ayy lmao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852

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Anonymous Wed Oct 14 09:51:25 2015 No.7588580 [Reply] [Original]

ayy lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:09:15 2015 No.7588684 >>7588580 AYY

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:20:59 2015 No.7588699 File: 1.55 MB, 400x286, 1441316407991.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ayy dayyson

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:33:20 2015 No.7588717 Are those really ayylians?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:36:37 2015 No.7588722 >>7588717 We dunno, but it's the first time since pulsars that "ayy lmaos" has actually been among the most plausible hypotheses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:49:02 2015 No.7588744 ples jebus leb ib be alibems

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>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 11:58:51 2015 No.7588761 >>7588580 Å Ÿ Ÿ Ł M Å O

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:31:47 2015 No.7588824 >>7588580 this picture makes Clover crash

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 12:38:49 2015 No.7588840 File: 34 KB, 600x421, 1444775934793.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can only hope it's intelligent life that is advanced and non-hostile. please for the love of all that is existence let first contact be successfully made before I hit 40

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:06:42 2015 No.7588892

>>7588580
I must admit that this does look exactly like what we'd expect an ETI-caused light signature to look like, but I still urge a reasonable skepticism and doubt so we don't look too silly.

We've seen weird, inexplicable things before, like LGM-1 ("Little Green Men"), which looked exactly like the interstellar radio beacons SETI was searching for but which turned out to be a new type of stellar object - a pulsar. The unintelligent universe of natural laws is complicated and weird and often throws things at us that we did not expect.

And if it is a Dyson swarm or other megastructure, why would their orbits be so irregular and its bodies so large and oddly shaped?

Also, the comet hypothesis would still have to be ruled out - further observation is required. And it could still be some natural cause we haven't thought of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:13:51 2015 No.7588906 >>7588892 Why not dyson spheres? >could they be dark matter?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:18:02 2015 No.7588912

>>7588906
No, Dyson spheres could not be dark matter, because the laws of thermodynamics require that Dyson spheres still radiate some heat, and there have been many previous searches for Dyson sphere signatures (unusually dark in the visible spectrum but bright in the infrared) that have turned up no strong candidates.

Also solid Dyson spheres are gravitationally unstable and structurally implausible. Even Dyson envisioned a Dyson sphere as a swarm of orbiting satellites.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:36:10 2015 No.7588941

>>7588892
Just because the dips are irregular doesn't rule out ayy lmaos. In fact, a primitive Dyson structure would NOT be regular like in OP's pic; it would be more or less centered around the home planet (or possibly an O'Neill cylinder) for easier power transmission, but still have an unsymmetric shape to it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:41:40 2015 No.7588952
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Just wait for the James Webb telescope. They'll be looking at this system, I'm sure. Wouldn't it be neat to send them a few images of a Dyson Sphere model, anyway (granted the system has life in it)? Kind of like going "hey, we see what you're doing, check it out". Like in the form of a narrowband wavelength or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:44:46 2015 No.7588964 well even if there was aliens out there at this very moment, wouldnt we be hearing or seeing them from thousands of years in the past? theres no way they would still be there. its probably just a bunch of broken up rocks or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:48:00 2015 No.7588971 If they are aliens what do you think they're doing now? Since what we can see is like a thousand years ago

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:52:42 2015 No.7588976 >>7588952 It would take 1500 years young Anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:54:52 2015 No.7588981 >>7588976 what if we used high powered "laser beams"?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:54:58 2015 No.7588983 File: 40 KB, 387x624, 1444788011550.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7588976 Hey, I know that. But 1,500 years isn't the end of them or us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 13:56:36 2015 No.7588988 >>7588983 your a fucking moron

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:01:45 2015 No.7589004
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>>7588988
>A century ago, postage was the exclusive method of communication.
>Two centuries ago, we did that literally by carriage, boat, and foot.
It takes a long time for primitive civilizations to share information. As we and they advance, perhaps there will arise new methods. Even a three-thousand-year long conversation is still a conversation. What's more is that these conversations can include multiple dialogues in one message.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:02:12 2015 No.7589006 >>7588840 >1500 light years away >contact

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:03:15 2015 No.7589009 >>7589004 do you have any idea how long it would take for them to get here? kill yourself. science is just a romantic thing to you apparently

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:05:04 2015 No.7589015 >>7588988 your a fucking shortsighted plebeian, my boy

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:05:11 2015 No.7589017 >>7588983 >ayy lmao you there? 1500 years >ayy lmao 1500 years >sup? 1500 years >ayy lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:07:06 2015 No.7589019 File: 16 KB, 249x300, 1353022184617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7589017 >the average IRC conversation is going to be the mode of communication on this timescale >this is what internet commenters actually believe

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:09:57 2015 No.7589025
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>>7589009
Last time I checked, you don't have to stand in front of someone just to say "hi".

>>7589017
More like; "hey, here's the entirety of wikipedia".
>A thousand years later, weird aural entanglements that translate into odd glyphs.
Hmm. Let's hold off on sending anything back. What does this mean?
Ah shit, that took us five years to figure out, but they just sent us their own history.
"Hey guys, that's amazing. You just helped us with these two theories; send relativity and quantum uncertainty. Here's everything else we got, culturally and scientifically. Got any ideas on wormholes?"
>A thousand years later, they send us their ideas of distance folding, or some shit, and reply with their own theories on cosmic socialism, or who fuckin' knows, space fascism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:12:40 2015 No.7589031 >>7589025 you have no idea how stupid that sounds

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:14:39 2015 No.7589038 File: 148 KB, 320x240, 9342921.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7589031 In the vacuum of space? Wouldn't sound like anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:15:59 2015 No.7589040 >>7589038 have fun graduating from high school in four years champ

