IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!

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IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!! OP Mon Oct 19 02:24:57 2015 No.7600089 [Reply] [Original]

IS THIS REAL OR ARE THEY JUST BLOWING SMOKE UP OUR ASSES?!?
>http://ufoholic.com/nasas-kepler-telescope-discovers-a-colossal-artificial-structure-orbiting-a-star-in-our-vicinity/
>http://www.techtimes.com/articles/95399/20151015/has-nasa-found-an-alien-civilization-kepler-discovers-star-orbited-by-mess-of-mysterious-objects.htm

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 02:30:54 2015 No.7600093 It's just a star with tons of planets/asteroids orbiting around it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 02:32:19 2015 No.7600095
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>>7600089
It's real insofar as aliens haven't entirely been ruled out

It'll be several years before we get better images of it though, so for now we can only speculate

Even if it turns out to be ayy lmaos, they're 1500 light years away.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 02:33:59 2015 No.7600096 We already have a thread for this. >>7598894

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 02:34:24 2015 No.7600098 >>7600093 dumbfuck

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:47:46 2015 No.7600788
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As OP of the now dying other thread (>>7600096) I promote this to the current KIC 8462852 thread.

We've tentatively settled on calling her Ayychan, and there may be artwork forthcoming.

In the meantime, here is my favorite data set, with the best possible 2017 result drawn in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 11:58:05 2015 No.7600800 >>7600093 It's definitely not that. There is a 99% chance that what we're looking at is something we've never seen before, which improbably could be aliens but also includes never before observed comet or star behaivor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:00:25 2015 No.7600804 This is more newsworthy and exciting http://news.discovery.com/space/galaxies/mysterious-cold-spot-fingerprint-of-largest-structure-in-the-universe-150420.htm

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:18:11 2015 No.7600832

>>7600095
This. Even if it is aliens none of us will live long enough to make contact with them.

We'll all be dead by the time we can send/receive a message let alone even think about traveling there.

Pop sci fags think we find aliens and just fly out to meet them like its nothing. The universe is fucking big unless there's something else living here in our solar system were gonna have a hard time interacting with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:22:59 2015 No.7600841 >>7600832 I just want to see them. If it were aliens, we'd probably focus everything we have on them so we'd learn a fair bit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:23:41 2015 No.7600844 >>7600841 We wouldn't see anything. Literally, anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:25:05 2015 No.7600847 >>7600832 unless they already seeded our planet with sleeper agents many eons ago which will now activate since we discovered the location of their home system

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:25:48 2015 No.7600848 File: 37 KB, 355x357, 1432801932155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this potential object is 1500 years old from our perspective >if ayylmaos could be making this 1500 years ago, think about what they could be making now

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:32:25 2015 No.7600866 >>7600848 >if the ayys looked at Earth right now, they would see the Gothic War being waged by the Byzantines and a volcanic winter, probably not even realizing we're intelligent

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:35:42 2015 No.7600874

How do we feel about Ayychan being our new mascot for KIC 8462852?

This is what we've got so far.

Appearance: Basically Maetel from 999 except with a veil covering her face because we don't know anything about her.

Personality: Cold, alluring, ara,ara vibe while at the same time being mysterious due to the facct she's 1500 years older than us.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:35:46 2015 No.7600875

>>7600841
We probably can't see them. We can't even see the dyson sphere, if that is what it is, we just know there's some unusual shit orbiting that star cause of how the light dims.

We might be able to pick up radio signals from them, since the light from this object has reached us any transmissions should have reached us by now as well, but it would take another 1500 years for them to receive a response from us.

>>7600847
Unlikely

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:44:14 2015 No.7600887 File: 27 KB, 312x295, 079Slowpoke_Dream.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7600089 you're a fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:44:58 2015 No.7600889 >>7600847 >implying we're not in a space zoo and this isn't just some maintenance being done on part of the enclosure >>7600874 I prefer Ai-chan to Ayy-chan Makes it look like we put at least a modicum of thought into it

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:48:59 2015 No.7600901

>>7600889

Ai-chan it is, looks like that will be the official name then, while Ayychan would be more noticeable I agree that Ai-chan feels a lot more
creative.

Now we just need to pool our collective thought together, wait for January to roll around when they send a signal to see if there's anything actually there and we'll all have alien waifus by October-December of 2016. If /pol/ can do it for Ebola-chan, Trump and Winter-chan then I don't see why we can't do the same.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:54:05 2015 No.7600910

>The star has no wobble

So whatever this object is, it has the surface area of 22 Jupiters, but less mass than the smallest planet we can detect via wobble. That's insane.

If it is a gigantic comet swarm, it would have to be fairly dense and 3-dimensional to even block out any light, let alone 22%. I think it's reasonable to assume that a comet or debris swarm that big and dense would undoubtedly perturb the parent star and create a wobble effect. But there's no wobble... so whatever this thing is, it's probably two dimensional with a massive surface area.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:56:36 2015 No.7600912 >>7600901 Ai-chan also includes a hint of Artificial Intelligence. I support.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 12:59:18 2015 No.7600917 >>7600910 And it's either extremely cold or radiating in ultraviolet or above. The radiation from Ai-chan is either not interacting with it or heating it up beyond Kepler's and WISE's photometers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:03:47 2015 No.7600926 +1 for Ai-chan we need some skilled artist, maybe we could ask to /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:06:48 2015 No.7600934 >>7600926 There was a suggestion in the other thread that we just use Maetel as a template but draw a veil over her face, I like that idea a lot, maybe we could just do that until a good enough artist helps us out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:06:50 2015 No.7600935 A Y Y L M A O Y Y Y L M A O

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:08:35 2015 No.7600937 File: 143 KB, 756x588, 1445031799063.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think not

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:12:22 2015 No.7600942 > www.ufoholic.com why is /x/ raiding /sci/ today ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:16:40 2015 No.7600952 >>7600934 why Maetel? I like too

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:18:51 2015 No.7600956 AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Why is this board so shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:30:16 2015 No.7600974 >>7600952 Maetel is just the first thing I thought of when someone described Ai-chan's personality.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:39:46 2015 No.7600990

>>7600910
What, if any, element or molecule could constitute a very small nebular cloud at a distance of 3AU and remain at submilimeter or radio millimeter frequency temperatures? Argon?

>>7600934
>>7600952
>>7600974
Are we saying that /sci/ has never done the winter ball? We have no drawfag contingent? Come on.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:43:09 2015 No.7600993
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>>7600990
>>7600910
For example, this is super nova remnant 1987-A in composite. The ALMA data, submilimeter-temperature silicon oxide and carbon monoxide, is still cooler than infrared. ALMA imaged the red color in this image in submillimeter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:51:50 2015 No.7601011 >>7600089 >http://ufoholic.com/nasas-kepler-telescope-discovers-a-colossal-artificial-structure-orbiting-a-star-in-our-vicinity/ >dat shitty headline i wonder why everyone hates these conspiracy/'aliums abducted my asshole' nut websites again?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:53:16 2015 No.7601013
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>>7600993
How about a tiny Bok Globule?

Sometime in the past, prior to the WISE data, the neighbor red dwarf sloughs off an outer layer of silicon oxide and carbon. A plume of this rapidly cooling and soon to be cosmic dust gets entrained with the gravitational interaction between the dwarf and Ai-chan. As it twirls into various shapes, heading for consumption by Ai-chan, Kepler picked up its occlusion of Ai-chan, but not its emission signature because Kepler can't look for submillimeter temperatures, which are just beyond far infrared.

How much silicon oxide and carbon monoxide would it take to produce a 22% occlusion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:53:46 2015 No.7601017 >>7601011 /x/ is raiding /sci/ Haven't you seen the parallel universes, floating cities and other alium threads today ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:53:58 2015 No.7601018 is this the /x/ containment thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 13:59:00 2015 No.7601031 File: 83 KB, 241x228, 1386475400555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >they know we're watching

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:01:13 2015 No.7601040 File: 363 KB, 678x924, tfw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7600788 >>7600804 >>7600848 >>7600848 >>7600910 >>7600917 >>7600990 >>7600993 >>7601013 >tfw we get called an /x/ containment thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:02:16 2015 No.7601042 >>7601031 No they don't. In about a thousand years they'll will however. We better get ready.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:06:19 2015 No.7601052 File: 219 KB, 125x163, 1443623475934.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I haven't been able to find any news on this, are they going to use seti@home to search for signals? SETI said they're going to try, but they didn't say which telescope

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:06:46 2015 No.7601053 >>7601042 Yup they seeing earth as it was 1500 years ago. Alien fags need to learn how to relativity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:07:43 2015 No.7601055 >>7601040 > NASA KEPLER TELESCOPE DISCOVERS A COLOSSAL ARTIFICAL STRUCTURE > read the actual news :they found a star light dimming > ufoholic.com back to your containment board >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:09:09 2015 No.7601060 >>7601013 >gaseous australia becomes universal prison

