KIC 8462852

[Anonymous No.7591470]

No thread about the most infuriating /x/ - /sci/ crossover discovery of the year?

Ths star exhibited unique light dimming patterns. Planet ruled out. Young solar system formation ruled out. Dust cloud ruled out. Now more than one real astronomer has given the press the quote every click baiter loves: "This is what you expect an alien civilization to build."

First to break story:
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2015/10/the-most-interesting-star-in-our-galaxy/410023/

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28191-citizen-scientists-catch-cloud-of-comets-orbiting-distant-star/

[Anonymous No.7591481]

>we don't know
>aliens
ayy

lmao

[Anonymous No.7591484]

>>7591481
It's not just that we don't know, it's also that it happens to look a lot like what alien megastructures had been hypothesized to look like.

It's sort of like when pulsars were first discovered - they happened to look exactly like the radio beacons SETI was looking for at the time, so it was pretty fair to speculate they might be radio beacons.

Doesn't mean it's aliens; it just means that aliens are actually not a silly explanation.

[Anonymous No.7591488]

>>7591484
>aliens are actually not a silly explanation
wat

[Anonymous No.7591493]

>>7591470
>No thread about the most infuriating /x/ - /sci/ crossover discovery of the year?
>>7588580
>>7589792

Also, from one of those threads
>Researchers currently think the most likely explanation for the star's odd reduction in light is due to a large dust cloud of broken up comets orbiting the star elliptically

Fuck off to /x/ now

[Anonymous No.7591497]

its some object orbiting the star dammit. There is no signal or anything. it's blinking every 750 days, any signal interval thats coming from a civilization would be something like 10 minutes, or 10 hours, not 750 days.

[Anonymous No.7591498]

>>7591488
When you are starting with only ridiculously unlikely events [collisions between planets, etc.], adding another ridiculously unlikely event is not that much of a stretch.

[Anonymous No.7591520]

>>7591493
>comets
That would be enough comets to add up to the angular size of three Jupiters.

>That's a big Twinkie.

[Anonymous No.7591560]

I'm all for ayyliens and sincerely believe they exist and are here on Earth.

However, I think all the "holy crap we just saw a huge Quarian starship" hype is bullshit

[Anonymous No.7591583]

>>7591520

still much more likely than aliens

[Anonymous No.7591591]

>>7591470
>>>7591207
>>>7591334

[Anonymous No.7591595]

It's the Borg.

[Anonymous No.7591598]

>>7591497
the swarm takes 750 days to orbit and is mostly symmetrical

the dip is the asymmetrical part coming between us and the star

[Anonymous No.7591604]

>>7591583
Jupiter is pretty big, triple Jupiter is really fucking big.
That many comets would surely flatten out into a disc or something, thats a fucking fuckton of comets....a fucking fuckton.

[Anonymous No.7591633]

>>7591604
I know. I've been looking at models of our own Oort cloud, and you know, the more you stare at them, the more they kind of resemble a Dyson Swarm already. Even though it's just billions of rocks unlucky enough not to be in the planetary gravitational range.

So for the ay lmaos, it's the arrangement and the origin of them, rather than the quantity, that most presses for an explanation.

[Anonymous No.7591644]

>>7591633
Are you saying it's a really dense oort cloud?
That would make the irregularity of the dark spots a little more understandable.

[Anonymous No.7591654]

>>7591633
Do we know how far these comet dusts / megastructures are from the star?

[Anonymous No.7591657]

>>7591470

Looks like a large hollow planet being built around a star, impressive engineering to say the least.

[Anonymous No.7591668]

>>7591657
Yeah, I think that's how the press has over sold this. Imagine a bunch of 4channers on KIC 8462852 looking back at imagery of our solar system like >>7591633 and going "MGO ALIUMS ARE THOUSANDS OF GILIOLACHS AHEAD OF US IN TECHNOLOGY."

>>7591654
Not exactly, just that the periodicity supports that they are in orbit.

There is not much difference between a super computer model of a galactic pair collision and a pair of Ooort like clouds colliding. I hope these astronomers have a couple of grad ass's working on that.

[Anonymous No.7591677]

>>7591644
That's what the astronomer-fu said in a paper about the findings.

Something like pic related, but stars with Oort clouds instead of galaxies. The dynamics are very similar, but with the scale turned down about 5 orders of magnitude.

[Anonymous No.7591679]

>>7591677
She can party too. Like dogs. 5/10, would planet hunt with.

[Anonymous No.7591691]

Ringworld?

[Anonymous No.7591695]

I don't see why, being a dyson megastructure, it would be an incomplete one and block only 22% of light

>they are still building it

Meh explanation at best

[Anonymous No.7591703]

>>7591695
Why would they be building it?
Wouldn't they (at that level of intelligence) be able to make it self replicating?

[Anonymous No.7591713]

>>7591703
That's why I called it a meh explanation. People also think that the process would take millennia, and I really don't see why this should be the case

[Anonymous No.7591716]

I wonder if aliens have humor

[Anonymous No.7591735]

>>7591716
"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it. We picked up several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, and probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars?"

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in that sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

[Anonymous No.7591741]

>>7591735
"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take long. Do you have any idea what's the life span of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads, like the weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there's a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat! That's what I've been trying to tell you."

"So ... what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? You're refusing to deal with what I'm telling you. The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

[Anonymous No.7591744]

>>7591741
"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?"

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat."

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there. Anybody home.' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

[Anonymous No.7591747]

>>7591744
"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat, it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in this quadrant of the Universe, without prejudice, fear or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say? 'Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

[Anonymous No.7591750]

>>7591695
If they were already done with it by the time we see them, they must have had a incredible fast evolution.

>>7591713
>I really don't see why this should be the case
They need a shitload of material to build it and mining their entire solar system and maybe a second one should take some time.

[Anonymous No.7591751]

>>7591747
"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they can only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the Universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we marked the entire sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the Universe would be if one were all alone ..."

[Anonymous No.7591752]

My theory is they caught up something in interstellar space.
I mean transit times are about 3 days. If it was orbiting the star, it would be somewhere between 6 to 13 AU from its star. Barring the fact that you just wouldn't build a Tyson sphere there, the amount of matter required to produce a 20% dip in the light of the star at these distances is fucking unbelievably over 9000. We're talking a collection of objects the mass of a star that is dark and doesn't infrared. Where does a civilization find more material than in their parent star to build this?
Also keep in mind the event was not observed a second time. So nothing is telling us what we saw was actually orbiting the star.

[Anonymous No.7591756]

>>7591751
Nice

[Anonymous No.7591763]

>>7591751
Thanky you, I really liked that.

[Anonymous No.7591767]

>>7591750
Astronomer-fu (pictured here >>7591679) thinks the star captured another star's comet cloud. There is no reason that would rule out a Dyson structure being made out of those existing resources. It would be way easier than mining planets and lifting all that mass into space.

[Anonymous No.7591773]

>>7591756
>>7591763
Terry Bisson published that in Omni magazine in 1990. It's been reposted elsewhere many times, so I figure /sci/ should have a copy too.

[Anonymous No.7591777]

>>7591633
>ancient aliums spy at sol
>notice that there is a massive amount of objects surrounding it from 100,000 AU
>ayy lmaos immediately become frightened that a hyper advanced civilization lurks there
>galaxy-wide moratorium on making contact with or exploring that star system for fear of annihilation

[Anonymous No.7591805]

>this "discovery"
Just because you desperately want it to be aliens doesn't mean it's aliens.