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:18:50 2015 No.7589046 >>7589025 >cosmic socialism >space fascism is this just a joke to you or..?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:21:43 2015 No.7589052 >>7589025 Dude what if they wanted to kill us after reviewing our history ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:22:07 2015 No.7589055 >>7589025 >A thousand years later, they send us their ideas of distance folding, or some shit, and reply with their own theories on cosmic socialism, or who fuckin' knows, space fascism. Aayy lma-- >>>/pol/ >>>/pol/ >>>/out/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:23:14 2015 No.7589057 >>7589055 seriously, why the fuck bring politics into this

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:23:42 2015 No.7589060 >>7588988 >humans have lived for millions of years >or at least 6000 or whatever if you subscribe to religious beliefs >but 10,000 more to send some messages back and forth is not gonna happen

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:25:41 2015 No.7589064 >>7589060 How dense are you?? And why the fuck would socialism or fascism exist 10000 lightyears away These concepts wouldnt even exist to them

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:28:11 2015 No.7589066 >>7589064 What the fuck are you even talking about you moron? The guy said a conversation wouldn't work because there'd be a large time gap in-between messages, all I said is that humans are going to be sticking around for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:29:19 2015 No.7589068 >>7589064 >These concepts wouldnt even exist to them As long as they're complex social animals and not, I don't know, a single planet-wide slime mold, authoritarianism and communalism almost certainly would in some form.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:29:25 2015 No.7589070
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>>7588580
A dyson sphere would produce a constant dip if even there was a dip at all. This is more likely that a planet buster has been used on one of their planets.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:32:03 2015 No.7589076

>>7589066
I want you to imagine this

>King James passes note to alien leader

>Alien leader passes note to Napolean

>Napolean passes note to alien leader

>Alien leader passes note to 78th president of US

Do you see how this would pan out dude?

You can't have a conversation like that

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:33:41 2015 No.7589078 >>7589025 I'm just curious what you mean by "distance folding".

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:38:14 2015 No.7589086 >>7588840 Shits gonna get real in the next 2-400 years. And we'll both be dead to see it Too bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:39:59 2015 No.7589093 >>7588981 It would take 1500 years anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:42:48 2015 No.7589099 And of course no one is talking about hypotheses that don't involve ayy lmaos

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:44:14 2015 No.7589105 >>7589099 I'd tell you my hypothesis, but it's stupid and wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:44:43 2015 No.7589110 >>7588976 Thinking of this...it would take us 1500 years to contact them, but it might not take them 1500 years to notice us trying to contact them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:45:30 2015 No.7589112 >>7589110 How so?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:49:07 2015 No.7589121
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>>7588840
>I can only hope it's intelligent life that is advanced and non-hostile. please for the love of all that is existence let first contact be successfully made before I hit 40
What do you think whitey? :^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:49:15 2015 No.7589122 >>7589112 More advanced technology. If they can really construct megastructures in space, then they are at least 1500 years more advanced than us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:52:30 2015 No.7589128 >>7589121 >lib. arts meme The Indian tribes that got pwnd were aggressive assholes who thought they could get away with scalping defenseless women and their babies for sport.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:56:45 2015 No.7589140 >>7589121 Even they got assimilated. Check out my casino.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 14:59:25 2015 No.7589146 OK, so let's say it's aayliums. We're seeing them 1500 years ago. They're looking at our 500AD. Can they tell we're about to have global civilization? Do they even know we have life?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:00:37 2015 No.7589148 >>7589105 What if there I world made of fire and a world made of ice collided? That is 2 gas planets colliding

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:02:01 2015 No.7589150 >>7589128 Yes. Pretend that was the reason to almost wipe them all out. There are also other examples like the native australians, middle and south americans and africans.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:03:12 2015 No.7589156 The light curve is weird though, if it were really a dyson sphere wouldn't we see crazy light spikes all the time instead of like twice in four years?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:06:24 2015 No.7589164

>>7589150
Yes, because history is that simple, it was all about genocide and there was no complex history of politics, wars and assimilation involved with generally good intentions of humans on all sides. Fucking evil white devils man.

>There are also other examples like the native australians, middle and south americans and africans.
>There are also other lazily superficially revisionist meme history that was prescribed to me in my anti-western propaganda tailored education.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:15:56 2015 No.7589188 >>7589164 Oh, okay. Go ahead and educate me on the complex history of these examples, Anon. And don't leave out the parts of generally good intentions on all sides, okay?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:27:33 2015 No.7589216 >>7589188 >Condense tens of thousands of pages of history books into a tl;dr 4chan post for me. This is why your kind should just not speak about anything important.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:31:49 2015 No.7589230 >>7589216 If you can't explain it simply, you don't know it well enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:35:21 2015 No.7589237 >>7589230 >I can only handle simple ideas that tell me which way I should vote. Don't give me a real education! No wonder the Nazis took over so easily.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:37:00 2015 No.7589243 >>7589237 More like Communists. National Socialism was for the Educated middle and upper classes, who were always the bulk of Hitler's support. Particularly the middle-classes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:37:12 2015 No.7589244 >>7589237 I'm saying instead of grandstanding, explain what you mean with genuine referential data.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:37:39 2015 No.7589245

>>7589230
No, if you know it well enough, you know that its misleading to simplify. Hes right.