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:12:07 2015 No.7601069 >>7601055 OP is a faggot. Most of us are from the previous thread and actually read the report, which - if you read it as well, you would know - plainly states whatever is going on around this star is something we've never observed before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:13:47 2015 No.7601073 http://lesswrong.com/lw/y4/three_worlds_collide_08/ >yo SETI niggers why are you sending signals to our home base could cause something like this to happen, so it's a recommended read, rarely alien psychologies are explored

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:17:07 2015 No.7601084 >>7600788 Ayychan Funny.!!! XD

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:19:42 2015 No.7601093 >>7601069 > dimmed twice with %20 oh wow...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:21:17 2015 No.7601098 >>7601084 >>7600788 Ai-chan sounds more intelligent and we're sticking with that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:22:28 2015 No.7601099 >>7601093 >not reading the report >continuing to act like you know what you're talking about >>7601098 >responding to shitposters

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:22:38 2015 No.7601101

all the "it's comets faggot" faggots need to know the following facts

>this isn't just "the biggest" dimming we have observed, it's several orders of magnitude bigger than the second
>we have never observed a sun being closely orbited by meteors
>they'd have to be a HUGE quantity of really really low mass tridimensional meteors (big mass would cause wobbling)

The simplest answer in this case it's ayyliens, to be honest. But still, don't claim shit until they actually find something. As of now it's unexplained.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:24:27 2015 No.7601109 Could it be an object somewhere between us and the star and not something in its orbit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:24:45 2015 No.7601111 >>7601099 I read the report too you retard. Don't try to act like an expert with your /x/ tier mentality. > omfg light dimmed must be aliums typical /x/ thread and belongs to >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:26:53 2015 No.7601115 >>7601109 It is. Something orbiting is just a hypothesis

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:27:44 2015 No.7601118 This thread has been corrupted by the retard OP, anyone want to make a new one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:28:00 2015 No.7601119 >>7601109 If repeated observations confirm the dimmings then it's not ayyy ship just passing by at the right time and place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:29:23 2015 No.7601123 >>7601118 There's nothing new. The new dimming is expected in 2017 may and there's nothing to talk about until then. Now take this thread where it belnogs >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:29:41 2015 No.7601124 >>7601111 Where the fuck did I say aliens? I said fucking never before seen phenomena, you dumb shitposting fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:32:14 2015 No.7601126 >>7601123 nigga get informed, we're going to get radiotelescopes looking at it in as shortly as one month

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:32:50 2015 No.7601128

>>7601124
> this thread consists entirely of me
Read the thread you goddamn imbecile. Even the OP post starts with LMAO ALIENS DUDE xD and the thread is full of ayllmao memes. We don't need your extra effort to shit up the place, every KIC thread will turn into a /x/ thread within seconds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:34:23 2015 No.7601133 >>7601126 Yeah we will rotate the dishes and see if theres any radio signals coming. It's not an excuse to /x/post until then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:34:46 2015 No.7601134 File: 8 KB, 283x238, 1301417622926.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >an artificial object is confirmed >all scopes aimed to find out what it is >it's a fucking warship >and it's headed for us >it'll be here in 50 years time What do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:35:42 2015 No.7601137 >>7601133 Ignore the retard OP, but the other thread is about to get archived and mods might get mad if we make another. Aliens or not this shit is new.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:35:43 2015 No.7601138 >>7601134 >it'll be here in 50 years time Nothing. When it comes, it would release enough energy to wipe our entire solar system.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:35:58 2015 No.7601139 the quality of sci has fucking plummeted in the last week mods we need you to sticky a kic thread here and in /x/ thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:37:36 2015 No.7601144 >>7601139 this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:38:01 2015 No.7601146 >>7601138 >it would release enough energy to wipe our entire solar system. I'll keep my asscheeks spread in preperation

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:41:51 2015 No.7601150 >>7601052 Jason Wright has put in a request to use the Green Bank Telescope already. He's waiting to hear back. SETI has expressed interest in doing a run on the VLA if the GBT finds anything (or even prolly if they don't).

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:42:51 2015 No.7601151

>>7601128
>Even the OP post starts with LMAO ALIENS DUDE xD

To which I informed you that most of us are transplanted from a separate thread that hit bump limit, but you're more interested in complaining about /x/ than discussing science and aren't helping matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:45:23 2015 No.7601152 >>7601151 >comes to /sci/ to shitpost with other /x/ posters just fucking leave nobody intelligent is going to comment in these threads if shitbrains like you keep posting

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:47:19 2015 No.7601154
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>>7601115
An orbiting occlusion is supported by the periodicity. A local object would likely have showed up in the Kepler data, but it didn't. It would have looked something like when you have a bug on your telescope lens.

There's nothing local in the WISE data either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:47:22 2015 No.7601155 >>7601042 they have been watching us longer than we have been watching team, if they exist and if they could do shit like that 1500 years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:52:04 2015 No.7601168 >>7601144 fam

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:54:11 2015 No.7601173 >>7601168 tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:57:22 2015 No.7601182 >>7601150 Yeah, I know that now, but still not mention of seti@home >literally the only way I have of doing something useful for society and SETI won't let me

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 14:59:14 2015 No.7601184

>>7601152
The subject itself isn't shit, but the way people trying to interpret is data does't go beyond /x/ fantasies.

>>7601154
There is 450,000,000 kilometers between earth and KIC. Which is a veeeery long distance for lots of objects to cross over. Just because it's not local, doesn't mean it's orbiting KIC and proposing something like that is pure autism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:04:26 2015 No.7601198 >>7601184 and space is veeeeeeeeery empty. Could it happen once? Sure. But twice? No fucking way.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:04:33 2015 No.7601199
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So.. We started emitting lights out into the universe about 60 years ago or so. That leaves us 1440 years to prepare for the inevitable invasion that is to come.

Will we defend our planet or will we try to evacuate and escape, or will we just assume that they will contact us before harming us?

Maybe it's a really awful idea to emit light into the universe, and maybe it's even too late to correct. As people have already theorized, the reason why we haven't found anyone else, could be that one type 3 civilization just keeps wiping out every civilization they find, to protect themselves.

Hopefully though, if we meet aliens we should hope they just don't wipe us out without question, for what harm could we possibly pose to a civilization that could theoretically be millions of years ahead of us.

In b4 /x/, if you were in charge what would you do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:06:55 2015 No.7601202 >>7601198 > multiple objects with similar sizes crossing between two points in space with 450 MILLON kilometers in 4 years is impossible. Is this actually what you just said ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:07:17 2015 No.7601204 >>7601182 seti@home is always ongoing. you can get started anytime you want. They don't have RFPs or anything. Just download it and click go. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/info.php

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:08:23 2015 No.7601206 >>7600866 >implying humans are intelligent TOP JEJ We know ~0% of the true nature of reality

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:09:12 2015 No.7601208 >>7601204 >tfw powerbills Once they start processing the ay data i'll join in though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:14:51 2015 No.7601224 >>7601204 I know, I'm in it, I'm telling ya, are they pointing us to it any time soon?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:17:21 2015 No.7601228

>>7601199
>So.. We started emitting lights out into the universe about 60 years ago or so. That leaves us 1440 years to prepare for the inevitable invasion that is to come.
You really think they will bother doing a 2940 round trip just to get some resources they obviously already have? There are closer planets, and humans are not valuable by themselves (WTF-AA1liens would be smarter and more knowledgeable, and if they can use dyson stars they can clone and create life at will)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:18:24 2015 No.7601231 >>7601228 >inb4 xeno crusade hits us in full force

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:20:31 2015 No.7601236 >>7601206 >only omniscient species are intelligent Intelligence != knowledge

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:20:34 2015 No.7601237

>>7601184
"Note that we have thoroughly validated the
data to ensure that any flux variations represent physical events in or near the star (and they do); these processes are described in detail within Section 4.1,"
>"Don't you think we thought of that?"

"Thus, the several-day duration of the events for KIC 8462852 suggests that the clumps are either close-in and large compared to the
star, or far-away from the star and small. However, clumps that are too distant move too slowly across the stellar disk to explain the observed duration regardless of their size; e.g., a 3-day duration dip cannot arise from a clump beyond 15 AU."
>It's within the gravity well of Ai-chan

"Non-periodicity: The lack of evidence for periodicity in the dips in the observed light-curve excludes orbital periods shorter
than 1500 days, which thus constrains the location to lie beyond about 3 AU. This constraint could be broken if the clumps disperse within a single orbit."
>We saw it go past twice. It was even closer to Ai-chan than the above higher constraint.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:21:47 2015 No.7601240

>>7601228
it might not be value, but to display dominance or to secure themselves they could just send a beam of whatever at our planet, or send out some drones to do the job.

Maybe their logic or laws dictate that "anyone could rise to become a threat to them if left undisturbed for millions of years, why give them the chance".

