/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.8174398]

What are things that frequently get taught in high school that are actually incorrect/pseudoscience/have conflicting evidence?

>pic related

[Anonymous No.8174402]

everything except for maths

[Anonymous No.8174405]

I find that pretty much all English teachers try to impose their political ideas on the students

[Anonymous No.8174407]

>>8174402
BODMAS, in the United Kingdom.

[Anonymous No.8174410]

>>8174405
Most of epistemology has no basis.

[Anonymous No.8174414]

>>8174398
how tides work.

[Anonymous No.8174415]

>>8174414
The moon, right?

[Anonymous No.8174431]

>>8174405
In Russia things are the same

[Anonymous No.8174454]

>>8174398


Why some of you people have problem with writing and arts?

To be frank, I think that a writer’s journey from alphabetization to greatness is in a great deal solitary. The person will need not only innate talent, a certain level of rough intelligence and several hours of reading and writing, but also other characteristics like strong will-power, endurance, capacity for organizing a routine, capacity for keep on moving despite failures, and other ingredients that are, when we look at it, individual. A great writer will become a great writer not because of a University course, so I do not really think that Universities will help (of course, their libraries and resources will, but I am not sure about the teachers).

Now, why do you people mock great literature? I have heard many times that, if a specific scientist wasn’t born, his findings would eventually be achieved by someone else (and not that much far from the original time). But if Shakespeare wasn’t born we would never have his works.

As for Shakespeare, he is by far the greatest master of language of all time. Nobody has ever created as many sublime metaphors as he; in a single play he produces so vast a number of riches that they worth more than the complete works of other famous poets in some cases. Those who have read his complete works know of what I am talking.

Shakespeare was preceded at least some 3.000 years of writing, and he has been dead now for 400 years, and yet the world has never seen anything like his verbal-exuberance.

So I ask you: how can you despise someone that is capable of doing with language what none of the greatest mathematicians and physicists in the world would be capable even if they tried with all their brain-power?

[Anonymous No.8174457]

>>8174415
doesn't explain how tides work :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwChk4S99i4

[Anonymous No.8174458]

>>8174454
>muh multiple intelligences
Yeah, that was a fraudalent theory

[Anonymous No.8174459]

>>8174454
Wrong thread?

[Anonymous No.8174461]

>>8174405
I remember that as being a more History teacher type thing.

[Anonymous No.8174466]

>>8174405
My German teacher used to always defend the NDP in German class. She is probably an enthusiastic AFD voter now.

[Anonymous No.8174467]

>>8174458

Have you read Shakespeare; do you know the level of greatness we are talking about here?

Do you think that Gauss would be able to write like him?

I bet anything he would not even come close.

[Anonymous No.8174469]

>>8174466
Those are both very right wing parties btw

[Anonymous No.8174472]

>>8174467
That doesn't prove anything. The theory of multiple intelligence has no basis an it is just pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.8174474]

>>8174467
Shakespeare was a homosexual

It is gay af to write poems; only girls should do stuff like that

[Anonymous No.8174478]

>>8174466
>NDP
You a canada fag?

[Anonymous No.8174481]

>>8174474
Fuccin this

[Anonymous No.8174490]

My science teacher in highschool was a conspiracy theorist that believed in aliens and thought that 9/11 was a inside job, no joke

On early release days he would play 9/11 docs and try to show us how it was faked or gamble with the students

[Anonymous No.8174491]

>>8174472

Yes, I agree with you on that. I also think that if you have greater general intelligence you will likely perform better in a greater variety of topics.

But I don’t understand why some people say that mathematics is the greatest area of knowledge in the world and great music, literature, painting, sculpture, etc., are not.

Then they say: “Yeah, but is much harder for one to make the realizations of Gauss than to write a great play”, and is here that the problem lies. If it is so much easier to write something like Henry IV, A Midsummer Night Dream and Macbeth, why nobody can do it? Why achievements like that are so rare?

And if writing great poetry is much easier, then why don’t Dirac, Gauss and Newton do it? Why Terence Tao couldn’t handle well creative writing even in school-level?

[Anonymous No.8174504]

>>8174491
Again, wrong thread. OPs picture is just talking about multiple intelligence theory.

As to why some people say mathematics is the greatest area of knowledge is because many people understands the depth, complexity and beauty of mathematics. That doesn't mean that other areas aren't worth, just that math is better overall. It's called an opinion lad.

[Anonymous No.8174513]

>>8174504
>Again, wrong thread. OPs picture is just talking about multiple intelligence theory.

