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Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:40:33 2015 No.7605107 [Reply] [Original]

How do I keep myself healthy against police radiation in freedumb land?

>The NYPD Is Using Mobile X-Ray Vans to Spy on Unknown Targets

>New York City won’t reveal hotw often cops bombard places, vehicles, or people with radiation—or if there are health risks for residents.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/the-nypd-is-using-mobile-x-rays-to-spy-on-unknown-targets/411181/?single_page=true

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:41:51 2015 No.7605109 >>7605107 Not more of this, we already have GMOs in another thread, please just go and take your fear-mongering with you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:43:54 2015 No.7605113 >>7605109 > pushing GMO crap in every thread can you fuck off already. this isn't your shilling site.

Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:45:44 2015 No.7605122

>>7605109
>fear-mongering
Call it what you will, but the Atlantic is a relatively respectable news source, so it's hard to read your post as anything other than a desperate attempt to put your hands over your ears and hiding from an uncomfortable truth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:46:30 2015 No.7605123 >live at central park >live on 26th floor >lol come get me cops with ur xray

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:46:56 2015 No.7605127 >>7605113 im asking pretty nicely, take your fear mongering somewhere else please

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:47:44 2015 No.7605129 >>7605122 please go back to your containment board >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:47:59 2015 No.7605130 Why do the police have a weapon like that in their disposal in the first place ? What kind of right do they have to carry that kinda stuff ?

Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:49:06 2015 No.7605131

>>7605127
>fear-mongering
Implicit in that word is the conclusion that I am wrong, which you have yet to demonstrate. I won't just take my "fear-mongering" else where. I will cease it entirely and fight against other "fear-mongerers" if you can convince me that my concerns are illegitimate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:49:16 2015 No.7605133 >>7605130 >>7605122 >>7605107 >samefagging this hard >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:50:23 2015 No.7605136 >>7605107 Buy a radiation detector online.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:50:59 2015 No.7605139 File: 32 KB, 500x587, tumblr_ma9pe9QUUf1ru44ono1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7605131 pic related >>7605136 make that a Geiger counter and some lead buckshot

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:51:40 2015 No.7605142
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> Anything that my ignorant ass isn't aware of is fearmongering
Ignore these retards who think they're experts. I knew the military built mountable ones for security purposes but I didn't know they were roaming around the city. The best thing you can do is to get petition to cease it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:51:57 2015 No.7605143 >>7605131 you will not be convinced, you have decided not to be convinced when you came here. please go somewhere else.

Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:52:15 2015 No.7605145

>>7605129
>please go back to your containment board
I like how you have absolutely no refutation. You simply hear something that makes you uncomfortable and you simply go "lol paranoia. goto /x/".

That's not a refutation. That's a petty dismisal. And your failure to respond to the subject is indicative of a legitimacy your afraid to recognize.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:53:01 2015 No.7605147 >>7605142 >>>/x/

>>	Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:53:17 2015 No.7605150 >>7605139 >LOL MOM I POSTED THE EBEN FEDORA MAYMAY AGAIN.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:53:48 2015 No.7605152 >>7605107 More importantly, how do you build one for yourself?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:54:03 2015 No.7605154 >>7605145 your refusal to be convinced is not proof you're right. everyone has realized you will not be convinced. >>>/x/

>>	Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:54:25 2015 No.7605158 >>7605143 >you will not be convinced, you have decided not to be convinced when you came here. please go somewhere else. Translation: I've got no evidence against this whatsoever. You're probably right, but you're making me uncomfortable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:55:39 2015 No.7605164 >>7605147 >>7605154 You don't even have any idea on the subject. Why do you keep spamming the same shit like its paranormal or something ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:56:27 2015 No.7605166 >>7605158 >>>/x/

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:57:10 2015 No.7605169
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>>7605145
>>7605142
>>7605158

all you have to do to know you're being spied on is a fucking greiger counter and to prevent it, fill your walls with lead buckshot you fucking fear monger.

pic related, get the fuck out of >>>/sci/ if you have no idea what the circuit makes

>>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:57:28 2015 No.7605170 >>7605164 >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:57:39 2015 No.7605172 >>7605166 Report this retard for spamming and flooding. Spam it a bit more so you get a decent long ban.

