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Why shouldn't we kill off every person with an IQ lower than 120, /sci/?

>> No.7690582

>>7690575
same reason we shouldn't just inject sulphur into the atmosphere to fix global warming.

>> No.7690583

Because I have a physics Phd and have achieved more in my life than you have despite have 109 iq

>> No.7690590

>>7690575
>trying to find a way to justify killing himself

Look OP, just do it. No need for justifications...

>> No.7690595

>>7690583
>Because I have a physics Phd
Does that actually mean anything? I mean,
so someone with an IQ of 109 forced himself against all odds to get a physics Phd.
What's the likelyhood of you actually contributing anything valuable to your field when there are people with the same title but an IQ of 140-160?

>> No.7690598

>>7690590
>projecting

>> No.7690607

Because high-IQ aspies like you and I are just as great a burden on society as low-IQ normies.

>> No.7690623

Because then 120 would be the new 100.

>> No.7690625

>>7690623
And?

>> No.7690628

Because we need low-IQ people to do all the shitty jobs.

Like engineering.

>> No.7690634

>>7690628
>>7690575

A civlization with only dominant, high IQ people would collapse pretty quickly, like Cyprus in Brave New World.

>> No.7690648

>>7690634
>Engineer detected.

So sad.

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>>7690595

>implying the most intelligent people are the ones that make discoveries, not the curious
>implying people let IQ define their interests
>implying you didn't just get beat up by a couple of Chads and now you are bitching because you are a little mole of a person

How about contributing intellectually before shutting down others.

I hope you find peace in your life anon because you sound so sad and lonely right now.

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>>7690648

>child who doesn't know how the world works without mummy and daddy's help

And who pray tell is going to do the menial shit-kicker work in your great society?

>> No.7690663

>>7690575
because you would die

>> No.7690711

>>7690575
smart people are generally cowards and lazy

only the smart people that move beyond laziness are of value
dumb people with courage are of more value than lazy smart people

>> No.7690788

>>7690650
Are you serious, bro, because I wasn't even trying to sounds like a dick.
Of course you can do whatever you are interested in and makes you happy, but it's the smartest who push the boundaries of our understanding in physics.
No reason to stoop to mere ad hominems, friendo.
>not the curious
Lol, I'm pretty sure the smartest physicists are also curious

>> No.7690798

>>7690575
Because when you leave college, or enter graduate school, you realize that smarts aren't everything.

>> No.7690874

>>7690788
109 iq guy here, currently post doc doing research in a relatively large group. I doubt I'll become a professor but I'm having fun and I'm publishing and that's all that matters

>> No.7690878

>>7690583
You aren't gonna have any kids anyway so we don't even need to kill you off. What we should be doing is forcing everyone to work for a better society. Stupid brutes are needed at the foundation, its the people that are smart enough to control these brutes for their own personal gain that need to be killed off. All the smart, selfish egocentric assholes are leeching society. Basically anyone with an iq over 120 that truly believes that's an achievement should be killed.

>> No.7690879

Attempt it and see how well it goes. Now I'm not saying that things happen because they are the best possible way things can happen, but I am saying that the way things happen in the long run is a better metric of substantive value than IQ is.

>> No.7690890

>>7690575
>Implying some genetic traits don't make some subsets better than others at certain specific tasks.
Its like you goys hate science...

>> No.7690919

>>7690575
because everyone with an IQ of 120 now would then have an IQ of 80... since you dunno how IQ works, I wont waste a bullet on you, bucket of water will be more fun.

>> No.7690922

What if IQ is bullshit, and you're the dumbest for believing it and wanting to do actual things according to some short test. Are you fucking kidding me, broseph?

>> No.7690954

Because IQ is an inaccurate and unreliable test of cognitive ability and means nothing in terms of one's ability to contribute to society

>> No.7690966

>yfw 149 IQ but have ASD
Why does there always have to be a goddamn catch? I really can't socialize well and I am emotionally unstable (anxiety and psychosis). I also play with and touch random objects even at my age and I'll repeat something in my head whether physically or mentally for no reason. I was unfortunately diagnosed with it at 14 but was obvious enough when I could solve a puzzle before speaking my first word very monotone-like. What's worse is that I could never make actual friends throughout elementary school and was bullied relentlessly. My autism is so bad that I would consider myself barely high-functioning. Will there ever be a cure to free me from this madness? And I don't find myself to be a special snowflake rather I didn't make it well since both sides of my family has multiple mental defects of any kind.
>inb4 KILLSELF

>> No.7690974

This would kill literally everyone you retard

>> No.7690989

>>7690575
/pol/ lurker here, IQ 135.
Not everybody there is a raging naziboo stormfag, lads.