Ok. Well, about multiple intelligence theory I must agree that is something of a feel-good all-inclusive fiction.

About math, I am not that well versed on it, but I have great admiration for the subject. I wish I had the natural gift for this science.

[Anonymous No.8174541]

>>8174478
The NDP is Nazi revivalism in Germany essentially

[Anonymous No.8174544]

>>8174398
Real numbers.

[Anonymous No.8174565]

One gene, one protein.

[Anonymous No.8174597]

>>8174474
>It is gay af to write poems; only girls should do stuff like that
not the fag you replied to, but that's just plain retarded your melanin is showing.

[Anonymous No.8174635]

>>8174597
Shakespeare was black though

[Anonymous No.8174647]

>>8174467
Greatness is subjective, I think Shakespeare is a bad writer.

[Anonymous No.8174648]

manmade climate change

[Anonymous No.8174656]

>>8174647
This. He could've been a lot more to the point. Instead of going on about comparing his lover to a summer's day, he could've said he wants to put his penis in his ass.

Fucking faggots with their gay af poems.

[Anonymous No.8174658]

>>8174656

2/10

[Anonymous No.8174723]

>>8174398
psychology

[Anonymous No.8174738]

Light gets oversimplified.

See that glass on the table next to you that sunlight is passing through?

Light that was generated by the sun, travelled at c in empty space to reach Earth at which point the light slowed down upon reaching the atmosphere, then changed its velocity again going through the windows, once again going through the glass and then again when it went through the fluid in your eye.

The speed of light is constant in any given medium. From a system standpoint, light is constantly changing speeds.

[Anonymous No.8174751]

>>8174635
Bro that's Katt Williams

[Anonymous No.8174762]

>>8174454
Shakespeare is nowhere near deserving of the kind of praise you heap on him desu

hamfisted metaphors and awkwardly shoehorning dialogue into arbitrary meter is neither special nor impressive

[Anonymous No.8174788]

>>8174541
O
It's a left wing party in Canada
...got that one pretty wrong

[Anonymous No.8174801]

>>8174762

Why dont you try to write better poetry?

Also, metaphors are the greatest thing in poetry, and that even in the opinion of people like Aristotle.

Shakespeare could writer better than any great scientist. In his field he is supreme.

And if you think there is no merit on it, if you think it is easy, just try to write a speech about a simple topic like love, or freedom, or nature. If you are bolder, try to put the speech in metric.

[Anonymous No.8174803]

>>8174762
>s neither special nor impressive

What do you think it is impressive and special?

[Anonymous No.8174816]

>>8174801
Yeah, let me go ahead and put forth the effort to do that just so that you can invariably yell that it's trash without reading it because you're butthurt

[Anonymous No.8174833]

>>8174398
Fucking pic related. A 5-yo can debunk it by poutting sugar on the middle of his tongue.

[Anonymous No.8174843]

>>8174816

I'm a little disappointed, I admit, but I have honesty and integrity enough to admit that you have talent or that you did something well, even if I am mad with you.

But you do not even have to show me your essay or poem, just try and write for yourself and then compare it with the great Shakespearean passages on the subject in question. His poetry it is another level; I'm always looking for the same pleasure and the same sense of marvel in other poets and writers, but unfortunately only a few times I feel the same touch of exuberance.

Shakespeare is not original in his thinking; many of his philosophical passages are not deep (nothing in his whole body of work is indeed really complicated), but his language is the most sublime that has been ever knitted. If angels and gods exist they would speak like Shakespeare's characters.

I think people exaggerate when they call him the greatest master of the human character and mind (even though he had created several different characters from all social classes, of all ages, of several diferent enviroments), and are wrong to celebrate this "knowledge of the human spirit" as his main realization. His greatest achievement is the poetic brocade of his works.

[Anonymous No.8174854]

>>8174843
you're acting as both judge and advocate here

I shouldn't have to explain why that is a bad thing

[Anonymous No.8174855]

>>8174833
What does umami mean?

[Anonymous No.8174859]

>>8174855
Savory

think of the characteristic taste of meat or mushrooms, that's umami

[Anonymous No.8174865]

>>8174854

Just read this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Shakespeares-Imagery-What-Tells-Us/dp/0521092582/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467325152&sr=1-1&keywords=caroline+spurgeon

Dont worry about the author's conclusions, but enjoy the selection of several Shakespearean metaphors and similes. I think you will change your mind about him.