Anyways. Probably not aliens, honestly. Most intelligent aliens are probably postindustrial. Farmers, herders, hunter gatherers, etc. Like we were for the vast, vast, vast majority of our intelligent existence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:39:38 2015 No.7589252 >>7589216 Very believable, Anon. Lol. You know what a source is?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:41:52 2015 No.7589257 >>7589245 Playing devil's advocate to extract a point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:42:04 2015 No.7589258 I look forward to the day when "Alien mega-structures" will be featured in a real scientific article.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:42:36 2015 No.7589261

>>7589237
>I can only handle simple ideas
He's asking you to give him ANY information, since as you just said it would be TOO MUCH to type it all out. There is also something like a source.
Fuck you are an idiot. Also the communists defeated Nazi Germany in the end, you clown.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:45:46 2015 No.7589267

>>7589261
>Also the communists defeated Nazi Germany in the end, you clown.
I was obviously talking about the politics before the war even started. You do realize the NSDAP had to "take over" Germany first right? They never had more than 50% support, but after they won the first election they pumped their propaganda into academia like all political entities.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:47:43 2015 No.7589271 >>7589150 >native australians Do you have any idea how horrifyingly savage they were and some still are? We're talking mothers eating their children or feeding them to their siblings.

deleted Wed Oct 14 15:48:07 2015 No.7589272

>>7589146

this. chances are any hypothetical civilisation there similar to ours in terms of tech advancement speed may not even have been producing radio waves for 1500 years yet.

They definentely wouldn't have seen ours yet.

We should keep an eye on this star for a while at least, if nothing comes to light the best we can do is if some ancient radio waves from the early years of the technological civilisation that may have just arisen there get to us.

We could have lucked into an early warning of what might be living around that star.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 15:50:52 2015 No.7589279 >>7589271 And the other guys ritually consumed effigies of their corpse god every week for centuries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:00:50 2015 No.7589292 >>7589267 >derailing Incredible. You really are a moron.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:06:40 2015 No.7589308 >>7589292 Certainly, >>7589121 should carry no blame for derailing at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:14:01 2015 No.7589334 You really think we are going to be a more advanced civilization than ayy lmaos? Maybe they are the ones contacting us in the next 10 years

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>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:18:33 2015 No.7589346 >>7589006 Radio waves?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:21:04 2015 No.7589356

>>7589308
Yes, because it's a useful example to understand what happens when a lower tier civilization meets a higher one.
Hey, but since you are bringing us back to the main argument again, how about you deliver a brief story of those generally good intentions of boths sides in history?
Afterall you actually can deliver brief information about history
>I was obviously talking about the politics before the war even started. You do realize the NSDAP had to "take over" Germany first right? They never had more than 50% support, but after they won the first election they pumped their propaganda into academia like all political entities.
Valid sources are also good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:27:00 2015 No.7589367 Say it's a dyson sphere and we can confirm it. Then what?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:31:11 2015 No.7589379 >>7589346 All of that travels at light-speed. Can't go faster.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:31:36 2015 No.7589381

>>7589356
Are you properly down syndrome level retarded? Do you think this is a debate or something? Be honest since I'm pretty sure you've never been in a real intellectual discussion in your life so I can see how posts on a Cambodian silk weaving forum could confuse you. Read any history book that goes into detail about any war period, early colonization, expansionism etc. I'm not going to compile a reading list that would take several limits lists just to give references alone.

Or you could just keep believing your racist 1 dimensional version of several hundred years of complex history. I really don't care, there's a billion dogmatic morons just like you, I don't mind 1 more staying just like he/she is, stupid people like you never end up in a position of real power. I have better things to do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:31:50 2015 No.7589382 File: 49 KB, 640x640, 1434327535371.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7589086 You're gonna be dead in 2 years?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:32:23 2015 No.7589384 >>7589367 Roll up and smack their girlfriend's ass. What do?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:38:18 2015 No.7589394

>>7588840
>I can only hope it's intelligent life that is advanced and non-hostile. please for the love of all that is existence let first contact be successfully made before I hit 40

Here's hoping for all of our sakes. If we've found evidence of a Kardeschev Scale >1 civilization with visible light information that's a full millenium and a half out of date, we are hopelessly behind the technology eight ball.

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Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:46:57 2015 No.7589412

>>7589381
>I have better things to do.
Lol, you wasted your precious time to a dozen posts prior to that. And even this post was just a ramble of insults trying to avoid the main argument.
Do you think an intellectual discussion looks something like
>lol just look it up yourself
when people ask you to deliver proof to your own claims?
Yes, close this thread and spend your time elsewhere. Maybe on >>>/pol/ where other retards can shitpost unquestioned.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 16:58:15 2015 No.7589429
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>>7589078
A sloppier version of quantum tunneling and Einstein-Rosen bridging.

>>7589412
Since that's over, you wanna talk about exotic particle physics?
Do you think a civilization that can build dyson spheres might have a lead in that area?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 17:00:16 2015 No.7589434 File: 28 KB, 680x514, ayy_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7589429 you were here this whole time

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 17:04:09 2015 No.7589445 >>7589434 Um. What, do you see my IP or something...?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 17:05:28 2015 No.7589448 >>7588580 Are we gonna get the blue people from Ringworld too?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 17:11:26 2015 No.7589455 >>7588976 1500 years for observers on earth. accelerating in a space craft near c will cause distances in front of you to contract, thus shorten travel. You will reach there in time, but earthlings will see you grow old by 1500 years.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 17:50:03 2015 No.7589529

>>7589006
>1500 years
if it is space fang intelligent life what is to say they aren't propagating through space, and what is to say they havent already sent contact our way (in the instance that it turns out to be a Dyson sphere, it's 1500 years old, and Dyson sphere tech is likely 200 years or more advanced than our current technology, what is to say they aren't 15000 years ahead of us in technology)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 18:09:39 2015 No.7589568 >>7589394 bingo