>> No.7691010

If we did this OP who would work at Burger King?

>> No.7691028
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>>7690575
That's a mighty /pol/ idea bro
>>>/pol/
>>>/pol/
>>>/pol/

>> No.7691086
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No one has ever given a shit about someone's IQ until after the fact.

Its always "Oh yeah and <insert famous person> is also a mensa member and has an IQ >9000


How about we just keeping doing what we've been doing and what this whole fractal-mess of a universe has been doing and keep on rolling bro.

Also what happens after your marijuana inspired brain-genocide? How many people would that leave? Are you all equal...of course you aren't.


"Burning out the dead brush" would only serve to reset a global min and max for intelligence. Local mins and maxes would quickly present themselves and depending on environmental, political, economic, and social factors.

And arguably having an IQ high above the norm has not been a favorable trait. The really genius shit that comes from those with the mental capacity also tends to come with psychological problems, usually some form of neurosis.

You would then have a world where the strongest, most attractive middle-intellects dominate sexual selection.

Revolutionary secondary sexual characteristics like creativity, empathy, and paternity, and INTELLIGENCE may no longer be as favorable with this new world.

Any "safe the world" idea that involves genocide is completely illogical unless its politically or ideologically driven and planned out for decades.

Also let me know how your army of table-top geniuses fares against the actual army of trained veterans who are combat-experienced and don't fit your magic number of 120.

Just another case of someone having absolutely no idea how natural selection actually works.

Kill everyone with the colored-eye gene and yes, you will get rid of people with colored eyes. The brain is not so simple as that.

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>>7690788

>Of course you can do whatever you are interested in and makes you happy, but it's the smartest who push the boundaries of our understanding in physics.

I'm not sure about that. Granted the smarties have a better understanding, but again, it's the curious that first ask the questions.

>No reason to stoop to mere ad hominems, friendo.

Yeah that comment I made was probably more for OP than you.

>Lol, I'm pretty sure the smartest physicists are also curious

You're probably right. I just think curiosity is more important than IQ.

>> No.7692025

>>7690878
I'm sorry but anyone who possesses power will abuse it and get corrupt
No need to make a boogeyman out of people with an ability you lack

>> No.7692085

You realize that IQ 100 is the average of population? So there will always be people with IQ<120.

>> No.7692088

>>7690648
>>7690648
which jobs are for smart people?

>> No.7692090

>>7690874
that post remembered me "will hunting"

>> No.7692101

>>7691028
Were all scientists supporters of eugenics in the last century /pol/, too?

>> No.7692116

>>7690575
Because then there will be nobody left to post retarded shit like this on 4chan

>> No.7692150

>>7690628
>>7690648
Did you just read Atlas Shrugged or something? You do realize that all these wonderful principles discovered by science don't just magically apply themselves in a way that's beneficial to humanity, right?

>> No.7692304

>>7692085
And? Who are the peope who keep coming back with that argument?
Do you expect the new 100 who were previously 120 to be as dumb as the previous 100?
No it means the average man is smarter now and what has been the previous genius IQ is now more likely to show up in the population.
To kill everyone below an IQ of 120 would happen every century perhaps.

>> No.7692312

>>7690575
Yesss my IQ is exactly 120, I made it past the event horizon of artificial selection.

>> No.7692343

>>7692116
/thread

>> No.7692740

I am a very stupid person with a question. How do I improve my intelligence? From what I gather here, intellegence is hard wired. I've gotten "promoted" at work and I have to deal with statistics and excel and data and all this shit and I finished highschool with no grades higher than a C (average in Britain). I'm struggling like hell and I don't have the mental endurance to deal with it. Just 3 hours into my shift I'm already baffled and have a headache. I want to use nootrpics or amphetamines, but I heard stuff like speed leaves you with a bad comedown, so it wouln't work for prolonged use. How do I improve my intelligence /sci/? Kepp in mind I'm 22, so I've jumped the boat for fast learning.