[Anonymous No.8174876]

>>8174865

I also recomend this book about metaphor:

https://www.amazon.com/Other-Secret-Metaphor-Shapes-World/dp/0061710296/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467325423&sr=1-3&keywords=metaphor

It shows the importance of this figure of speech in many areas, and above all in the construction of language

[Anonymous No.8174877]

>>8174398
Well, just because this irks me, that whole specific learning type thing in your pic is the bane of teachers everywhere. We are capable of doing all of those styles. Just because one is easier than the other doesn't mean you can't do the others.

>I didn't do well because I'm a kinesthetic learner and we need to do all kinesthetic learning or I won't learn anything

Tough shit, kiddo, you did shit on your test because you didn't study like you should have

[Anonymous No.8174960]

>>8174398
Growth Mindset

[Anonymous No.8174970]

>>8174407
What's wrong with it? It's used in order when simplifying and used in "reverse order" when trying to solve an equation. If you're so scared of misusing it and accidentally not giving D/M or A/S the same prority, you can always rewrite division as [math]a \frac{1}{b}[/math] and subtraction as [math]a + (-b)[/math]

[Anonymous No.8174987]

>>8174970
That's great advice, anon.

[Anonymous No.8174993]

>>8174960
I wish they did teach that. Would have less lazy but smart memes.

[Anonymous No.8175006]

>>8174467
Shakespeare dies at birth
-the world is the same

Gauss dies at birth
-the world is grossly different

I'm sure that Gauss' discoveries would have eventually been discovered by others, but he did a lot to advance math and science in his lifetime.

Shakespeare was a great writer, but who cares? People would be slightly less entertained by other people's plays. It doesn't affect the.course of history.

[Anonymous No.8175015]

>english teachers substitute their own opinions for literary fact
>basically all of history is taught wrong or in a misleading way
>economics
>Freud/meme-level psychology (example: order of birth determines personality)

And the worst of all the misunderstandings of scientific theory from people who just barely got their B.A. in the field. You'll mostly see it in biology class. Physics and chemistry classes don't ever get far enough to cover something difficult enough to be misinterpreted. But in 9th grade I was taking a biology class where they tried to teach us about evolution and natural selection and how the chemistry of the cell works to produce energy.
>this is before taking chemistry or physics.

[Anonymous No.8175023]

>>8174544
Check'd

[Dark mane No.8175027]

>>8175015
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.

[Anonymous No.8175030]

>>8174415
How did the moon get there?
Cant explain that

[Anonymous No.8175037]

>>8175027
This is wrong because...?

[Anonymous No.8175038]

>>8175006
>If it aint STEM, it dont matter

Brainlet.

[Anonymous No.8175041]

>>8175030
A planetary body struck a much younger earth. Debris from the collision orbited the planet and eventually clumped together into a satellite

chekm8theists

[Anonymous No.8175046]

>>8175038
He's not wrong

The arts are a fun diversion from the crushing realities of daily life but they are not necessary in any sort of way

[Anonymous No.8175052]

>>8175046
>the arts ... are not necessary in any way

Tell that to the women who won't fuck you because the only skill you have is being an unapproachable sperglord who solves math problems at the bar.

[Anonymous No.8175063]

>>8175052
I'm married, so I don't need to try and impress whores at the bar. And even if I wanted to, talking about Shakespeare is that fastest way to dry up a girls vagina. It's far easier to spend a few hours a week in the gym. As a bonus guys will also take me seriously and both think of m a weird little faggot obsessed with poetry.

[Anonymous No.8175064]

>>8175052
Lol so much ass pain

Keep pretending you'll get a handjob for playing three cowboy chords on a cheap acoustic

[Anonymous No.8175065]

>>8175046
nothing in life is truly necessary.

[Anonymous No.8175067]

>>8174398
>Kinesthetic
How the fuck are you supposed to learn anything by moving around?

Is this just a case of educators giving up, and letting the dumb-fucks that enroll untrained kids into schools run the show, or do people actually think letting a bunch of kids jump around counts as studying?

[Anonymous No.8175069]

>>8175063
*and not think of me as a weird little faggot
fuggin phone

[Anonymous No.8175070]

>>8175006
>>8175046

And what is the value of new technologies? What is the value of knowing the truths about the universe? In the end everything will be dissolved, all our achievements and certainties, and then what was the use of having cars and airplanes?

Technologies facilitate our lives;
Scientific discoveries make us know more aspects of the truth;
Great art gives us pleasure and makes human beings have a small spark of divinity (to generate small worlds)

But at the end of the day it will all disappear, then what's the value of anything?

