/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.7966569]

/sci/ how do you feel about kids that cheat in your classes?

I had a test today in my differential equations class. Long ass test. But its curved. And some kid in front of me was on his phone the whole time googling answers. fucking up the entire curve.

[Anonymous No.7966577]

curved grades are fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.7966591]

>>7966569
Damn bro. That's pretty shitty of him.

I don't like people that cheat, but in a weird way I feel bad for them. They had to resort to fraudulence in order to pass.

As much as I may pity them, I also clearly see that they're hurting themselves as well as doing a disservice to others. I've been offered to cheat in a few classes and I've always refused. No point in building success on top of lies. I'd rather fail on my own than succeed by another. But I also didn't attempt to expose anyone. Mostly because it would probably boil down to word vs word and it would only result in a headache.

I'd like to say is that their cheating eventually catches up to them and they get fucked, but sometimes liars prosper.

[Anonymous No.7966597]

>>7966569
>not telling the professor
>not getting his ass banned

There is nothing I hate more than a cheater. You should have told when you had the chance.

[Anonymous No.7966601]

>>7966569
How do I "feel"? No "kids" cheat on my classes, that doesn't happen in a serious uni.

If it does happen, call them out right then are there. If you're too much of a coward to do that then don't come here and whine.

[Anonymous No.7966609]

>>7966569
>calc II
>professor brings quiz
>has to step out for a moment to take a call
>some retard goes up to desk and takes a picture of the quiz
>asks anyone if they want it
>sends it to the everyone in his group and one other girl
>girl takes it to the professor
>professor takes it to the dean
>kid gets expelled
>he couldn't fucking believe that someone would do that and cried when he found out

I really don't get how you could be THAT stupid and be in university.

[Anonymous No.7966710]

>>7966597
I wasn't cheating Professor. Anon is telling lies.

Now what? Is he supposed to be a plagiarist warrior.

[Anonymous No.7966711]

I only cheat in gen ed classes. I'm not going to memorize 50 vocab words about music history.

[Anonymous No.7966715]

>>7966569
Was he Chinese?

[Anonymous No.7966718]

>>7966711
Bruh that's like the easiest thing to learn

[Anonymous No.7966722]

>>7966711
>Being this dumb

[Anonymous No.7966724]

>>7966569
Tell on the fucker. That is academic dishonesty. Seriously, stop fuckers like that.

Oncd had to do a paper with a fucking cheater. Fucker plagiarized his whole section.

[Anonymous No.7966725]

>>7966710
Are you in middle school?
That's the only explanation as to how you think it would go down like that

[Anonymous No.7966728]

>>7966569
I cheat on every homework and every lab.

But I get As on every test because I learn the concepts.

Am I a bad person?

[Anonymous No.7966729]

>>7966725
Why wouldn't it. If he's cheating he's prone to lie. Best you can do is monitor him.

I remember a TA caught two people cheating and it took two minutes of explanation before the Professor told them to leave.

What makes you think your word is better than his?

[Anonymous No.7966733]

>>7966729
>raise your hand
>tell the TA or professor dude in front of you has phone out and is cheating
>professor goes over to check
>sees him with the phone
>gets thrown out of the class

Wow so hard...

[Anonymous No.7966740]

>>7966718
>>7966722
is it really that bad if I do that? now I feel bad

[Anonymous No.7966743]

>>7966729
I have no doubt you're in middle school
Here, let me tell you how it happens in the adult world
>get up to quietly tell teacher
>everyone thinks you're asking a question
>teacher says alright and then begins to closely pay attention to the kid
>try to catch kid when he's off guard
Now for contrast, here's what your familiar with; how it's handled by socially stunted elementary schoolers
>anon the autistic raises his hand
>immediately shouts BRIAN CHEATING BRIAN CHEATING
>teacher is too drunk/tired to care
>half assedly ask if he's cheating
>Brian says no
>teacher goes back to drinking his Irish coffee

[Anonymous No.7966744]

If the students feel as if they need to cheat, the instructor is doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.7966758]

>>7966569
Excuse me, how the fuck would google help you in diff eq at all?