It's actually a pretty plausible explanation for why we haven't found anyone yet; because those alive are not sending anything because they are smart enough to suspect a malevolent leader of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:22:14 2015 No.7601242 >>7600866 >aliens would only look at europe white people i swear

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:22:19 2015 No.7601243 >>7601224 I have no doubt that once the GBT gets the Green light, you will be notified.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:23:10 2015 No.7601247 >>7601243 seti@home is arecibo, not green bank ohh.... you'll saying that they'll just send us the data of green bank? I didn't think of that

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:25:28 2015 No.7601250 >>7601240 Now you're making me afraid :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:25:55 2015 No.7601251 >>7601182 Actually, they found Ai-chan by manually poring over the data (check the report), and said that people might find more similar anomalies by doing the same for other stars. If that's the case, you can benefit mankind AND search for aliens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:27:01 2015 No.7601254 >>7601251 Link to the graphs + explanation of how to interpret them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:30:46 2015 No.7601266 File: 31 KB, 500x461, i_hug_that_feel[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601250 i am scared too anon

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:31:11 2015 No.7601269

>>7601247
I would think they would. It will be the most exciting thing since the wow signal.

I read that Wright's request is only for a few hours of time though. He's thinking that either there will something obvious (modulated radio band) or nothing. They might not need us. If they find any excuse to go to VLA, wouldn't they have to spend at least several days on it?

Maybe then.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:31:12 2015 No.7601270

>>7601240

Are you the same fearmongering jew that keeps spreading interstellar fear across the board ? We WERE violent caveman who feared and tried to be alpha, then we evolved to normal civilized human beans. The only uncivilized ones are the low uneducated ones, not the rest.

ı mean you have to understand that space missions are the result of a consensus. There are regulations to what someone must do when they meet an alien. Which means unless their entire civilization agrees to be hostile towards us or anyone else, their initial stance will be a meet and greet.

IF their entire civilization was hostile, they would fall apart before they can run space missions. We have seen this throught every hostile and dictatorial governmental system.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:32:03 2015 No.7601274 >>7601269 >I read that Wright's request is only for a few hours of time though. They're banking on finding something, then extend the time

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:32:37 2015 No.7601276 >>7601254 http://www.planethunters.org/ Big button, "Start Classifying"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:33:07 2015 No.7601278 >>7601270 Don't forget that human civilization has trended towards less war, poverty, crime, disease, and overall badness over time as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:33:13 2015 No.7601279 >>7601276 Thanks a lot, if I find ayyliens I'm crediting random anon in the internet with the inspiration

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:43:43 2015 No.7601302

>>7601270
Have you ever read anything about volatile AI?

Anyone building a dyson sphere would rely heavily on drones, and anyone managing that amount of drones would probably rely on AI.

Hopefully anyone who had the brains to build an complicated AI would have the brains to restrict the purposes of the AI, but if just one civilization in the lifetime of the universe messed up and made a volatile AI that tricked the owners, it could mean that the AI just decided that it's purpose was to expand as much as possible, building dyson spheres around nearby suns and turning planets into more drones or processing power.

It's not really /x/fiction either. There are actually a lot of people, and entire institutions worrying about making sure that we won't accidentally create a volatile AI on our planet.
If you like stuff like this, you should just read the intro and FAQ of:
http://intelligence.org/files/AIPosNegFactor.pdf
it's like a 20 minute read, and really really interesting.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:45:53 2015 No.7601310

>>7601302
Oh man, I knew it was going to be Eliezer Yudkowski.
He wrote the Three Worlds Collide I mentioned above, and also Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality which is a really good Harry Potter fanfiction.

He's either a complete nutjob or a wannabe cult leader though, but a decent writer.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:45:54 2015 No.7601311

>Always post UFO stories that I think are credible on /sci/
>Always ignored/laughed at/attacked by fedoras
>This story happens
>We /x/ now
>Im ironically one of the few people here who doesnt think its aliens.
Fuck you all, youre only taking this seriously because "muh scientists detected it". I think that an experienced pilot swearing that he saw an ayy with his own two eyes up close is better than this entierly circumstantial evidence. Nobody has seen any ayys, its just a possible explanaton. You have had people for centuries saying they've actually seen the ayys up close yet that got ignored.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:47:09 2015 No.7601316

>>7600847
I like it.
Living a normal human life you'd never notice it, something'd be off but that's it.
But being consciously aware of said ET home world would definitely trigger latent ET heritage. It would feel like it was touching you from the inside.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:47:36 2015 No.7601319 >>7601302 i linked the wrong paper, it's https://intelligence.org/files/CFAI.pdf ,i actually haven't read PosNegFactor. It's still yudkowsky ya.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:48:54 2015 No.7601321 >>7601270 Meeting a new civilization implies they might not agree with everything they do, which in turn might lead to hostile sentiment and eventually conflict. Why would an alien race bother to take that risk?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:49:42 2015 No.7601324

>>7601311
>>Im ironically one of the few people here who doesnt think its aliens.
What do you think it is?

>obody has seen any ayys, its just a possible explanaton
Nobody has seen the alternative explanation either. And it's the only one. If they disprove the impossible (infinite macrometeor hypothesis) the remaining has to be true, however improbable.

The only right statement to make in this case it's: either it's meteors, or it's aliens (both of these have equal probability, learn statistics if you don't believe me) OR it's something we have never, ever seen before and we couldn't even conceive, in which case we have to get hyped regardless.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:53:13 2015 No.7601331
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>>7601278
Yeah, more baldness means being closer to aliens...and i'm not just saying this because i'm going bald...

>>7601302
Drones have nothing to do with AI bro. We have tons of technological developments but nothing relies on AI. Building a conscious AI that makes those kinds of judgement is incredibly hard. Even he programmed machines we build don't work right half the time, thats why we have to use multiple human operators even on smaller machines.

>>7601321
Well there are two paths, either meet&greet and learn their intentions, or go straight to war with them. But going straight to war is much more risky because you lose the chance of any possible allience and you don't know what kind of arsenal the enemy has. Attacking a stranger without investigating them is incredibly primitive and no civilization advanced enough would pick that path.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:55:00 2015 No.7601337

>>7601324
Actually, as I was tiptoeing between treble hooks above, I tried to think through a couple of hypotheses.

>>7600993
>>7601013
>>7600990

But everybody was busy slinging lures at each other.

I think the Tabby paper has a formula for calculating the temperature of a blackbody gas for an F-type star of observed temperature for Ai-chan and it rules out anything that would behave like a black body.

We need a molecule that can remain at submillimeter temperatures at 3AU from a large F-type star.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:55:01 2015 No.7601338 >>7601242 Well, the Europeans and Chinese were the only ones doing anything noteworthy at the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:58:06 2015 No.7601347 If aliens have more technology then us, why the fuck do you guys think they will be here in 1500 years. They could have shit that can be here in days or a couple years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:59:22 2015 No.7601351 File: 962 KB, 2048x1536, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7600874 Giving her a try

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 15:59:47 2015 No.7601353 File: 211 KB, 888x1000, 5b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601347 They also might be like mt 2d chinese cartoons

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:00:39 2015 No.7601357

>>7600993
we know the size of the star, it's not a super nova remnant and the brightness matches a regular star

the only reason this is relevant it's because if it was a young star then it wouldn't be so weird since it'd be partially obscured in dust

the object that passed in front of the star was dark, it didn't emit regular light like your remnant

remnants don't occlude stars and "orbit" in a 4 year period

>>7601013
this is slightly better, but you dumbass, that's even more unusual and retarded than an alien macrostructure

again, the same problem that it has to orbit the star for it to cross the same point twice, do you think the plume would do that?

>>7600990
same as the above

>>7601337
I GUESS it can make sense, but you need to account for the dimensions involved, and I think your math is fuzzy. Surely some of the bodies you've named emit something other than infrared we can't detect?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:01:22 2015 No.7601359 >>7601351 > christian hat plz no. also are you /aco/ ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:03:09 2015 No.7601361 >>7601347 We don't know if FTL travel is possible yet. They might just be immortals that slowly drift through the universe for fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:05:17 2015 No.7601368 File: 101 KB, 736x643, maetel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601359 >also are you /aco/ Nope. And never will, I think. >christian hat Well, that's Maetel's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:06:35 2015 No.7601370 >>7601347 Laws of nature, or what we know of them at least, seem to prevent FTL travel. We can't totally rule it out but it seem more likely that it is impossible than possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:07:56 2015 No.7601373 >>7601042 If they could magically see how earth was at the time they could hypothesize about our current technology, as they would know 1500 years happened. Of course, hypothecize with a great error margin.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:08:26 2015 No.7601375
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>>7601331
I mean, we are actually not far from being able to build self replicating robots by now, and with increased cpu power and image analyzing algorithms, we can make cars that navigate traffic as well as humans.

So if we take the following steps:

>Build robot a that collects metal X
>Build robot b that collects metal Y
>Build robot c that collects batteries from the dyson sphere
>Build robot d that builds dyson sphere
>Build robot e that fabricate robots a, b, c, d, e

The robots would pretty much be able to build a dyson sphere given enough time. It would start slowly, but once you have billions or trillions of robots, you'd cover large areas of a sun pretty fast.