And if scientific discoveries would be made anyway (even if the first names never have been born) is it not even more serious the loss of a Shakespeare or a Bach, human beings that seem to take us to the limits of our creative ability?

[Anonymous No.8175072]

>>8175067
Learning by doing. Hands on learning. It's a thing.

[Anonymous No.8175073]

>>8174803
Triple integrals

[Anonymous No.8175075]

>>8175063

He is not me, the Shakespeare-anon.

I dont like personal offenses.

[Anonymous No.8175076]

>>8175065
I remember when I was 13 and thought nihilism was cool

>>8175070
>small spark of divinity
the fuck are you on about m8

>is it not even more serious the loss of a Shakespeare or a Bach, human beings that seem to take us to the limits of our creative ability?
no, because such limits would have been found by some other artist anyway. maybe not in the exact same way, but with such a nebulous concept as "the limits of our creative ability" there is no need for the same artistic achievements

[Anonymous No.8175081]

>>8175070
A great play will entertain you for a couple hours. Refrigeration will prevent millions of people from dying of starvation.

The arts aren't unimportant, but they have little effect on human history. STEM has a direct and lasting effect on pretty much everyone. Shakespeare mostly serves to bore 8th graders and turn them off from reading.

[Anonymous No.8175089]

>>8175081

Well, ok. But remember that technological advances are much more of a collective effort than works of a single mind.

[Anonymous No.8175090]

>>8175076
>nihilism

lol you are the edgy teenager here m8. artistic expression is a part of the human psyche, we aren't designed to be meat robots. it is entirely necessary for societal well being. to claim differently means that none of things that science and technology brings us is necessary either because the purpose of technology is to improve the quality of life of our fellow man.

[Anonymous No.8175097]

>>8175090
I never said artistic expression isn't part of the human psyche or whatever point you're pretending I said so you can knock it over.

All I said was that the arts have no vital importance, which is true

[Anonymous No.8175099]

>>8175097
you literally said
>they are not necessary in any sort of way
which is untrue. artistic expression is entirely necessary to create a well adjusted society.

[Anonymous No.8175102]

>>8175099
100% false. you're either retarded or you wasted your time and money on a fine arts degree if you legitimately think that

[Anonymous No.8175105]

>>8175102
>100% false
uh-huh. all those societies that actively suppressed artistic expression had pretty great runs in history, right?

[Anonymous No.8175107]

Global warming/man made climate change

Smoking being bad for you

The entire "drugs are bad" narrative adopted by public schooling

[Anonymous No.8175112]

>>8175105
yeah literally the only thing wrong with those societies was they didn't have plays or art museums and there were no other reasons whatsoever that they caved in on themselves, sure

[Anonymous No.8175137]

>>8175046
He is wrong. He inspired John Wilkes Booth, he inspired Freud, he contributed new words to the english language, he explored social situations and sexuality in his plays that no one had ever publically and successfully done before.

[Anonymous No.8175140]

>>8175137
low quality b8

>>8175107
lower quality b8

[Anonymous No.8175146]

>>8175140
>b8

Heres your (you), Brainlet

[Anonymous No.8175164]

>>8175146
don't be mad that nobody took your b8

just post better b8

[Anonymous No.8175181]

>>8174454
I get the impression that you think you are a good writer.

You aren't.

[Anonymous No.8175203]

>>8175015
This.
All of my science teachers in elementary through high school had no idea what they were talking about and tried to shill creationism on us. You shouldn't be able to teach science if you only have a degree in teaching.

[Anonymous No.8175205]

>>8175181
like you could do any better (protip: you can't)

[Anonymous No.8175226]

>>8175203
A degree in teaching requires several science classes

[Anonymous No.8175245]

>>8175226
People lose their knowledge when they teach nothing but grade school level subjects for decades. Its not like breaking bad where a dude can teach nothing but high school chem for 15 years and still be a prodigal chemist.

[Anonymous No.8175250]

>>8175245
why would they lose their knowledge of what they're supposed to teach when they teach it for decades?

you're not making much sense, anon

[Anonymous No.8175300]

>>8174454
>be pretentious writer fag
>fail this hard a reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.8175317]

>>8175089
Because shakespeare created the entire English language and literary tradition all by himself

[Anonymous No.8175324]

>>8175250
They only teach the basics, they wont retain nearly as much of the higher division knowledge if all they do not put this knowledge to practice.

