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is mathematics just a branch of language?

>> No.8165461

>>8165457
Yeah sure whatever

>> No.8165466

>>8165457
Is /sci/ the most powerful and strengthy board on 4chan?

>> No.8165473

>>8165457
It's just an analogy

>> No.8165486

>>8165457
mathematics is the language of logic

>> No.8165502

No. /thread

>> No.8165561

>>8165457
Of course

>>8165486
logos = word

>> No.8166652

>>8165466
FACT

>> No.8167693

>>8165486
i agree,

>> No.8168671

>>8167693
>>8165486
The validity of math isn't logical and reasoned, though, it is symbolic and axiomatic.

>> No.8168678

>>8168671
Logic isn't axiomatic? You pick some potential facts and follow through the consequences. Logic can't discover ultimate truth any more than math. The best it can do it determine consistency of a set of statements.

>> No.8168680

>>8165457
All creative expressions are isomorphic

>> No.8168704

>>8165457

language is a branch of mathematics

>> No.8168718

>>8168678
No, the vast field of logic is a as much a language as math, but is more vague and qualitative which gives unique dynamic and emergent properties that can't be restricted or defined by a set of axioms inherent in math symbols.

If anything, Math is the language of quantity and logic is the language of reasoning.

>> No.8169008

>>8165457
No because grammar makes no sense while math does

>> No.8169023

>>8165486
Actually, you have that the other way around. Mathematics deals with axiomatic systems over a formal logic over a formal language.

>>8165457
No, but it is practiced over a formal language.

>> No.8169039

>>8165457
Branches are a Language of Mathematics

>> No.8169044

>>8165457
Mathematics is hierarchical schema of reasoning that comes bundled with logical axioms and the necessary jargon to adequately describe them and their results. It is a language, but also other things simultaneously. So, no, math is not "just" a branch of language.

>>8168718
>human perception isnt limited
>reasoning isnt intrinsically axiomatic

We can believe these if we want, there's nothing that says we can't play pretend.

>> No.8169055

>>8165457
math is not a language you idiot

>> No.8169092

Language is the mathematics of branches

>> No.8169095

Branches are the mathematics of language

>> No.8169096

>>8165457
It could function as a language, couldn't it? Not a mathfag myself, and I can't explain it adequately... But let's say we received contact from an alien civilization... Couldn't we, somehow, get an idea of how complex they are through mathematics? After all, every language is bound by a set of rules. They're just, an expansion of logic, in a sense?

I don't have the necessary knowledge or expertise in language/math to express myself, but I think the idea is legit. Can someone who knows wtf I'm referring to tell me if what I'm thinking makes sense?

>> No.8169102

>>8169096
Shut up. We're talking about languaging mathematical branches here.

>> No.8169106

>>8169102
:( b-but that doesn't even make sense

>> No.8170655

>>8169044
Believe what you want neither of those things is related to anything I said.

How is human perception limited to mathematical symbols?
What are the axioms of reason?