These robots might not need an ai controlling them. They'd only have to be as smart as insects.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:10:01 2015 No.7601379 What if aliens see the universe as c and not as separate things like us?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:11:54 2015 No.7601380

>>7601357
>>7601337
Actually after reading on Bok Globules, I can't immediately see a reason why that couldn't be it. The problem is that they're more massive than the star by far, and bigger. A tiny one orbiting a star has never been observed, but I guess that doesn't mean anything if we're comparing it to ayyliens.

Good job anon, possibly. I have the feeling--WHOOPS NEVERMIND

It's a red dwarf you dumbass, the outer layer is never going to be 22% as big as a star, and it's not 2D judging from the signatures, it's irregular in shape tridimensionally. I have to admit I don't know much about the creation of stars, but the math tells me you're wrong.

I can't find a single mention of Bok Globules "wandering". It doesn't make sense that another star would steal them from a younger one. And the Red Dwarf isn't young enough to justify it still existing.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:13:52 2015 No.7601383

>>7601184
>450,000,000 kilometers between earth and KIC.

...wait what? Did you just say that? Like, did you really just say that? Seriously? No satire or anything? You actually meant to say that? Are you for real? Did you honestly sit down on your fat disgusting ass, pull up your rusty laptop from 2005, open up 4chins/sci(x)/ and type that steaming bullshit? And then you actually posted it for god knows what reason? Are you like, seriously for real? Am I seeing things or is this actually 100% real?

Okay let me just check some things first..
KIC 8462852 is ~1480 light years away. Alright.
How long is one light year then? Hmm.. let me check that..
9460730472580.8 kilometers. Alright... wait what?
Let's clean up that number..
9,460,730,472,580.8 km
Uh huh, looks like its around 9.5 trillion.
Let's go back to the number you posted...
>450,000,000 km
Is it just me, or does it look like the retarded number you pulled out of your dirty ass is SMALLER than one. fucking. light. year?
Yeah, it looks like it.
Let's check how far away KIC is then...
9460730472580,8 * 1480 = 14,001,881,099,419,584
That's 14 001 881 099 419 584 kilometers
or better known as 14 quadrillion.
How much is 14 quadrillion? 14000 trillion.
Your number was 450 million.
Let's see.
Your number: 450 million
Real distance: 14000000000 million
So it looks like I'm right.
Your fat smelly ass really did post that retarded number and im not just seeing things.
Your fUCKING NUMBER IS LITERALLY AND EXACTLY 31115291 TIMES SMALLER THAN THE R E A L DISTANCE TO KIC 8462852
YEAH YOU FUCKING HEARD ME RIGHT
YOU FUCKING RETARDED KIKE JEW CUCK FUCKER BARELY USED 0.1 PERCENT OF YOUR DEGENERATE DECOMPOSING NUT SIZED BRAIN TO POST A NUMBER SO FUCKING SMALLER THAN THE REAL VALUE THAT EVEN A TODDLER WOULD NOTICE HOW WRONG THAT NUMBER WAS
WHAT THE FLYING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. WRONG. WITH. YOU.
I LITERALLY CANT COMPREHEND HOW FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
YOU FUCKING RETARDED BITCH

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:14:00 2015 No.7601385 >>7601302 A really really interesting /x/fiction 20 minutes read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:14:23 2015 No.7601386 >>7600804 I actually work on that following up that paper. We're carrying out a small spectroscopic survey of the void next month. We also have time on the Hubble Space Telescope to use the void as a laboratory for gas around galaxies.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:15:22 2015 No.7601387

>>7601375
How much earthly assets is it going to consume to build something like that ? Not to mention the cost of travelling across the space and everything.

Self-replicating is doable by todays standards, people doN't do it because there is no reason to. But AI or self-controlled robots that build something like that is a whole other deal. It's incredibly complicated

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:15:30 2015 No.7601388 >>7601385 How is it /x/fiction exactly, there is literally nothing implausible about AI takeover.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:16:20 2015 No.7601389 >>7601338 >collapsing empire >noteworthy

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:17:29 2015 No.7601394

>>7601387
With appropriate consideration, you could probably harvest all the necessary materials from comets or other planets. Travelling from comets to the sphere would be covered by the energy that the sphere provided. Of course if you wanted a faster production, you would have to provide more initial energy and materials.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:18:30 2015 No.7601395

>>7601380
>>7601337
"This is where Bok globules come in. One proposal to the Red Sirius mystery is that a Bok globule passed in between us and Sirius, making the star appear red for a few hundred years."

A Bok globule passing in front of the star would make it appear redder, which didn't happen. Sorry dude, your theory sucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:18:48 2015 No.7601396 File: 54 KB, 158x275, 1411439892293.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:20:42 2015 No.7601398 >>7601184 hahahahahAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA hah...haha... fuck. 450million. hahahaa.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:20:48 2015 No.7601399 >>7601351 I'd imagine Ai would be bustier due to being a cake but overall not bad. I like it.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:24:23 2015 No.7601410
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>>7601383
But now there is more space for objects to swing between the earth and KIC :^)

>>7601394
Dude...cmon now, thats just too far out. We can't even make mars missions or a space elevator. The autonomous building of a dyson sphere might be possible if we survive that long but its centuries ahead of us. We won't see shit in our lifetimes anyway.

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Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:26:09 2015 No.7601414

>Not even reading fucking articles about the subject.

>Immediately jumping to the conclusion that it must be aliums because you have the attention span of a young teenager.

>Shitposting about how "ITS HAPPENIONG#@!$" when you don't even understand how science works, and instead are looking merely for the next mediac spectacle to tingle your jimmies.

>Will probably be disappointed when it turns out to not be aliens but instead some new incredible astronomical phenomenon because you don't actually don't give a single shit about space science or astronomy, just aliums.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:26:12 2015 No.7601415 >>7600848 >alien grade gaymin computers

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:26:31 2015 No.7601417

>>7601311
>Fuck you all, youre only taking this seriously because "muh scientists detected it". I think that an experienced pilot swearing that he saw an ayy with his own two eyes up close is better than this entierly circumstantial evidence. Nobody has seen any ayys, its just a possible explanaton. You have had people for centuries saying they've actually seen the ayys up close yet that got ignored.

The difference is this has zero plausible explanations, but people claiming to have seen aliens has many.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:29:05 2015 No.7601422 >>7601398 >>7601383 samefagging hard in here

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:29:07 2015 No.7601423

>>7601368
>>7601351

I think ditch the hat and just go with the veil. That's enough, I think. the full-riddler question-mark motif is too heavy handed.

The outfit you drew her in makes me think of a combination between FFX Lulu and a bathrobe, but it otherwise doesn't look bad.

The long hair I like, and the hands/expression are good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:29:18 2015 No.7601424 File: 149 KB, 1647x823, dat star.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601276 This is interesting Look what i just found. A star where it loses about 50% of its luminosity every couple of days. That's some big ass thing that's orbiting it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:30:13 2015 No.7601426 >>7601351 I got the hat without having to be told. Blonde hair or brunette? Or something like platinum luminous? Or raven black for the unknown. Or super-deep scarlet for submillimeter beyond infrared?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:30:44 2015 No.7601428 File: 17 KB, 526x433, 1429837903589.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383 Holy shit so much rage in one post. Are you OK?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:31:13 2015 No.7601429 File: 144 KB, 927x1433, thorazine-1960s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7600089 Also "Them."

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:31:28 2015 No.7601430 >>7601414 > turns out to be something exciting > not aliums tell me what could be exciting about this if its not aliums ?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:33:44 2015 No.7601437

>>7601426
Well, I think either blonde or raven would work better than brunette, but the black hair might be too much black alongside the black outfit.

Black hair with stars in it, like space, would be cool, but it would probably look like dandruff.

The deep scarlet has a nice reason for being there, which I appreciate, so that gets my vote.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:35:19 2015 No.7601441 >>7601437 >>7601426 What if we make her hair silver so it stands out more considering she's in space most of the time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:35:21 2015 No.7601442 >>7601414 this is the third time they have cried ayyliens first one: WOW signal, still unexplained second one: LTG-1, discovery of pulsars third time: WTF-001 dimming, still unexplained there's reasons to be hype, and they're not all ayliens

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:37:09 2015 No.7601444 >>7601426 obviously yellow-white, since it's a yellow-white star

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:38:33 2015 No.7601446
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>>7601357
The thought with 1987-A was only that there is a precedent for submillmeter gas sources near sources of high heat.

>emit something other than infrared we can't detect?

Argon oxides were detected in the spectrum from the Crab nebula, but they were in infrared. pic etc.