Anonynous Wed Oct 21 02:58:38 2015 No.7605175

>>7605154
>your refusal to be convinced is not proof you're right. everyone has realized you will not be convinced.
You have made no attempt to convince whatsoever. Am I supposed to look at all these "lol /x/" posts and that "lol fedora" post and think to myself, "wow, these people have seriously read and considered the subject matter of the article and come to the conclusion that this news source is for any reason uncredible?

I don't like living in fear. If you have some study or evidence that the article is written by disreputable phonies, I'd be happy to hear that and continue my day much more calmly, but since you it's seems you have nothing to say other than I'm full of shit... because... well.... just because, than I apologize if it takes something more to assuage my concerns.
Also
>inb4 another eben fedora picture

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:58:48 2015 No.7605176 >>7605172 >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 02:58:48 2015 No.7605177 >>7605169 > microwaves don't exist > police doesn't exist > that picture is fake found the shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:00:33 2015 No.7605178 >>7605177 what kind shitty of bolice would fire microwaves into your house

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:00:45 2015 No.7605181

>>7605175
we had tons of thread about this already, we're sick and tired of it. if you find evidence to support your concerns in peer-reviewed journals people here will be happy to look at it and point if your concerns are well-founded or if they're due to misunderstanding statistical significance or other glaring mistakes in the article.

otherwise, if all your "evidence" comes from mainstream news, I'm afraid
>>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:02:44 2015 No.7605185 >>7605177 >police firing microwaves into houses kek'd heartily

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:03:07 2015 No.7605186 >>7605107 Oh shit. They've been doing this for some time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ2YW7-4Gbw

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:06:02 2015 No.7605191 >>7605186 >>7605175 >>7605177 >>7605150 >>7605158 >>7605145 >>7605142 >>7605131 >>7605122 >>7605107 >>7605130 my samefag detector is going off the charts

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:06:37 2015 No.7605192 >>7605185 > people "firing" microwaves into the foods they eat lol so ridiculous >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:07:43 2015 No.7605193 >>7605192 >2015 >not knowning what the screen on the microwave does

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:07:53 2015 No.7605195 >>7605191 see : >>7605186 and less spamming please

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:07:54 2015 No.7605196 >>7605192 >microwaves radiate my food and make it cancerous! >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:07:56 2015 No.7605197 >>7605192 holy shit just shut the fuck up and stop feeding them attention

Anonynous Wed Oct 21 03:08:47 2015 No.7605200
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>>7605191
>my samefag detector is going off the charts
It's not samefagging if each of those posts is a reply to a different comment, you fucking mong. By that definition anyone posting more than once in a given thread for any reason is a samefag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:09:06 2015 No.7605202 >>7605195 no one wants to see your stupid ass video from meme news sources, fucking samefag >>7605186 >>7605175 >>7605177 >>7605150 >>7605158 >>7605145 >>7605142 >>7605131 >>7605122 >>7605107 (OP) >>7605130 S A M E F A G G O T

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:09:07 2015 No.7605203 >>7605185 Besides the fact that x-rays aren't microwaves. It's always funny when people don't know anything about something, yet scoff it off as being a paranoid delusion, while it is actually the reality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:09:15 2015 No.7605204 File: 59 KB, 280x280, never go full retard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7605196 Yeah they don't. So it's perfectly safe to use it on humans right ?

>>	Anonynous Wed Oct 21 03:10:39 2015 No.7605209 >>7605202 >S A M E F A G G O T see >>7605200

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:11:23 2015 No.7605212 >>7605186 Using Xrays in any capacity in the public should be illegal. But since it's america...

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:11:44 2015 No.7605213 >>7605204 Yeah I always go into my giant microwave to take government-issued microwave baths, dont you?

>>	Anonynous Wed Oct 21 03:14:16 2015 No.7605218 >>7605107 >How do I keep myself healthy against police radiation in freedumb land? By purchasing a passport

>>	Anonynous Wed Oct 21 03:16:20 2015 No.7605222 >>7605139 >Geiger counter and some lead buckshot If the buckshot is strong enough to withstand the current intensity X-ray waves, won't they just increase the intensity of the X-ray waves?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:17:38 2015 No.7605226 >>7605222 >not knowing lead adsorbs radiation and turns it into heat

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:19:21 2015 No.7605227 >>7605213 > Thinks xray devices are huge > government uses microwaves Typical "expert" here. You sure enlightened everyone with your wisdom

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:20:34 2015 No.7605229 >>7605227 >sarcasm

