Fields by Average IQ

[Anonymous No.8018384]

Can I complete an undergraduate degree in Computer Science if my IQ is ~110 ?

I'm shitting myself over this idea that I may be biologically incapable of grasping enough material no matter how much effort I put in. I'm freaking out because I originally enrolled in a masters physics course a few years ago before dropping out and finding it too hard to justify the amount of effort required.

How do I test myself to know whether I pass the intellectual requirements for this course? I've already been accepted but I don't want to drop out again. I'm fully committed with 100% effort but I'm scared that it might turn out that effort is not enough.

[Anonymous No.8018390]

See, even now I've fucked up the OP image. Should be pic related.

[Anonymous No.8018393]

Almost anyone can learn the material given enough time, exposure and help with the material.
Google growth mindset vs fixed mindset.
The problem here is that extra time, help, etc will require extra sweat, blood, tears, and money.

[Anonymous No.8018405]

>>8018390
According to the creator of this dataset, those are estimated IQ scores based on SAT scores.
As you previously posted, there's little meaningful pattern to the verbal scores, so that graph is primarily based on the quantitative portion.
So, it's just another way of restating the known finding that the more math-heavy a field is, the more male it will be.

[Anonymous No.8018407]

>>8018384
>undergraduate degree in Computer Science
You'll be fine as long as you do the reading and the course work.

[Anonymous No.8018411]

Here is one of Steve Hsu's papers looking into the SAT scores of Physics and Math students:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1011.0663.pdf
>We find evidence of a nonlinear threshold: below SAT-M score of roughly 600, the probability of success is very low.

This is the trap I do not want to get caught in. I'm interested if anybody else here has struggled with the idea of self doubt and not knowing whether you're smart enough and if so how to overcome that, if it is possible.

Also some demographic data in that paper saying what everybody already knows:

>Therefore, the average graduate school applicant in these fields likely scored well above 700 on SAT-M. At SAT-M score of 650, the ratio of white males to females is almost 2:1, the percentage ratio of white males to African-Americans is roughly 10:1, and the percentage ratio of Asian-Americans to white males is almost 2:1. These ratios become even more extreme at higher scores

>>8018407

I hope so, I completed one of those CS MOOCs it was Harvard's CS50 Introduction to Computer Science and while it came across as very very easy (I think they just wanted the course to succeed) I finished it without much trouble.

[Anonymous No.8018613]

>>8018411
>struggled with the idea of self doubt
Physics PhD here and I have thought about this, many times.

Of course, reading about the cheaters caught who reached high positions based on fraud is simply outrageous. The world of research has slowly become a dog-eat-dog world where the prize at the end of the road is ever diminishing.

Some strike back, from hidden bases of anonymity, like Clare Francis.

[sagee No.8018647]

Reminder to sage and report all IQ threads.

[Anonymous No.8020111]

IQ is only an excuse for lazy people to justify they failures in life.

[Anonymous No.8020138]

>>8018647
Because in the cultural marxist utopia everyone's IQ is above average anyway? What epitet do you have for those who "deny" this?

[Anonymous No.8020707]

>>8018384
Computer science is misleading because it is an umbrella term which includes both actual computer science, and also code monkey bullshit. If you can write a fizzbuzz you can get a BSc in CS, and with the right course choice you can get a 3.5+ GPA even if you're retarded. However, you need to be quite smart to take the good courses and actually do well in them.

[Anonymous No.8020711]

IQ is hella gay and I ain't a cuckold I getting dome this minute

Fuck biological cuckold determinism
Fuck hoes and sluts

[Anonymous No.8020717]

>>8018384

[Anonymous No.8020742]

>>8018384
>verbal iq

[Anonymous No.8020752]

>>8018384
FTFY

[Anonymous No.8020756]

>>8020752
So you're a girl then.

[Anonymous No.8020786]

>>8018390
I'm actually above my major's average lol

[Anonymous No.8020791]

>>8020756
?

[Anonymous No.8020841]

>>8018390
>people who study maths are good at solving tests that involve maths
cool study

[Anonymous No.8020857]

>>8020841
it really doesn't involve much math. It involves the ability to infer.
If anything, this is the opposite of math.

[Anonymous No.8020901]

>>8020857
>If anything, this is the opposite of math.
>"what number comes next?"
> 1 4 9 15 ..

pretty much what every IQ test consists of

[Anonymous No.8020941]

>>8020901
Wich is not math.

[Anonymous No.8020956]

>>8020941
are you saying that someone who doesnt care about maths at all has the same chances of figuring this out as someone who deals with numbers all day?

[Anonymous No.8020963]

>>8020956
Obviously not.
>15

[Anonymous No.8020968]

>>8020963
so why do people measure their intelligence based on IQ tests? especially in this case where we are taking math and physics students into account

[Anonymous No.8020974]

>>8020968
Because people are retarded. IQ tests were never meant to be used as intelligence tests as opposed to as a tool to detect retardation in children.