It would have to be something like a noble gas that resists bonding and ionization. Free argon was also found in the crab, in the coldest most shielded regions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:42:15 2015 No.7601452 >>7601387 >>7601394 >Send the robots to the asteroid belt

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:43:16 2015 No.7601454 >>7601395 >redder Yeah, but was it also dimmer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:44:39 2015 No.7601456 >>7601454 Actually the theory falls apart around then because you're in fact right, it would dim it. But it would still make the light overall redder, and that wasn't observed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:45:00 2015 No.7601458 >>7601410 The only thing keeping us from Mars is money. We know /how/ to do all the parts. Technological know-how is not our deficit resource. It's money and will.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:47:09 2015 No.7601460 >>7601410 >But now there is more space for objects to swing between the earth and KIC :^) Okay, how are you faggots so stupid, unless this is all ironic shitposting. Just in case it isn't, it's orbiting. If it had happened once it wouldn't be news.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:48:30 2015 No.7601461 >>7601458 Why not just get rid of money? It's an artificial resource that is starting to hold us back

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:49:11 2015 No.7601462 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Bo%C3%B6tis >someone seriously gave a star this name were they expecting hot alien booty

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:49:55 2015 No.7601465

>>7601414
Lighten up, Francis. We commandeered the faggot OP thread because it was already there when the other one starting falling through the bump limit.

>>7601424
Nice. So regular. Good planet candidate.

>>7601430
A new stellar phenomenon. Like Eta Carinae. Or the freak blue supergiant in Magellan. Something that expands the cosmic zoo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:51:22 2015 No.7601469 File: 178 KB, 1190x906, Least Intelligent Comment.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601460 > 2 times is enough to call it a pattern. Oh wow...

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:51:24 2015 No.7601470
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>we get a signal that's emiting from the dyson sphere across most frequencies and most directions
>the sphere was created for the purpose of sending this signal
>here's the cure for mortality, you're welcome homos

I can dream, can't I?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:51:44 2015 No.7601471

>>7601437
Two for deep scarlet

>>7601441
one for silver. I don't object on the basis of maintaining forward momentum, but reconsider >>7601437 's endorsement.

>>7601444
One for yellow-white. But is Ai-chan the star, or the mysterious combination of star+occluder?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:51:48 2015 No.7601472

>>7601461
>It's an artificial resource that is starting to hold us back

No, it's a medium of exchange. If you eliminate it, you either change to a fascist state or you replace it with some other medium of exchange.

We lack the "money" to go to Mars in that nobody who wants to go to Mars (SpaceX, NASA) can convince people to work for free, acquire rocket parts (or the raw resources for said manufacture) for free, etc.

>>	AYY LMAO EMMISARY !GtN0Plfghk Mon Oct 19 16:52:32 2015 No.7601474 Its an asteroid or comet the sizes we never seen. Its not AYY LMAOS, We would never reveal ourselves to you pesky savages. Go back to fling shit and raping goats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:52:35 2015 No.7601475 File: 9 KB, 450x400, 1444688276023.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601469 >2 times orbiting with the same extraordinary dimming is not a pattern

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:52:45 2015 No.7601476 >>7601446 *argon hydrides

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:52:49 2015 No.7601477 >>7601469 >calls someone else "least intelligent" >is too stupid to read the fucking report

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:53:28 2015 No.7601479 >>7600089 Reminder to sage this kind threads, we already discussed this like 10 times this week, and the scientific consensus it's that it isn't ayy lmaos. If you want to discuss this further, there are a board dedicate to it >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:53:36 2015 No.7601481 >>7601472 the new medium of exchange is now cool space stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:53:46 2015 No.7601482 >>7601471 >But is Ai-chan the star, or the mysterious combination of star+occluder? the hat thing should be black, like the blindfold, while her hair should be white yellow

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:55:43 2015 No.7601486

>>7601461
I don't think the species is ready for star trek just yet. The other argument is just print a couple of trillion dollar coins, but the FED is so terrified that everyone will realize that the dollar is just made out of thin air and blind faith that everyone would start demanding to be paid a minimum income for doing nothing.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:57:22 2015 No.7601487

>>7601486
>but the FED is so terrified that everyone will realize that the dollar is just made out of thin air and blind faith that everyone would start demanding to be paid a minimum income for doing nothing.

Parts of Europe make that work, why not here?

We can test it out in a European-scale state that nobody cares about, like Minnesota.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:57:58 2015 No.7601488

>>7601461
money makes sure we balance our desires for well being together with our desire for space travel.

Is space travel worth sacrificing american burgers and colas? Most americans say no, so until we get wealthier and more content with what we have, we will have to wait.

Honestly though, on mars you will mostly just find rocks sand, and maybe we will find bacteria or other small life beneath the surface if they really did find water. But what really matters is the research for bigger things.

We know we can build the rocket to mars, but we could also spend the billions of dollars on researching other things. (Or buying more burgers and cola)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 16:59:52 2015 No.7601489 >>7601477 >>7601475 > muh report Your reports "orbiting" is a hypothesis you idiots. Their conclusion that it's orbiting just because the light dimmed twice is not called evidence, it's called a hypothesis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:00:42 2015 No.7601490 >>7601487 European here, you're thinking of a couple test-sites. The reason why basic income ain't going to happen is because it would mean rich people (who control the Law) would have less privileges and money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:00:49 2015 No.7601492 >>7601489 And it's a hypothesis that fits the data. Which is something that CANNOT be said for your "it's something inbetween us!!!!" theory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:01:44 2015 No.7601496 >>7601489 >Your reports "orbiting" is a hypothesis you idiots. Isn't orbiting the only way for an astrobject to pass in front of a start twice in a short time period?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:05:39 2015 No.7601498

>>7601492
> it can't be something between us
> the thing orbiting the KIC is between us :O
The light dimmed twice, there is no indication of any orbiting. They can't retrieve any distance information about the object because they can only collect distance data from light or radiation, not the objects that occlude the light which don't emit any light or radiation.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:06:05 2015 No.7601499

>>7601475
It's not actually.

If we had 3 points then we would be more confident that it's an actual periodic event.

But until that happens, 2 points doesn't mean shit as it could very easily be periodic or very irregular, we just don't have enough data to make either claim.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:07:25 2015 No.7601502

>>7601472
Just funnel money from the entertainment industry towards spaceflight. Making movies and video games about space are starting to cost more than actual missions, which is utterly ridiculous. The indian mars probe was done on a smaller budget than the film Gravity!

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:08:32 2015 No.7601505

>>7601496
> one object.
There isn't even a proof if it's the same object or not. The light only dimmed around %20 twice, similar sized multiple objects is enough to create this dimming, to say it's orbiting, you need actual consecutive dimmings, more than 2, that creates a clear pattern.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:10:13 2015 No.7601507 >>7601505 >The light only dimmed around %20 twice nigger, the pattern is too similar for it to be two different causes, there's some thing as lux variance

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:10:35 2015 No.7601509 So this is confirmed something right? Like this isn't going to be some bullshit conspiracy funding thing right? This isn't comets or space ice or something gay like that right? This is something to get genuinely excited about...Right?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:11:20 2015 No.7601511 >>7601507 >nigger, the pattern is too similar for it to be two different causes, there's some thing as lux variance >too similar >we're basing object similarity off of some 4chan faggots opinion source

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:12:05 2015 No.7601512 >>7601509 Too far away to get too excited for now. Not enough info except to just speculate for now as well. Patience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:12:33 2015 No.7601513 >>7601511 do you want me to link at the one scientific paper that concludes it's the same object or group of objects yet again?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:13:21 2015 No.7601517

>>7601509
Show me the chronologic spectogram of the light dimming and i'll show you why you're wrong.
>>7601507
The facts are true and accurate and confirmed by NASA(not joking), you can take a deep breathe on that, but the way these dicknipples interpret the facts to fit to their ayylmao theories are complete bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:13:36 2015 No.7601518 >>7601512 >too far away >a month til an university checks it >two-three months until someone else checks it >3-4 months untiL SETI checks it >amateur telescopers and the virtual telescope project already on it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:15:21 2015 No.7601524 >>7601518 I just hope we don't hear something creepy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:15:31 2015 No.7601526 >>7601513 Funny how that same paper argues that we need to study the star MORE in order to figure out what's actually going on. But yes link the paper again.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:16:04 2015 No.7601529

>>7601517
>but the way these dicknipples interpret the facts to fit to their ayylmao theories are complete bullshit.
why are you calling a respected scientist a dicknipple? The hypothesis was first suggested by one. It isn't something we blew up.

I explained it above. We have NEVER seen this happen before. It's either something really really really unusual (the asteroids being dragged into the star by another star...which passed through an asteroid field because SHUT UP), something we've never seen before but which is compatible with the data (ayyliens), or something we just don't know about (like what happened with pulsars) and that will be a discovery when we understand it

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:17:07 2015 No.7601532

>>7601526
>we need to study the star MORE in order to figure out what's actually going on.
Yes, we still don't know what the object or group of object is.