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 19:00:55 2015 No.7589652

>>7589394
>>7589529

>the stellar engineering project was their global effort which didn't stay global for long. Wars ensued over control of the new energy grid and infrastructure required for it's upkeep was destroyed and their civilization was plunged into a long dark night, leaving their miracles of stellar engineering floating around their star useless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 19:03:10 2015 No.7589654 >>7588892 This. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I HOPE it really is a Dyson sphere built by cosmic pot smoking aliums, but we need to be careful not to turn out like those UFO cultists.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 19:15:04 2015 No.7589666 >>7588892 >And if it is a Dyson swarm or other megastructure, why would their orbits be so irregular and its bodies so large and oddly shaped? Work-in-progress Dyson Swarm that's in solar polar orbits?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:06:29 2015 No.7589749 >Hey boss, we've received a radio message from a main-sequence star in cluster 22435B! >What does the message say? >According to the linguistics department, it says "your sphere is shitty and gay, kill yourselves"

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:07:31 2015 No.7589753 they found something anomalous and went full AYY LMAO

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:30:53 2015 No.7589802 >>7588722 >most plausible um no. the most plausible are dust cloud and asteroid belt. even rare shit like planetary collisions are probably more likely than liums

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:31:54 2015 No.7589808 >>7589271 >Native Australians >Do you have any idea how horrifyingly savage they were and some still are? Nigger wat? Dude... they were relatively peaceful... it was the british who fucked their shit up.... with like enslavement and shit.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:52:52 2015 No.7589848

>>7589076
Sounds like an interesting exercise. If they had made contact around 3000 BC:

>Alien leader notices humans emerging 200,000 BC, sends 2-way radio
>radio arrives in Uruk in 3000 BC, King Gilgamesh doesn't understand shit but somehow sends a signal back in ancient Sumeria
>Alien leader gets signal in 1500 BC, doesn't understand shit. Sends the equivalent of "Could you repeat that" in alien language
>Jesus stumbles on radio, believes God is calling him. Sends a reply.
>Alien leader doesn't understand Aramaic. Sends a reply
>3000 AD, the Singularity correctly decodes the alien language and sends back an antimatter bomb

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:56:12 2015 No.7589858

If it were confirmed to be ayys, would anyone beside me just be instantly already sick of it before a single person even managed to message/call you about 'the news'?

Like who cares it's 100 brazilian miles away, there's nothing we can do about/with it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:56:13 2015 No.7589859

Ever considered that maybe the ayyyliens know about us but want nothing to do with us so they intentionally hide from us because we are a violent warlike species and all you have to do is look at the apes running around on this planet right now to see that? What if the earth is a backwater prison planet and they are counting on us to wipe ourselves out?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 20:57:35 2015 No.7589864 >>7589859 >ever considered I'm pretty sure that's widely considered. It's 2015, everything's been considered there are no original thoughts.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:01:03 2015 No.7589868

>>7589859
>they intentionally hide from us because we are a violent warlike species
Or maybe because we're too "soft" compared to the galactic society. Perhaps we're on some "endangered species" list because we're not viscous enough.
Or maybe the gravity's kind of low here.
Most of the "potentially habitable exoplanets" have more mass than Earth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:02:20 2015 No.7589872 >>7588840 Dude the Turians are gonna annihilate our asses

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:04:23 2015 No.7589878 >>7589808 that's some nice american basketball player english

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:07:42 2015 No.7589891 >>7589872 Mass Effect is shit sci-fi get better taste faggot

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:13:06 2015 No.7589904

>>7589848
>sends a bomb
>to a race thousands of years ahead of us in terms of technology and would have hit their singularity long ago before us
>they haven't done anything to us
Can you see how this would be considered both incredibly stupid and spiteful?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:13:12 2015 No.7589906 >>7589868 >Earth is a game perserve for the propagation of the human race >"Alien abduction" is the same thing biologists to when they tag Lions and shit Holy fuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:13:24 2015 No.7589907 >>7588981 Are you really this fucking stupid?

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:16:33 2015 No.7589918

>>7589848
An advanced civilization isn't going to lose to the likes of us, anon. No matter what Hollywood has to say on the matter.
They'll be the ones doing the bombing, and chances are it'll be something very powerful and impossible to defend against.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:44:38 2015 No.7589950

>>7589271
>Do you have any idea how horrifyingly savage americans were and still are?

>We're talking funding literal death squads in cental america, destabilizing an entire region and causing mass civilian death over oil and carrying out a drone campaign that had a 2% success rate, meaning 98% of the people killed by drones are civilians

I can't wait until Russia nukes the US back to the stone age. It will be a net positive for the world because you are all savages who cause death and destruction all over the world.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:48:18 2015 No.7589957 >>7589950 That's some intense butthurt friendo. Take it to /int/

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:50:46 2015 No.7589965
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Hi I am Mega. Hi am from KIC 8462852.

Your radio signal is cute. Many many cute data. I am look your signal for many many time, but I no understando all.

What you talk? What is the favorite discussion you say please?

Sorry for my question. Bye bye Sol III.

Mega

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:52:06 2015 No.7589969 >>7589957 >pointing out factual things america has done >taking a retarded argument to its logical conclusion >butthurt Weow laddie, calm down. Go take a breather and come back when you're able to have a discussion, amerifat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:53:09 2015 No.7589974 >>7589969 Shouting out death and destruction does not constitute factual data, try again mudskin

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 21:57:36 2015 No.7589987 >>7589974 oh i see now, you were just baiting. don't worry the era of america is already over. russia is doing whatever the fuck it wants in europe and america can't do a single fucking thing or they'll get nuked into glass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:01:12 2015 No.7589997 Are there any other space anomalies that people have linked with intelligent life that aren't fringe ramblings?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:37:33 2015 No.7590042 File: 214 KB, 1348x1086, космос ниггерс.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >AУУy

