>3.3 GPA >meh GRE scores Who else /gradschoolnever/ here? Can anyone attest to getting into a good school with lots of research experience and good letters of rec?

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Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:14:13 2015 No.7677955 [DELETED]

>3.3 GPA
>meh GRE scores

Who else /gradschoolnever/ here?

Can anyone attest to getting into a good school with lots of research experience and good letters of rec?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:17:01 2015 No.7677957 This is literally why studying Science is a meme.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:17:14 2015 No.7677958 >>7677955 You'll get in to grad school. Maybe not Harvard, but fuck ivy leauge honestly. Apply to a modest school and program and excel there, and above all do what you love.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:22:30 2015 No.7677963 >>7677955 What do you mean by meh gre scores?

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:36:45 2015 No.7677981
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>tfw sub 3.0 gpa b/c I didn't want to go to grad school when I was in undergrad
>worked for a year and realized I wanted to go to grad school
>now applying with shitty gpa and no research experience.
>Hoping against hope that my GRE scores and letters of rec will at least get my app looked at.

It could be worse OP

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:44:37 2015 No.7677990 >>7677955 why would you want to go to grad school

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:56:28 2015 No.7678001 >>7677963 70th percentile.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:01:24 2015 No.7678005 >>7677981 I'm rooting for ya, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:05:19 2015 No.7678010 >>7677955 >going to grad school It's like you hate money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:12:04 2015 No.7678014 >>7678005 Thanks bro. I appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:16:52 2015 No.7678021 950 pGRE checking in. OP, 70th percentile can get you into the University of California system, as long as you have research experience and goals. I'll certainly be applying, but so should you.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:40:32 2015 No.7678036

>>7677955
>went to college right after high school not knowing what I wanted to do at all
>failed multiple classes freshman year doing nursing because I hated it and never did anything
>switched to business for a bit, slightly better
>now doing computer science and loving it
>3.9 gpa in CS but 2.8 overall because of fucking nursing classes
>want to do CS/EE and maybe go to grad school but I'm already a junior this year and switching majors would add more years and money
>fml

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:16:55 2015 No.7678092

>>7677981
Same issue, but not as bad. I had a 3.6 or so in undergrad and will probably have a 3.9 in my MS. Hopefully undergrad grades won't ruin me too badly for a top school but it probably will because everyone has a 4.0, 990 PGRE, and 1st author publications.

In the US, it seems that you're screwed if you don't go to a top-ranked school as a theoretical physicist because the competition is so stiff for academic jobs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:25:35 2015 No.7678104 >>7677955 I'm pretty sure you can get in somewhere decent with research experience and letters of recommendation. Don't give up hope!

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:27:42 2015 No.7678108 >>7677981 Real talk I think you're actually fucked unless you worked in some position that built skills sort of relevant to your field of interest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 02:58:20 2015 No.7678148 >>7678092 >tfw chose engineering >tfw a 3.6 in engineering is really good >tfw any job I want

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:18:03 2015 No.7678224 >>7678036 Wouldn't changing degrees give you a new GPA only relating to that degree? Or did you goof and continue on with the same degree only with another major?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 08:08:44 2015 No.7678446 >>7678092 >3.6 Unless you went to a non-top-20 school, that's a great GPA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 08:53:20 2015 No.7678490 >>7678446 Didn't go to a top 20. I was just lazy towards the end of undergrad and got 2 C's in things.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 12:52:27 2015 No.7678896

>>7677958
This. Went to Rutgers and got a BS in CS (wish I had majored in something else, but that's another story), got a 3.0 GPA because as an undergrad I was unmotivated and more worried about playing drums in a rock band and chasing girls, and felt outright hostile towards school, especially math. My GRE scores were in the high 500's/low 600's.

Applied for MS in Quantitative Finance and somehow got in... I am sure it was luck, but I'm also sure the fact that it was the same school (and I also think being white might've helped, even if marginally) must have played a role. Also had almost 3 years of industry experience.

Don't give up, and don't dismiss your undergraduate school as a possible choice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 16:19:49 2015 No.7679329 >>7678490 I got 2 Cs in the first two years, hurts like a bitch.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 16:36:31 2015 No.7679365

>>7677955

I finished a super-senior year with a math major ; I'd spent about a year drinking and not going to class. When I finished the overall GPA was not quite 2.6, and the math-specific GPA was 3.ish.