>> No.7692764

>>7692101
William Shockley != Every scientist in the last century

>> No.7692784

>>7692304
it should happen every generation.

>> No.7692812

>>7690575
You'd be a ditch digger. It needs to get done and since the new lowest denominator is 120, you get to do the blue collar work. Only those with an iq over 180 get to be scientists now. Congrats, you just fucked yourself.

>> No.7692839

>>7692784
That's too early. The population would shrink too fast.

>> No.7692951

>>7690575
nice try JIDF

>> No.7692979

I guess its just a troll thread but still, my mother and sister are both under 120 for sure so as I am from a normal family i wouldnt like them to be killed just because they are not as gifted as me, thats just retarded kek.
And please just stop that stupid "IM 198172 IQ DOIN QUANTUM FUCKING SHIT SO ALL OF U CAN SUCK" thats just silly

>> No.7693853

>>7690575
we need someone to cook our fries anon.

>> No.7693863

>>7690575
So you want to live in an only male society?

>> No.7693955

>>7692979
>i wouldnt like them to be killed just because they are not as gifted as me
That wouldn't be much of your choice if the Gestapo bursts through your door to take them away from you.
>>7693853
Humanoid robots.
>>7693863
Go to >>>/pol/ or >>>/r9k/ virgin.

>> No.7694011

The first non-sponsored test on google search says im 128. Where can I apply for my research grants?

>> No.7694026

>>7690575
There would be no one but me left on /sci/ then.

>> No.7694051

>>7690575
/pol/ here.
Actually agree, 99% of nigger would die. Only the best ones like The Black Science Guy would prevail.
But whatever, IQ is bullshit anyways, I come from a family with people wth very high IQ, and it's just hell. Everybody has a mental illness, but BAD prevails. And it doesn't mean you're smart, my aunt is proof of that. She's 155 an still, is a hippie esoteric bitch.

>> No.7694057

>>7690595
When people stops treating their IQ like the measures of their dicks then we might find some true contribution to the world in general.

>> No.7694113

Never took an IQ test, but damn it does not take a genius to see that "intellectuals" on sci love to show off their points to anons to "impress" them (aka, anon forgets they even had that conversation in a few hours)
sure IQ can be accurate, but there are alot of fucking stupid people with high IQ, so it leads you to question its authenticity.

So anons, take IQ tests with a grain of salt, we humans are nowhere close enough to measure our intelligence, hell, intelligence can be really fucking subjective like a physicist being an utter retard when it comes to engineering.

>> No.7694120

My IQ is higher than that, why not kill off anyone below 160? Who will clean the toilets?

>> No.7694471

>>7690575
>Why shouldn't we kill off every person with an IQ lower than 120, /sci/?
The Spartans practiced systematic eugenics. Can't say it worked, and a few thousand years later they still haven't figured out finance.

>>7690628
I use a Roomba to clean my house, not an engineer.

>>7691144
>it's the curious that first ask the questions
Nor is that sufficient. Otherwise the conspiracy nuts would be leading lights in tech. You need more like the patience to actually do the hard work.

>>7693853
>we need someone to cook our fries anon
No we don't. McD and others are hard working at designing robots that do it, cheaper, faster and more reliable. With self driving cars another million jobs or so will evaporate. Really a lot of jobs are now on the line so I see no need to reserve human resource segments as a fast food cook.

>> No.7694476

>>7690575
How would you accomplish this goal of yours. That is the true question, anon-kun.

>> No.7694495

>>7692740
You'll be fine if you actually give a shit.

Also, amphetmines kill neurons because of the excessive dopamine in your brain.

>> No.7694512

>>7690575
Because someone needs to shovel my shit.

>> No.7694521

>>7690575

Uh, we need somebody to the dirty work? That was easy.

Look, I get frustrated as hell having to be in the same places as low IQ simpletons (guys at the grocery store who hold up lines because they don't have enough money to pay for their stuff, or dealing with corporate drones who think they have 'skills' or 'talent' because they can make spreadsheets in Excel) but we do need them in society.

Plus, it's not like we 'earned' our high IQs we just won the genetic/social lottery. Idk why people forget that. You could just as easily have been born into some weird tribe in Africa and had an IQ of 30 living under horrible conditions.

>> No.7694529

>>7690966
Genius and madness walk hand in hand.