[Anonymous No.7591815]

>>7591805
Please let us have some fun until it's too late.

[Anonymous No.7591820]

>>7591752
>Tyson sphere

[Anonymous No.7591829]

>be ayy lmao
>space radio picks something up
>comes from some star called "sol"
>check it out
>the whole fucking system is full of shit floating around
>tell the news
>tell the authorities
>tell everyone
>theories pop up everywhere
>goverment accepts a theorie saying all the shit floating around is a giant attack fleet
>their radio signals are labeled lure
>their system is labeled as extremly hostile
>noone allowed to use radio anywhere near them
>we even build a giant ass shield so they wont pick up our radio signals

[Anonymous No.7591836]

What if it's just a really, REALLY big sunspot that occurs on the sun's surface every while?

[Anonymous No.7591839]

>>7591829
>star called "sol"
I find it quite funny that there is probably some intergalactic government and our star is named something like "EM3-5743" and is designated lifeless barren wasteland.

[Anonymous No.7591842]

>>7591820
lol my hands betrayed me.

I'll add that if this is indeed something in interstellar space, it's more likely to be closer to us than this star.

>>7591836
I believe, the star rotates in less than a day. I kinda overlooked this part of the paper though so could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.7591846]

>>7591777
I remember a Schoolhouse Rock (or something, at any rate it was during Saturday cartoons) where the aliens in orbit were certain that automobiles were the dominant species and humans were some kind of benign parasitic infection that the perfectly orderly and superiorly intelligent autos just put up with - or kept as pets.

[Anonymous No.7591854]

>>7591752
>Also keep in mind the event was not observed a second time. So nothing is telling us what we saw was actually orbiting the star.
Really? Aww.

[Anonymous No.7591859]

>>7591854
The big dip in the graph 750 days earlier is way different. Also not consistent with transit time.

[deleted No.7591862]

>>7591829

stop you shits most old solar systems will have something similar to an oort cloud, I doubt the aliens wouldn't realise this.

[Anonymous No.7591864]

>>7591846
Found it. From 1966. It's Canadian. Nominated for an Oscar for best animated short.

http://www.nfb.ca/film/what_on_earth/

[deleted No.7591868]

>>7591859

what interests me the most is the dip that goes

v\/v kinda symmetry

[Anonymous No.7591870]

> 1481 light years away from earth
dude...

[Anonymous No.7591878]

>>7591829
>fast forward
>our FTL spyships come back from "earth"
>they found out about us
>they saw our shield
>entire planet in panic mode
>goverment blasts the shield out of our orbit
>use of radio is now illegal
>we try to play dead
>everyone is scared of earth's warlords coming to wreck our shit
>governent is constructing a giant deathray to destroy earth before they destroy us
>the entire population is fleeing from the planet
>only a handfull left
>I'm in my observatory
>turn on space radio for the last time
>receive signals from earth
>It's some shit they call "music"
>It's all over
>place my plasma rifle under my chin
>start sobbing
>pull the trigger
>fall on the ground as a bolt of plasma burns through my skull
>somehow I'm still a bit alife
>stillhear some shit from radio
>"get in the door"
>"get on the floor"
>"everybody do the dinosaur"
>fuggen earthlings

[deleted No.7591880]

>>7591868

the ones on the other side of the v\/v look like the same kind of object but at different levels of transit.

Not sure if they are the same object repeating orbit or TWO OBJECTS THAT HAPPEN TO HAVE THE EXACT SAME TRANSIT SIGNATURE on different orbits.

If that doesn't strike as artificial I don't know what does. What are the chances of a star having two planets with the exact same planet and planetoid?

[Anonymous No.7591893]

>Observing the phenomena 1,500ly away
>They probably completely their giant doom cannon right now
>and aiming it right at us

Despair for the end is nigh

[Anonymous No.7591895]

>>7591591
I got quoted, nice

[Anonymous No.7591903]

>>7591893
They may even already fired their doom canon.

[Anonymous No.7591904]

>>7591868
It's actually the most easily explainable thing in this clusterfuck.

Picture a planet passing ahead of the star disk. It has a pretty big moon that's ahead of it in it's orbit at this time. So the light is actually blocked by two objects.
Moon goes behind its planet, light is less blocked.
Planet proceeds to fully over star disk = big dip.
As it's going out, moon pops up behind it.

OR it could be 3 totally unrelated events.

[Anonymous No.7591908]

>>7591893
Whatever happened happened 1500 years ago. Everything is over and there is nothing for us to discover now.

[deleted No.7591925]

>>7591904

what do you the think of the dips on each side of the v\/v?

If they are not the same thing repeating it's orbit it would be extremely questionable that the signatures are so similar.

[Anonymous No.7591927]

>>7591695
Maybe they don't want to completely block out the visible light from their star, they want to be discoverable for whoever else might be looking for them, like us

[Anonymous No.7591929]

>>7591880
That's what has the real scientists on about this. It's not a planet. The star doesn't wobble the right way for this to be a point source of gravitational displacement. It has to be spread out over an area most of the star's diameter.

[Anonymous No.7591932]

its my peenus weenus of course!

hahaha! :D

my peenus weenus!

[deleted No.7591934]

>>7591929

IT BEGINS


no matter what there is going to be some very good discoveries from this star.

Another cool recent discovery was a small star with a solar system arranged very similarly to ours, but very compact, almost like a mini model of our solar system.

[Anonymous No.7591953]

>>7591925
They indeed look similar. The transit period is way shorter for the later though, and the amplitude of the dip in flux is less than half of the first one.
It's clearly not the same "object". If it was, the pattern would repeat every 50ish days anyway.

[Anonymous No.7591961]

>Researchers currently think the most likely explanation for the star's odd reduction in light is due to a large dust cloud of broken up comets orbiting the star elliptically

Wow it's fucking nothing.png

[Anonymous No.7591971]

>>7591961
ur moms fart cloud haha

[Anonymous No.7591977]

>>7591929
I do agree it's quite remarkable. But you can't rule out sheer coincidence. I'm sure someone will (or has already) come up with actual math to show how alike those two events are. It's beyond my laziness to actually do it myself.
I'd say I'll doubt the natural event theory if this is anywhere upside of 95%.

But it's odd, you know. The biggest object would be in higher orbit, which is fucking silly. Aliums could achieve the same effect by placing a smaller object closer to the star. So why would they bother. What's more, closer to the star means it's visible by more systems. So altogether a terrible idea.

[Anonymous No.7591979]

Can't it just be a really big planet?

[Anonymous No.7591988]

>>7591470
>No thread about the most infuriating /x/ - /sci/
are you retarded there's at least 3

[Anonymous No.7591989]

>>7591979
>I didn't even read a few lines about the subject but I'm already an expert

[Anonymous No.7591990]

>>7591977
wrong quote, was meant as a reply to
>>7591925

[Anonymous No.7591992]

>>7591979
A Jupiter sized object reduces the star's luminosity by like 1 or 2 percent. These things reduce it by 22%, so they must be massive.

[Anonymous No.7591994]

>>7591735
>>7591741
>>7591744
>>7591747
>>7591751
reddit-tier

[Anonymous No.7591996]

>>7591994
isn't it a tale from the 70s?

[Anonymous No.7591998]

>>7591996
trying too hard is a timeless phenomenon

[Anonymous No.7592000]

>>7591988
One is over-posted and the other had no searchable terms in its OP that overlapped with the obvious ones.