Once I'd actually graduated (it was a fait accompli, like a week before commencement), "the class" and faculty gathered at a professor's house for chit chat and light refreshments. One of the professors, who actually knew the score about me (they all did, but this guy especially-he'd had me in classes where I did well and in another where I didn't show up) suggested that I go to grad school next. At that point in my life all I wanted to do was find work and save up some money, so I muttered something about just looking for work right now. He might have pressed it one or two more times, I forget the details. It's as likely as not that he was just being polite, but it was still encouraging. That professor died about six months ago.

The only real reason why I majored in math is because I like the subject and have some aptitude for it (3.-ish aptitude, but still). In the past year I've been re-visiting some subject matter. I've been told on multiple occasions that I'm good at explaining concepts. But no grad school for me.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 19:55:59 2015 No.7679809

>>7677955

>Can anyone attest to getting into a good school with lots of research experience and good letters of rec?

Yes, in biochemistry/biophysics.

3.0 GPA in undergrad, science GPA was around ~2.8 - 2.9. Took off three years to work as a lab tech. Started the first year with a few temp jobs in industry, ended up going back to academia. Had to jump around for another few months, ended up putting in a solid year of research with some high-profile collaborators (National Academy members). With 2+ years tech research experience (plus one year in undergrad), great letters of rec from big-name PIs, solid essays, 75th percentile quantitative GREs, got into a few Top-20 programs. Not quite Harvard, but prominent Big State Us (think UW-Madison, Washington, UNC-Chapel Hill, etc.).

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 19:58:51 2015 No.7679811 My Chem professor said his GPA was 2.8 when he got into grad school.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:00:40 2015 No.7679815

Continued from >>7679809

To be more clear, after I jumped from my first academic lab (funding issues), I settled-in at another lab at a big-name school with some famous faculty. There was an opening for a project that had me working with some labs and PIs who, in retrospect, I really had no business being in the same room as.

Also, I didn't apply to those schools I listed, but those are comparable to the schools that I was competitive at, highly-regarded programs in the top-10 or top-20 or so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:11:40 2015 No.7679833 >>7678896 No shit, I'm a Rutgers fag also. SEBS master race reporting in

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:21:45 2015 No.7679844

could be worse OP

>tfw low 3.something gpa in Information Systems
>went into undergrad cs with minimal math knowledge (75% 15 year old me not giving a fuck, 25% systemic failure in high school math education)
>barely passed pre-calc and calc by the skin of my teeth, decided at that point shooting my gpa in the foot/failure in calc 2, 3, and lineral algebra isnt worth tuition dollars
>switch to IS, three semesters of boring software dev classes to prepare us for code monkey jobs at massive financial firms
>take matters into own hands, get in professor's lab, write a paper and present at symposium
>like the idea of grad school but id have so many classes to catch up on that i might as well redo my bachelors
>not enough money to redo bachelors
>wont have time to redo bachelors once working because muh american 50hr work week/job=life work culture
>tfw all i want to do is participate in academic discourse and teach young undergrads the beauty of math/cs

please tell me it gets better

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:36:14 2015 No.7679858

>>7677955

>lots of research experience and good letters of rec

I got into a top 5 school for my field with those plus good grades. Grades are arguably the least important factor though, with the possible exception of GRE scores. Research experience, work experience, and strong rec letters trump GPA/GRE any day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:49:42 2015 No.7679871 how does one acquire research experience?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:52:27 2015 No.7679874 Whens the latest I can do GRE if I'm applying to grad schools?

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:57:02 2015 No.7679879
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>>7679871
At my uni it was as easy as going into a professor's office and asking if he was taking any undergraduate researchers.

I just wish I had asked 2 years ago instead of in my senior year. Don't be scared that you don't know enough yet to do anything, the sooner you start the better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 20:58:14 2015 No.7679880 >>7678001 >i scored better than 70% of everyone that took the test >i suck wah wah THIS meme has to stop

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:02:52 2015 No.7679887
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>>7679880
>tfw being "above average" doesn't even cut it anymore for most poeple

I remember when I first started taking hard classes in uni and getting butthurt about getting anything under a 90%.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:04:46 2015 No.7679889 >>7679874 Check application deadlines and schedules for GRE locations near you, dingus.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:10:05 2015 No.7679892

>>7677955
im in the exact same boat friend. similar gpa, similar test scores.