[Anonymous No.8175340]

>>8174405
I felt like my English teachers are pretty balanced.
History was extremely centered around my teacher's politics.

[Anonymous No.8175341]

>>8175324
If they're teaching the basics why do they need to know more than the basics?

Do you have a point? Because it doesn't seem like you have a point

[Anonymous No.8175410]

>>8175107
Drugs are bad is kinda true

Few drugs are actually any worse than alcohol

[Anonymous No.8175488]

>>8174788
Ahem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany_(East_Germany)
>defunct East German political party for ex-Nazis
Yes it no longer exists, but it could be what anon was thinking of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany
Current-day German "far-right ultranationalist" political party, frequently labeled as a neo-Nazi organization.

[Anonymous No.8175516]

>>8175041
This is still an assumption, not an explaination.

[Anonymous No.8175530]

>>8175341
Grade school teachers are not experts in the subjects they teach and are some of the least infallible members of society.

[Anonymous No.8175825]

>>8175488
He's saying that he got it wrong, not you, silly.

[Anonymous No.8175923]

Students get taught things wrong majority of the time because of 1) the curriculum, and 2) constructivism.

The curriculum is it's own standpoint.

Constructivism is basically what lead to the idea of transgender and all that gender crap becoming legitimate as topics through the extreme thought process of it all.

The problem with constructivism is that teachers are not suppose to be dispensers of knowledge, instead students are suppose to construct their own knowledge through meaning and connections to the real world and how they see things fit. This idea lead to all kinds of atrocities for students like students believing in Rutherfords pudding model of the atom.

High schools generally don't teach too many things that are seen as absolutely wrong when taught at a university level. They might be teaching the previous model i.e. electon and nucleus for an atom, because that is a lot easier to understand than say the probability density one.

[Anonymous No.8175966]

>>8174405
I think the point of english is to teach you abstract/critical thinking skills. The whole point of gleaning symbolism from a book, interpreting multiple possible interpretation etc. is to teach you to abstract. Good english teachers usually focus on that, but I can see some of them just turning it into their own political soapbox.

[KingChem !!zPoJzZdyEr+ No.8176029]

>>8175006
I hate Shakespeare too but he was influential in developing the English language. Furthermore literacy rates are pretty much the final word on the development level of a country.

[Anonymous No.8176034]

>>8174398
Darwinian Evolution

[KingChem !!zPoJzZdyEr+ No.8176038]

>>8175137
This also, the humanities create the social structures necessary to foster scientific development. Why did Russia only become a scientific powerhouse after westernizing? Why did they go on to briefly outdo the West itself after designing their own ideology? All of you would be farmers or factory workers if it wasn't for political thinkers who instituted public schooling.

[Anonymous No.8176047]

>>8174405
My history teacher did this. He also tried to push his science views on people, such as climate change is a myth, and evolution has nothing to back it up and was made up. Pretty annoying.

[Anonymous No.8176145]

>>8174454
>As for Shakespeare, he is by far the greatest master of language of all time.
You must be over 18 to post. Next time shill literature with an actual writer, not the forced meme of 1st year HS.

[Anonymous No.8176390]

>>8176047
I hated that. When you're in grade school, you are being taught to learn, and more importantly, HOW to learn. Teachers asserting their personal opinions as facts is teaching kids not to come to conclusions about ideas, but just to blindly trust authority.

[Anonymous No.8176398]

>>8174454
>Why some of you people have problem with writing and arts?
From my experiences on this board I'd say a mixture of memes and autism.

[Anonymous No.8176416]

[math]\sqrt{-1} = i[/math]
I know it's really inconsequential but it never fails to kill me inside a little bit, and every high school kid learns it like this.

>>8175006
>Shakespeare dies at birth
>-the world is the same
You're joking, right?

[Anonymous No.8176654]

>>8176416
Is it true that positive and negative numbers and positive and negative imaginary numbers can be mapped like an XY cartesian coordinate system?

[Anonymous No.8176682]

>>8176654
Yes...?

[Anonymous No.8176687]

>>8176390
>>8176047
>climate change
>opinion

[Anonymous No.8176708]

>>8176682
Cool. Im only in calc 3 and DiffEq. It came up in DiffEq and I was trying to figure if r=a+bi were coordinates.

[Anonymous No.8176716]

>>8176687
The significance of human contribution to climate change is still unclear and assertions about it are opinions.

Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.8176725]

>>8176708
Oh, nice. Yeah there's actually a lot of cool parallels between what you would learn in a Calc III class and what goes on in an introductory complex variables/analysis course. In some ways (ie. Cauchy integral formula) complex functions can actually behave more nicely that real functions, which I thought was cool.