>> No.7694556

>>7690966

Take it in stride. Most people who are really intelligent like you, have a catch like that. Guys are able to "shoot the shit" and blow smoke up people's buttcheeks aren't people that have the capability of studying advanced mathematics.

Occasionally you'll have guys who are somehow great at both (Sal Khan) and those are the ones that go on to make the big bucks

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>>7690628
Kek

>> No.7694560

I love when /sjw/ raids /sci/ who try so hard not to look like /sjw/

>> No.7694565

>>7694559
It's not being edgy. That is actually a fact.

>> No.7694571

>>7694556
I think that I somehow managed to avoid being too fucked by that. I have an IQ of 145 and, though I still have social anxiety, I can actually function and I'm not actually autistic. The worst that I've ever had is mild depression that I didn't even need meds for. So, I guess I managed to get a lucky break in the genetic lottery.

>> No.7694573

>>7690575
We should kill them. We need less retards around here.

>> No.7694585

>>7690575
We need black people for the jails to profit and mexicans to do all the cleaning. I'm quite alright with low IQ people existing.

>> No.7694617

>>7690575
That would move the average up to, say, 125, and all of you dumb motherfuckers from 120 to 124 would need to be killed.

Rinse and repeat.

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OP is a Jew, you know.

>> No.7694740

>>7690575
Like everyone in this thread has said, you need them. It's physically impossible to maintain your standard of living by yourself; there just isn't enough time in the day and you don't have an unlimited lifespan, well at least for now. Even then though, its costly because you're giving up pleasure or productive time to fix a broken pipe filled with all kinds of gunk, for example.

You are certainly more than capable of doing these things by yourself given enough time, but its not the most ideal solution to do them yourself. You need retards to pick your food, deliver your water, install and maintain your plumbing, fix your house and garden, manufacture your monitor and your computer's components, maintain the telecommunications and electrical infrastructure...ohh yeah, and Japs to draw your hentai futa porn etc. You in turn will provide a valuable service to them like you know, thinking of better ways for them to do things or thinking up a new product that they might find interesting.

I'm guessing that your biggest gripe is that they vote. But that isn't a problem with them, since they should be represented, its that we've given an institution almost unlimited power in deciding how things should work when many lawmakers are not qualified to make decisions. That is completely fixable by adding a "All laws passed must be rational" clause in the Constitution.

>> No.7694772

>>7694740
>You need retards to pick your food, deliver your water, install and maintain your plumbing...

I'm imagining you keking to yourself while you have someone over at your house to fix your broken stuff, going "ha, fucking retard going at it again. Fucking brainlets kekeke"

>> No.7694821

>>7694772
Please I'm not that insecure about myself.

It's also stupid to assume that you know everything there is to know about a person just based on what they do as a profession; they could be there due to a multitude of reasons. In any case, regardless of his IQ score, I appreciate when the landscaping guy comes because I don't have to mow the lawn myself and I can keep shitposting on 4chan. He has my gratitude and my shekels for that.

>> No.7694841

>>7694772
> plumbers and maintnence guys are smarter than people working in corporate industry jobs.
Found the retard

>> No.7694852

>>7690575
Why shouldn't we kill off anyone who can't run a 11 minute mile?

>> No.7694856

>>7694852
you have very low standards

>> No.7694863

>>7694852
We didn't run to the moon tyrone...

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>>7690966
>IQ of 142
>full blown asperger's with every single twitch and stim you can imagine
>tfw

I avoided conscription because back then it was diagnosed as early stages of schizophrenia, but after few months of tests I was diagnosed with assburgers. It's not all bad, I have steady hands and I'm a pretty fast reader, but overall it makes me kinda sad because I could be one of those cool macho adventure scientists. Instead I'm "just like Sheldon xD xD".

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>>7691086
> marijuana inspired genocide
> stoned hippies wanting to kill anything, let alone billions of humans
son, you go full retard on me?

>> No.7694909

Manual labor. Also because it'd be unethical as fuck you fucking asshole.

>> No.7694921

>>7694898
>>7690966
Spend more time outside in nature and running.

Verdantry has an extremely soothing effect on the psyche. Also speaking TO animals can help transition into pleasant conversation with humans. Makes for a more congenial and natural approach with humans.

>> No.7694930

>>7694909
It's unethical to use animals or humans as test subjects as well but thats how we cure diseases.