i have two years research experience though and i hear that counts a lot for chemistry. everyone says im going to get in somewhere as long as im not expecting top 20, i just cant believe it. this has caused me much stress over the past two months. ill be lucky if i get out without any gray hairs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:10:58 2015 No.7679895 >>7679879 my biggest fear is exactly that, not knowing that much... also not knowing what area to choose... i have like 2 in mind. you think talking to the professors is enough? my gpa is not the brightest, but im working on it now being on my 2nd year

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:13:06 2015 No.7679898 >>7679889 Yeah but can I do GRE say 1 week or less before deadline? Can the school instantly see that I've done it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:13:50 2015 No.7679899 >>7679887 time mellows us out friend. i was there once as well. i sit next to a guy in my chem class that is a year younger than me who got vocally pissed off at his 98% test grade. Oh the young.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:18:40 2015 No.7679902 >>7679898 I think you should get your shit together and wait until next cycle to apply.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:18:48 2015 No.7679903
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>>7679880
>>7679887
Globalization means that you're now competing for all of the resources in your own city. Why admit/hire some townie with a 3.5 when you've got Slumdog with a 4.0?
Kids are talking about getting amazing marks just to "earn" the right to be a part of some shitty company because that's where we are now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:26:27 2015 No.7679912 >>7679809 >>7679815 Were you getting paid at this time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:28:08 2015 No.7679913 >>7679902 never, why should i?

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:29:16 2015 No.7679915

>>7679895
I asked my research professor during my second semester of freshman year, when I had a GPA of 3.1.
Depending on the professor, it will vary as to how it will go. With my professor, he asked me a bunch of random questions to see how I would answer them (how much his phone weighs, how much energy it would take to move it to the 13th floor of a nearby building, how much that would cost given the energy equation / barrel price of oil, etc.)
It's worth talking to them no matter what, you may end up with a great supervisor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 21:34:45 2015 No.7679919 >>7679915 glad to know, i always had the idea that most professors were arrogant or just straight up not giving a shit. i'll try it in the near future, thanks anon(s)

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:02:36 2015 No.7679943

>>7677955
I recently graduated with a 2.7gpa in Biological Science. I was going to be a dentist, until I found out I hate medical shit, and would rather work in a lab. Did research for about 2-3 years undergrad and did cell culture/molecular biology and enjoyed that shit. I then found out about Bioinformatics and rather get a MS in that, and learn CS. I tried applying to Rutgers without a GRE and got rejected, so I'm falling back to my old college hoping I get in without doing the GRE. For whatever reason, I'm just really horrible with math word problems, I can't see myself doing good on the test.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:05:56 2015 No.7679945 GPA of 1.3

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:12:37 2015 No.7679952 >>7679913 It's your life man, if you think you can, do it. Just remember. GRE isn't cheap, neither is sending those scores.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:15:25 2015 No.7679957
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>>7679919
>i always had the idea that most professors were arrogant or just straight up not giving a shit.
I think it's a defense mechanism. Students in American Unis are immature. My last physics III exam (CC, so unweighted) got a 69% average. 5 students started debating and arguing over whether or not certain questions were fair.
Physics and Math are the only subjects where you have to 'think.' No one in college likes to be told that they're bad at thinking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:18:28 2015 No.7679962 >>7679957 >Physics and Math are the only subjects where you have to 'think.' bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:20:18 2015 No.7679965 >>7679952 I agree, but I don't see why I'm too late in applying this cycle

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:44:56 2015 No.7679994
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>>7679811
That gives me hope until I remember that he probably applied in the 90's or even earlier. Things have only gotten more competitive than ever before.

Gents, whatever happens, thanks for all the advice and help.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 22:54:23 2015 No.7680015

>>7677955
>Didn't give a fuck/directionless for 2 years of uni
>Shit grades. Like, nearly kicked out first year.
>Start taking more genetics and chem courses. Take botany.
>Fall in love with the subject. Literally cannot stop thinking about the applications of plant biology (specifically green algae), it's potential in genetics research, energy production, source of food etc. etc.
>Trying hard to keep 3.0 this year so I can apply for specialization (or if I am lucky, get >3.3 and enter Bachelors of science with Honors Plant Biology)
>see this thread
>I know that even if I got in my grades were/are shit and I wont be able to enter grad school and get the education I need for this. Cost of grad school is also hurting.
Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck. Do I just kill self?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:18:17 2015 No.7680040 >>7677955 I just got in with a 3.4 and 157v 154q 4e on gre. It's just a meh public university though. No research experience either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:40:28 2015 No.7680060 File: 52 KB, 500x419, 1397357299257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] im a junior undergrad and all this is scaring me i wont get into uc davis for grad school hold me /sci/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:41:07 2015 No.7680061 >>7677955 Do public schools care if you take the main GRE or one in your field of study?

