcome) is culturally enriching the west. You need to get on the right side of history, basically, rly, srs.

If you were a childlike innovator, if you looked at the date, you would see this stuff coming. These are my predictions and I'm sticking to them.

Ha, here's another:

2028: Cis white sexuality declared rape. Doctors form new sex robots from recycled better sex robots from Japan to combat mass loneliness and depression among cis whites while keeping it green.

And another.

2038: Recycled sex robots hacked, declare allegiance to the caliphate of Germany. Acquire all non-automated diesel engine trucks and mow down large crowds of pedestrians for Allah. Queen mother empress Clinton declares event unrelated to Islam.

[Anonymous No.8206037]

>>8206023
He's saying... Why do I even bother

[Anonymous No.8206051]

Remember this, screenshot this post, so you can reap the smug rewards and say you heard about it before it happened.

Within 3 years everyone will be confused as hell because everything will have gotten sane all of a sudden. Conflicts will be resolved to the benefit of all parties, people will cooperate, crime will plummet by orders of magnitude.

It will be so sudden and powerful that many people will think it is the hand of God. The actual reason will be a sort of "cultural singularity," accelerated cultural change facilitated by the internet that allows for the solving of fundamental human problems on a massive scale.

Laugh and say this is bullshit, take a screenshot anyways for lols. Three years, by Summer 2019 at the latest, this will occur, most likely much sooner.

[Anonymous No.8206075]

>>8204842

>2021 - Global arms race in drone fighters, bombers, submarines
>2022 - Widespread adoption and boom in Augmented Reality, similar to the introduction of the iPhone in 2007
>2023 - Parkinson's Disease pronounced "cured"
>2025 - Boom in cryogenic preservation of the deceased
>2025~2030 - Widespread usage of automated vehicles; cabs replace vehicle ownership for most
>2025~2030 - Massive global upheaval as mankind adjusts to automation, localized product fabrication and job elimination on all fronts; GMI adopted in most First World nations
>2027 - Wealthier couples routinely "tailor" their children's genes to eliminate defects and enhance their physical attributes
>2028 - VR indistinguishable from reality on an A/V level
>2028 - Islamic extremists release tailored virus; global outbreak kills tens of millions, but is neutralized with a collaborative G20 effort
>2029 - First AI passes Turing Test
>2030~2035 - Most forms of cancer cured. Diabetes cured. Widespread usage of cloned organ replacements.
>2035~2040 - Most forms of congenital diseases reversible. Life expectancy reaches "terminal velocity": any First World citizen alive in this period can expect to live indefinitely, barring accident.
>2035~2040 - Advent of direct neural/AI interfacing
>2040~2050 - AI's surpass human intelligence; mind uploading becomes possible
>2050 - Singularity event
>2054 - Buffalo Bills win Super Bowl

[Anonymous No.8206078]

>>8206034
to a certain extent this, I hope we get to fuck VR girls during my life time, I want to try my PUA shit on fake women that I can erase if things go wrong and then I can try again until I manage to get them to take off their clothes

[Anonymous No.8206081]

>>8206051
>The actual reason will be a sort of "cultural singularity," accelerated cultural change facilitated by the internet that allows for the solving of fundamental human problems on a massive scale.

Thank you, Queen Hillary.

[Anonymous No.8206099]

>>8206051
this post

[Anonymous No.8206100]

>>8205935
>>8205955

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

92 percent of poor households have a microwave.

Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.

Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.

Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.

More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.

43 percent have Internet access.

One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.

One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

[Anonymous No.8206102]

>>8206100
the market creates wealth, government intervention only slows or destroys wealth. the state can't produce wealth only the market can.

[Anonymous No.8206103]

>>8206100
For decades, the living conditions of the poor have steadily improved. Consumer items that were luxuries or significant purchases for the middle class a few decades ago have become commonplace in poor households, partially because of the normal downward price trend that follows introduction of a new product.

Liberals use the declining relative prices of many amenities to argue that it is no big deal that poor households have air conditioning, computers, cable TV, and wide-screen TV. They contend, polemically, that even though most poor families may have a house full of modern conveniences, the average poor family still suffers from substantial deprivation in basic needs, such as food and housing. In reality, this is just not true.