>> No.7694934

>>7694898
>>7690966
Also meditate. It causes neurogenesis within areas responsible for empathy and communication. Yes it's difficult at first, but the benefits will outshine the struggle.

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Its morally and ethically wrong to end someones life based on attributes they were born with.

Plus IQ is somewhat subjective when determining someones "moral compass" or their value to society.

>> No.7694943

>>7694930
Quantum computing = fixing that. Or at least it will allow us to expediently formulate cures for diseases without biological testing.

>> No.7694944

>>7694939
>based on attributes they were born with.
Why?

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>>7694909
>unethical

>>7694939
morally and ethically wrong

>> No.7694948

>>7694943
Expeditiously* Sorreh

>> No.7694974

>>7690575
IQ test are only reason to idenitifying retards so it would make sense to kill all humans under 95 IQ instead. Afterwards the new human population can create a new method for scaling human inteligence that we can then use to cull all 120 IQ people. To all you guys that go on about manual labor I believe you forgot robots exist.

>> No.7694989

>>7694944
There is no choice involved.

Some individual is born differently than another. What gives either individual the right to kill either based on that information alone?

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>>7694841

When you're old enough to enter into the workforce you'll understand that job title doesn't indicate intelligence.

Donald Trump is a perfect example of that.

>> No.7695015

>>7695007
Donald Trump is smarter than furries like you. That's for sure.

>> No.7695018

>>7695007
I've had a job 3 years furfag

>> No.7695020

>>7694113
This

>> No.7695028

>>7694113
> but there are alot of fucking stupid people with high IQ
Where did you pull that "fact" out of ? Do you think people who score higher in their SAT exams or generally have higher GPAs do worse on IQ tests ? or do you think the results of your school exams also don't indicate any intelligence ?

>> No.7695399

>>7695018

And you're telling me you've never had problems with management or coordinators in your time in employment?

You've never question a decision by your higher-ups?

I didn't mean to be rude by the way. I assumed you were in uni or something by your apparent ignorance of industry.

But I guess assume makes an ass out of u & me.

I've worked in a couple of different industries and I can assure you, higher job titles don't necessitate higher intelligence.

>>7695015

>Donald Trump is smarter than furries like you. That's for sure.

Not a furfag. Just a reaction pic. Nice ad hominem though. Your statement is based in opinion not fact. You have little to no evidence to imply Mr. Trump being smarter. I on the other hand have evidence of the contrary;

>his foreign policy platform

>> No.7695435

>>7695399
>Your statement is based in opinion not fact.
Lol, so exactly the same as what you wrote.
And you're probably a furfag when you use a picture like that.

>> No.7695469

>>7694471
>The Spartans practiced systematic eugenics. Can't say it worked, and a few thousand years later they still haven't figured out finance.
KEK
>pay debnts

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>>7695435

>Lol, so exactly the same as what you wrote.

You obviously didn't read my post all the way through.

>And you're probably a furfag when you use a picture like that.

And you're probably an idiot when you use logic like that.

>> No.7695563

>>7690575

On the off chance that this is a serious question: Because the offspring of a population composed solely of 120+ IQ individuals will still display a normal bell curve distribution of intelligence and IQ scores.

IQ is linked to heredity, but geniuses can and do give birth to retards. The improvement to the overall IQ of the population is statistically very close to zero.

Eugenics is an appealing concept to unpleasant people, I know, but if you want to raise the IQ of a population you'd better direct your efforts towards ending poverty, malnutrition, and child abuse, and improving community infrastructure, education, and public health.

>> No.7695575

>>7695399
Oh god, people like you actually exist in a science board.

>You have little to no evidence to imply Mr. Trump being smarter. I on the other hand have evidence to the contrary

I can't wait to see your evidence so we can all laugh.

>> No.7695583

>>7690623
obviously abolish the relative scaling, so we can finally accurately compare IQs.

>> No.7695592

>>7695550
Now ironically ad hominem.
Cool post, kid.
I'm gonna let you find someone your own age to argue with.