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:21:43 2015 No.7605230 >>7605227 You're really dense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:28:06 2015 No.7605247 >>7605230 >>7605229 wow, the "experts" have spoken. >>7605175 They probably take some measures to keep the radiation effects to minimum but yeah, no measure can guarantee the safety of pregnant women and their babies

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:31:06 2015 No.7605256 >>7605247 >high intensity X-Rays that can penetrate metal >minimal radiation effects

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:31:52 2015 No.7605259 >>7605247 >wow, the "experts" have spoken. >They probably take some measures to keep the radiation effects to minimum but yeah, no measure can guarantee the safety of pregnant women and their babies what is self awareness

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:37:29 2015 No.7605269 >>7605256 Vehicle chassis are made from very thin compositions of carbon steels and alloys. You don't need too much intensity to see through an average car. It's probably not lethal. >>7605259 > answering questions with questions

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:38:36 2015 No.7605275 >>7605269 RIP DNA, HELLO CANCER AND RADIATION POISONING

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:43:42 2015 No.7605284

How do these scanners work?

My understanding of X-ray photography is that you place an object to be scanned between an x-ray source and an X-ray sensitive photographic (?) plate.

Do they cruise round the city in a scanner convoy? One vehicle emitting X-rays, the other strategically placed on the other side of the unwitting subject somehow carrying a gigantic X-ray sensor?

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 03:51:54 2015 No.7605302

>>7605284
Those plates are only used for quick exposure films so that your xray can be documented on film and doctors can see it under different lighting conditions. They don't use machines because they write the data to pixels which limit the resolution. Films don't really have any resolution.

These mobile police scanners work like ultrasounds, which work like sonars. They emit waves at a certain frequencey and their scanner reads the waves that echo back. The xrays used in pregnancies use a very low intensity because it only needs to penetrate a slice of meat. The ones that has to go through concrete or metal on the other hand are very likely to fuck you up.

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 04:14:55 2015 No.7605340

>>7605302
And the tools they use aren't documented on video, I presume?

I thought about using wifi or other types of signals to look through walls. You know the scanner used in Alien? Just something crude that would detect motion would be fun to have. Check if your neighbor is home or not ...

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 04:23:48 2015 No.7605348 >>7605302 So essentially working on X-ray reflection. I guess the intensity and energy of reflected rays give you an idea as to the composition of the object doing the reflection. Sounds legit. Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 04:55:21 2015 No.7605381 >>7605107 Don't live in cities. They're bad.

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 04:58:56 2015 No.7605386

>>7605302
>They don't use machines because they write the data to pixels which limit the resolution.

Modern xrays use digital sensors.

> Films don't really have any resolution.
They have a grain size and the resolution is also determined by the quality of light and optics in general.

from wikipedia
>A 36 mm x 24 mm frame of ISO 100-speed film was initially estimated to contain the equivalent of 20 million pixels,[6] although this estimate was later revised to between 4 and 16 million pixels depending on the type of film used.[7]

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 05:16:06 2015 No.7605398

>>7605340
>Check if your neighbor is home or not ...
You can triangulate the position of any device with wifi turned on and cross reference its mac adress to identify the owner of it.

All this with off the shelf hardware, which means that a small private organisation could create a tracking system that covers a small city with checkpoints that register the populations movements for just a few thousand dollars.

With the budget and hardware access of the NSA instead? Well I'm pretty certain that there's a system that contains almost-realtime position and history of any cell phone.

And given the existence of stingray devices you can either deploy at a moments notice one to tap the data or one is already close enough to just access the data with a single click.

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 05:58:14 2015 No.7605433

>>7605398
I know you can triangulate the position of senders. I've wanted to get equipment to see where amateur radio signals come from and such. This time though I was talking about locating anything without a sender that moves nearby.

What do you mean by cross referencing the mac address?

Monitoring cell phones is easy, yeah. It's being done all the time. You can request saved data from your operator, I did once, and they sent me a bunch of paper showing every phone call, text, which cell tower was being used and so forth, there are a lot of them and they will tell you where you are approximately just by that alone. Some carriers may track you more accurately and store the information.

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 06:28:00 2015 No.7605460

>>7605433
>What do you mean by cross referencing the mac address?

If you triangulate just a wifi signal you can't differentiate who just got up from the TV sofa to go to the bathroom, one of the signals just moved and it could be a guest, or a permanent inhabitant of the apartment.