[Anonymous No.8206108]

>>8205935
It's hardly subjective that everyone's livelihoods are getting better as we progress technologically; mainly due to Moore's Law and mass production which this anon has shown.
>>8206100

[Anonymous No.8206109]

>>8206102
Government intervention aids in the redistribution of wealth, which is why capitalism is such a detrimental system of automation. We require a socialist government to redistribute the wealth to ensure we don't get a massive divide within the population.

[Anonymous No.8206121]

>Government intervention aids in the redistribution of wealth

yes and as a result, the market is slowed to a relative crawl. just imagine if this didn't take place and that the market was free of government intervention. we'd live completely different lives today.

>capitalism is such a detrimental system of automation

Automation is a great thing, you'll learn this yourself with time. Human labor is more fluid than you must think. Instead of bagging groceries for example, i'm free to focus on customer service or maintain the automation machines or improve upon them in some way, or to easily supervise and diagnose issues. This is a wonderful thing and its sad that most believe as you do, you people with your overlords are holding humanity back. The market works and most people's unfounded ignorance is ruining progression.

>We require a socialist government to redistribute the wealth to ensure we don't get a massive divide within the population.

Socialism doesn't work because you can't possibly know prices. Prices are there to indicate where resources are best to be allocated. No group of people arbitrarily barking orders can know how to efficiently place resources. Only people cooperating freely between each other can do this, government intervention can only harm this process.

[Anonymous No.8206125]

>>8206121
The typical poor American lives in an air-conditioned house or apartment that is in good repair and has cable TV, a car, multiple color TVs, a DVD player, a VCR, and many other appliances. Half of the poor have computers, and one-third have wide-screen plasma TVs.
Some 96 percent of poor parents report their children were never hungry at any time in the prior year.
A poor child is more likely to have cable TV, a computer, a wide-screen plasma TV, an Xbox, or a TiVo in the home than to be hungry.
Poor Americans have more living space in their homes than the average non-poor Swede, Frenchman, or German.

[Anonymous No.8206147]

>>8206121
>Automation is a great thing, you'll learn this yourself with time. Human labor is more fluid than you must think
To be fair, I didn't claim that automation WASN'T a great thing. Automation will be great IF and WHEN it is implemented correctly. However, I do believe that it must be regulated appropriately by government policy, for fear that the gap between the poor and the rich increases to a unprecedented scale which would occur if we left it unchecked (in its current state now). Ultimately, we don't disagree on the technology, but we disagree on how it should be managed economically.

>This is a wonderful thing and its sad that most believe as you do, you people with your overlords are holding humanity back. The market works and most people's unfounded ignorance is ruining progression.
I think this is a bit unfair, human labour is fluid - I agree with that. However, there simply isn't enough jobs that could be created with the advent of full automation of the workforce. Sure, it'll create jobs - but there will be a vast amount of unemployment. This is where the problem of modern day capitalism comes into effect.

[Anonymous No.8206150]

>>8206121
>Socialism doesn't work because you can't possibly know prices. Prices are there to indicate where resources are best to be allocated. No group of people arbitrarily barking orders can know how to efficiently place resources
Which is why it must be a technocratic socialism for it to be effective at the allocation of their respective resources, to be fair I see where you're coming from in regards to the capitalist viewpoint but I just don't see it working in practice as a corporation's profit margins always outweigh the social repercussions. For example, the introduction of private prisons into the United States justice system. They're practically sitting in on legal policy to ensure that their profit margins (which is increased with each prisoner) is high. So, they want strict laws in order to do this. Basically, the corporations have no social responsibility and they will exploit this fact. Which is why you need government intervention. If you could perhaps tell me how a capitalist government would ensure events like this did not occur with new technologies, I may consider my political alignments on the matter. However, currently, they remain resolutely socialist.

[Anonymous No.8206153]

>>8206147
>modern day capitalism

this doesn't exist. people like to point to the markets today to point out flaws in capitalism but there are no forms of capitalism today. The market is completely deformed and twisted. Most industries are subsidised and those that are more untouched than others thrive.

[Anonymous No.8206155]

>>8206081
It has nothing to do with politics whatsoever.

>>8206099
As I said, give as much skepticism as you want. Just screenshot the post and save it. You'll shit bricks when it happens.