>> No.7695598

>>7690575
gradual transition is the way to go

the real problem is democracy and social responsibility etc.
politcally the route is (hardline) libertarianism
i.e. people dont HAVE TO take responsibility for others problems.
also comes with a bunch of economic and scientific benefits from deregulation.

racerealist
https://www.youtube.com/user/AustralianRealist

also theres a thread with liber yt channel on 2*4 chan's /libertypol/

also check around wiki for these
ron paul
von mises
rothbard
maybe peter thiel for a tech angle.


and of course race related literature is 'the bell curve'

>> No.7695610

>>7690922
>>7690954
IQ is a measure for potential
other traits decide how much of that you will realize

more intelligence is in all cases >= less intelligence


>dumb jobs
>>7691010

1. robots mostly
2. worst case you give people drugs
3. fuck mcburger anyway

>> No.7695614

Because I'm a particle physicist and my IQ is 105.

>> No.7695622

>>7695598
>'the bell curve'

Wow.
You must be completely retarded

>> No.7695628

>>7691086
>Its always "Oh yeah and <insert famous person> is also a mensa member and has an IQ >9000
every single breakthrough innovation, science, tech or company wise, has been done by
1. a serious genius (newton et all)
2. a serious genius and a team of highly intelligent people
3. several genuises and a team of highly intelligent people

>How about we just keeping doing what we've been doing
sure go ahead and live a 100% meaningless life
you can find some stoning commie friends and you can live in your own dystopia
but stop dragging everyone else down

>Also what happens after your marijuana inspired brain-genocide? How many people would that leave? Are you all equal...of course you aren't.
nobody specified a time frame

>"Burning out the dead brush" would only serve to reset a global min and max for intelligence. Local mins and maxes would quickly present themselves and depending on environmental, political, economic, and social factors.
you missed the point. its not about adhering to some number. people below 115-120 orso cant form proper thoughts.
(guess how I know yours is below 115)

>And arguably having an IQ high above the norm has not been a favorable trait. The really genius shit that comes from those with the mental capacity also tends to come with psychological problems, usually some form of neurosis.
1. suddenly high IQ (120+) and really genius (genius: 140+) are the same thing
2. who cares if those people have OCD? such a drawback is well worth it
besides, we can easily filter it evolution style if it becomes a problem

>You would then have a world where the strongest, most attractive middle-intellects dominate sexual selection
how high are you?
if 0, then take your <90iq somewhere else faggot


>army of table-top geniuses
>Im getting my world view from TBBT

you are a wonderful example of the benefits of an undertaking like OP proposed

>> No.7695638

>>7694051
>Black Science Guy
his mother is puerto rican btw

>>7694113
>sure IQ can be accurate, but there are alot of fucking stupid people with high IQ, so it leads you to question its authenticity.
look, nobody said or claims that IQ is the direct and only link, or a measurement of (future) sucess.
IQ is a measure of potential. a prerequisite. thats that.

>> No.7695645

>>7695598
>https://www.youtube.com/user/AustralianRealist
Looks good. Gonna watch those videos. What they say about "racism" and a growing fear of intellectualism is very true.

>> No.7695651

>>7694909
>ive been indoctrinated to uphold arbitrary concepts and now react in programmed ways to certain statements
AND too stupid to realize it

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>>7690582
someone has to pick up the trash, and entertain those of us who are superior.

>> No.7695681

>>7695622
the book makes lots of good points, is well cited all throughout and contains a chapter dedicated to ethnicity-iq-correlation

your ressourceful comment may be slightly underfunded

>> No.7695727
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I can give you a very good reason.

No IQ test today can measure the genome of your past ancestors and future decedent's. You are putting faith on a test result that accounts for the individual without any analysis of if they simply drew the "short" straw in the family or if they are actually a part of a lineage of low IQ retards.

Truth is even if you killed off all sub 120 IQ people the remaining persons still have a very real chance of producing low IQ kids.

Most people who advocate for eugenics based on intelligence tend to forget these crucial points. Within every person's lineage were both smart and dumb people. They speak of a culling of the weak minded but forget the "taint" of idiocy runs hundreds of thousands of years "deep". Your eugenics crusade isn't going to get rid of that.

>> No.7695734

>>7690575
Uhg it's this shit again,
For the last time, IQ tests are nothing more than random bullshit tests that only some people can see a pattern in. Just because they can recognize certain abstract concepts easier does not necessarily make them any smarter. I've seen autistic 12 year olds get 180 scores.

>> No.7695762

>>7695592

>Now ironically ad hominem.

Actually I would say it was "tu quoque" as you made the first stab with your little furfag comment, but whatever

>Cool post, kid.