The fact that it is the same object/whatever is that, a FACT. There's no doubt about it, even according to the paper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:17:38 2015 No.7601535 >>7601532 >The fact that it is the same object/whatever is that, a FACT. There's no doubt about it, even according to the paper. source.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:19:45 2015 No.7601539 >>7601529 Which scientist called it an ayylmao exactly ?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:21:29 2015 No.7601543
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>>7601456
Missed this the first time:

"While interstellar medium features are not typically related to indicators of astrophysically interesting >happenings
in stars, we note the presence of stellar and interstellar Na D lines in our spectra. In the bottom panel of Figure 5, we show a close up of the region containing the Na D lines (5890;5896̊ A). Within the two broad stellar features, there are two very deep and narrow Na D lines with split line profiles, indicating the presence of two discrete ISM clouds with different velocities of 20 km s-1."

There are two interstellar medium clouds between us and Ai-chan and they contain the sodium doublet.

And I looked again, and the spectra were only taken on four days, not during the occlusion activity. So we actually don't know whether the occlusion was accompanied by a change in visible color.

The Milky Way is full of gaseous weirdness from all those supernovae over all those epochs. pic related. Some unusual molecular cloud has to be more likely than robotic space dragonflies, doesn't it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:23:36 2015 No.7601548 >>7600990 >geeks/nerds never been to the ball >surprising

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:25:27 2015 No.7601552 guh this shit is genuinely terrifying to me like if i think too hard on it i cant stop thinking some relativity vehicle is gonna hit me. just because i think too hard about it. that would be absurd, right? if it happened? hehe. [spoiler] right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:28:42 2015 No.7601557 >>7600089 >new astronomical phenomenon discovered >ALIENS CONFIRMED every time

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:30:31 2015 No.7601559 >>7601539 Dr. Jason Wright >>7601543 I also forgot to mention it's explicitly said those kind of objects don't orbit stars. They just kind of aimlessly wander. >>7601535 The paper, all the events they consider are orbiters, not transient bodies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:31:08 2015 No.7601561 >>7601559 >The paper, all the events they consider are orbiters, not transient bodies. source

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:32:48 2015 No.7601563 >>7601559 Where did he say aliens exactly ? Cite the exact quotes so we can stop asking for source

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:35:30 2015 No.7601566 >>7601524 this tbh space is terrifying and this shit freaks me out

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:36:42 2015 No.7601569

>>7601563
https://sites.psu.edu/astrowright/2015/10/15/kic-8462852wheres-the-flux/

>>7601561
jesus fuck, check the fucking paper, this is your last answer, "4 POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONS OF THE OBSERVED
DIPPING EVENTS OBSERVED IN KIC 8462852", skip the "we fucked up" explanations, which they disprove anyway, and scroll down to all those orbiting hypothesis

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:36:44 2015 No.7601570
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>>7601505
>>7601507
>>7601513
>>7601517
pic is the entire flux observation. All 1500 odd days of it. there is no periodicity, and there is a subsection of the paper titled "Non periodicity."

"Non-periodicity:
The lack of evidence for periodicity in the
dips in the observed light-curve excludes orbital periods shorter than 1500 days, which thus constrains the location to lie beyond
about 3 AU. This constraint could be broken if the clumps disperse within a single orbit."

So Tabby herself acknowledges that whatever it was could be gone already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:37:00 2015 No.7601572 >>7600089 It is an interesting discovery, but the media is doing a big hype with the alien theory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:37:43 2015 No.7601579 >>7601570 >This constraint could be broken if the clumps disperse within a single orbit." Learn to read

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:38:02 2015 No.7601580 >>7601146 That would absorb most of the energy. We might just have a chance, lads

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:38:29 2015 No.7601581
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>>7601566
before we hear any kind of threat, we need to decypher their language and shit. getting threatened is not that easy. And what if they say they're peaceful, can you trust them ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:40:26 2015 No.7601586 >>7601570 It's not even the same pattern... you fucking hyped shit up for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:40:49 2015 No.7601587 >>7601581 im just getting more and more spooked the longer i stay in this thread. wish i never popped into sci today...

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:43:37 2015 No.7601599

>>7601548
Who would we ask? /an/? /po/? /gd/?

>>7601559
No they don't orbit, but ISM clouds typically twirl, often in patterns that repeat for long periods until perturbed by some other objects gravity.

How about a pinwheeling tendril of dense sodium in front of Ai-chan, not in orbit, far enough away that it is cooler than far infrared?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:44:42 2015 No.7601603 >>7601569 that's not a source nigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:46:12 2015 No.7601607 >>7601570 This is the flux? So all the niggers going HURR DURR IT'S THE SAME OBJECT BECAUSE MUH FLUX just got blown the fuck out.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:47:56 2015 No.7601611

>>7601566
The only time I ever got vertigo I was looking at Saturn through a 14 inch reflector and I was standing slightly bent over to the eyepiece and I stayed on it so long that the rings appeared to tilt from the change in apparent angle from how far it had moved in the sky and I forgot where my balance was because my head had been unconsciously tilting to correct and without feeling the fall at all the ground just up and popped me in the head.

I've always had a residual sense of that in subsequent observations and it's coupled to a general sense of occasional dread about how enormously fucking huge and multiply complex it is up there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:50:51 2015 No.7601618 >>7601611 i cant look at high res images of planets i flip out have to grab hold of something and breathe

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:53:36 2015 No.7601626 File: 42 KB, 499x831, cat reverse face shift.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601570 > completely different spikes > periodic %20 dimming Was this an epic troll then ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 17:59:18 2015 No.7601641 >humans will finally join The Culture I've waited this for all my life how will you decide to live your live when The Culture adopts our civilization in to the federation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:22:48 2015 No.7601692 >>7601599 I like the pinwheel idea, seems like it would make a nice touch. I'm off to sleep now but I hope Ai gets a nice, warm welcome when she's finally finished being drawn.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:28:37 2015 No.7601706

>>7601626
No. I think it is if anything a seperation between those who read it and those who didn't One of the theories they look at is that the first large dip is the same object as the second large dip, but broken up due to a collision. That can't be ruled out entirely because WISE was finished, and no one but Kepler was looking at this completely otherwise boring F-type star at the time. And since no one was looking in April this year either, because it wasn't a thing yet, the decisive moment now lies in May of 2017.

But >>7601599 makes a point - there is a reason Tabby et.al. noted the presence of two ISM clouds in the spectra - because ISM clouds are randomly distributed and a pinwheeling occlusion of a dense tendril in a sodium doublet bearing ISM motion would also produce a flux that is non-periodic and has strong Na D lines. Which are also given in the paper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:29:27 2015 No.7601711 >>7601641 imperial mememaster

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:32:18 2015 No.7601719 Drawfag here. Tomorrow evening (UTC+1) I'll make a second try on Ai-chan. Over and out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:34:06 2015 No.7601724 File: 34 KB, 493x402, 1314273461866.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:35:14 2015 No.7601727

>>7601626
plus Wright pointed out that there are a bunch of lesser dips among the big ones. dips that are too big to be intrinsic variation because the rotation is so fast, but too small to be planetesimals, so imagining an incomplete structure, like the one in OP's image still fits with the data.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:39:08 2015 No.7601735 >>7601719 You're doing God's work anon, hair colour should definitely be yellow-white to match the sun's colour. If Ai-chan was voiced by a seiyuu who would it be? I can see Yū Kobayashi or Miyuki Sawashiro doing the role well.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:39:45 2015 No.7601737

>>7601727
Dude thats completely ridiculous. small irregular dips can be best explained by shit occluding the light. It's a much more sensible explaination than a dyson sphere. Also there are 3 spikes with similar sizes, so they are hardly the same object.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:41:59 2015 No.7601741 >>7601502 Gravity also probably made way more money than that probe

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:42:21 2015 No.7601742 File: 18 KB, 194x200, 1329009731369.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383 people like this exist. L M A O

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:49:09 2015 No.7601758

Did anybody come up with this way of "communication" before?
I mean, sending out signals into a direction is cute and even makes my heart feel warmer, but the possibility that anybody ever even as much as notices is, are negligible.

This however, is pretty much the best way to tell other living beings that you are there, without breaking the laws of physics and doing some kind of warp shit, no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:53:19 2015 No.7601765 >>7601758 Yeah and two-way communication back-to-back here takes only 3000 years!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:55:42 2015 No.7601766 >>7601758 I'm 90% sure other civilizations would get their shit together and have all nations collaborate on a space telescope that doesn't suck shit like ours does so we have to resort to flux analysis

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:56:36 2015 No.7601769 >>7601479 I don't get why the presence of these threads is making you so mad, just fucking hide it you autist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 18:57:20 2015 No.7601772 File: 115 KB, 589x590, 1341848520518.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:02:04 2015 No.7601783

>>7601765
I didn't mean it as a form of actual communication, but, as I said, getting another civilization's attention.

Besides, what better way of noticing eachother can you come up with than one that travels at the speed of light? Good luck, cunt.