[Anonymous No.8176772]

>>8174544
nice wildberger dubs

[Anonymous No.8176782]

>>8174843
dude your economy of words is for shit. it takes you several paragraphs to convey pretty basic arguments and ideas. its poor ineffective writing.

[Anonymous No.8176814]

>>8174398
My teachers taught me everyday was a white male's day.
>mfw never had to skip class and eat cultural food with others like me
>mfw never had to skip class and listen to inspirational speakers in the gymnasium encouraging me to get good
>mfw never had skip class and celebrate my gender

At least I get to celebrate being a white male everyday, reaping those benefits.

[Anonymous No.8176861]

>>8176654
Yeah, search up 'complex plane' when you have time if you're actually interested. It's pretty cool too because on that plane, you could imagine [math]i[/math] as an operation that's "rotating" real numbers 90° counter-clockwise. Let's start with [math]1 + 0i[/math]. When you "rotate" this number twice (ie: mux. [math]i[/math] twice), the line of [math]1+0i[/math] "rotates" a total of 180 degrees, which lands it at [math]-1[/math]. Mux by [math]i[/math] again, 270 degrees, now you're at [math]-i[/math], one last time lands you at 360 and back to [math]1[/math]. It's a nice interpretation imo as opposed to: "[math]i^2 = -1[/math] cause mathematicians say so!" And a pretty nice visualization that graphically reveals how [math]i^3 = -i[/math]

>>8176416
It depends on the teacher actually. I am not surprised that most present [math]i[/math] like dogma though. It's pretty sad, I know.

[Anonymous No.8176876]

>>8176782
>dude your economy of words is for shit.

There is more to writing than economy of words. Many of the greatest plays, poems or novels are actually quite un-concise. To use language only as a form of transmitting knowledge is the same thing as banning music for not serving any specific purpose, and only allowing people to use sounds that convey useful and productive meaning.

Furthermore, to judge someone’s writing capacities with only some fast-written posts in a discussion as evidence - in a language that might not even be the native one to the poster - is a unfair and dishonest attitude.

[Anonymous No.8176943]

>>8174474
>It is gay af to write poems; only girls should do stuff like that

You're only constricting yourself with a mentality like that. To me what it looks like is that, there are certain things in the world that you could be doing and might even enjoy but you simply won't just because you perceive it as being "gay". It's completely irrelevant to me or anyone else but I'm glad I don't have a mindset like yours.

[Anonymous No.8176971]

>>8174398
I (later) found that in the hard sciences the falsehoods aren't really dangerous and are mostly a function of teachers being B- students who wanted summers off for their adult lives. The more pernicious element is that to some extent the current level of the instructor's knowledge is too close to where ~THEY~ hope a student should be. The most blissful experience I ever had in school was at age 10 during the 2 month period in science where we made electric generators and then made electric motor and (SURPRISE) it turned out that they were basically the same device. A collection of schools pulled money for hardware and kits migrated around the school system. My instructor only had to read the notes and I had a marvelous time.

If I had to pick, the most glaring examples are:
>geometric interpretation calculus TO GET AP CREDIT
>viruses are life...they aren't alive...but they eat my immune cells...EXPLAIN
>gravity "*IS*" the law of ballistic motion...but what about that cosmology stuff on TV?...IT'S NOT ON THE TEST
>light is energy; heat lamps are hot; heat is energy; heat is light
>the teacher being a disciplinarian but never being able to discuss any development (new truth) from the last 20 years - got Bert Stared in bio and math a lot with questions about Archea and financial math and economic turmoil

[Anonymous No.8176983]

>>8174544
Fucking hell. His hair says ONE DAY, his eyebrows say FIGHT, and his eyes say DRINK. It's like if Malcolm McDowell spent his live trying to use Youtube to prove conclusively that Caligula was good.

[Anonymous No.8177166]

>>8174855
seamen

[Anonymous No.8177216]

>>8174398
Biggest load of shit was that "You kids are so good with computers that you don't need to be taught anything in school" what a fucking load of tripe. The amount of people my age (20) who can't even use a torrent, never mind make a webpage or write simple programs. The amount who couldn't explain at a basic level what cache memory is or explain the concept of an object is mind boggling. Young people don't know shit about tech. Technology savy isn't being able to operate MS Office (and by that I mean PowerPoint and Word, because lord knows none of these fucks can use Excel or Access properly) and browse the web.