[Anonymous No.7966765]

>>7966740
Don't feel bad anon I cheat on everything I possibly can. On two separate occasions I've slept with less attractive TAs to get exams ahead of time. I've got a 3.65 in engineering.

[Anonymous No.7966767]

>>7966765
Is homosexuality really this prolific in engineering?

[Anonymous No.7966768]

>>7966765
oh ffs how is your GPA not higher if you're cheating? you could easily study and do better

[Anonymous No.7966770]

>>7966765
>he needs to cheat to get a 3.65
>a 3.65 in engineering
Jesus christ I feel sorry for you. I'm okay with you cheating, you need all the advantages you can get

[Anonymous No.7966775]

>>7966569
Couldn't care less. I'm in grad school though, so grades don't matter and my success is determined exclusively by the people who control the very expensive equipment.

[Anonymous No.7966778]

>>7966765
this is bait

[Anonymous No.7966779]

>>7966767
Nope, just ugly, desperate girls.
>>7966768
Totally, but I don't like to work that hard. What's that saying about working smart rather than working hard? One of them is more likely to be employed?

[Anonymous No.7966788]

>>7966779
Yeah, the one who pit in effort and got a 3.9 and worked hard to network/intern I'd the one who gets the job

[Anonymous No.7966792]

General rule: don't give a fuck. He'sjust cheating himself in the long run. Unless there's a curve, then you rat on that bitch.

[Anonymous No.7966795]

>>7966788
Are you implying I don't know how to network?

[Anonymous No.7966798]

>>7966795
Yes
If you're too stupid to get a high gpa with cheating you're too stupid to network

[Anonymous No.7966802]

>>7966798
Networking is the ultimate form of cheating. You literally just get jobs because you know the right people, similar to how I pass tests without studying because I knew the right people. I graduate in May and have had a job lined up since August which ultimately came from a part time job I took my freshman year.

[Anonymous No.7966813]

>>7966770
Sorry that you go to a second-rate school with grade inflation, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.7966829]

>>7966802
>>Networking is the ultimate form of cheating.
found the guy who has no network

[Anonymous No.7966834]

>>7966758
based wolfram familiar.

[Anonymous No.7966835]

>>7966569
> Be in High School
> Automotive Class (Simple as fuck paperwork)
> Do test
> Teacher says cheat sheets are a waste, because its super simple and the test kinda gives you the answers
> Bit of paper on student's lap drifts to the floor

Loudest impact of paper hitting the floor I ever heard.

[Anonymous No.7966905]

>>7966728
How the fuck you cheat in homeworks?

Everyone fucks with their results but you need to get serious if you want some undergrad research.

[Anonymous No.7966918]

>>7966743
I laughed

[Anonymous No.7966929]

>>7966743
nigga what kind of ghetto did you grow up in where middle school teachers came to work drunk

[Anonymous No.7966938]

>>7966715
Why even ask? It's always the slanty eyes that cheat in uni.

[Anonymous No.7966957]

>>7966929
The West

[Anonymous No.7967028]

>>7966770

>is unaware that his 4.0 is actually 2.7 in universities that take grade inflation seriously

How does it feel to be this thick? How do you not cheat honestly.

[Anonymous No.7967048]

>>7967028
Because i'm not a brainlet

[Anonymous No.7967051]

>taking a serious university exam in maths/physics
>wasting time googling answers

from my experience cheating in situation like that is completely useless, because you won't be able
to even attempt to solve half the amount of tasks when you need to look up stuff inbetween.

I had an exam in theoretical physics once and I prepared by working through some of the old exams the lecturer made available for everyone.
The questions weren't that hard but very laborious. The final exam was very similiar to the material I had studied so I just raced through the questions reconstructing most solutions from memory. Even though I worked fast and didn't waste any time I only managed to solve 80% of the exam. Since my answers were all correct and the rest of the class did abysmally bad I got a very good grade.

