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if QM proves that reality is probabilistic, then why does 1 plus 1 always equal two?

doesn't that prove that absolute answers in math is not in line with the probability nature of reality?

Also physics and math are pretty disconnected from reality as well considering the solutions are ideal.

this is why pure math is fucking useless.

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7904806

>addition of natural numbers is a quantum phenomena

>> No.7904807

>>7904796
t. highschool dropout

>> No.7904824

im not sure if this is bait but do you really not understand the difference between numbers and electrons

>> No.7904828

well math is based upon axioms.. i. e assumptions.

mathematixs is a self contained language. the incompleteness theorem and the undefinability theorem essentially show this.

mathematics is just a semantically way to very precisely describe objects and events. we can do it with words as well, but math being such a logical system is easier and provides a better framework for us so far.

the clostes thing to math with words we have is law.

>> No.7904848

>>7904796
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here.
>Why does 1+1 always equal 2?
Mainly because addition isn't a quantum phenomenon. So lets rephrase your question slightly.

>Why does classical physics deterministic?
That's due to decoherence.

>> No.7904865

>>7904848
>Mainly because addition isn't a quantum phenomenon. So lets rephrase your question slightly.

https://quantiki.org/wiki/basic-concepts-quantum-computation

BTFO

>> No.7904892

>if QM proves that reality is probabilistic
QM "per se" is neither probabilistic nor deterministic. There are indeterministic interpretations (like the most consensual one: Copenhagenism) and deterministic interpretations (like Bohm interpretation).
Take a look at the thread I started some hours ago:
>>7904437

>> No.7904895

>>7904828
The closest thing we have to math is words

>> No.7904899

>>7904796
When you say "maths" you mean logic, since maths is just the lenguage.
That's why I'm pro determinism in QM, because logic tells us so