>>7591992
correct, which means that if it were a planet >>7591979 that big, there would be a gravitational wobble big enough to detect, and such a wobble is not there.

Also periodicity is all wrong for an orbiting planet.

[Anonymous No.7592002]

>>7591903
Best case scenario, they fired matter at relativistic speeds and would take much more than 1500 years to get here.

Worst case scenario, it was a construction yard for warp drive torpedoes, and they'll get here in a few moments.

[Anonymous No.7592003]

>>7591996
It's a short story published in Omni magazine in 1990.

>>7591994
20 years before reddit. Modem-geek and 286 tier.

[Anonymous No.7592006]

>>7591470
Daily reminder that we already had numerous Dyson Sphere candidates
http://home.fnal.gov/~carrigan/infrared_astronomy/Fermilab_search.htm
As noted on the Dyson Sphere look-alike page there are several natural surrogates that are difficult to rule out. Several cuts were used on the LRS sample to focus in on a Dyson Sphere signature. These included temperature, classification, and visual scans in SIMBAD. This led to a sample of 17 weak and ambiguous candidates..

[Anonymous No.7592008]

>>7591481
>when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

[Anonymous No.7592012]

>>7592000
Ok that's the clarification I needed, thank you

[Anonymous No.7592013]

>>7591932
underrated comment

[Anonymous No.7592019]

>a swarm of monoliths

It's happening.

[Anonymous No.7592020]

>>7591470
This whole fucking concept is b8. Dyson spheres are science fiction. Science fiction ignores the laws of physics to make a fictional story. You guys are clearly retards without stem degrees. Have fun fantasizing about building your own Millennium Falcon.

[Anonymous No.7592048]

>aliens are the least likely answer!!!!
>tons of asteroid dust that somehow left two intact pieces but also made of a bunch of different asteroids broken at the same time around a mature star with a small star around it is more likely

>number of times any of those things have been observed: 0
>BUT MUH ALIENS ARE LESS LIKELY

I swear, they try not to be sensationalist and they go too far the other way

[Anonymous No.7592051]

>>7592020
Freemon Dyson was not a fiction writer. The universe always looks small, young, homonidnormative and boring to stem types who count frogs in a state managed wetlands for a living.

Oh and SETI is calling it WTF-001, for What The Flux. Google to see I shit not.

[Anonymous No.7592064]

>>7592051
Biology doesn't count as science pleb.

[Anonymous No.7592066]

>>7591829

The star's ~1500 LY's aways. There was no radio 1500 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7592068]

>>7591829

The star's ~1500 LY's away. There was no radio 1500 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7592074]

Could the large dips in brightness be caused by an unknown asteroid in our solar system partially occluding the star every 750 days in some freak coincidence?

[Anonymous No.7592077]

>>7592048
The thing is, dust/asteroid belt was ruled out as a candidate because it nopes on infrared, which should be clearly measurable given the magnitude of the dimming.
We're having a hard time finding earth-sized planets around other stars. What makes you think 2 asteroids would be way more noticeable than that?
Also I don't understand the sequence of events you're trying to describe. What is it about a second star being thrown in there?

[deleted No.7592080]

>>7592074

it's theories like this that makes aliens seem the more plausible explanation for once.

if you can't see how ridiculously unlikely your idea is, you haven't grasped just how big space is.

[Anonymous No.7592081]

>>7592074
thats most likely what it is. something that crosses between earth and KIC that completes its circulation every 750 days

[Anonymous No.7592082]

>>7592077
there's a second star right next to WTF-001
check some of the most recent news

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/astronomy/its-either-aliens-or-a-swarm-of-comets-scientists-baffled-by-wtf-001-our-galaxys-strangest-star-20151014-gk9iwj.html

clearly moving a star to pull an asteroid belt around the main star, and then manufacture the dyson swarm

the sequence of events makes no sense, that's the point, that was the "dust" theory
a bunch of asteroids being broken at the same time, leaving two big pieces and a bunch of broken asteroid parts obscuring most of the sun

[Anonymous No.7592090]

>>7592081
Keppler's untimely death in 2013 means that this cannot be ruled out 100% but this is going to get a lot of new attention and it will be found to be something unexpected, but local to the star's gravitational influence.

[Anonymous No.7592092]

>>7592074
Totally impossible. Kepler doesn't into the solar system plane for obvious reason that there's shit there.

[Anonymous No.7592102]

>>7592080
>>7592092
That's why I said "freak coincidence".

My main concern is the lack of increased infrared emission. Something that big ought to reflect a sizable amount of photons from the star. Unless it's giant solar panels with ~100% efficiency.

[Anonymous No.7592104]

>>7592082
2 years is a huge interval. It can easily be one of the huge asteroids orbiting around and getting infront of the star. Any other alium explaination would be stretching it

[Anonymous No.7592107]

>>7592104
>It can easily be one of the huge asteroids orbiting around and getting infront of the star.
Jesus, read some more about the subject before you claim it's a big object

[Anonymous No.7592109]

>>7592107
You're a big object.

[Anonymous No.7592110]

>>7592102
Maybe it's an ayy lmao hole, which does not tend to emit many photons.

[Anonymous No.7592112]

>>7592109
for you

[Anonymous No.7592114]

>>7592110
>black hole orbiting a planet

please anon never get an astronomy degree

[Anonymous No.7592116]

>>7592102
Yeah, infrared is a dead giveaway in space.
We can actually still pick up the heat signature of the Voyager spacecrafts. And that's a very low amount of power. You have to know where to look though.

[Anonymous No.7592117]

>>7591994
It must be strange to try so hard to prove you're worthy of being on this anonymous imageboard

[Anonymous No.7592118]

I will not. tell me why it can't be an asteroid occluding the light

[Anonymous No.7592121]

>>7592114
>implying black holes can't orbit planets
I already have a bachelor in physics, so I know what I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.7592122]

>>7592118
see
>>7591992

[Anonymous No.7592124]

>>7592121
>physics is astronomy
http://niceme.me/

[Anonymous No.7592126]

>>7592122
oh okay. but %22 still isn't that much. The big dip interval is 2 years. For how long this dip has been observed ?

[Anonymous No.7592164]

>>7592114
>planet
I think he meant it's orbiting the sun and that could happen, right? If not, why not?

[Anonymous No.7592218]

>>7592164
>>7592114
A black hole can orbit a planet if it's mass is relatively small compared to the planet's. We know this not entirely impossible because a thing called the Schwarzschild radius exists.
Now there's no natural process that we know of that would produce a black hole of that exact caliber, meaning if there is a black hole with so little mass that it would orbit a planet, it just might be artificial.

[Anonymous No.7592219]

>>7592218
>>7592164
I meant black hole orbiting a sun, but even then it's extremely unlikely
and it's not just a big object, light dims unnaturally

[Anonymous No.7592220]

>>7592126
Unfortunately, 4 and 1/2 years only. So we can't confirm it's the same object(s).
I don't personally think they're the same because, first, the smooth pattern of the first one looks nothing like the second.
Second, 1520-793 = 727 day period. So we should have a dip on observation day 66ish, which we don't.
Orbiting bodies don't just change their orbital period like that.

22% is really a lot. You'd need a planet at least 11 time the slice area of jupiter in the same orbit to achieve that with the solar system. A planet this size is either a brown dwarf or a very young hot gas giant that expends its gas way out. Either way, big infrared emitters. Which was not detected at all.