You must be so old because you said kid.

Looking at your post history I would almost guarantee I am older than you (30 y/o).

I would hope so anyway, otherwise I feel sorry for the people around you who have to deal with you.

>I'm gonna let you find someone your own age to argue with.

In other words, you don't have any arguments to stand on so you'll run away.

Each one of your post you have not given any evidence to suggest you are nothing less than a scatter-brain troll.

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>>7695575

>I can't wait to see your evidence so we can all laugh.

Read my post again, then yes, we can all laugh at how absurd his foreign policy is.

>> No.7695873

>>7690966
I can understand those feelings, at least I'm a QT and girls defend me from non-robot males

>> No.7695916

You know what? Fuck you. Us people with an IQ below 120 will inslave you. We will force you into torture camps where you suffer everyday until you come up with something new, every time you come up with something that can help humanity progress we won't beat you that day; hell, we might even give you some kibble for doing such a great job for your masters. If you try to resist, we will torture you until you end up like that faggot Stephen Hawking, except you won't get a wheel chair. If I could inslave one smartfag, it would have to be that Stephen Hawking, I just can't stand that fucktard's speak-&-spell. You smartfaggots have no idea what's coming to you. You'll probably be too busy jacking off to your advanced mathematics homework to realize that we are going to rise. We will destroy you.

>> No.7696556

>>7695734
Very true. Pattern recognition, spatial reasoning, logical inference and short-term memory have nothing to do with intelligence. Some people happen to be body smart or people smart.

>> No.7697052

>>7695762
Run out of animals you've fucked to use as reaction images, achmed?

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>>7696556
Intelligence means nothing.

>> No.7697076

>>7697071
Intelligence is a social construct.

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>>7697052
lol

>> No.7697236

Cannon fodder in the maths wars

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>>7697052

Not even even close. Stay mad you little strain of a person. I hope your daddy's dick wasn't too hard to swallow. But for an expert like you I'm sure you guzzled every last drop.

>> No.7697571

>>7697561
>I'm 30 guys, I sware.

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>>7697571

Well I lied a little, I'm 30 in February. 11th if you want to celebrate with me.

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>>7697571

>sware
>swear

Fix'd

I'm guessing you're not from an English speaking country so I will apologize for making a quip about you and your dad.

>> No.7697687

>>7690575
In 40 year, sure. The fact is, we couldn't sustainably live without these people yet. They do the dirty jobs that haven't reached mechanization yet. We need the miners and farmers still. we still need the taxi drivers and pilots. The daycare and retirement home staff. the grocery store and fastfood cashiers. We still do not have the technology to make these jobs 100% obsolete. Once they are, sure kill everyone else off for they're just a burden.

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>>7697687
>all this edge
You're trying to bait too hard here.

>> No.7697891

not reading thread, but we need charlies for the shit work

>> No.7698362

>>7695727
>You are putting faith on a test result that accounts for the individual without any analysis of if they simply drew the "short" straw in the family
Ahm.. So? You have the genes that are present in this low IQ individual right now and they are more likely to be passed on to his children than the genes of a high IQ family member of a previous generation. Pretty ironic that you talk about "putting faith in to something" in this case.
Also when we start with a program like this naturallly all IQ scores of every person will have to be archived, leaving no room to guessing in the first place.

>> No.7698366

>>7695916
*enslave

>> No.7698368

>>7697687
Agreed, we just need useful humanoid robots already.

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>>7690575
>tfw my IQ is 115
>Wonder if I should commit suicide

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>We should kill everyone with an IQ below 120

So, a majority /sci/ then?

>> No.7698416

>>7697687
>I'm a problem solver, so I'll be safe when the corporations come rounding people up for the gas chamber

>> No.7698440

>>7695675
is he dead???

>> No.7698624

>>7698416
I don't explicably mean people with a certain IQ but people with willpower and the ability to learn should have social support while other non desirables are similar to Epsilons.

>> No.7699480

>>7698366
inslave*

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>>7690575

>> No.7699596

>>7695628
this anon knows his shit.