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:43:41 2015 No.7680064

3.0 with one semester left I hear ya. I'm thinking to work for a bit and then try finding grad school after it looks like I have more experience. Who knows though.

Side question: anyone know whether real analysis or pde would be more useful to take last semester?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:55:39 2015 No.7680078 I swear my fellow freshman are gonna regret slacking off. basic physics test had class avg of 62... I literally did the homework and practice test and got a 103.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 23:55:41 2015 No.7680079 >>7677955 Is this your general GRE score or a subject test?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 00:05:57 2015 No.7680095 >>7679833 same here, SEBS major currently taking orgo with Boikess and phys with brahmia

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 00:19:55 2015 No.7680116 >>7680095 Brahmia was the shit. I don't think there is a better teacher than him let alone better physics professor. BTW what is Boikess making you listen to before lectures these days and do they still have that clicker?

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 00:48:59 2015 No.7680145

>>7680064

Math grad here who has already posted in the thread. Please be aware that my reply is biased (real analysis is one of the things that I failed by just plain not showing up during stupidity).

Later, I took an ODE course and did better than I had in a long time. But based upon persistent lurking of /sci/ (always with the grain of salt among teenagers) and my own hard experience, real analysis is probably the better capstone for a proper undergrad /pure mathematical/ education; PDEs specifically strikes me as a more "topics"/specialty thing which is more "nice to have" than some sort of analysis.

Depending on exactly what you're interested in (physics? CS?), PDEs might be the better choice for you. Personally it'd be real analysis (again), 100%.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 04:44:02 2015 No.7680399 >>7680015 No. Improvements between years looks good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 04:53:41 2015 No.7680408 >>7677958 This. I had shitty undergrad grades in a pretty good school, due to being somewhat overburdened. Now I am at a much smaller institution that still has a decent program and I am rocking the boat here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 10:38:14 2015 No.7680928 >>7677955 mfw 3.8 GPA, 170V/165Q GRE. mfw accepted to Georgetown PhD in Linguistics Honestly, I just want to show off guys :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 11:57:17 2015 No.7681044 >>7680408 post schools faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 12:01:13 2015 No.7681052 >>7680928 Congrats!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 12:10:58 2015 No.7681067 >>7680095 SEBS master race as well. Bioenvironmental engineering '15. I got an A on the final and a B in the class, I emailed Boikess about it and he threatened to drop my grade. Good times. Got Dr. O'connor a bottle of johnny walker black.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 12:11:04 2015 No.7681068 How are the GREs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 13:50:51 2015 No.7681218 >>7681068 What do you mean?

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 14:17:52 2015 No.7681283

>>7679912

Yes, I was. But, I lived with my parents after undergrad; they live in San Francisco, so I was very fortunate.

The industry jobs were temp, paid around $15 - $20/hr without benefits. (This was back in 2011 - 12, but I can't imagine salaries are much higher nowadays.) Also, I was in the market for smaller biotech firms or CROs. Just out of undergrad, I would be 2 - 3 years away from any sort of RA position in a mid-size start-up, and maybe 5 - 7+ from big pharma (Genentech, for example).

The academic jobs paid ~$35k - $38k, but that's in the University of California system. Tech jobs on the West Coast or Northeast will pay from the low- to high-30s, in more expensive areas. In the Midwest or South, they'll pay in the low- to mid-20s.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 14:23:13 2015 No.7681293

>spend 2 years studying for my degree
>general courses are over
>realize I hate my major
>spend another 2 years being depressed and doing nothing
>I now have to drop out
>no degree
>22
>have to start from scratch (yuropoor)

Fuck of with your first world problems desu lad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 14:27:27 2015 No.7681301 Why do you want to go to grad school?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 14:58:51 2015 No.7681352 >>7680399 You think so man? It's so incredibly disheartening to think how's did on intro classes can effect my life so much

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 15:31:42 2015 No.7681427 File: 85 KB, 555x450, 2499-2509.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7679903 not every one wants to hire a slum dog over a city kid with a 3.5, though but i agree, some will.