[Anonymous No.7592247]

Reading all those threads has convinced me that the only reasonable conclusion is that we need more data to draw a conclusion.
Hopefully the hype around accelerate the process of getting observation time on big telescopes. But it should be quite a long wait as they're pretty packed already.

[Anonymous No.7592253]

>>7592218
Our KIC here is a F-type main-sequence star with not more than 1.5 sun masses, so we would need a impossible tiny black hole orbiting it becaus the star itself doesn't stagger, right?
What's the tiniest black hole anyway, around 5 sun masses?

[Anonymous No.7592257]

>>7592220
Wait, it happens once per 2 years and we observed it for 4 years total ? So we either saw it 2 or 3 times. It's not enough data to call it a pattern. Even if is or not the same thing, whats the big deal about the dip ? There is no implication of anything artificial here. %22 might be a lot but it can also easily be explained.

[Anonymous No.7592258]

I really hope it's not aliens because that's all everyone will talk about for at least months. I'm already exhausted by it and it hasn't even started yet.

>1500 ly away
Who the hell cares

[Anonymous No.7592263]

>>7592258
jesus christ anon kill yourself if you're so tired of life that alien discussion bores you

[Anonymous No.7592266]

Somewhat relevant question: I've read that a completely solid Dyson sphere/shell would be impossible because it would not orbit or be gravitationally bound to its star; the shell and star would drift apart and eventually collide.

How do physicists know this, given that we've never observed anything similar to a Dyson sphere before?

[Anonymous No.7592268]

>>7592263
> 1500 light years away
even if there is confirmed life, we will never ever ever ever meet them.

[Anonymous No.7592269]

>>7592263
Online's fine, but in person with normies there's no hope for it being any more than tedious especially when every conversation is about the same thing

[Anonymous No.7592271]

>>7592258
If they could create a Dyson swarm 3x the mass of jupiter 1500 years ago, don't you think it's possible they've explored other star systems, maybe in the direction of us?

Either way, shut the fuck up, idiot.

[Anonymous No.7592272]

>>7592268
we can still get radio waves from them passively

we ourselves are emitting random shit to the deep space all the time through satellite

[Anonymous No.7592275]

>>7592272
Doesn't the information degrade or corrupt ? I don't even understand how EM waves can travel without a medium

[Anonymous No.7592276]

>>7592268
Big energy collectors would imply big activity. If they were gearing up 1500+ years ago, we could get probes here any day of the week.

[Anonymous No.7592279]

>>7592275
EM waves are literally the only shit that can travel without a medium
light is an EM wave
radiation is an EM wave

it doesn't really degrade or corrupt that much, the problem is that it's dimmed massively, we'd need better radiotelescopes, SETI is going to try on January. I recommend installing Seti@home if you wanna help.

[Anonymous No.7592282]

>>7592279
>radiation is an EM wave
you should specify only gamma rays
alpha & beta are particles

[Anonymous No.7592286]

>>7592272
Still no point since communication would take 1500ish years each way

[Anonymous No.7592288]

>>7592282
I meant UV radiation
radiation is a very general term

[Anonymous No.7592292]

>>7592286
I'm not suggesting we communicate (though we should, in case we die in those 1500 years), I suggest we pirate their radio waves and see what they have to say, not to us, but to each other

[Anonymous No.7592293]

>>7592276
> Big energy collectors
what do you mean by that ?

>>7592279
Doesn't that mean EM waves are particles as well ? Also dimming implies the particles are slowing down for some reason, which means they have a range proportional to their energy intensity. It must be a pretty big star.

[Anonymous No.7592295]

>>7591994
reddit-tier is short snarky comments and puns and general trying to fit in

autistic faggot

[Anonymous No.7592298]

>>7592266
This would not make a Dyson shell impossible, just difficult. The drift would result in a very large issue if uncorrected, as a collision between the shell and the host star would obviously be catastrophic.

They know this because math. Inside the shell, gravitational forces would balance (assuming constant density). If the sun were closer to one side of the shell, it would pull harder on that side. However, because more of the shell is on the other side, it would pull more of the shell on the other side. The net result is balance, and any outside forces would induce drift that wouldn't be countered unless we included engines or some other solution.

[Anonymous No.7592301]

>>7592293
I think the dimming happens because a true vacuum doesn't exist in space
and yes, it means they're particles, but that's pretty much meaningless, it's better to say that they have particle qualities and wave qualities at the same time

[Anonymous No.7592302]

Meh. If aliens started building spheres1500 years ago we should also see them in other stars closer to us

[Anonymous No.7592305]

>>7592266
Something abut too much stress on the material and easily to disbalance. Would be too much work anyway, why should someone even try this?
A few small wheel-like structures orbiting the star would be way more practical and simpler to build.

[Anonymous No.7592306]

>>7592302
we didn't emit radio waves until like 200 years ago you retard, and they're 1500 light years away, how would they find us? space is fucking big

[AinzOoalGown No.7592307]

I think a Dyson sphere is obsolete for an advanced civilization; it's only a primitive way we imagined to harvest energy; you need to manage a lot of satellites and have bad energy reception with low efficiency.
Better ways are: high-tier nuclear fusion or ZPMs

[Anonymous No.7592310]

>>7592307
>high-tier nuclear fusion
you know, I think I know a cheaper way to manage that
what if we put a bunch of harvesters around a sun that's already going through nuclear fusio--OH SHIT

[Anonymous No.7592311]

>>7592306
Nice argument, especially the retard part.

[Anonymous No.7592314]

>>7592311
I actually gave you an argument though
space isn't 2D, and even if it was they'd have infinite other radiuses to check

[AinzOoalGown No.7592318]

>>7592310
nope, low temperature, modular and little size nuclear fusion is better and more scalable than sticking a lot of satellites around a star, also is portable; probably if aliens are around colonizing planets with spaceships they need to give power to these spaceships and there are only two ways:
1.a different source of energy than a Dyson Sphere/Swarm like Fusion or ZPMs
2.build a spaceship around a star and move it around

[Anonymous No.7592319]

>>7591904
>planet large enough to block 20% of the star's light output from 1500ly away.
yeah? yeah. yeahhhhhhh.

[Anonymous No.7592320]

>aliens
That's what they will say they are, but sane people know they are demons.

[Anonymous No.7592323]

>>7592318
I don't think you understand the amounts of energy a dyson sphere would give
more than a trillion little size nuclear fusers

[Anonymous No.7592324]

>>7592318
also, a dyson sphere is a double deal, it also removes solar radiation from our planet, which means less cancer, and more control over our temperature

[AinzOoalGown No.7592327]

>>7592323
I think in the future they will probably have portable miniaturized stars

It's impractical to have a Dyson, there are a lot of comets and meteorites crashing on the stars and solar flares could destroy it

[Anonymous No.7592328]

>>7592327
>I think in the future they will probably have portable miniaturized stars
I believe you, however that's more advanced technology than a dyson swarm, so your original argument makes no sense

>here are a lot of comets and meteorites crashing on the stars and solar flares could destroy it
the dyson swarm is relatively far away from the star
no idea about your second point but I think magnetic field keeps most of them away

[Anonymous No.7592331]

>>7592328
shit, I got the points backwards, you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.7592332]

>>7592307
I agree, but it's also about living space. A big sphere all around a star is too much, though.