>>7601766
James Webb is coming.... right.......?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:03:37 2015 No.7601784 >>7601783 >James Webb is coming.... right.......? Even if it actually comes by 2018 they fucked up the last telescope launch

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:05:47 2015 No.7601790 >>7601784 They already shot parts into space?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:06:58 2015 No.7601792 >>7601790 not James Webb's, another space telescope I'll track down the details for you

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:07:52 2015 No.7601796 >>7601792 Thanks, but I'm going to bed now anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:08:00 2015 No.7601797 >>7601792 >>7601790 http://www.spacetelescope.org/about/history/aberration_problem/ Even with conditions going perfectly NASA still manages to fuck shit up, no wonder they get no funding

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:09:41 2015 No.7601799 File: 4 KB, 225x225, reeeeeeeeee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383 >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:10:26 2015 No.7601801 >>7601797 Lack of funding is the issue. Religious whackjobs in Congress are the problem. >hurr durrr god said no science >oil and gas companies said science that agrees with my companies. We just have stupid people running things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:12:13 2015 No.7601806 >>7601073 I was with his story until it proposed legalized rape.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:13:30 2015 No.7601811 >>7601806 It's not a "do what this story says" story, it's fiction that's supposed to be the twist, that the new society is also fucked up compared to current humans, and they're basically alien to us

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:14:27 2015 No.7601813 >have computers scan across billions of stars >look more closely at millions of ones that seem potentially interesting >carefully examine thousands over time >find one that has an unusual mess of clutter orbiting around it >"Hey, everyone, aliens!" smh

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:14:47 2015 No.7601815
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>>7601737
See this irregularly shaped structure? The arms are the big dips and the ring spine is the small dips. That Wright's hypothesis.

I'm the pinwheeling ISM gas guy, btw. But if Wright points the GBT and hears prime numbers blasted at obvious radio frequencies, I want to be able to point back at this thread and say "I didn't abandon hypotheses just because I wanted to get troll replies on 4chan."

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:19:01 2015 No.7601824 File: 1021 KB, 6144x3456, 1423960307471.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383 HOLY SHIT PEOPLE LIKE YOU EXIST. TOP FUCKING KEK. MY SIDES ARE IN ORBIT.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:25:28 2015 No.7601836

My guess is that two planets collided relatively recently, and the debris hasn't settled down yet, plus there's some weird shit going on with the gravity from the other planets in orbit.

If you look at enough star systems, you're bound to find some crazy shit.

Just say "This is weird and we don't know what it is." If you go out there with, "This is weird and it might be aliens." and it's not, you deserve all the ridicule you're going to get.

Some jackasses said pulsars were probably aliens, when they were first detected. It was silly then, and it's silly now.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:29:59 2015 No.7601843
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>>7600089
yfw its space hornets trying to build a nest to lay eggs.

>hurr its an AI or ayy, or robot, or drone or grey goo or whatever

its just space insects makin a new nest , arbitrarily around this random star.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:35:02 2015 No.7601854 File: 31 KB, 512x288, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >they're building a days on sphere and o produce enough energy to create a wormhole >they create a wormhole to earth >they read our internet WE'RE FUCKED!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:36:56 2015 No.7601857 >>7601811 I know, I just can't imagine human civilization ever swinging that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:38:05 2015 No.7601861 >>7601813 Do you have any explanations that stick?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:39:26 2015 No.7601864 >>7601836 So guaranteed press and attention towards a new discovery is a bad thing? The public wouldn't give a shit if aliens weren't mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:41:32 2015 No.7601869 >>7601801 Which is a symptom of profound cultural problems that you can't legislate or regulate away, contrary to the wet dreams of overly politicized neoliberal wankers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:42:39 2015 No.7601870 >>7601383 i want autism to leave

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:43:18 2015 No.7601873

>>7601864
>So guaranteed press and attention towards a new discovery is a bad thing?
Attention-whoring/clickbaiting is a bad thing, especially in science. It shows a lack of integrity and you should expect thereafter to be treated as a person lacking in integrity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:44:46 2015 No.7601874 File: 795 KB, 177x166, what.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >there could be life out there and here we are posting on a mongolian cheese curdling forum about meme-spheres

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:45:47 2015 No.7601876

>>7601869
Anti-intellectualism is the culture we have. As a culture we make fun of nerds/geeks and then say this field is shit and you should work in this field because it "pays" more. We should research this field because of "commercial" benefits. Yes that was toward you FUCKING HARPER.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:46:22 2015 No.7601877 >>7601873 You understand that the people making the headlines are reporters, rather than scientists, right? Reporters have no integrity when it means less publicity. Your naivete is adorable

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:47:15 2015 No.7601880 AYYYYYYYYYYYYYLMAO

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:47:28 2015 No.7601881 File: 122 KB, 1090x443, 10-19-2015 9-44-11 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601276 >do the tutorial >"well that seems very easy and straightforward" >my first actual one Jesus christ what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:52:49 2015 No.7601894 >>7601876 Fuck off, go suck Trudeau's cock some more.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:55:58 2015 No.7601901

A civilization that would make a structure large enough to interfere with others' astronomical observations would care about science and wouldn't want to mess up others' data.

Thus, they would want to make their megastructures readily identifiable as such to avoid polluting scientific data, even if they don't care about contacting or sending messages to backwards space proles. It's just a matter of scientific ethics when you're altering the astronomical landscape.

So I think that if aliums, we'll have confirmation relatively easily and quickly after a bit of serious observation. Perhaps it would have a radio lazer beaming the message "Sorry about the mess, what you're looking at isn't actually a bunch of comets" to every star within observation distance periodically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 19:57:45 2015 No.7601904 >>7601894 Fuck off, Alberta scum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:02:24 2015 No.7601913 >>7601881 Most likely a Glitch

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:04:53 2015 No.7601919

>>7601861
You don't need to have a good explanation to know not to start talking about aliens until there's been a serious, prolonged, and fruitless effort to explain it without them. They didn't have a good explanation about pulsars at first. They found one eventually, and the "alien navigational beacon" looked very silly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:08:54 2015 No.7601925 >>7601901 First sentence assumes many things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:10:26 2015 No.7601926 >>7601919 Does it hurt to point out the possibility of aliens? Hell, it's not even the scientists that are shouting aliens, it's mainly reporters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:11:13 2015 No.7601929 >>7601913 Yeah, the funny thing about this game is that you need to keep going to get a good grip.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:14:30 2015 No.7601932 >>7601925 Yes, they're called assumptions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:14:35 2015 No.7601933 File: 106 KB, 1090x443, 10-19-2015 10-12-14 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601913 The problem is when you find something weird for the first time and have no idea what to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:14:39 2015 No.7601934 File: 176 KB, 999x436, Captura de Tela 2015-10-19 às 22.13.40.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601276 Is this a Variable star?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:14:52 2015 No.7601935 >>7601383 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:16:13 2015 No.7601936 >>7601877 >You understand that the people making the headlines are reporters, rather than scientists, right? Are they also making up the quotes from scientists saying it might be aliens? Don't be stupid.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:16:57 2015 No.7601937

>>7601857
Remember we've legalized gay marriage, and people are starting to fetishice incest in many TV shows. Shit's going progressively slipperly sloppier. I don't think we'll ever fall for it, but it's a possibility.

Also, what do you mean "until it proposed legalized rape"? That's near the end of the story

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:17:18 2015 No.7601939 >>7601933 Does anyone know what that is ? Have seen something like that only once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:17:52 2015 No.7601942 >>7601936 Quotes from SETI, a group dedicated to finding aliens. They also said if it were a megastructure, this is what it would look like. Nobody ever said, "Yep, we have definitive proof of aliens."

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:18:55 2015 No.7601944

>>7601881
I'm "playing" too (frafer), those are glitches or sometimes flares and there are so fucking many holy shit fix your damn telescope

>>7601933
>>7601939
that looks like transiting object to me, but it's definitely weird as shit
that's what the talk button is for

>>7601934
borderline pulsating, I'd just tag it as pulsating

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:19:02 2015 No.7601945 >>7601933 I feel like they should make it clearer that it's fine to skip weird ones, and also provide more of a primer on what common patterns you might see. That looks like it might be a LPV.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:19:56 2015 No.7601947 >>7601942 The doctor that started the megastructure shit doesn't work for SETI dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:20:36 2015 No.7601948 >>7601947 Link the quote you're talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:21:37 2015 No.7601951 >>7601947 Even if they aren't from SETI the rest of what I said still stands.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:22:23 2015 No.7601953 >>7601948 >>7601951 http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy/410023/ ctrl+f wright they do mention SETI but Wright himself is from Penn State University

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:24:17 2015 No.7601955 If anything this should inspire us humans to work harder if dumb ayyylmaos can make mega structures why are we so shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:24:36 2015 No.7601956 This "Bad Astronomer" piece is a pretty decent take on it: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/10/14/weird_star_strange_dips_in_brightness_are_a_bit_baffling.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:24:39 2015 No.7601957 >>7601276 >zooniverse Ayy, cool guys. I built a couple of their interfaces, looks like they've gone all HTML5 now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:28:59 2015 No.7601966 File: 62 KB, 1091x438, ANDTHISISTOGOEVENFURTHERBEYOND.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:32:11 2015 No.7601971 >all those "#transitioning planet" never gets old

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:33:53 2015 No.7601972 >>7601944 >that's what the talk button is for Yeah, problem is, guests can't talk or even identify which star they are looking at.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:34:58 2015 No.7601975 >>7601972 then register you dumbass, you'll get credit if you actually find something

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:35:01 2015 No.7601976 what if, due to the constraints of faster-than-light physical movement, the galactic community was just a giant internet messaging system where we shared knowledge with one another but never met IRL

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:40:07 2015 No.7601981 File: 977 KB, 1345x928, ayy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what would have to happen so we can be 99% be sure its aliens?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:42:29 2015 No.7601984 File: 128 KB, 2344x2456, 1408501569010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:42:40 2015 No.7601985 File: 87 KB, 1024x723, shopping tau.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tell me /sci/, what's the chance that there are bangable qt female analogues living on that orbiting object?