[Anonymous No.8177224]

>>8176971
By geometric interpretation, do you mean slopes and areas? As opposed to real analysis.

[Anonymous No.8177248]

>>8174405
Yeah, while my history teachers stay pretty balanced, the whole english department jumps at any world issue and make I do assignments focused on their point of view.

[Anonymous No.8177279]

>>8176861
Go back to the shithole you came from, degenerate >>>/a/

[Anonymous No.8177488]

>>8177279
>Posting simple algebra for an anon is more related to chinese cartoons rather than mathematics
wew

[Anonymous No.8177617]

>>8174405
More so my History teachers than English teachers.

[Anonymous No.8177625]

Education major reporting in:

The entire premise of tests is an archaic, useless system that is based on old methodologies.

Back in the day when you got your degree from a school and went off to buckfuck nowhere to use your newly gained surgeon skills to operate on orphans, locals liked having proof you went to school. Enter: The Diploma!

But because your were a three days carriage ride away from school, you couldn't bring the entire library of knowledge with you, which means you had to have everything memorized before striking out on your own, fair enough. So schools administered tests to evaluate if you were ready to receive your diploma, which meant no talking to peers and quietly taking the test, since you had to have that shit memorised.

Today we have this shit called the internet though, which completely nullifies the entire principle of the standardised test. Don't remember planck's constant? Flip out your smartphone and google that shit in two seconds, done!

Instead of testing students ability to actually USE their skills, tests today STILL test their memorisation skills and little more.

Which is why students struggle in math, since post grade 4 you can't memorise every possible algebraic equation, so when you spend 5-6 years training students to just memorise shit monotonously for testing purposes and then suddenly start handing them tests you can't memorize the answers to, of fucking course they will struggle with it.

Then they get frustrated and give up, and thats why the majority of adults find math boring, difficult, and useless.

Because you can't memorise it.

[Anonymous No.8177628]

>>8176861
Im pretty certain high school kids would have no problem handling the imaginary plane around second half of grade 11, right after becoming familiar with exponential equations and the number plane.

It's just a neater version of it, but I see most students just nodding their head and after you work out one or two examples of multiplying imaginary numbers, most students will go "Ohh, that makes sense" pretty quick.

The issue is you'll ACTUALLY just have a bunch of students ask 'Where are we ever going to need this in life though?"

[Anonymous No.8177646]

>>8176943
>t. man who has sucked a LOT of cock

[Anonymous No.8177661]

>> 8175081 #
>didn't contribute to human history

You're.. not that bright, are you?

[Anonymous No.8177668]

>>8174398
It isn't wrong. I have trouble recalling audio but can remember "screenshots" of textbook pages easily.

[Anonymous No.8177745]

>>8177628
>most students will go "Ohh, that makes sense" pretty quick.
Yeah. I remember when I was in HS, I actually don't recall anybody complaining about [math]i[/math]. Most just simply accepted the fact that [math]i[/math] was defined as being [math]-1[/math] when squared. But at the same time, there was other odd stuff being shown at the time so being introduced to the imaginary unit and basic operations and properties of complex numbers was practically nothing, just something to be a bit more careful on since [math]i[/math] is oddly interesting. Looking back, it's pretty cool seeing how simple each concept was yet how complex and useful they truly are.

>The issue is you'll ACTUALLY just have a bunch of students ask 'Where are we ever going to need this in life though?"
The teacher I had hated that question. His rants on it I guess explains why nobody complained about learning about them along with a few other topics. Usually the people who ask whether or not they'll using what they learn """in life""" are people who're failing the class and can not afford to learn one more new concept because they need a lot to catch up on. Either that or fail to think for themselves. Usually they can easily be shut down by asking them to define in what context do they mean "use in life". Because hey, we were forced to read literature, history, etc, etc, and when will I ever use that in science? Yeah, exactly. But I nor most others don't complain about it because at such low levels it's pretty manageable for everybody + the entire purpose of high school is to gain a general knowledge on a variety of subjects so that you may actually experience whether or not you'll like some certain subjects (art, history, etc.,) as opposed to others (science, math, etc.,). (I know many will meme arrow me for this).

[Anonymous No.8178219]

>>8174466
NDP/NPD is a leftist canadian party
NPD is a right-wing german party

[Anonymous No.8178533]

>>8177668
Do you remember the actual text?

Then you have photographic memory. This is different from the idea of learning styles though.