[AinzOoalGown No.7592333]

>>7592328
also I think the time you need to build a Dyson sphere it's too big, and it will become obsolete in the meantime

remember that technology increases exponentially

[Anonymous No.7592336]

>>7592314
Who talked about them finding us? If they have the technology to build whatever that thing is, why don't we see similar things happening to other stars near them? Unless they just completed building one or they are still building their first thingy ever just as soon as we have the technology to observe it, which is quite unlikely.

[Anonymous No.7592340]

>>7592319
I was talking about the lower event centered at day 1540 which is about 3% blocked light

[Anonymous No.7592342]

This is the stupidest thing. Couldn't possibly be aliens here's why,

Logically if they could create a Dyson sphere over their sun they would have uncomprehensible technology.

Therefore they would have way better telescopes than Kepler.

Therefore Sol would stick out like a sore thumb because Sol is the only known sun we know of that has 8 planets 7 of which have considerable mass.

Therefore they would have the technology to observe our planets and they definitely would have the technology to send at least a probe if not a complete colonization group to our solar system.

Therefore they would be here by now.

Therefore it's just fucking dust you aluminum foil hat wearing morons.

[Anonymous No.7592346]

>>7592293
>what do you mean by that ?
The whole mega-construction premise is that you'd want to put bigass solar arrays around your star.

>>7592306
If they're chemically similar to us they wouldn't need to spot us to find our planet interesting.

[Anonymous No.7592348]

>>7591904
>jupiter object only blocks a small percent of parent star's light
>these objects block about 20% of their parent star
>keeps calling them planets.
Come on. I mean even sizable clouds radiate detectable light. For it to be a planet, it has to be gar-fucking-gantuan.

[AinzOoalGown No.7592353]

>>7592342
that is a valid argument, having the technology to build a Dyson sphere means that you have kilo-metric telescopes

if with out technology we can "see" a Dyson sphere this means that they could see your house right now

[Anonymous No.7592356]

>>7592333
well programmed self-replicating nanotechnology makes it trivial

>>7592336
>why don't we see similar things happening to other stars near them?
by the time when you need a second dyson swarm, you've already outlasted the technology

>>7592346
they can't see our planet, just as we can't see any planets in the WTF-001 system
we found their star
our star is boring

[Anonymous No.7592359]

>>7592342
>Logically if they could create a Dyson sphere over their sun they would have uncomprehensible technology.
Mostly they'd just need to have decent robotics and time.

>Therefore Sol would stick out like a sore thumb because Sol is the only known sun we know of that has 8 planets 7 of which have considerable mass.
That's a result of selection bias in the ways we detect exoplanets, not because our system is special.

[Anonymous No.7592362]

>>7591971
a foort cloud

[Anonymous No.7592365]

>>7592348
same as >>7592319

also see my post here>>7592220

[Anonymous No.7592366]

>>7592342
our planet is 1500 light years from this star.
So what happens if they decide to check us out?
>we still have wars with ourselves
>can't even effectively utilize our own star for energy
>Can't even land on another planet, let alone our own moon
We don't matter in the universe.

[Anonymous No.7592374]

>>7592342
>Therefore they would be here by now.
they already came, that's why the pyramids look like their constellation

[Anonymous No.7592375]

>>7591735
>>7591741
>>7591744
>>7591747
>>7591750
>>7591751
Wouldn't we be more like water? intelligent life forms based on water?

Not meat?

[AinzOoalGown No.7592379]

>>7592356
good idea, self-replicating nanotechnologies could make a Dyson sphere cheap but there is a problem, EMP waves from the star are common

[Anonymous No.7592381]

>>7592366
>discuss Dyson spheres while we can't even get our ass up and build a propper space station because we have to invest into muh wars
Humanity is dissapointing.

[Anonymous No.7592382]

>>7592356
>they can't see our planet, just as we can't see any planets in the WTF-001 system
We've detected atmospheres in more distant systems already.

[Anonymous No.7592384]

>>7592340
that makes more sense by far, still would be a huge planet but it's far more reasonable

[Anonymous No.7592385]

>>7592382
distance is not the only factor, and someone who builds a dyson sphere is most likely checking the stars they can reach and not wasting time in distant ones

[AinzOoalGown No.7592390]

>>7592382

[Anonymous No.7592392]

>>7592385
Someone who builds a dyson sphere knows they're about to be naked to the universe and had better take a good look around

[AinzOoalGown No.7592398]

>>7592392
that is an interesting idea, a Dyson sphere is disadvantageous because everyone knows your position using a good telescope

but there could be a high-tier stealth technology

[Anonymous No.7592401]

>>7591668
>> periodicity

But anon, there is no periodicity over the range of data we have for it.

If that crazy pattern of light spikes is caused by something orbitting then that something must be in a very large orbit, otherwise we would seen it again. The orbit would probably be on the order of that of jupiters.

This does not make sense for a dyson sphere,, where you want to be as close to the sun as possible

[Anonymous No.7592405]

NASA WILL MAKE BLAME REAL

[Anonymous No.7592414]

>>7591470
the paper BTW
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622v1.pdf

Nothing in it invokes aliens

5 SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS:
Our most promising theory invokes a family of exocomets.
One way we imagine such a barrage of comets could be triggered
is by the passage of a field star through the system. And, in fact,
as discussed above, there is a small star nearby (∼ 1000 AU; Section
2.3) which, if moving near to KIC 8462852, but not bound to
it, could trigger a barrage of bodies into the vicinity of the host
star. On the other hand, if the companion star is bound, it could
be pumping up comet eccentricities through the Kozai mechanism.
Measuring the motion/orbit of the companion star with respect to
KIC 8462852 would be telling in whether or not it is associated, and
we would then be able to put stricter predictions on the timescale
and repeatability of comet showers based on bound or unbound
star-comet perturbing models. Finally, comets would release gas
(as well as dust), and sensitive observations to detect this gas would
also test this hypothesis.

[Anonymous No.7592415]

why would any kind of civilization need a dyson sphere anyway?
with our technological development, there is a trend of things taking less energy for the same processes over time.

also there is a clear trend towards VR, so hypothetical aliens would probably be spending most of their time in some kind of VR. seems to me such a state could already be achieved w/o any need to harvest much more ressources than we are already getting now. what would you even be doing with a billion billion times the energy? how would it be stored/transmitted?

someone pls explain to me why a dyson sphere would be needed in the first place, except maybe to build up enough energy for interstellar travel

[Anonymous No.7592420]

>>7592414
That's because they're publishing the aliens hypothesis in its own paper.

[Anonymous No.7592422]

>>7592415
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.7592423]

>>7591633
How comparable is the radius from the sun to the Oort cloud to the radius from an atomic nucleus to the electron cloud?

[Anonymous No.7592425]

>>7592405
That looks so fuckin sexy. Although I think the heat and radiation echoing going inside the sphere will change the atmosphere of the solar system. Also we would be blocking most of the vision from outer space so no more watching stars or other planets.

[Anonymous No.7592426]

>>7591470
What discovery? that thing is most likely long gone and whatever aliens that might be there are either dead or don't know we exist.

[AinzOoalGown No.7592428]

>>7592415
exactly my point,

also you guys should read the sci-fi novel "Diaspora" from Greg Egan, it explains why a Dyson Sphere is impractical

[Anonymous No.7592436]

>>7592405
This is how the forerunners in the Halo universe lived. But then a halo ring decimated the population and destroyed almost half of the thing.