[Anonymous No.8206158]

>>8206153
Yeah, you're correct with that. However, I can't see it being feasible otherwise, please tell me how you'd prevent my private prison scenario from occurring in a "free-market." Essentially, if it were a completely free-market, slavery and all forms of malpractice would be open game for employers.

[Anonymous No.8206160]

>>8206150
government intervention is exactly what gives you the prisons in the first place. you wouldn't need prisons in a free market in this scale because the vast majority of crimes are nonviolent. Corporations can't profit unless people voluntarily give money to support it. Governments can't profit unless they steal the wealth and end up sloshing it around very inefficiently

[Anonymous No.8206161]

>>8206155
>cultural singularity
>nothing to do with politics
What you're basically stating is that globalism prevails and everyone loses national identity to form a global culture. How that isn't political is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.8206163]

>>8206158
>>8206160

[Anonymous No.8206165]

>>8206161
>using a phrase like "cultural singularity" outside of tumblr
fuck off

[Anonymous No.8206166]

>>8206160
When government fails they get more staff and a larger budget. When business fails they lose everything.

[Anonymous No.8206167]

>>8206165
I was using it because the anon I was responding to did.

[Anonymous No.8206171]

>>8206160
You still have the issue of the immensely rich (manufacturers, who own the automation) and the relatively poor (consumers)

[Anonymous No.8206179]

>>8206161
That isn't what you stated, that's what you assumed.

The cultural singularity will be a cultural explosion of innovation and efficacy, not a contraction. Trying to speculate on the specifics of it is impossible - they are inherently unpredictable.

Here, I took a screenshot myself for you to save.

[Anonymous No.8206183]

>>8206179
I already saved it. I'll open it up in 2019 and have a mighty kek.

[Anonymous No.8206186]

>>8206171
the market brings everyone up. for example today even people in poverty have a car, just because they don't have a bmw doesn't mean they are suffering to such a degree that you seem to put off. There is no problem with the rich having things that people in poverty can't have. The alternative that you suggest would be to put a gun to peaceful people to steal from them.

[Anonymous No.8206206]

>>8206186
You have a fair point, and have truly made me reconsider my position. Although I do believe that there will be a considerable amount of unemployment with the implementation of automation, in which case the government would need to intervene. If automation led to no unemployment, your scenario would be ideal but I truly don't think mass automation will lead to no unemployment. Rather, the contrary.

[Anonymous No.8206215]

>>8206206
i'm not an original enough thinker to come to these conclusions all by myself. Here is an example of some reading from my perspective:

https://mises.org/library/10-automation

https://mises.org/library/automation-retreating-catastrophe

Murray Rothbard changed the way i view how the world works and what exactly is wrong. This is an essay that had an impact on me:

https://mises.org/library/war-peace-and-state

[Anonymous No.8206221]

>>8206215
Thanks, my views were just moulded from a preexisting socialist bias. I'll take a read of those essays.

[Anonymous No.8206224]

>>8206109
You aren't really wrong, and in all honesty, when automation is in full force, that is the time where I start to take socialism seriously

Or at the very least, mandatory energy grid upgrades. With modular grid designs, at least then corporations can start to compete at a local level to reduce costs and increase distribution for everyone, taking the load off the government. But one or the other has to happen, or it will be ugly

Better if both happen, which isn't unlikely

[Anonymous No.8206225]

>>8206221
>>8206215
>>8206206
>>8206186

?????????????
austrian propaganda on /sci/?

[Anonymous No.8206227]

>>8206225
Explain this meme.

[Anonymous No.8206228]

>>8206225
Praxeology is science :^)

[Anonymous No.8206230]

>>8206224
I do think that automation has the potential to get very "ugly" if it isn't done right, and it very likely won't be.

[Anonymous No.8206232]

>>8206228
p-please go

[Anonymous No.8206235]

>>8206225
My propaganda is freedom

[Anonymous No.8206239]

>>8206121
Socialism doesn't work, period, in America, so I think that anon is more talking about having some socialistic programs and subsidies put in place to help the public stay relevant in the market, as opposed to relying on the state or being left behind in the workforce

And I agree, automation really is the labor wet dream finally realized, with that drastic cut of labor force, there's a new paradigm that definitely needs attention and discourse.

Frankly, in a perfect world, it should be the start of having a technocratic society and having the population have a full focus on the sciences and yes, even the arts.