I know math lecturers that design their exams so that at least 75% off people fail the first time. You have 2 hours to solve the kind of questions, which took the teaching assistant 5 hours to figure out the sample solution. Cheating is impossible in cases like that.

[Anonymous No.7967053]

if you can cheat on an exam about differential equations by googlin, the exam was probably simple as fuck

[Anonymous No.7967058]

>>7967053
>https://www.wolframalpha.com/

[Anonymous No.7967086]

>>7966597
>i worked so hard for thid shit and this faggot cheats?!
>fuuuuuuuck i hate youuu!
This is the best example of the typical "ogre" erudite. He likes to suffer, and he throws his anxiety to other people.

[Anonymous No.7967091]

>>7967048
>chinktoon
>brainlet meme
How am I not surprised?
KEK

[Anonymous No.7967097]

>>7966743
I applaud your wit, anon.

[Anonymous No.7967099]

>>7967091
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Enjoy it daddy ;3

[Anonymous No.7967116]

>>7967099
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.7967121]

>>7967116
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[Anonymous No.7967126]

>>7966779
>just ugly, desperate girls
>girls
Yeah, ok

[Anonymous No.7967146]

>>7967121
>>>/a/
Go REP over there, faggot.

[Anonymous No.7967234]

>>7967146
What are you going to do daddy? Send your fags after me?

[Anonymous No.7967255]

>>7967234
>f/a/ggot calls someone "gay"
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.7967278]

>>7967255
>sorry anon-kun

[Anonymous No.7967370]

>>7967028
>>7966813
Spotted the sub 110 iq brainlets who don't belong in stem

[Anonymous No.7967380]

Kill all cheaters

[Anonymous No.7967415]

>>7967370
>sub 110 iq
Anon who has 112 iq and thinks he's superior detected, fucking brainlets when will they learn?

[Anonymous No.7967642]

>>7966829
This is a common issue I've seen from hiring people from naval academies and ivy league schools (and why I tend to stay away from it): they appear to think that working in the real world is just like school and that as long as they work really hard they'll be rewarded. Nothing could be further from the truth. The real world rewards results (tongue twister), regardless of how hard someone worked to get there provided they didn't cause any harm.

[Anonymous No.7967668]

>>7967370
Considering I've finished my bachelor a year ago and now Intel is paying me to do masters in their chosen subject I'm ok with being whatever you want me to be if that makes you feel a bit better about yourself junior.

[Anonymous No.7967698]

>>7967668

>studying what the company wants you to study instead of what you want to study

fucking cuck.

[Anonymous No.7967778]

>>7967698

>is interested in a field that a company would never value

It really makes me feel good about my humanity when I genuinely feel sorry for some one.

[Anonymous No.7967887]

>not cheating your way through life
Essentially, you're all pretending that honesty is worth jack shit in this world. Degrees are a formality and should be considered as such; whether you pass by cheating, by using money to pass or by actually studying for the subject makes absolutely no difference.

[Anonymous No.7967909]

>>7967887
the point is the degree isnt important: its about learning

if youre ok with being a useless fuck whos only good at lying its your own business

[Anonymous No.7967918]

>>7966577
No they're not. And if cheating actually became a problem the professor would be able to tell by the distribution.

[Anonymous No.7967933]

>>7967909
it's about learning, exactly, it's not about the exams, whether you've learned or not will show once you need to use what you're supposed to know, in the industry or the academy, I know people who have a better understanding of the material than I do, yet the consistently get a lower score, exams mean nothing,

[Anonymous No.7967947]

>>7967909
Learning? Is that what you keep telling yourself?