>>7691086
>And arguably having an IQ high above the norm has not been a favorable trait. The really genius shit that comes from those with the mental capacity also tends to come with psychological problems, usually some form of neurosis.
So why exactly is this bad? Psychologists generally classify psychologies as abnormal based on the "norm" or most common set of characteristics among humans today. If the majority of the world population has "neurosis" (it's still completely false that >120 IQ implies this), then no one has neurosis, since everyone is essentially psychologically normal. I see absolutely no reason why a society filled with people who you call neurotic would function worse than our current ones.

>> No.7699614

>>7690575
>/pol/
>IQ is like smartness level!
There are plenty of retarded people with IQ's of over 300, that alone proves that it isn't a measurement of decision making capabilities. On top of that, there are plenty of politicians etc for example who probably have wondrously high IQ's that just have poor priorities and subsequently make bad or vain decisions because of it. The quality of civilization is less dependent on the rate at which the population can process and apply ideas (IQ) and far more dependent on the types of ideas available. You can draw accurate rapid fire conclusions all day long and still manage fuck your own shit up like nobody's business; if having a high IQ alone was enough to succeed, "stupid people" would already have been weeded out or at least reduced to a minority.

Low IQ is not the root of the worlds problems; information itself is the topic which needs to be looked into. Sure people with higher IQ can uncover information faster, but by-definition they're also the ones to more quickly build elaborate models off of falsehoods.

Furthermore, the whole human-rights thing ought to go without saying. IQ is no more a means of judging character than muscle is. Based off of the means by which it's measured, it's just the rate at which you can identify patterns and reapply them to an objective. It's just a form of power. It's not any different from physical power, aside from being significantly more useful and potentially less attractive. What matters isn't the power available, but rather the decisions made with it.

>> No.7699634

>>7699614
> IQ is no more a means of judging character than muscle is
Put in more blunt terms,
Low IQ is not a character flaw. Being smart doesnt make you a good person and being dumb doesnt make you a bad person.

Your insecurity about intelligence and academic achievement is pathetic, /sci/.
I once knew a kid in grade school who literally broke down in tears when he got a B on a test.
I wonder if he posts here, now.

>> No.7699640

>>7690575
Someone's got to clean the toilets.

>> No.7699896

>>7690661
>but who will be the engineers
He already said he wants to keep the retards alive.

>> No.7700880

>>7699634
>Low IQ is not a character flaw. Being smart doesnt make you a good person and being dumb doesnt make you a bad person.
No one said or implied this. Strange how you come up with the most arbitrary arguments.
Anyone who is in favor of killing people with low IQ has a different goal in mind.

>Your insecurity about intelligence and academic achievement is pathetic, /sci/.
From what I've read I'm pretty sure that's actually your insecurity.

>> No.7701862

>>7690575
Yes. We should start by killing everybody who visits this board.

>> No.7701896

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

The dark triad is a group of three personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy. Use of the term "dark" implies that these traits have malevolent qualities:

Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[9]
Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, a cynical disregard for morality, and a focus on self-interest and deception.[10]
Psychopathy is characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callousness, and remorselessness.[11]

All three traits have been associated with a callous-manipulative interpersonal style. A factor analysis carried out at the Glasgow Caledonian University found that among the big five personality traits, low agreeableness is the strongest correlate of the dark triad, while neuroticism and a lack of conscientiousness were associated with some of the dark triad members.

>> No.7701963

I would put the bar at circa 110.

We still need the intellectually inferior to accomplish simple and tedious tasks for us while we accomplish greater things.

>> No.7701974

>>7690575
because then all of the people that supported eugenics would be dead

>> No.7701987

>>7701963
>shitposting on an anime forum
>accomplishing great things
pick 1, then kill yourself

>> No.7702755

>>7690628

Guaranteed replies on /sci/: The post

>> No.7702782

>>7690575

>Less than 120 IQ poster detected.
Because of genetic diversity. There are unforeseen situations in the future where, as ironic as it might be, those people will have a genetic advantage in survival.

>Like getting laid, probably. :/

>> No.7702787

>>7690575
Because that's considered genocide and the plebians would be up in arms arms about it

>> No.7702793

>>7702787
>the plebians would be up in arms arms about it

that's how you know that the idea is good

>> No.7702824

>>7690575
Because we still need dumb people to do the crappy jobs.

>> No.7702847

>>7702824
Robots can do their jobs more efficiently your just being a sadistic savage getting off on the idea of having another human do a demeaning task based on their intellect.

Also kill of all the humans with IQs below 96 just to be safe.