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:48:04 2015 No.7590058 >>7589070 The dip bottoms out at 22% occlusion. What kind of planet, busted or otherwise, do you know of that eclipses nearly a quarter of its star's light from 1400ly away?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:49:11 2015 No.7590063 >>7590042 This shit is as stupid as ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:55:35 2015 No.7590077 >>7589997 A few that people briefly thought might be, but which then turned out to be natural phenomena. Plus the WOW signal which was probably something else just on the principle of mediocrity. I think that's about it. Otherwise, no.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:56:01 2015 No.7590078 File: 905 KB, 833x651, Takatagita.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7589965 QGIYGyigIFQIyfIFTF? AASD2! hgisA hfei0>hj

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:58:21 2015 No.7590081 >>7590063 Nice rebuttal

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:59:25 2015 No.7590082 File: 2.14 MB, 704x566, bielstriptraining.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >one day you'll die and never see how we explore the starts and make contact with alien life forms

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 22:59:35 2015 No.7590083

>>7589997
Yes - for instance, it was actually a fairly mainstream hypothesis that pulsars could be ETI radio beacons - but they all turned out to be either natural (pulsars are actually spinning neutron stars) or actually human in origin (like the peryton radio bursts).

Oh, and there's the Wow! signal, which very well could have been a stray ET signal but on the other hand probably wasn't.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:04:09 2015 No.7590091

>>7589918

They can fling a kinetic bomb from outside of our system and have it strike Earth and annihilate it without us even knowing they're there.

In fact, they might be doing that right now.
Or they might've detected us hundreds of years ago or even thousands and already launched such a bomb and it's going to strike us no matter what we or they do. They could've launched it and went extinct.

Who knows.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:05:09 2015 No.7590096 File: 59 KB, 640x360, 1291405818723.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7590077 >>7590083 >yfw Wow Signal was greens literally saying ayy lmao

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:05:59 2015 No.7590100

>>7590077
>>7590083

But that being said, our ability to actually detect anything other than an incredibly high-powered beam directed right at us is nearly nil. Our best radio telescopes couldn't pick up Earth-level radio noise out past a couple of light years. All anyone can say for certain is that nobody has screamed at us over a radio megaphone yet, and we can't see any truly collosal structures that anyone has built around other suns yet - but of course our sample size on the latter is insignificantly tiny compared to the scale of the galaxy, the majority of which is out of our view anyway.

Turning this eensy bit of negative evidence into "there is no alien life" involves a level of intellectual hubris that I find staggering.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:10:32 2015 No.7590105 If the mass of the star is greater than the mass of every planet in that stars solar system then how would enough matter be assembled to surround the star? It's like trying to cover an aerobics ball in a handful of clay, it can't be done.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:18:19 2015 No.7590115 >you were born too early to see ayys ;________________________;

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:19:17 2015 No.7590116 >>7590105 pull some of the mass from the star itself

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:20:32 2015 No.7590120 >>7590116 holy fuark

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:22:48 2015 No.7590126 File: 1.14 MB, 300x200, pepe dies at the phone.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Born too late to fuck aliens >Born to autistic to fuck humans

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:24:18 2015 No.7590130 >>7590126 >tfw also born too retarded to understand time

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:25:25 2015 No.7590132 >>7590130 kek ur dumbo

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:30:51 2015 No.7590145

>>7590042
The problem with interstellar relativistic MAD is that it is extremely difficult to be sure that the destruction of the other side is actually assured. If any trace of the target civilization survives, you can be sure that they'll remember what you did, and one day you'll find a relativistic rock with your name on it.

So you have to both be *absolutely sure* that your opening salvo is so massive it would actually wipe out civilization in the target star system. Right off the bat, you've got a problem - 1.5 million megatons of energy isn't nearly enough, only about 1/100th of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs.

And even that may not be enough to wipe out your target civilization - after all, if it was true that everybody knew that relativistic rocks were such a massive danger that it was best to hide, surely they'd put some protection into effect, It's even somewhat in doubt that Chixculub was wholly responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs - are you going to bet that such an impact would drive a potentially prepared, intelligent species aware of the danger to extinction, in conditions that may be even less favorable to extinction?

So let's say that to be absolutely sure of killing a planet, we need to maybe bump that up to 1 petaton of boom - a decent fraction of the energy needed to blow the Earth's atmosphere into space. Maybe in one big blast, maybe distributed over several different impacts to ensure a global carpeting of boom.

Except that still isn't enough, because what if they have enough industry on extraplanetary colonies to potentially struggle through? If technological civilization survives anywhere in the star system, they're going to know you hit them, and now you've got an entire species whose collective civilizational goal is wrecking your shit.

Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:46:24 2015 No.7590162

>>7590145
>>7590145
And so, if large, sustainable open-space and asteroid belt colonies are possible, then you're in real trouble: without a planet to serve as a target, each one would need its own relativistic rock, and steering, aiming, and target-designating such things over distances of light-years would be near-impossible.

And for that matter, hitting a target as small and fast-moving as a planet with a projectile launched from light-years away, so quickly that the whole planet can't see it coming - that's no cakewalk either, and you really can't afford to *miss.*

And come to think of it, where are you getting all this energy from? Even assuming 100% propulsive efficiency, you're getting into sizable fractions of a star's output - and any megastructure harvesting that much sunlight will be potentially visible by other civilizations, and would be the surest possible sign that you were a threat. And not only that, but under the conditions of interstellar MAD put forth in that image, you'd have to make sure that the energy release of launching your relativistic salvo was not visible to any other civilizations who might cause it to see you as a threat - because actively launching RKVs at other civilizations would prove without doubt that you were a threat in need of a preemptive RKV strike yourself.

It simply does not work. Preemptively launching an RKV is just a risk too appalling - leaving an unacceptably large chance that you would receive a strike in return.