[Anonymous No.8020978]

>>8020974
if you have that view/opinion about IQ tests that im totally fine with your existence. atleast someone on sci agrees with me on this one.

[Anonymous No.8020995]

>>8018384
>>8020752
Someone, please use Fit[ ] on the data.

[Anonymous No.8021000]

>>8020901
> 22

[Anonymous No.8021001]

>>8018384
as someone with IQ 100 who completed an undergraduate degree in computer science, yes.

algorithm complexity and some linear algebra will probably be the hardest things to grasp but the rest is sort of pseudoscience.

i worked hard though so prepare for that.

[Anonymous No.8021021]

>>8020968
protip: mathematicians don't deal with numbers all day.
Accountants and shopkeepers do.

[Anonymous No.8021031]

>>8021021
really? that indian maths guy did

[Anonymous No.8021089]

>>8021021
i looked up what math students do. integral and calculus. Ive done calculus and integrals in school. it dealt with numbers all the fucking time. thanks to that i now know useless shit like sqrt(2.25) = 1.5 and sqrt(6.25) = 2.5.

[Anonymous No.8021094]

pure math god here

havent used a calculator for a class in 5 years

last time i had a number problem i was 19

[Anonymous No.8021095]

>>8021089
that's really not what math students do, that's what every stem student does in freshman year.

Math isn't about numbers, it's about structures and properties.

[Anonymous No.8021097]

>>8021089
>calculus and integrals

[Anonymous No.8021102]

>>8021094
god of pure math gods here
>last time i had a number problem i was 19
what does 19 mean?

[Anonymous No.8021109]

>>8021089
You need integrals to make some basic and purely numerical computations? Lol.

[Anonymous No.8021373]

>>8018384
>mfw male social work major

This actually bodes very well for me. Not only are males valued in my field, but my IQ is much higher than the average social worker. I'm already top of my master's class with a GA position paying for it. I'll be able to rise to the top and tear shit up in my profession with relative ease.

[Anonymous No.8021425]

>>8021094
Nah that's bullshit. I'm doing a PhD in math and occasionally have to deal with numbers as large as 2.

[Anonymous No.8021464]

>>8021373
>implying you can "tear shit up" as a social worker
holy shit you are one cringeworthy faggot

[Anonymous No.8021490]

>>8021464
4chan is for 13-25 year olds.
Reddit is for 22-35 year olds.
Very rarely are there any top level graduates online in forums anymore.
They jump to conclusions, straw man and contradict well known consensus-based concepts, and in some areas, they even reject axioms.

They don't seem to understand the importance of coherency or source.

In this case, anon straw mans and then refuses to point to a source, just dictating anons memory justifies anons emotional retort and denial.

Debate etiquette calls for references, which I posted, and logical arguments without presumptions, which I posted, but I doubt anyone will take LOGIC for what it's worth when people can try to rely on self-serving biases and interpretations.

[Anonymous No.8021522]

>>8018390
I'm pretty sure CS should be lower. I've met some really stupid people on this area.

[Anonymous No.8021528]

>>8021522
I'm pretty sure Mathematics should be lowest. I've met some really retarded people on[sic] this area.

[Anonymous No.8021562]

>>8018390
Is Chemistry and Biology closer to Health or Physics?

[Anonymous No.8021595]

>>8021562
Chemistry and biology typically have close to 50% male-female splits, so it's some of the points near the middle.

[Anonymous No.8021598]

>>8018390
40% female math majors? That must be including math education, it's nowhere near that high.

[Anonymous No.8021603]

>>8018384
IQ means nothing. Feynman tested at 121, which according to these bullshit models should have caused him to fail as a theoretical physicist.

[Anonymous No.8021611]

>>8021603
He did fail as a theoretical physicist

Feynman was a popsci charlatan, literally the black science man of the last generation. He contributed nothing to his field.

[Anonymous No.8021623]

>>8021611
>He did fail as a theoretical physicist
>He contributed nothing to his field.

You're a classic /sci/ snarky contrarian. Come back when you win a Nobel prize.

[Anonymous No.8021626]

>>8021623
Obama won a Nobel prize

[Anonymous No.8021628]

>>8021626
>Obama won a Nobel prize

Nobel prizes in science require you to actually make a significant contribution. The Nobel peace prize is given to plenty of people that actually create less peace.

[Anonymous No.8021669]

If youre dumb enough to think iq matters, then youre dumb enough to fail cs.

[Anonymous No.8022685]

>>8021522
This is caused by the wide variety of the field.
There some extremely easy electives where you basically learn nothing. But when it comes to electives such as complexity theory, you wont find many stupid people.

[Anonymous No.8022688]

>>8020995
I am as good a fitter as a computer. Although my cost function might be different.

[Anonymous No.8022693]

>>8021603
So... you haven't studied physics then?

[Anonymous No.8022698]

>>8020978
Hey, different anon here.

If you look at IQ and income, the two are correlated.

It would be interesting to see what that looks like when controlling for confounders, since perhaps math heavy fields pay more, and other such factors.