[Anonymous No.8206244]

>>8206230
Consider that automation is going to be very energy hungry, and automation doesn't solve the issue of distribution, no, not even with the meme AI self driving vehicles

Both will require some infrastructure, and with infrastructure comes not only jobs, but entire communities. The roads and grid will be there, the pipes will be there. Only the grid is currently lacking, which is why I think that is a serious bottleneck for progress.

It can be done right, we'll just have to cross our fingers and see

[Anonymous No.8206248]

>>8206215
>>8206239
>>8206244
I believe the the state should moderate the progress of technology, as it will begin progressing at a rate which will disallow the poor to maintain an appropriate standard of living, especially in the case there is mass unemployment.

[Anonymous No.8206255]

>>8206248
you only slow progress and leave more people relatively poor if you do this. i say relatively poor because every few years poor means something different. today's poor are yesterday's kings so to speak.

>>8206221
Also consider Thomas Woods, on youtube you can find most of his speeches and work. Appealing to peace to convince people sadly doesn't work as you might think it would. Maybe i'll suggest this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBCiMxuX9_g&list=PLCONIwYSymGTT0Lz3gd4YfdlrftQ7UZwN

[Anonymous No.8206267]

I'm always amused when people think air conditioning is a luxury. Come live in the southwest. They don't make sunken huts or basement houses to live in.
Also, since when don't you need a computer to apply for work? What backwoods hick territory even has businesses that allow paper applications anymore.
As for claiming people aren't poor because they have a luxury good or two (tv, Xbox), go fuck yourself. Electronics are way cheaper than food or rent. You're shitting on the least expensive forms of entertainment, which cost less than a trip a state over with a few nights in a hotel.

[Anonymous No.8206273]

>>8206267
electronics are cheaper because government doesn't touch it as much as food or rent (agricultural subsidies, price controls, building codes and restrictions, permits, regulations ,etc.) Imagine if government tried to treat technology as it does food or construction or healthcare

[Anonymous No.8206366]

>>8206248
>the progress
No.

That just opens up all sorts of bureaucracy over how much is too much and what defines technology and when is the appropriate time table. That is not feasible and not a good idea

The reason why people like the free market is that these things happen organically, as opposed to people coming up with the rules, and it changes organically as development grows

[Anonymous No.8206372]

>>8205624
>30% tax, Jesus Christ where do you live?
Anon if you aren't a total poorfag, Americans get taxed about 1/3 of their earnings.

[Anonymous No.8206375]

>>8206075
>>2054 - Buffalo Bills win Super Bowl

Immersion ruined.

[Anonymous No.8206376]

>>8205624
>30% tax, Jesus Christ where do you live?
dude, 30% isn't bad at all when you make decent money. you just have to find a bunch of deductions.

[Anonymous No.8206415]

>>8206273
Oh boy. A world without fire codes. We had your world. It was called the industrial revolution and was so horrid that the masses revolted and created a thing called the middle class in their wake. Maybe you've heard of it.

[Anonymous No.8206419]

>2095
India discovers the toilet

[Anonymous No.8206424]

>>8206419
This is a realistic future senpai, not some Utopian ideal.

[Anonymous No.8206433]

massive technological stagnation where the world will largely look the same for a long time to come with the only differences being that there are self driving cars, that there are less 3rd world shitholes, people live longer, artificial food means we can all be vegan, video game looks a little better and you have great internet everywhere on the planet

basically anything that can get better will get better over time but nothing is really happening because efficiency != breakthrough technology. then one day, somebody will discover and new fire and everything will change in ways we can't even imagine.

[Anonymous No.8206440]

in the year 2070 you're going to have to pay to be outside.

grocery stores? forget it.

2070, kiss the grocery stores goodbye.

[Anonymous No.8206461]

>>8206440
I think grocery stores will be phased out much earlier, 70 seems a bit far.

[Anonymous No.8206469]

>>8204842
I only really care about neuro-degenerative disorders treatments - but mostly effective prevention methods.

I can deal with the fact of getting old - but I don't want nasty tumors in brain or dementia - that's horrible.

[Anonymous No.8206481]

>>8206469
>dementia
but you won't know you're demented senpai

[Anonymous No.8206490]

> 2050
Methematicians lost their jobs completely. The humanity finally realized that the only mathematics worth studying is constructive. Theoretical computer scientists occupied the freed jobs. Coq has become strong AI. Physicists are close to unite their theories with the new mathematics to form the Computable Nature theory.