If you're stumbling around in a Central Park you know to be filled with terrified, twitchy men desperate to avoid being shot, some of whom have guns much bigger than yours... then the one thing you want to do even less than shouting "I'm here!" or "I'm a friend!" is to let off a gunshot into the dark at some dim shape you can barely see- because then you're announcing "I'm a threat!".

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:52:41 2015 No.7590174 > Distance: 1481 ly next plz

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:55:03 2015 No.7590180 File: 500 KB, 2468x1200, Elektronenroehren-auswahl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dyson is bullshit. Kardashev is bullshit. Megastructures are bullshit. Advanced civilizations minimize their energy requirements, not the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:56:11 2015 No.7590181 File: 17 KB, 400x283, 400px-Macross25-schematictop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7590162 thanks, now i can sleep

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:57:16 2015 No.7590184 File: 1.92 MB, 400x286, 1425940773262.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AYY LMAOS FOR THE AYY LMAO GOD

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 14 23:57:57 2015 No.7590187 ayy

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:03:33 2015 No.7590205 >>7590180 Yeah that's why civilization on Earth has been needing less and less energy as time goes on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:04:13 2015 No.7590209 >>7590180 >Advanced civilizations minimize their energy requirements No they don't. The more advanced a civilization gets the more energy they require. What you meant to say is that advanced civilization become more efficient.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:08:30 2015 No.7590217 >>7590209 What could you possibly do with a Dyson sphere that you can't do without it? Melt your entire fucking planet for fun?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:09:47 2015 No.7590221 >>7590217 What if they have energy condensing technology that lets them turn the solar energy output into actual matter

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:10:43 2015 No.7590226 >>7589031 Atoms sounded stupid too. How can you learn the history of science and not understand that we have no idea what we dont know and what insurmountable obstacles will be passed. >mankind will never fly! Mankind will never leave earth! >you

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:13:20 2015 No.7590235 >>7590226 What about all of the bad ideas that were called all too that ended up being total bullshit? Alchemy was legit? Lobotomies? Ether? Chances are FTL and all that gay shit are nonsense like ether.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:16:49 2015 No.7590247

>>7589529
1500 years ago though, there wasn't anything obvious to detect us with.
It'd just be sheer luck (Or they knew our planet was suitable for life and decided to scout further) if anything was sent our way.
If there's definitely aliens there, it'd be roughly around the year 5000 before anything turned up at best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:17:01 2015 No.7590249 >>7589906 That's like what all Alien Abduction theories are about, yes.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:18:58 2015 No.7590256

>>7590235
Ether was hardly a "bad idea". It is a natural assumption based on real observations and would do a good job explaining relativity WHILE being something that is entirely plausible and fit within our field theories.

Just because something is elegant doesn't mean it's true, but the reverse holds as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:21:03 2015 No.7590264 >>7590247 >1500 years ago though, there wasn't anything obvious to detect us with. There would have been signs from the advanced civilizations before... Rome, Egypt, Greece, who knows how much was lost in the dark ages

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:22:32 2015 No.7590268

>>7590235
This. Ether was a totally sound and sensible idea, intuitively and elegantly tying together electromagnetism and Newtonian mechanics, which happened to be wrong.

And phlogiston was still better: Its inventor correctly unified combustion, oxidation, and metabolism into a single phenomenon involving the exchange of a substance. And we're supposed to call it ignorant pseudoscience because they got the sign wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:27:43 2015 No.7590286 File: 98 KB, 600x500, 1441368452194.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7588580

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:32:36 2015 No.7590295

>>7590264
Consider that our planet hunting methods work on the basis that we often can't even see entire planets, and have to find workaround methods of "seeing" them.
Then consider that the only obviously unnatural ancient structures are the great pyramids, just because they're large perfect squares which would have had a white colour when they were first created (Used to be covered in limestone).
To even make out our planet by the light reflected off of it, the aliens would need more grand and advanced technology than us.
To spot a continent would be far harder still.
To spot something so small as a manmade structure would require an astoundingly large telescope (This could be literally be multiple AU in diameter) pointed at just the right spot at just the right time to even be clearly anything unusual.
Radio is the first way they'll spot us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:33:51 2015 No.7590298 >>7590295 And you think they won't already be millions of years more advanced? You're forgetting the pyramids gave off their own signals that could be detected.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:41:09 2015 No.7590310 File: 37 KB, 480x534, 11885339_10153184132447832_6332358732051856218_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7590205 >Implying earth is an Advanced and Intelligent Civilization Are you honestly this fucking stupid?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 00:48:44 2015 No.7590335 File: 1.33 MB, 2500x1726, img325214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Earth > civilization ayy lmao

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:33:46 2015 No.7590428
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>>7588840
First contact is the most scary thing ever. Us being alone in the universe it's much better than the idea that we're not.

What if the Aliens are hostile? Or worse, they are so indifferent to us that killing us is our equivalent of stepping on a bug? What if they decide to enslave us for food, pet or put in a zoo?

Even if that society was peaceful, there's still the possibility of them having a policy of killing of potential troublemakers(What we are)planets before they get powerful.

I really, really hope we're alone in the universe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:35:28 2015 No.7590431 >>7590428 >What if they decide to enslave us for food Do you regularly fly out to Alpha Centauri for a pizza and some beers?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:39:31 2015 No.7590436

>>7590431
Imperialism was invented, so Europeans could drink tea and eat spiced food.

If those aliens are like us, they would certainly try to do bizarre things with us because of their curiosity. There's no other point. They wouldn't want our inorganic resources, the only thing we can offer to a species like that is the life here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:40:55 2015 No.7590441 >>7590436 >Imperialism was invented Because it was insanely profitable. Mad amounts of wealth were plundered from places like India, Indonesia, and Mexico and hauled back to Europe. None of those economic incentives would be around for aliens and us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:45:48 2015 No.7590446 >>7589891 Lol

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Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:46:39 2015 No.7590450

>>7590441
> None of those economic

Of course there would be. Didn't you read my post? I'm talking about my fear of those Aliens species seeing us as a commodity. What if breast milk turns out to be the best beverage in this side of the galaxy? We're fucked. What if Xorb's daughter wants a human as a pet? We're fucked.