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Anonymous Wed Nov 25 15:42:48 2015 No.7681452

>>7677955

Is grad school for the masters or PhD? Either way, I'm not getting either. I'm just trying to transfer to a state school like CSU Long Beach or CP Pomona then get my computer engineering degree at the bachelor's level. Hopefully I can get a decent paying job and work there until I die. I'm 27 and don't really see myself getting a Master's degree. I'd be 35/36 by the time I finish my Masters. Plus, I don't know if state schools offer a masters program. I don't think UCs like UCLA would take a state school bachelors graduate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 15:44:53 2015 No.7681456 >>7680928 >Linguistics Literally throwing money away.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 15:55:14 2015 No.7681495 >>7681218 The test itself. I'm contemplating if I should take the regular GRE or a more specialized GRE.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 15:55:44 2015 No.7681497

>>7679887

Depends on their goals and how they want to live their lifestyle. If they inspire to work at some big hedge fund company making 200k-1M+ then yeah. For the rest, "above average" is good enough to make 70k a year which is enough to carry someone's basic needs for their lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:33:19 2015 No.7681846 >>7681067 Boikess is just so jaded. Thanks to you I regret not getting dr. O'Connor something. He was awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:36:10 2015 No.7681850 >4.0 GPA >transfer to new college >GPA started at 2.5 I got it back up to 3.7 after 2 semesters but what the fuck

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:43:29 2015 No.7681872

>>7680060
Always remember that you don't necessarily need to jump straight to a doctorate track. Getting a Masters at a lesser school with reasonable research opportunities (especially if you do more niche research) will give you a far greater competitive edge if your undergrad experience turns out unsatisfactory.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:48:54 2015 No.7681884

>>7677955
I can relate. And understand why picture is very related.

I have had a GPA of 3.56 and graduated with a degree in physics, but when I took the GRE I got 22 percentile.

But there's and explanation to this:
Everyone knows the GRE is an important standardized test. The ETS purposely makes it hard to finish so that they can get a good standard distribution.

But since they allow students to retake it as many times as they want (provided they pay the fee), people tend to restudy and retake it over and over again until they get a desired score.

In return, ETS makes their tests harder and hard. Thus an "IQ" arms race is born. It's not uncommon to see people fail the first time.

I'm going to retake my GRE general test this December 2nd and my subject test in April.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:52:26 2015 No.7681893 You guys will never be me. I graduated with a 2.0 GPA. I was unmotivated and directionless.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:57:13 2015 No.7681907

>>7681884
Also, I forgot to mention:

With regards to you're question:
If you want to get into a GOOD graduate program in the United States, you have to take the GRE. Otherwise, you can look at graduate school in Canada, UK, or Australia. I would recommend University of British Columbia.

Cambridge or Oxford you may get into if you have publications, but the financial aide is very convoluted in the UK.

Now the key is to get into a GOOD graduate program. There are programs here in the United States that allow you to waiver the GRE, but they're not worth the waiver....most of them are gimmicky 2-year online programs that are just a diluted form of a real graduate program. DO NOT APPLY TO THOSE.

I get excited when I see a program that is GRE-free in the United States, but I also get quite suspicious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:59:04 2015 No.7681910 >>7681893 Damn, it's the end of the road for you anon. Your only option is to start finding a career without graduate school.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 18:59:25 2015 No.7681912 >>7681907 Lots of Americans are going aboard for a masters or PhD. Its cheaper. Plus you can return with a graduate degree and international experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:00:54 2015 No.7681917 >>7681910 I am and its hard. I am going to go into the military. I fucked up once, and that's it. No one is giving me a second chance.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:08:14 2015 No.7681934

>>7681884
I think it's just you. Put some time and effort into actually studying for it. I put in somewhere between 30 to 40 hours on GRE prep and scored 90th percentile. It was a huge waste of time, but I only had to do it once.

Now, your theory is wrong because not only do the scores average out to 150 (on the 170 scale) per section with very little variation between years, but one section of the test, the experimental section, is designed to make sure that one year's test is not more difficult or easier than a previous year's.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:09:30 2015 No.7681942 How did you lot do on the ACT? I got a 30 in high school and I'm considering retaking it

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:15:52 2015 No.7681963 >>7679871 Talk with any of your professors that does research in a topic your interested in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:19:10 2015 No.7681970 >>7678001 That sucks. You should be kill

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:20:42 2015 No.7681976 >>7680040 Not bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:22:10 2015 No.7681979 >>7680061 Most of them do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:26:20 2015 No.7681992 >>7681893 I was you, then changed majors and took another 3 years to graduate college and ended up with 3.2 or so GPA in major was 3.8 or something which got me into grad school.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:32:05 2015 No.7682002

>>7681934
Well maybe you're an and exceptionally intelligent person, and I do not dough that exceptionally intelligent people exist.