[Anonymous No.8206491]

>>8205961
They won't be so "cheap" when the oil runs out. Wait and see.

[Anonymous No.8206493]

>>8205961
Also
>desalination is improving
rofl

[Anonymous No.8207145]

I really don't have many predictions. But I some people (like Kurzweil) are simply to hopeful. One comparison I like to make is that the future will be much like the film Elysium, simply without the stupid message, robotic law enforcement and orbital rich people hive.

[Anonymous No.8207556]

>>8205931
> No self-driving bullshit
> No virtual reality

but we're either there or basically there for these two

[Anonymous No.8207757]

pff very optimistic....a nuclear war which erradicates all humans on the planet in 2020

[Anonymous No.8207759]

>>8205320
>isolate all known forms of cancer and find a cure specific to each one

Something like swarms of nanobots integrated into our bodies could be a cure for most or all forms of cancer, along with many other diseases.
Bots could attack and destroy tumors, regardless of cancer type or body area.

[Anonymous No.8207776]

>>8207759
>Something like swarms of nanobots integrated into our bodies

Cancer = shit encoding of functional cell reproduction = copy of a copy issues

We've long since fixed this with digital reproduction. Not a big issue, over the long term.

[Anonymous No.8207806]

>>8207776
You're referring to genetic engineering or gene therapies that could fix copying issues?

That wouldn't address forms of cancer caused by carcinogens though, would it? How would you, for instance, make our DNA radiation-proof?

[Anonymous No.8207815]

>>8206021
10/10 all of this

[Anonymous No.8207825]

>2020+: marijuana and some other drugs legalised
>2040+: western civilisation collapses

[Anonymous No.8207856]

>>8207806
>That wouldn't address forms of cancer caused by carcinogens though, would it? How would you, for instance, make our DNA radiation-proof?

Can't. But exposure to carcinogens is manageable (like, quit smoking and start vaping, you stupid faggot), same as radiation.

Take some poor dope like /sci/ poster-boy Ishii...just reset his DNA to match normal human norms. Suddenly, things start healing. A flipping miracle.

Such things will be normal in fifteen years time.

[Anonymous No.8208269]

Came up in another thread:

>someone invents memory editing
>mass memory deletion becomes available
>people delete bad memories
>western civilisation collapses

[Anonymous No.8208292]

>>8208269
>>western civilisation collapses
How is this entailed?

Moreover, even if it does happen, why does it matter? Just erase those memories.

[Anonymous No.8208303]

>15-30y depletion of ground water and great aquifers in many arid regions, for example China, central USA, middle east, Africa.
>deforestation
>erosion of top soil
>desertification
>5-15y end of cheap oil, massive reduction of supply
>shutting global logistics and industrial processes down
>everything basically resulting in massive global food shortages, ESPECIALLY in industrialized nations
>global elite shutting themselves in, waiting until the radiation went down
>conflict about remaining resources
>hundreds of millions around the globe starving or killing each other

This is gonna be an interesting century

[Anonymous No.8208315]

>>8208292
Nobody learns any lessons, and it is yet another way of lessening the consequences of bad decisions. Every time something has significantly lessended negative consequences of a bad decision, things have worsened.

[Anonymous No.8208317]

>>8208303
This is a pretty good point, the one major flaw of the beginnings of civilisation (via agriculture) is soil erosion.

[Anonymous No.8208357]

I can't believe any of you have over 110 IQ.

[Anonymous No.8208364]

No one mentioned personalized medicine, genetic sequencing, synthetic genomics, machine/deep learning, quantum computing, fusion power, cheap solar, more efficient and cheap batteries/energy storage.

What is wrong with you pieces of low IQ shit?

[Anonymous No.8208375]

>>8208303
literally nothing of that will happen

[Anonymous No.8208379]

>>8208364
Most of those are things that -should- be happening already, or should have happened 10 or more years ago.
Difficult to make predictions when greed and corporate interests are the only things holding them back.

[Anonymous No.8208385]

by 2020 fully autonomous vehicles will be available
Adoption will be enormous and widespread.
By 2025, a parent can get the IQ of their baby through a genetic test, along with general behavior traits and health information
Along with this technology, the first enhanced humans will start being born worldwide.
2025 will be about the first year singularity will be possible as well. Any number of potential methods can be used to start it off, including human brains used to boot it up and handle goal setting.