>But how could an intelligent species enslave another?

We enslaved dolphins and elephants, animals that have emotions and are, somewhat, highly intelligent.
Ants have really primitives societies, and we encase them in glass.

All it needs its for the "Ayy lmaos" to be a little smarter than us, for them to perceive us as animals.

>But advance alien species wouldn't care about those primitive stuff

Thousands of years of civilization, and still, the most important thing for most of us it's what is in our bellies, and who's going to suck our dick.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:52:18 2015 No.7590461

>>7590441
>Mad amounts of wealth were plundered from places like India, Indonesia, and Mexico and hauled back to Europe

these things only had such high value because Europeans had an economic and social system that made it possible for people to have the money to trade such a price

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:53:11 2015 No.7590463 >>7589112 observatories with wormholes to relay information. If they are building Dyson spheres then they must be able to bend space time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 01:56:14 2015 No.7590465 >>7588748 Dyson sphere reference?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 02:01:09 2015 No.7590474 >>7590298 wat

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 02:15:41 2015 No.7590518 >>7590474 Are you new? It's just some /x/ fag who thinks he knows shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 02:19:03 2015 No.7590527 >>7590518 I usually ignore the /x/ and flat earth threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 02:20:32 2015 No.7590530 >>7589429 >We could find an anime planet >with cute anime girls all over it

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 02:22:48 2015 No.7590534 >>7590527 I understand. I try to ignore them too, but they populate any space/fringe related thread, and it's really annoying.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 02:26:52 2015 No.7590546

>>7590530
What if we go to a planet
and it's full of nothing but cute girls
and they all love anime
and people who watch anime
and they're technically advanced enough to make themselves look like anime and be anime
and we all leave and live there
and leave this shithole to the jews and chads who don't like anime
no the chads that like DBZ and SnK can't come those are normalfag anime
bye bye earth

it's a possibility if the japanese get to the ayy lmaos first

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 04:37:11 2015 No.7590714 >>7590428 >Aliens keeping humans as pets You're saying that's a bad thing. We keep pets and we probably treat our pets better than we treat ourselves. Who's a good Human?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 04:48:08 2015 No.7590725 >>7588580 >Dyson_Swarm That makes no sense. Why would you have high density at the poles and no density on the equator. Stupid configuration.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 04:48:09 2015 No.7590726 Exciting

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 04:50:00 2015 No.7590728 >>7589093 What if we increased the power? ;^)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 04:59:06 2015 No.7590736 >>7590145 >>7590162 this makes me feel better thanks anon

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 05:02:50 2015 No.7590739
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>>7590078
That's a little cool, but this thing doesn't have the equivalent of hands, an intelligent alien race would have that. It would be great to see some really imaginative designs.
Somebody should make a new TV show that is filled with new original ideas about how meeting aliens could be like. Everything from original alien designs to space etiquette.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 06:02:29 2015 No.7590798 >>7588892 >>7588580 I'd say the comet theory is unlikely but nearly as unlikely as Dyson sphere-like structures created by a extraterrestial intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 06:23:17 2015 No.7590811 >>7589006 Contact? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ-EOg38t1o

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 07:00:41 2015 No.7590844 >>7588981 kek

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 07:31:55 2015 No.7590876

>>7590739
Problematically any of our ideas would still come from our minds and would probably be like a blue-collar mechanic imagining what it would be like to be invited to Emperor Hirohito's dinner party. Lots of 'They don't use plates!'

Or on the flipside, people usually go along the lines of 'They eat with their butts!' Either way literary contact between aliens and humans is usually flawed as the extraterrestrials behavior is usually just some version of our behavior put through a blender.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 07:33:33 2015 No.7590879 >>7590461 Fucking capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 07:37:54 2015 No.7590882 File: 27 KB, 586x614, 7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw no ayyqt3.14 gf

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 07:44:52 2015 No.7590887 Today I learned that /sci/ is the dumbest board on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 07:51:32 2015 No.7590892 >>7589965 post nudes.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:03:49 2015 No.7590906

>>7590876
>ideas would still come from our minds
I have faith there are some really imaginative people out there. Or I'll have to do it myself.

All that really matters is that someone comes up with something I haven't thought of before.

Like in Death Note, it was an interesting concept, and you could tell a lot of thought was put into it.

You just have to have a general idea, and then think a lot about it, "oh, that would work, and that wouldn't work because of this and that thing" and then present it to the world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:11:12 2015 No.7590914 >>7588580 Did one of you remove the bit about popular culture?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:14:21 2015 No.7590918 File: 219 KB, 125x163, 1443623475934.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] do you guys use SETI@home?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:19:56 2015 No.7590924 >>7590739 http://lesswrong.com/lw/y4/three_worlds_collide_08/ I recommend everyone who's into ayy lmao contact read this, it's great

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:21:50 2015 No.7590925 So wait, does it blink periodically every 750 days ? Wat else is it if not the greys ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:23:23 2015 No.7590928 >>7590925 get this scientists honestly think the following i'm dead serious they think that it's blown up asteroid particles covering the sun in a coincidental way

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:31:39 2015 No.7590936 >>7590428 I think that if an alien society has the technology to reach us they have probably evolved to the point where they are non hostile. We are less barbaric than we used to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:33:52 2015 No.7590939 >>7590928 It might be a single rotational thing. Maybe just one piece of the asteroid is completing the circulation in 750 days that occlude the light coming.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:34:27 2015 No.7590940