[Anonymous No.7592438]

Why not just build little wheels with protected cities and farms on the inside and solar panels on the outside? Make sure they get some structure to defend themselfs against asteroids, equipp them with nuklear power plants and engines and if their star is about to die they could simply send them out to find a new one.

[AinzOoalGown No.7592449]

>>7592438
this is similar to one of the ideas in "Diaspora"

[Anonymous No.7592452]

>>7592414
Thank you.
But please let us have some fun anyway.

[Anonymous No.7592454]

>>7592438
THE RINGWORLD IS UNSTABLE

[Anonymous No.7592466]

>>7592398
>>7592392

But the benefits might outweigh the costs. Sure, a civilization with a functioning Dyson Sphere will obviously be a huge target...but a damn hard target that is. Any civilization with that kind of resources will have access to near unlimited military industrial might. When you prove the ability to rip apart entire solar systems for raw material and harvest the entire energy output of a star, no one, I mean no one will be able to keep up. A civilization with a Dyson Sphere will be able to churn out endless fleets of troops and warships. Game over man, game over.

Or they are just trying to build the Halo arrays.

[Anonymous No.7592467]

>>7592466
>still lost to a bug
>not only lost, but brought with them 90% of the galaxy's living inhabitants
>all powerful
lol

[Anonymous No.7592468]

>>7592405
There is not enough matter in the solar system to make such a thing. If we did indeed make such a thing, it would probably collapse into a black hole

[AinzOoalGown No.7592471]

>>7592466
A Dyson sphere is only a Type II Kardašëv scale civilization, but imagining it isn't their first Dyson Sphere they could be Type III, there could be a lot of civilizations > Type III that can easily destroy a civilization with a Dyson Sphere

[Anonymous No.7592475]

>>7592454
WHY? It doesn't even have to be big ones, maybe just a little bigger than the space station in 2001, please someone tell me we could do this.

[Anonymous No.7592484]

>>7592475
I was referencing a meme that was made 20 years before I was born, I don't know what I was expecting

[Anonymous No.7592485]

>>7591598
The fuck do you get that number of 750?

[AinzOoalGown No.7592490]

>>7592454
this is interesting
http://larryniven.net/physics/img13.shtml

[Anonymous No.7592492]

>>7591864
Cool beans, thanks for the link

[Anonymous No.7592493]

>>7592484
Oh, you meant THE ringworld. I might have to read that sometime.

[Anonymous No.7592494]

>comets
The articles I read said that it's still an extremely unlikely scenario

[Anonymous No.7592496]

>>7592493
I haven't actually read it, in fact I don't know how I remember that meme in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7592498]

>>7592494
it's never been observed before, just like aliens
they're both incredibly unlikely, but equally so

also it's not like they're contradicting each other, ayyliens might have moved the comets on purpose by moving a sun so they could have the material already there for the swarm

[Anonymous No.7592516]

>>7592475
If you are talking about space colonies like O'neil cylinders, those are possible. If you are talking about a giant ring around an astronomical body, that is not currently possible

[Anonymous No.7592527]

Maybe the weird objects are the ayylmaos?

[Anonymous No.7592533]

>>7592415

When you bring out the spheres, chances are you are in really deep in experimenting with Dark Matter and/or Black Holes.

[Anonymous No.7592535]

>>7591691
It's unstable.

[Anonymous No.7592558]

>be ayy lmao
>peacefully build a fucking sphere
>suddenly your sensors picks up lots of noise from the area around Sol
>eureka, intelligent life
>but wait a minute
>they are shitposters on a somalian imagefloor site
>build a sphere around them instead, saving all other lifeforms in the universe from rare pepes and memes

[Anonymous No.7592589]

>>7591470
>/x/
How in the flying fuck are extraterrestrials paranormal ?

[Anonymous No.7592597]

>>7592589
Depends on the kind of alien.
Little grey men with flying saucers abducting rural drug addicts sure is /x/.

[Anonymous No.7592600]

>>7591520

and it's somehow more likely that some civilization came up with a method of propulsion to put three jupiters into orbit? you do realize the logistics are of astronomical proportions (lol pun)

[Anonymous No.7592609]

>>7592597
But we're talking about an hypothetical extraterrestrial civilisation building hypothetical megastructures here.
It doesn't belong on /x/, those fags believe in homeopathy for fuck's sake !

[Anonymous No.7592614]

What if instead of waiting for the slowass speed of light to try to communicate why don't we just fly up there like we did in the 60/70's?

[Anonymous No.7592615]

>>7592589
extrayylmaos are just a theory (a gauss) so any further discussion about their existence is based solely on conjecture and fantasies, which science does not partake in.

[Anonymous No.7592660]

>>7591488

Aliens stopped being silly years ago.

[Anonymous No.7592664]

Anyone else find the wikipedia page for this hilarious? Just today somebody added links to pages on 'Argument from ignorance' and 'God of the gaps'. Are they even hiding the fact that they don't want us to know about it?

[Anonymous No.7592669]

>>7592614
That would be rad but since it's 36 billion times farther away than the moon we'll need to raise some money first.

[Anonymous No.7592674]

>>7592342

Holy shit, Sol is special for us because we still can't detect exoplanets well you idiot.

A bunch of planets in almost every system can be the norm.

[Anonymous No.7592678]

>>7592664

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:KIC_8462852

Wow, you aren't kidding. Someone wants to put this in the paranormal category.

[Anonymous No.7592684]

>>7592320
Shyamalan pls go

[Anonymous No.7592690]

>>7592342
Shut the fuck up, idiot.

[Anonymous No.7592696]

This is probably the biggest discovery in recent years.

[Anonymous No.7592714]

It's just debris from a collision.

Look inside yourself, you know it's true.

[Anonymous No.7592719]

I don't even care if they're hostile or not at this point, just something to make this boring fucking life a little more interesting. I'm so tired of being alive in this current world.

[Anonymous No.7592721]

>>7592714

Debris covering this much of a sun? No way.

[Anonymous No.7592730]

>>7592714
The scientists working on this shit already deemed all explanations impossible except for the "comets coming from the other star nearby" theory and ayylmaos.

[Anonymous No.7592737]

>>7592730

And you know they are overselling for attention and wrong.

Again...look deep inside and be honest with yourself. You know you probably believe it to be instrumental more than you believe it to be Ayyyyy's.

[Anonymous No.7592740]

>>7592721

It's a Bane size collision.

Crazy things happen.

Your /x/ tier masturbatory sci-fi fantasies do not.

[Anonymous No.7592745]

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried to imagine what kind of shapes could result in these light curves?

[Anonymous No.7592752]

>>7591751
I thought humans were talking about aliens, but the humans are the meat!

What a tweest

[Anonymous No.7592753]

>>7592740
Except a collision so colossal would emit a fuckload of infrared light which they didn't detect at all.
Fucking read about the thing before posting pls.

[Anonymous No.7592758]

>>7592740

Alien life is masturbatory fantasy?

When we have like 6 places with liquid water in one tiny solar system?

[Anonymous No.7592759]

>>7592745

Impossible to tell with current tech and that distance.

[Anonymous No.7592764]

>>7592753

You read about it. Every assertion regarding an Alien mega-structure is wild assumptions, with it not even being put forward as the most likely explanation.

>>7592758

Oh look, more pop-pseudo-science.

Yes, the dyson sphere concept in this case is fucking stupid and belongs on /x/.