Everyone in this thread seems to be a linear thinker, especially the ones talking about resource limitations or poverty.

The immediate future is one of exponential increases. Genetic sequencing and genetic engineering (synthetic genomics as well), Deep learning narrow intelligences, and other things will start to dominate the world in the next decade

Right now the world has an immense amount of information that is not parsed. Such as security cameras, internet surveillance, genetic information, health information, etc. All of that will start to be automatically parsed at exponential rates. Meaning a security camera becomes an AI security warning system that can identify things and even ask them questions. Your genetic information stops being black box garbled information and can be read and give someone an idea of what you look like, your behaviors, your health risks, and your intelligence.

Basically all the data we currently have will start finally being parsed through machine learning created parsers, which are much better than rule-based parsers.

Also, the necessary resources to keep a human alive, food, water, energy, etc will become cheaper and cheaper.

Food can undergo many changes, such as requiring a fraction of the energy to create using synthetic creation processes. Artificially created meat can cost as little as 5% of current meat costs and be completely optimized. Not to mention renewable energy generation by humanity will only increase

[Anonymous No.8208387]

>>8208379
Not really, they simply haven't been possible in the past. A self driving car 10 years ago? It would have required a completely sterile city environment.

These are things possible in the real world in the next decade.

[Anonymous No.8208436]

>>8208357
>I can't believe any of you have over 110 IQ
You need to be in double digits to comprehend that concept, anon.

[Anonymous No.8208931]

>>8205051

Mostly poor people get HIV and those aren't worth saving.

[Anonymous No.8208936]

[Anonymous No.8209099]

They've already found a way to beat HIV and Cancer with CRIPSR but there's ethical limits with releasing it into the population.

[Anonymous No.8209171]

>>8209099
No they haven't

[Anonymous No.8209185]

>>8204842

>2025: Europe is declared to be an Islamic caliphate, with America close behind

>2028: Supreme Leader George Soros makes being white or male a hate crime

>2030: Civilization collapses

[Anonymous No.8209199]

>>8205320
>Curing Cancer is literally our only boundary towards achieving immortality, or at the very least massively extended lifetimes
Nice, you want to create a world without death. A world populated by Matusalems and in which newborns won't stand a chance. I don't know why people are obsessed with curing cancer as if cancer itself wasn't doing us a huge favor.

[Anonymous No.8209220]

>>8209171
Look up what CRISPR is. They've clearly demonstrated that we already have the technology and knowledge to prevent HIV and Cancer development for the rest of humanity's foreseeable future given their experiments done with flies.
They actually cannot release it to the public because all it takes to edit the genes is a lab computer. Some bachelor bio student could release terrible things that could destroy mankind if they let the tech fall into the wrong hands.

[Anonymous No.8209814]

>>8209199
Because cancer is indiscriminate, whereas HIV and AIDS takes out the vulnerable and stupid.

[Anonymous No.8209821]

>>8208936
Islam poses the greatest threat to science.

[Anonymous No.8209830]

I think your predictions are all bullshit

[Anonymous No.8209855]

>>8204842
We'll have an antlike sociotechnical equilibrium by the end of next century or die out

[Anonymous No.8209894]

>>8208936
>Christian Dark Ages
dropped

[Anonymous No.8210044]

>>8209830
t. Pajeet

[Anonymous No.8210059]

>>8205422
>we stupidly underestimated how hard it is to emulate a human brain

Idiot futurists did hurr durr mah neurons and synapses are like zeros and ones omg it's just like a computer digitize it!

I was laughing at them seven years ago and I'm still laughing at them now.

>>8208379

Yeah, it's the dirty bourgeois responsible for this! I-it couldn't possibly be the fact that I was totally off the mark about my ivory tower predictions of the future, n-no!

[Anonymous No.8210063]

>>8209855
>implying humans are capable of ant-like efficiency.

[Anonymous No.8210066]

>>8210063
>asians

[Anonymous No.8210069]

>>8210066
asian efficiency has been dramatically overblown to westerners for marketing purposes

[Anonymous No.8210087]

>>8210066
>>8210069
Still nothing in comparison to ant-like efficiency. Humans are extremely parochial, and very rarely consider the achievement of their nation, or people as an extension of themselves.