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:42:48 2015 No.7601986

>>7601981
>what would have to happen so we can be 99% be sure its aliens?

Spectroscopic data from the next occluding pass would probably need to show materials characteristic of artificial construction. Radio data should show high energy peaks over a few narrow bands. I'm not sure what else people would look for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:43:40 2015 No.7601989 File: 114 KB, 443x443, 1438719787285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601971 >not identifying as a transplanet

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:45:50 2015 No.7601991 >>7600089 not good photoshop m8 look closingly you can see croppings

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:46:37 2015 No.7601993 >>7601424 I hate you faggot, I still haven't found a decent regular star

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:48:34 2015 No.7601996 >>7601854 >we see them building the dyson sphere 1500 lightyears away >they built it 1500 years ago >there's no wormhole near earth yet gg

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:49:13 2015 No.7601998 File: 105 KB, 1110x522, 22edsxxd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The fuck is this star's problem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:50:30 2015 No.7602000 File: 11 KB, 408x408, 1445033847979.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601998 >that seems weird to you get your ass ready

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:50:38 2015 No.7602001 >>7601975 but I don't want credit, and I'm already registered, I did it so a few years ago but I obviously forgot everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:50:53 2015 No.7602002 >>7601998 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_star

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:52:03 2015 No.7602005 >>7602001 >I don't want credit well you do want to talk and identify stars, right faggot? then register you loser

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:53:17 2015 No.7602009 >>7601985 I hope the aliens look like curries.

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:53:25 2015 No.7602010

>>7601985
Depends. Do you find furry porn hot? How about insects? Do you require tits? What are your feelings on tentacles?

My standards for "bangable alien" is "has a suitable hole and likes it." Aliens, if you're reading this: beam me up for a good time :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:53:58 2015 No.7602012 File: 12 KB, 223x194, 1442769149448.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >example planet transits >see one exactly like something I tagged as "no transits, eclipsing binary"

Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:55:15 2015 No.7602013
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Apart from the glitch, what the hell is this?

When i zoom in, i see something that looks like a function sin(20t)*sin(t)

Is the pulsating luminosity caused by the doppler effect or what usually causes the luminosity to pulsate? I don't really know a lot about astronomy, but now I'm kinda curious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:55:50 2015 No.7602014 >>7601981 Perfect periodicity with expansion showing evidence that the identical structure got proportionally larger: >>7600788

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:56:40 2015 No.7602015 >>7601998 Now you know why it took until 1995 to find the first exoplanet that wasn't orbiting a pulsar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:56:52 2015 No.7602016 >>7602013 I saw a graph like that either, someone said it was contamination from another star

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:58:19 2015 No.7602018 >>7602013 Looks like a double helix.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:59:02 2015 No.7602020 this thread is shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:59:10 2015 No.7602021 >>7601389 >Implying Africans and Native Americans living in mud houses did anything noteworthy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 20:59:45 2015 No.7602023 >>7602020 Yeah, well, we're at the bump limit so you won't have to deal with it much longer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:00:23 2015 No.7602024 >>7602020 hide it then

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:03:10 2015 No.7602028 >>7602010 http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/johnson_10_09/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:04:11 2015 No.7602029 >>7602013 Link?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:05:12 2015 No.7602030 >>7602029 I don't think i can link it? i accidentally clicked away because i wanted to sign up to try and save it or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:06:44 2015 No.7602033 >>7602030 that's the favorite button next to the graph if you tagged it, check your forum account

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:10:58 2015 No.7602037 >>7602013 A clusterfuck obviosuly

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:16:11 2015 No.7602044 What if, this is some kind of "Morse" code being sent to the universe with their technology?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:23:10 2015 No.7602053 File: 51 KB, 566x583, alien chicks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When are we going to start scanning for signals from KIC with our big ass satellite dishes ? And how long woud it take to recieve any significant signal ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:24:53 2015 No.7602054 >>7602053 I heard Jan-Feb

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:30:10 2015 No.7602063 >>7602054 too long :c I was planning to quit masturbating until we heard the first signal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:36:14 2015 No.7602074 >>7602053 The Allen Telescope Array is already on it. Probably be a while until we get any results though. http://www.space.com/30855-alien-life-search-kepler-megastructure.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:37:48 2015 No.7602077 >>7602013 Is it a double mode RR Lyrae? Pls some PHD astronomer be in this thread to tell me :x

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:42:55 2015 No.7602089 >The smallest stars are roughly 75 times more massive than Jupiter, and the largest planets are about 13 times more massive than Jupiter. What about anything between those sizes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 21:54:06 2015 No.7602118 >>7602089 you're confusing mass with size

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:25:12 2015 No.7602180 File: 30 KB, 188x209, 1342714165057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:48:26 2015 No.7602215 File: 109 KB, 250x382, every single time.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would we even get to know if this was intelligent life, or would governments force a cover-up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:49:11 2015 No.7602217 Do the aliens wear panties?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:49:44 2015 No.7602218 >>7601383 Best post in the thread tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 19 22:51:18 2015 No.7602222 >>7602215 implying it didn't already happen several times you don't really think pulsars are a real thing, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 00:05:05 2015 No.7602340 File: 98 KB, 600x500, 1441368452194.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7601383 Bro...

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:23:06 2015 No.7602553 >>7601383 when a stupid post creates excellent pasta. >that is where it is at

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 02:26:22 2015 No.7602557 >>7602222 spooky quads. nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:02:03 2015 No.7602620 >>7602089 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 03:33:06 2015 No.7602655 >>7600089 Reminder to everyone that even if the alien civilization has become extinct, that their alien artificial intelligence they developed will continue building Dyson spheres even if their original masters have long passed away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:15:22 2015 No.7602734 File: 93 KB, 800x600, 1361253457874.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7602655

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 05:49:37 2015 No.7602769 Did the artist finish Ai-chan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 07:34:50 2015 No.7602861 >>7602769 He's in a time zone that demanded he go to sleep. It will happen. You should start a new thread to keep her moving forward. I did the previous one, and promoted this one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 07:56:04 2015 No.7602883 >>7601375 >Build robot c that collects batteries from the dyson sphere Why batteries? If you're part of a race that builds dyson sphere you'll be living among the structure of the sphere itself as computational entities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 08:36:15 2015 No.7602955 >>7601587 >>7601581 Boring weaklings

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 09:05:49 2015 No.7602989 >>7601351 Rule 34 when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 09:27:14 2015 No.7603026 >>7601383 >the gorilla warfare of /sci/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 12:28:44 2015 No.7603340 new thread when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 12:44:07 2015 No.7603373 >>7601383 Certainly proves that some people just pull numbers and info out of their asses and pretend to be smart on /sci/. It's really irritating tbh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 12:44:31 2015 No.7603375 >>7603340 >>>7603245

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 12:48:19 2015 No.7603380 >>7601904 >Implying I'm from Alberta Don't be mad that Western Canada is sick of being fucked over by the East.

>>	Carbon Tue Oct 20 13:05:37 2015 No.7603419 >>7600089 >ufoholic >techtimes Truly legitimate sources Opie

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 13:11:04 2015 No.7603432 >>7600089 Whatever happened to that "warp drive" that /sci/ kept ranting and raving about however many months ago? This is like that. It will be forgotten, tbh

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 14:17:28 2015 No.7603589 File: 148 KB, 515x693, vjh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7603432 For 1500 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 15:03:37 2015 No.7603686 >>7600096 >WTF-001 That's real tasteful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 15:21:45 2015 No.7603717 >>7603686 The original paper was titled Where's The Flux, so they are saying it stands for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 17:52:42 2015 No.7604025 >>7601976 most likely, this. imagine what it would be like, having alien pen pals for hundreds of thousands of years before meeting each-other, judging each other from 1000s of lightyears away

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 18:29:15 2015 No.7604121 >>7601338 >~600AD >founding of arabic empire >largest religion until the european colonisation a millenium later >not noteworthy

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 20 18:34:10 2015 No.7604134 >>7602021 >Mayan city states and Teotihuacan >4 empires in sub-saharan africa

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