Seems pretty naive to me. You can have an excellent amount of knowledge in any given subject, unless you live in a third-world country, you won't get the job without the degree as a form of 'proof' that you actually have the knowledge. Even if you are blessed with a photographic memory, allowing you to memorize everything almost perfectly, you can not become a lawyer by simply knowing the law by heart, probably even knowing it better than 90% of lawyers out there.

The degree is, as I said before, a pure formality. Furthermore, degrees can even vary depending on the university you studied at. A degree at Oxford is considered more valuable than a degree in some other non-prestige university (even if it's the same subject). We, the western civilization, have succesfully established an educational system that encourages students to bypass the original purpose of education by temporarily memorizing certain concepts, theories and facts in order to mindlessly reproduce them in a test for the sole purpose of being able to prove that at some point in their lives, those students exactly understood those random accumulations of facts.

Yes, keep pretending education and degrees are actually promoting the seek for knowledge and the development of intelligence. It's your choice to believe in fairytales.

[Anonymous No.7967952]

>>7967933
then your exams just suck or youre taking a super shitty degree or maybe, just maybe, talking like you understand shit doesnt really mean much

[Anonymous No.7967960]

I paid a paper mill to do some of my writing assignments.

[Anonymous No.7967965]

>>7967952
The exams may suck, which is exactly the point, I've studied with these people and solved problems together, It's not hard to notice when someone has a firmer grasp of the material.

My degree is CompE in a top university, and the results were pretty much the same without correlation with the faculty that is in charge of the exam.

[Anonymous No.7967969]

>>7967960
I got payed to do programming assignments, it's a lucrative business.

[Anonymous No.7967984]

>>7967918
Yes, they are.

[Anonymous No.7967991]

>>7966569
I caught a kid cheating off me in CompSci.

Working in the lab on a big project, this kid who I'd already known was not a great student, asks me for advice how to fix some bug. So I go look at his code, and it's very clearly straight-up copy/pasted from an older copy of my work on the project. All the same variable names, same style, definitely my work.

As soon as I left the lab I turned that faggot in. No mercy.

[Anonymous No.7968386]

>>7966591
confirmed for not gonna make it in both academia and business

[Anonymous No.7968396]

I don't mind cheaters, they are doing what they think is best for them. I don't cheat, I don't think the risk is worth it, but I have 0 problems with people who do so.

[Anonymous No.7968429]

>>7967984
nuh uh

[Anonymous No.7968475]

>>7967969
Can agree. Mostly by chemical and mechanical engineers and, cmon, they don't really need to know how to create a linked list in C++

[Anonymous No.7968514]

>>7967778

You have drawn a factually false conclusion in order to divert, and to spare your own ego. As for you, the language remains yours, not mine.

[Anonymous No.7968524]

>>7966569
I don't get why Americans are obsessed with cheating.
In Russia, you risk getting thrown out if caught, but no one gives a shit from your peers.
If you report them, you're considered a fag and will never have a social life. Even profs will think you're a little bitch if you rat.

[Anonymous No.7968526]

>>7968524
That's how it works in high school, which leads me to think you aren't portraying university level russian education.

[Anonymous No.7968530]

>>7966601
>that doesn't happen in a serious uni.
How many Chinese students do you have?

[Anonymous No.7968535]

>>7968526
Think what you will, it's how it works.
Come to any Uni

[Anonymous No.7968538]

>>7968526
I would genuinely say that's how it is at my American university and we're in the top 50 but not top 15.

[Anonymous No.7968548]

>>7968396
Same here.

I'm top of my class and I'm friends with a few dudes who cheat

Cheaters don't make me insecure because I won't be competing with them for jobs anyways

[Anonymous No.7968606]

>>7966569
Always was at the top of the class so I didn't give a shit. Also, cheaters tend to get bad grades regardless.

>>7966577
And this.

[Anonymous No.7970161]

>>7967086
ogre erudite sounds really disgusting but interesting

[Anonymous No.7970166]

>curve

Well there's your problem

[Anonymous No.7970283]

>>7968530
This

I fucking hate the Chinese International students at my school