[Anonymous No.7592768]

>>7592745
fisures in the fabric of reality not yet mapped since space if growing and objects moving within it but large gravitational influences from black holes collide with other ones and warp space and light is diverted.

[Anonymous No.7592786]

>>7592745
Something really big, non-spherical structure rotating?

[Anonymous No.7592792]

>>7592764
This is not exactly just another case of "we don't know so it must be aliens".
What they observed is very much what a partial Dyson sphere would look like, the scientists working on it didn't call it the WTF star for nothing.

[Anonymous No.7592805]

>>7592764
>look at all these demon-haunted plebs
>inherently, fundamentally popular science
>god I'm so hardheaded
>de-stroyed (logically)
>fuck the researchers, they're drinking pop

[Anonymous No.7593079]

>>7592307
>it's only a primitive way we imagined to harvest energy; you need to manage a lot of satellites and have bad energy reception with low efficiency.

Yeah, if you're not a highly advanced civilization. I think any negatives that we experience with such devices have been modified and improved by someone like advanced ayylimos

[Anonymous No.7593084]

>>7592466
>Trying to build Halos

For wha-OH SHIT THE FLOOD IS COMING BRACE YOURSELVES.

[Anonymous No.7593086]

>>7592740
If they proved you wrong, would you die?

[Anonymous No.7593102]

>>7593086
It would be exshtremely embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.7593240]

>>7591470
>Planet ruled out.
>Young solar system formation ruled out.
>Dust cloud ruled out.
... therefore ALIENS

[Anonymous No.7593287]

>>7592615

>science does not partake in

laughingpostempyricals.jpg

[Anonymous No.7593397]

>>7593102
Did you just take a Sean Connery tone with us?

[Anonymous No.7593402]

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/

install this and leave it running until february and there'll be a chance you get credited with finding ayyliens

[Anonymous No.7593405]

we came from here, they've just forgotten us.

[Anonymous No.7593441]

>>7591979
For you

[Anonymous No.7593471]

>>7591903
>Be aliens
>Monitor every part of space within a 2000 light year radius
>There's a planet with some life form that is starting to become advanced on the radar
>Fire weapon at them
>2000 years passes, they are now finally almost ready to explore space in their spaceships
>Planet gets destroyed

>Nobody has the chance to evolve to our level and threaten our existence

>Mfw we are that life form.

[Anonymous No.7593473]

>>7593471
Are you Israeli or something ? Thinking anything thats grows stronger than you is out to get your ass.

[Anonymous No.7593480]

>>7593473
I don't actually think that.
It's a thought experiment.

[Anonymous No.7593482]

>>7593480
Why can't you just get along ?

[Anonymous No.7593486]

>>7593482
Excuse me?

[Anonymous No.7593489]

>>7593486
Why can't all civilizations just advance in peace ? Your fear of being attacked by a stronger civilization is whats causing the hostility. One more mindset like yours in another planet and wars begin. It's people like you who the problem is that thinks the worse of unknowns

[Anonymous No.7593490]

The Aliens are waiting for us. As soon we find "life" they will send us a message. My guess they know we're here and they're waiting for us to get the capability to communicate/travel. Its probably like the prime directive from star trek.

[Anonymous No.7593496]

>>7593489
>Your fear
You sound pretty fearful yourself. Sure you aren't projecting?
What I wrote was just a thought experiment as I said. I'm not fearful.

[Anonymous No.7593498]

Whoever posted the Cygus pics in the last thread is sort of on point. There was a tribe I believe in Tunisia or Libya 1000 years ago who pointed to the guy that aliens came from there. The star they pointed was big and home to life. It was I believe Sirius, or Betelgeuse. I can't remember the story really well.

[Anonymous No.7593502]

The guy that started this project to look for Dyson Sphere around the universe was recently fired from his job.

[Anonymous No.7593504]

>>7593496
Yes you are. You didn't say "hey, maybe they're peaceful and nice". You didn't say "maybe they want to work with us so we can mutually benefit each other". You wen't chickenshit scared and said "Let's destroy their planet so nobody has the chance to evolve to our level and threaten our existence"

I'm not sure if you meant that for us or for them but even assuming something like this about a civilization that you don't even know is nothing more than your fear talking.

[Anonymous No.7593535]

>>7592690
Shut the fuck up, idiot.

[Anonymous No.7593549]

>>7593504
Not sure if you're autistic, retarded or a troll. As I said, it's a thought experiment.

Saw you posting in another thread too. You're obsessed.

[Anonymous No.7593555]

>scientists figure out instant REM sleep
>scientists find alien civilization
>scientists still pretend ceres is not a map
>scientists get pluto in high res
>scientists still pretend EM drive doesn't work

2015, best year for science

[Anonymous No.7593558]

>>7592342
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
Jumping to conclusions about aliens is retarded, but your post is even more retarded.

[Anonymous No.7593564]

>>7593549
Your thought experiment does not even include contacting them or understanding their intentions. You just said lets destroy them because they might be a threat.

So yeah, you are a schizophrenic pussy.

[Anonymous No.7593569]

>>7593482
>>7593489
>>7593504
>this autism
I would run away if I saw you on the street.

[Anonymous No.7593570]

>>7593569
shitpost elsewhere with your ad-hominems.

[Anonymous No.7593571]

>>7593569
>I would run away if I saw you on the street.
Autism: The post.

[Anonymous No.7593573]

>>7593564
You are schizophrenic. I literally said none of that.
Your brain isn't functioning correctly. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.7593579]

>>7593573
> bla bla bla i didn't say any of that
> even though you can roll up and read my post and confirm that i did say it
amazing shitpost bro. pls go away

[Anonymous No.7593580]

1400 light years.

So they won't learn about us for 1300 more years.

[Anonymous No.7593583]

>>7593579
Please. Go ahead. Show me where I said that. Oh wait, you can't. Because I didn't. You're insane in your head you fucking schizo freak.

[Anonymous No.7593588]

Why isn't this all over the news?

[Anonymous No.7593592]

>>7593471
see : >>7593583

>Be aliens
>Monitor every part of space within a 2000 light year radius
>There's a planet with some life form that is starting to become advanced on the radar
>Fire weapon at them
>2000 years passes, they are now finally almost ready to explore space in their spaceships
>Planet gets destroyed

>Nobody has the chance to evolve to our level and threaten our existence

>Mfw we are that life form.

Only a schizophrenic retard like yourself would come up with something so stupid.

[Anonymous No.7593594]

>>7593592
You still haven't shown me. Try again.

[Anonymous No.7593597]

>>7593594
> I can't read my own post.
Let me guess, you were only acting like a retard.

[Anonymous No.7593602]

>>7593597
You don't understand English. That is the problem.

[Anonymous No.7593604]

>>7593602
stop shitposting already. it's okay if you are autistic enough not to admit you've made a mistake, but stop shitting up the board.

[Anonymous No.7593607]

>>7593604
Hey, I'm only responding to your shitposts. What can you do. I'll continue until you realize what a useless failure you are and kill yourself. ;^)

[Anonymous No.7593609]

>>7593607
> look mom im trolling on the interwebz :^D

[Anonymous No.7593618]

>>7591470
I know this might be /x/ tier but ... whatever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ7RaOMHb5I
NEVER FORGET!

[Anonymous No.7593620]

Send a message to KIC 8462852 in year 2015.

Receive a reply from aliens in year 4975.