A MAC adress on the other hand is device specific over the long term, so you'd know the mac adress that spends the most time in the apartment is living there those that are new are guests. And if you see the mac adres leaves and go out in person to check who it is you'll know the device belongs to said person and can then use that in the future to correlate it with him/her, or someone carrying his device.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 06:57:20 2015 No.7605481 >>7605460 Ah, so that's what you mean. What if it's encrypted, like most are nowadays, (unlike they were before...) Is the mac address encrypted too on a wireless network? I forget.

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 07:23:40 2015 No.7605516

>>7605386
from wikipedia
>A 36 mm x 24 mm frame of ISO 100-speed film was initially estimated to contain the equivalent of 20 million pixels,[6] although this estimate was later revised to between 4 and 16 million pixels depending on the type of film used.[7]

that's fucking bullshit. 4-6 mpx AT BEST. according to roger deakins, any experienced cinematographer, anyone whos scanned 35mm, and objective comparisons of shots of the same scene.

film is shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 08:08:26 2015 No.7605572 >>7605481 I Don't think the mac address can be encrypted. You can however change it but it's generally not done.

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 08:35:07 2015 No.7605595

>>7605516
You're going to love what they say about medium format.

>A medium format film image can record an equivalent potential of approximately 400 megapixels,[8] while large format films can record considerably larger (4 × 5 inch) which equates to around 800 megapixels on the largest common film format, 8 × 10 inches

I've seen digital gigapixel photos but nothing comparable from the film era ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 09:03:03 2015 No.7605654 >>7605107 >How do I keep myself healthy against police radiation in freedumb land? Get an xray detector, see if there really are xrays passing through your house

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 09:12:41 2015 No.7605674 >>7605654 > get a bullet detector > see if bullets enter your house so it will save you from bullets

Anonymous Wed Oct 21 09:31:30 2015 No.7605705

>>7605595
Then you're clearly not looking hard enough. I've seen a gigapixel daugerrotype from 1848 - the 8 6.5" x 8.25" plates were enlarged to 170 ft x 20 ft without losing clarity.

http://1848.cincinnatilibrary.org

The wonderful thing about analog chemical photography is that your "pixels " are individual silver halide crystals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 21 10:27:54 2015 No.7605794 >>7605674 are you a fucking retard?

>>	Anonynous Thu Oct 22 02:23:33 2015 No.7607775 >>7605107 Who is this sonem domen?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 22 02:29:16 2015 No.7607778 File: 37 KB, 191x226, 1358780498338.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7605107 >70 / 5 / 14 / 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 22 12:28:49 2015 No.7608355 >>7605654 >xray detector How does one even get such a thing?

Anonymous Thu Oct 22 12:53:28 2015 No.7608382

>>7605178

Pretty much any police force in the world if they think they'll get something out of it. These people all suffer from mild to severe (but mostly severe) God symdrome, and there is no worse deceiving manipulative sack of shit than a cop. And if you think what I'm saying is just angsty teenager bullcrap or something you clearly never had any deep and meaningful interaction with cops.

FUN FACT for the road : the FBI laced alcohol with seriously poisonous shit like rubbing alcohol and bleach during the prohibition. But it was all for people's own good. Because this is really how pigs think to rationalize their own power trip, to this day, and the world over.

Anonynous Thu Oct 22 19:38:07 2015 No.7609206

>>7608382
>the FBI laced alcohol with seriously poisonous shit like rubbing alcohol and bleach during the prohibition. But it was all for people's own good. Because this is really how pigs think to rationalize their own power trip, to this day, and the world over.
[citation needed]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 23 01:42:41 2015 No.7609795 >>7605516 Not sure if you are making a valid comparison here. Cinema (movie) film resolution could be lower than still photo film as they have different purposes. See the note above "...depending on the type of film used.[7]"

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 23 02:05:45 2015 No.7609848 Now the thing to do is build an X-ray detector, find the vans and tag them. Thereby discouraging their use

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 23 03:05:43 2015 No.7609958 >>7605169 a 1987 Sony Walkman, amirite?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 23 17:07:17 2015 No.7611189 >>7608382 >>7609206 What do you even mean by rubbing alcohol? Acetone?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 23 18:38:08 2015 No.7611350 How to detect microwave? How to detect x-ray? Cheap?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 23 19:22:14 2015 No.7611412 >>7605107 Put lead plates into your wall. Yet they're toxic and I have no idea whether they can damage you this way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 24 09:34:50 2015 No.7612364 >>7611412 Who has time and money for installing lead plates into their walls?

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