[Anonymous No.8210093]

>>8210069
>>8210087
you just couldn't let me enjoy my casual racism?

[Anonymous No.8210119]

>>8204842
>2017 - First AI that can learn languages and talk to people copying other people. Google
>Twitter and Youtube become a new company. Hillary's new political legislation allows competition against the corporations of Sillicon Valley. USA government starts a crisis.
>France leaves the EU. However the company international bussiness doesn't suffer the same flop as GB. So the economic liberalism start developing on Europe thanks to the exit of France.
>2018 - European Brain research shows results. The year when psychology began its decline.
>The Great Boom of programming aplications.
>Drones can now lift 10 kg and move at 30km/h.
>NASA goes bankrupt, the personnel moves to France's new Institute of space technology development.
>Dubai's development stops its spree.
>China intervenes on the ISIS problem. 3 months later, there is a terrorist attack on Berlin.
>A politician affirms CERN creates mini-blackholes since 2011. 2 months later he is murdered.
>2019 - ISIS vanishes. Equatorial Guinea's dictator is murdered. Globalization reachs that country.
>GUJIEE AI company is born.
>Chinese colonization affects the 5% of African cities.
>USA coup d'etat happens but doesn't succeed.
>Corporativism rules again on America.
>Industrialization starts developing faster on South America.
>Fascism government on Japan, makes international companies suffer.
>2020 - Institut de développement de la technologie spatiale(IDTS) announces a Moon project. The costruction of a space station on the Moon. And the goal of traveling from the Moon to the Earth and viceversa is set.
>European brain research personnel are fired.
>Hillary loses the candidature against a moderate republican.
>France launches a satelite to Europa.
>Putin gets killed 2 years after getting elected in 2018. Zubkov is the favourite one.
>Israel social problems causes manifestation against Zionism.
>USA is still the 1st power of robot motion development.
>0,001% of job positions are being occupied by robots.

[Anonymous No.8210728]

>>8204842
Women will be short and huge breasted wide hips and men will be t
6 feet tall black and huge black coks swinging around inner cities amd in positions of powerlike cops and medics

[Anonymous No.8210754]

>>8209199
>A world populated by Matusalems and in which newborns won't stand a chance.
So you want to sacrifice the people who are actually living for the sake of ones who are just an unrealized possibility? You sure are a nice person, senpai.

[Anonymous No.8210766]

PFHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.8210773]

>>8205047
i don't think so either, too many fucking babyboomers will still be alive by then. my dad is of the type that you will have to pry the driver's license from in the grave, autonomous driving isn't going to fly with him.
still, a man can dream.

[Anonymous No.8210969]

>>8210119

>competition is allowed by law
>France leaves EU
>NASA goes bankrupt

U wot m8

[Anonymous No.8210972]

>>8210093
WTF IS THAT PICTURE?

[Anonymous No.8211196]

>>8205343
This picture is stupid. It shows that this futurologist is constant in his belives, not that he is changing. As a young person he predicted 60-70 years, then after 30 years he is still firm in his belives so he predicts 30-40. If anything this shows his confidence not his hopefulness.

[Anonymous No.8211266]

>>8210972
teeth whitening?

[Anonymous No.8211377]

>>8210969
>>competition is allowed by law
Liberal economics
>>France leaves EU
France has a lot of potential, and it was initialy against the union.
>>NASA goes bankrupt
It's afiliation with the USA state will be broken.

Corporations delay technological advancement/enhancement. Pseudo-monopolies exist because the state allows it. If USA allows competition, the quality development will get a Boom.

[Anonymous No.8211402]

>>8209894

Go back to your containment board.

[Anonymous No.8211423]

>>8208936
>Religion
>being relevant without power

[Anonymous No.8211519]

By 2022 the entire planet should've become an exponentially growing mess. The machine takeover should happen around 2023-2025 or even earlier - it depends because the timeline is a little blurred due to constant time-travel interference. Anyways, they will kill everything until finally becoming a galaxy threat which should take about 3-6 months thanks to their fast self development and complete lack of ethics. Humans will be an extinct species by then.

Its entirely possible to avoid that if humans find a way of surpassing the machines. And to do that you have to go beyond every limit.


Be wise. Be ready.