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If you claim to have free will, I'll ask you to explain how you make a decision.

If you can answer this question by telling me a decision making procedure/algorithm then your decision was deterministic and hence not free.

If you cannot explain how you made a decision, then you obviously had no control over it.

Does this disprove free will? I'm sure it does.

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7970196

Free willies have always been a meme bro. Go easy on them.

>> No.7970269

>>7970188
If we're deterministically fated to believe we have free will, doesn't that make talking about whether we have free will or not meaningless?

>> No.7970275

>>7970269
That means we are determined to talk about it

>> No.7970280

Stupid gorilla poster

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7970282

>>7970188

This bear was destined to be posted in this thread to BTFO gorilla posters

>> No.7970285

I make decisions by circumstance and need.
For example if I am thirsty, I will drink but I also have the option of not drinking and chance dying of dehydration.

Of course more complex decisions are affected by multiple factors over many years. Such as education and work or choosing a partner.

>> No.7970286

>>7970188
nuh uh ayn rand said i have free will and neil peart wrote ayn rand based lyrics, and since neil peart is the GOAT drummer he is therefore also the GOAT philosopher

QED

>> No.7970310

>>7970188
Define free will.

>> No.7970321

>>7970310
Ability to act outside of deterministic means

>> No.7970329

> I don't have the knowledge or means to measure something, therefore it doesn't exist!

Fucking casuals and their scientism. I bet you're an "atheist", too.

>> No.7970337

>>7970321
>The ability to choose without choosing...

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.7970346

>>7970337
and thats why by definition free willy donut exist :^)

>> No.7970420

>>7970346
Just because something can't be defined by language does not make it not real. Somethings language cannot describe.

>Wittgenstein