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Should research institutes and universities exist outside 1st world countries? Usually they are way behind the current development, and are not even able to replicate or understand old result, less do something new.

Let me be more specific:

- poor people do not see or understand the causality, the cannot the difference between correlation and causation,

- they cannot handle facts in a systematic way, there is no tradition of doing so, even if they do the knowledge does not pass to younger generations,

- doing science requires peace of mind and your material needs to be satisfied, poor countries are always unstable which makes you think more about survival, not the nature of the universe,

- if you are poor you feel insecure and do not share your knowledge with anyone, nor talk openly about your research, this slows the development.

- even if poor people visit foreign universities they are forced to do what their supervisors required from them, when they come back, everyone is doing their own subject, so there is no coherence, just chaos,

- it ends looking like the cargo cult, and is an offence to rational thinking and common sense, moreover they are made to publish a lot which ends in publishing shitty, poorly written papers,

- last but not least, young intelligent people have no incentives to become researches, work in foreign company is better paid and often easier, and they see the misery of the elder

In the ancient Egypt the knowledge was kept by priests. You should go back to that pattern and stop tormenting subhuman creatures with things they are unable to cope with.

>> No.8134698

>>8134684
>- poor people do not see or understand the causality, the cannot the difference between correlation and causation,
your reasoning is simply unquestionable

there should be a law making it illegal for any countries outside the US, Canada, Europe and maybe Japan and South Korea to have universities, instead they should focus on issues that affect their poor population like buses and running water

>> No.8134985

>>8134698

>they cannot tell the difference between

maybe not a law but just a principle

one cannot simply skip several hundred years of development and claim everyone has equal chances

it is a lie

>> No.8135011

>>8134985
No one wants "development" à la West.
6 billion people actually make fun of you guys because you're only driven by money and think you're actually free.
The truth is you're afraid that people in poorer countries focus more on engineering than on liberal arts.

>> No.8135074

>>8135011
Don't worry, once the right wing takes over in europe and the US we will stop giving you undermensch people development funds and you can enjoy your non-money driven society in peace.

>> No.8135086

Most of them are too busy majoring in things to make a living, women don't need advocacy in stem to be in STEM, they have to be valued in the workforce or else. Their cognitive elite high IQs can and should partake. It partitions like chiefs and Indians.

>> No.8135109

>>8135074
Development funds start doing more harm than good as the assessed corruption levels increase, and civicness and wealth decrease.

Not even him btw.

>> No.8135116

>>8134684
>no high education for all
Well if you mean, more elitism, I agree.
>no education at all.
If you mean that. You don't understand capitalism progress.

Go to bed underage.

>> No.8135129

>>8135074
you actually think we need help, that's cute.

>> No.8135130

>>8135074
The whole point of "aid" is for its geopolitical and economic benefits to the "generous" country. Countries like America dump foodstuff and other junk on third world countries to subsidize their corporations and undercut foreign competition while gaining more geopolitical power over the countries they "help". If the West stopped "helping out" the third world the balance of power will just shift to China or Russia as the new neo-imperalist global power.
Blunt imperialism isn't politically correct today so you just need to be subtler about it. Imperialism was a purely economic affair which was necessary due to the growing excess industrial capacity and need for markets to dump the excess products on to make a respectable profit. Western capitalism simply cannot function without access and control over those markets.

>> No.8135133

>>8135130
this guy gets it.

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>>8135074
What a cumskin brainlet. If you don't know shit about economics and politics fuck off.

>We will stop
You are not doing shit. Why do americans believe they are a union, when they defend selfishness and fight with each other?

>> No.8135143

>>8135137
>>8135129
Where are you from? I want to look up your living conditions for a hearty chuckle.

>> No.8135146

>>8135143
Because that's all that matters to you :')
Say hi to your granny for your annual visit while she's slowly dying on her own.

>> No.8135147

>>8135143
Stupid cumskin brainlet. It's what this wise man said.>>8135130
The "aid" is actually a manipulation of corporations on those countries.

If your corporations stop working on those countries USA is fucked up. That's how corporativism works. Fucking brainlets.

You can't even use a good argument.

Go back to your circlejerk containment board >>>/pol/

>> No.8135150

>>8135146
Yes living conditions happen to be important for beings that happen to be alive

>>8135147
Corporatism made us rich, you don't like it because you are at the not so rich end of the stick :)

So where are you guys from, too ashamed to answer?

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>>8134684
> poor people do not see or understand the causality, the cannot the difference between correlation and causation
>they cannot handle facts in a systematic way
>if you are poor you feel insecure and do not share your knowledge with anyone, nor talk openly about your research, this slows the development.

>be internationally acknowledged phd professor with detailed knowledge on [subject/field]
>get into financial trouble due to X, Y and Z
>instantly lose all rational and critical thinking
>can't tell the difference between corralation and causation anymore because lolpoor
>start selfishly hoarding knowledge because that's what poor people do
flawless logic
go get your pulitzer medal, OP
you earned it

>> No.8135155

>>8135150
good for you anon. Meanwhile we're happy and still make fun of you.

>> No.8135156

>>8135150
>you don't like it
I didn't said that you fuckface.

I'm probably in the same state as you.

Why don't you all learn some basic knowledge? It would be very alleviative if you all were trolling. But I know most of you keep your brain shut down, and just want to circle jerk about niggers and shit.

Fucking underages >>>/pol/

>> No.8135160

>>8135155
Whatever helps you with your shitty conditions anon, the poor always found pleasure and hating people who are better off.

>> No.8135162

>>8135154
>>if you are poor you feel insecure and do not share your knowledge with anyone, nor talk openly about your research, this slows the development.
kek

>All of that made up shit
I don't know why are you all proud of your skin colour if you can't even have critical thinking.

>> No.8135163

>>8135160
Another made up circlejerk assumption.

Am I on /sci/?

>> No.8135165

>>8135163
Oh now you care about stats, time to bring some facts to back up your previous assumptions shitposter

>> No.8135166

>>8135165
KEK
what are you talking about, brainlet.

>> No.8135172

>>8135165
he was not me.

I'm from morocco, peacefully spending time in switzerland before going back to m western-level living conditions while I have a superior culture.

>> No.8135174

>>8134684
you are a stupid little shit if you think real knowledge is given to you at schools.

holy shit OP you live in a fucking bubble, go outside and it see for youself you damm cunt.

your mothers basement is more confy just stay there kid.

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>>8134684
This>>8135174

>> No.8135435

>>8134684
>all these bullshit assumptions based on complete overwhelming ignorance

>> No.8135442

>>8135174
>muh real world knowledge
The people who sit around lashing out at universities and professors truly have issues they should try to work out.

>> No.8135452

>>8135442
you mean like too much money and actual knowledge issues?
damn you wish you had those, don't you.

>> No.8135453

>>8135452
Is it an inferiority issue? Do you want society to hail you as a genius? Surely not all intelligent people go to or have gone to school, but come on mate. You're taking this a little far.