[Anonymous No.8178562]

My high school had archaic text books so you got a lot of misinformation in there. One thing that comes to mind is how lactic acid is responsible for muscle soreness and I'm sure there's a slew of other things.

[Anonymous No.8178569]

>>8177488
Go spam your degenerate images over there please >>>/a/

[Anonymous No.8178742]

>>8177625
>Flip out your smartphone and google that shit in two seconds, done!

You're like the dumb bitches I'd hear talk about getting wasted and getting their assholes bleached then how they wanna be teachers 'cause they love kids.

[Anonymous No.8178749]

>>8178569

Reported you for violating global rule #6. Keep your posts informative, loser.

[Anonymous No.8178752]

>>8174454
>the world has never seen anything like his verbal-exuberance.

Aesop Rock.
http://poly-graph.co/vocabulary.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjtniqCQ5E

[Anonymous No.8178757]

>>8174461
>Mfw history teach was always critical of the validity of the holocaust and would spend half the lesson going on about how good looking she thought speer was

[Anonymous No.8178767]

>>8178749
Don't forget flooding, but you forget we're a containment board and this spam is normal here.

[Anonymous No.8178790]

>>8174405
We had a socialist history teacher in my country.

[Anonymous No.8179654]

>>8177216
>It's these same kids that major in CS

[Anonymous No.8179735]

>>8178757
by any chance, your history teacher is evalion
she is my favorite youtube girl of all time :^)

[Anonymous No.8179745]

derision of IQ, given it is among the only empirical and reproductive branches in psychology.

[Anonymous No.8179759]

>>8174398
Everything, including math.

In the USA, school exists not for teaching kids to be smart, but instead to teach them how to be good consumerists, drones, and authority lovers.

My cousin said they dropped art class completely at the local Elementary and HS. It was replaced by some sort of class about social media on Facebook. Evidently, the teachers also post the homework on their Facebook pages or something.

[Anonymous No.8179760]

>>8176782
You should have went with, "NO U!" If you wanted to be an effective writer.

[Anonymous No.8179765]

>>8175205
shitty argument No. 2761

[Anonymous No.8180641]

>>8174454
Look at neo-latin languages to find real literary genius, not your british wankers.

pro-tip: Dante, Leopardi, Quasimodo, Homer, Virgil etc. (all greater than Shakespeare)

[Anonymous No.8180642]

>>8174405
My English teacher made us write oppression reports from books from her social justice bookshelf

I'm not making this up

[Anonymous No.8180670]

>>8174398
- Evolution. Not that the theory is incorrect, but rather that its explained in a oversimplified manner

- Basic aerodynamics. Pic: as beautifully portrayed by xkcd

- WW1. Germany was NOT responsible for WW1. WW1 was the combined result of 20th century European nationalism, trains, defense agreements and bad luck(see "the seminal tragedy").


>>8176983
underrated post

[Anonymous No.8180712]

>>8180641
You dont know much about poetry. Metaphor is the greatest thing in poetry, and no other writer comes close to Shakespeare in exuberance of imagery. He also created thousands of characters and worked with several different atmospheres, plots and philosophys. He is much more varied than even Dante and Homer. I seriuosly think you have probably read only 2 or 3 of his plays and is judging Shakespeare with very limited knowledge.

[Anonymous No.8180715]

>>8174398
I hate the OP meme pic related. I've heard it in two different classes I took in the past year. It's been proven already there's no basis for this teaching. I'm too lazy to look it up. But the learning styles is a big meme. There's money is selling the meme though ...books, courses, teaching workshops etc....so of course it won't go away.

[Anonymous No.8181350]

>>8174405
In germany englisch textbooks are full of
climatechange Black rights usw
i remember when i should make a poster about malcom x .... i used pic relatet

[Anonymous No.8181420]

>>8174398
- We have five senses
- There's only three states of matter
- Protons and neutrons are indivisible
- Columbus discovered America
- We evolve from monkeys (We have a common ancestor, it's different and we're more related to gorillas than monkeys)

[Anonymous No.8181452]

>>8175107
>The entire "drugs are bad" narrative adopted by public schooling
They never really address the "bad" parts of drugs other than dance around the fact that they're negative. They should be discussing the long term effects and potential mental illnesses and dependencies, caffeine included.

[Anonymous No.8181480]

>>8174855
meaty

[Anonymous No.8181657]

>>8176416
What's wrong with i?

[Anonymous No.8181692]

These:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions#Physics

Especially how the wings on airplanes work.

[Anonymous No.8182114]

>>8174398
How airfoils works:
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/wrong1.html