[Anonymous No.7593624]

>>7593620
Hi I am Mega. Hi am from KIC 8462852.

Your radio signal is cute. Many many cute data. I am look your signal for many many time, but I no understando all.

What you talk? What is the favorite discussion you say please?

Sorry for my question. Bye bye Sol III.

Mega

[Anonymous No.7593626]

>>7593588
Not much reason for that right now. If they point the Very Large Array at it next year and find something that looks like artificial signals, then it will either get covered up or make the front page.

[Anonymous No.7593632]

>>7593624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrZRIW87eWI
Here is the decoded message ayylmao friend.

[Anonymous No.7593633]

>>7593609
Babbys first troll
>Shit I am stumped, I can't figure out how to respond because my brain is a hot load of diarrhea and I'm a unintelligent loser, so this is what I came up with

All joking aside, you suck at science and trolling, I hope you really kill yourself. We all do. Including your mother. Die.

[Anonymous No.7593635]

>>7593633
> I'm the only one desperately shitposting so I look more retarded
> we all hate u
sad...do you and your imaginary friends come here often ?

[Anonymous No.7593638]

>>7593635
Keep posting, I'll keep telling you to kill yourself.
Die.

[Anonymous No.7593646]

>>7593638
> the only thing i know is spamming which is against the rules for being retarded and immature like me
Thanks for letting us know. Wow, that was easy.

[Anonymous No.7593650]

>>7593646
Btw, I don't respond becauseI don't enjoy your company.
I enjoy making the world a better place.
I would gladly chop your head off.

[Anonymous No.7593656]

>>7593650
> I enjoy making the world a better place.
> thats why i relentlessly shitpost
> Oh, also lets kill all those aliens just in case.
ahahahahhaa

[Anonymous No.7593659]

>>7593656
An inferior mind stuck on repeat. :^)

[Anonymous No.7593663]

>>7593659
> I'll keep telling you to kill yourself.
> An inferior mind stuck on repeat. :^)
You definitely are...sad.

[Anonymous No.7593670]

>>7593663
I'll leave yourself to your lonely sadness and your failed life. And tell you in the only language you understand, repetition: Die.

[Anonymous No.7593676]

Could anyone explain how the nearby small star could send asteroids to this sun from its oort cloud? Are both stars inside the cloud?

[Anonymous No.7593678]

>>7593670
> imitating the opponent
didn't you could go that pathetic but i'm glad you're finally leaving which you should have done 5 posts ago. bye :^)

[Anonymous No.7593683]

>>7593632
ayy

[Anonymous No.7593690]

>>7593678
>Your inferior mind thinks I'm going.
Lawl.
I'm glad you were glad though. That means it's working.
Die, shitbrain :)

[Anonymous No.7593698]

>>7593690
> can't leave coz im still butthurt
lol, calm down kid

[Anonymous No.7593707]

>>7593698
Projecting again, I see.
Want a bandaid for your butt? Too bad.
I'll give you a knife instead so you can fillet your asshole.

[Anonymous No.7593713]

>>7593707
> still resorting to imitate opponent.
i don't even have to do anything at this point. you're just drowning in your autism.

[Anonymous No.7593714]

>>7593698
>>7593707
kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.7593715]

>>7593713
You never did anything of value to begin with poor little autist child.

[Anonymous No.7593719]

>>7593715
neither of you are of any value to society

[Anonymous No.7593727]

>>7593719
Ohh, kitten got claws. First I've seen from you. Must mean you're really starting to get butthurt. I'm owning you hard. HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.7593739]

Can the mods delete this autistic spam? These two guys fucked up a decent thread

[Anonymous No.7593740]

/sci/ confirmed most genuinely autistic board

Not like it's a surprise to anyone

[Anonymous No.7593742]

>>7591456
Quantum computing.>>7593502
No he wasn't wtf are you pulling out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.7593748]

>>7593739
To be fair it wasn't a decent thread. It's a bunch of people interpreting the facts in a way to fit their alium fantasies even though it's clearly not aliums

[Anonymous No.7593764]

>>7593740
Except those who are regulars to the board. They treated as the mecca of intellectualism on internet.

[Anonymous No.7593777]

>>7593748
scientists don't know what the fuck it is kiddo

[Anonymous No.7593779]

>>7593748
You mean its not Ayy lmao? Jeez I was hoping for an ayy lmao invasion.

[Anonymous No.7593801]

>>7592342
ayylmao detected

[Anonymous No.7593804]

>tfw space exploration gets boring after relativity

[Anonymous No.7593813]

Ugh, I knew once this news hits mainstream, a flock of retards would soon follow.

When something gets popular, it gets turned to shit.

[Anonymous No.7593822]

>>7593804
The forever war highlights relativity in a negative matter. Leave Earth in 1999 as a young guy, and come back as a young guy in 2999. Fucking learning relativity and then space travel becomes a mental burden. All your love ones and friends are dead by the time you come back, and their decedents are all dead as well.

[Anonymous No.7593922]

>>7592333
Technology has a physical limit, which we will hit in the next 50-70 years. You can't make processors denser and denser without quantum fluctuations destroying all your means to computate. There's also limits to the amount of data you can save. Even quantum computers have these limits.

[Anonymous No.7593939]

>>7593922

What is the theoretical maximum information/volume?

[Anonymous No.7593942]

>>7593939
The schwarzshield radius of a black hole contains the maximum entropy. But you can't exactly extract informations out of black holes.

[Anonymous No.7593946]

>>7593748
>even though it's clearly not aliums

Yeah, sure.

[Anonymous No.7593951]

>>7593942
I'm obviously talking about

>There's also limits to the amount of data you can save. Even quantum computers have these limits.

Care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.7593964]

>>7593951
If you put electrons too close together, they will be tunneling and hence the hard drive will be useless for saving data. And quantum computers are extremely hard to manage and also suffer from interferences and quantum tunneling effects.

[Anonymous No.7593966]

>>7593964
I know all this, you said there are limits,

what are those limits?

[Anonymous No.7593980]

>>7593966
Probably a 200 TB the size of an usb stick and the processing power of 10^14 human brains.

[Anonymous No.7594008]

>>7591470
>dipshit conspiracy theorist coworker: "yeah, the comets thing is just the official answer, they know it's aliens"
>look into it
>the official answer is that it's probably not either, but hang on while we do the paperwork to use a bigger telescope

[Anonymous No.7594093]

>>7591864
>>7591846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IinxfgwR0w

[Anonymous No.7594096]

>>7591497

this could be explained by time dilations though

[Anonymous No.7594118]

>be an advanced civilization
>build a Dyson ring with holes size of a planet each to flash "ayy lmao" in binary to distant stars
>ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.7594142]

>>7594118
>tfw it's a massive Galactachan server

[Anonymous No.7594222]

>>7593397
That's a heavy accent.

[Anonymous No.7594235]

>>7593922
>Technology has a physical limit

I'm sure they said the same back in ancient Greece.

[Anonymous No.7594450]

>>7594222
for u

[Anonymous No.7594854]

You know, that's like what.
1/4th the size of the sun blocking this planet's light.
And we don't even know what it is at the moment?

My money is on fluctuations with the oort clouds of companion stars.
The Sun's oort cloud apparently extends into other star's probably oort clouds. So there has to be some mashing going on there.

[Anonymous No.7595333]

>mfw it turns out that ayy lmaos capable of megastructures and ftl travel look exactly like pepe