And you're definitely right about the tests not getting any more difficult. I forgot about the experimental section that was mentioned.

But I'm still not convinced that there's a contribution to to the average drifting to to higher raw scores because of retakes. This will draw average raw score up, because retakes will be populating higher raw scores, thus giving them more weight.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:35:54 2015 No.7682007

>>7681992
Well I didn't do that, so my record shows 2.0. I can never change that. So graduate school will forever be out of hte picture. I'm having a hard time finding a job as it is with a college degree. I'm not even picky. I wasted my time in college. I didn't help me one bit. Its my own damn fault.

Anonymous Wed Nov 25 19:39:05 2015 No.7682013

>>7681452
I'm sorry dude these are just some silly questions. Not all the Cal States have masters programs (or they'll just be in something like education), but plenty of low tier schools have masters programs that people get all the time.

I'm not saying it's prestigious or you'll be rolling in money but a lot of community college professors have masters from a cal state, and most definitely can you get into a UC grad school program from a cal state bachelors. It is not uncommon at all to see people make a big step up from bachelors to grad. Like people are saying, if you do some research and endear yourself to professors through tenacity and actually giving a fuck, you have a good chance.

It's also not uncommon for people to stop giving a fuck about prestige later in life and go to some bumfuck school because there are professors there researching their specific topic of interest and that means more to them than the name. (not saying I'm one of those people, it's prestige over all I'm just trying to impress people let's be honest).

Not even saying you should try grad stuff, do your thing man, but it's not like it's not an option

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 20:28:37 2015 No.7682101 >>7682013 Kansas State is home to one of the world renowned experts on Russian politics/military. Grad school is about the professor not the school. This is teh advise you get in college from professors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 21:23:56 2015 No.7682192 I have about 3 papers after a little work experience in a lab after graduating that is pretty crazy to me still dunno if grad school is for me though

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 22:09:41 2015 No.7682260 File: 58 KB, 626x625, rigby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm currently writing my essays for my grad school apps. Any general words of advice on what to say and what not to say?.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 23:41:58 2015 No.7682394 >>7681452 You're going to be 35/36 anyway, why not have a masters too?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 23:47:32 2015 No.7682403 >>7677955 >go to a top school >second in level >no research experience >no work experience >don't know what to do with life just kill me honestly

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 00:01:12 2015 No.7682433 >>7681942 I got a 35. learn to manage time and the test is easy as he'll. don't read the science sections just graze over it and go straight to the questions. source is my 36 in science

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 01:41:27 2015 No.7682555 Quick question about graduate school: in general, do your letters of rec writers have to write out a whole new letter for each school you apply to? That seems tedious as fuck but otherwise how is it known you didn't just forge it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 02:02:01 2015 No.7682585 >>7682555 i dont know man, but generally you cant forge since most letters of rec are submitted online by the professor. he/she will get an email with a link to submit his letter and done

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 02:03:03 2015 No.7682586 >>7681452 dude i go to CP pomona ask me anything

Anonymous Thu Nov 26 02:11:48 2015 No.7682597

I have a 2.7 in Comp Eng and I have had 3 internships, most recent $34 an hour. Senior now.

Company I work with is also flying me out to their Euro country to get masters, heavily subsidized of course.

If you guys prioritize money, masters degrees are rarely more lucrative, especially in already demand fields. I would lose about $110,000 in opportunity cost if I got mine, for maybe 10-15k pay jump.
If you're still young in your major, apply to internships as your number 1 priority. It can be played as a numbers game. They will be more important than any class or GPA you will have. Go to your career fairs and show them you're smart.

Your value will increase exponentially with every internship on your resume. Show them that you can do the job and meet their bar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 02:14:47 2015 No.7682600 >>7681497 that's for deadwage keks who can't start their own shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 05:15:22 2015 No.7682774 >>7682260 Be unique and you can, while at the same time not kissing up any particular trait or otherwise being generic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 05:20:43 2015 No.7682776 File: 5 KB, 225x225, 1898298398399.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7682597 HOW THE FUCK DO I GET AN INTERNSHIP REEEEE

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 06:10:38 2015 No.7682840 >>7682597 >>7682776 That's a good point. How the fuck did you get an internship with a sub 3.0 gpa?

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