>>7590936
>I think that if an alien society has the technology to reach us they have probably evolved to the point where they are non hostile
or they have evolved to the point where they target every intelligent civilization for new technology and then murder everyone

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:35:29 2015 No.7590942 >>7590939 That doesn't make sense, doesn't it cover almost the whole star all the time except for a tiny period?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:37:45 2015 No.7590945 >>7590940 That doesn't make any sense. You're using old fashioned human rationale.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:38:17 2015 No.7590947 >>7588840 What if aliens are female animes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:38:59 2015 No.7590949 >>7590945 you mean the only point of reference regarding intelligent life we have? yeah, you just got science'd take your "aliens HAVE to be completely different mental-wise" fanfiction to /x/

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:40:15 2015 No.7590952

>>7590942
> star's unusual light profile. Researchers currently think the most likely explanation for the star's odd reduction in light is due to a large dust cloud of broken up comets orbiting the star elliptically.

> small non-periodic dips in brightness of inconsistent sizes occuring frequently, along with two massive recorded dips in brightness appearing to occur roughly every ~750 days

small light fluctuations can be anything, but the 750 day period blinking has to be something that goes between the star and the world. Thats the simplest explaination.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:40:19 2015 No.7590953 >>7590949 >only point of reference No. That's old thinking. And it doesn't make any sense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:41:26 2015 No.7590956 >>7590953 >that's old thinking which other points of reference do we have?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:42:46 2015 No.7590957 >>7590956 Holy fuck. That's literally just what you think. There are several people here who have other opinions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:44:26 2015 No.7590960 >>7590957 Your post doesn't seem to be responding to my question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:45:58 2015 No.7590963 >>7590960 It is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:46:55 2015 No.7590964 >>7590963 The fact that aggressive carbon-based life is all we know is that, a fact. Our only point of reference. If you disagree, then you don't understand what point of reference means.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:50:20 2015 No.7590970 >>7590546 Then it's our duty to purge them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:53:20 2015 No.7590974 >>7590964 How does that even relate to any of what we were just talking about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:53:23 2015 No.7590976 do the aliens like memes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:54:21 2015 No.7590979 >we conclude that the scenario most consistent with the data in hand is the passage of a family of exocomet fragments, all of which are associated with a single previous breakup event.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:54:50 2015 No.7590980

>>7590974
As I said, you didn't understand my point from the beginning.

We have proof aggressive sentient life can eventually develop spacefaring technology.

We have no proof [your fanfiction of what alien life acts like] can eventually develop spacefaring technology.

Occam's razor says most spacefaring races will be aggressive and somewhat understandable to us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:54:57 2015 No.7590981 >>7590976 Considering they are memes, and assuming they like themselves, then yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:55:31 2015 No.7590983 >>7590450 >What if breast milk turns out to be the best beverage in this side of the galaxy? clone breast milk >What if Xorb's daughter wants a human as a pet? clone human

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:55:55 2015 No.7590985 So some crap is orbiting a star? What's ayyy about it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:57:22 2015 No.7590988 Humans are fucking disgusting, noone would want them as a pet. Even humans don't keep humans as pets, think about it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:58:49 2015 No.7590991 >>7590988 Some fetishists do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:58:51 2015 No.7590992 >>7590979 >y-yes, a group of asteroids exploded all at the same time and covered the star in close-orbiting fragments >oh yeah and two big ones at each side, but it was all by chance, we promise, it's not a dyson swarm covering a star

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:58:59 2015 No.7590993

>>7590980
>We have proof aggressive sentient life can eventually develop spacefaring technology.
Oh really, you mean us? I don't recall any of the astronauts being aggressive. I imagine a more advanced species becoming less and less barbaric.

And how the fuck do you get occams razor to support this theory of yours.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 08:59:54 2015 No.7590994 >>7590988 Speak for yourself. I wouldn't mind a qt girlie neet to pretty up and turn him into my personal sex slave.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:00:02 2015 No.7590995

>>7590985
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere#Dyson_swarm

>>7590993
>I don't recall any of the astronauts being aggressive.
Didn't NASA have protocols on how to react to intelligent life in space, most of them which involved contacting national defense agencies?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:01:32 2015 No.7590997

>>7590924
>"Anyway," said the Master. "If we don't fire on the alien ship - I mean, if this work is ever carried back to the Babyeater civilization - I suspect the aliens will consider this one of their great historical works of literature, like Hamlet or Fate/stay night"
>great historical works of literature
>like Fate/stay night
>"Tohsakas anus is defenseless."
No. No, no, no. No. Just, no.
You have bad tastes, don't ever recommend anything to anyone ever again.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:01:50 2015 No.7590998

>>7589292
I've just been reading through this thread and although it's late you've been a complete fool here.

>Throw out pointless insults left right and center
>Criticize a specific point for no real reason, then accuse the guy of derailing when he defends himself
>Generally contribute nothing constructive

Seriously man

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:02:36 2015 No.7590999 >>7590997 nigger, the F/SN shit wasn't meant to be taken seriously, it's a "future civilization is going to sound retarded to current civilization" imagine how a medieval man would react to ayy lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:02:51 2015 No.7591001 >>7590979 Yeah, you are actually right, those were aliens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:04:28 2015 No.7591007 File: 79 KB, 298x452, 1380822100356.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7590997 >in the far future >the only surviving ancient work of literate and the one future historians base their theories on how our society was, is in fact...

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:06:01 2015 No.7591010

>>7590999
There's a difference between a pop cultural meme and GREATEST WORKS OF LITERATURE, preserved for centuries and judged against other works of literature.
And Fate isn't even that good compared to other fantasy battle visual novels with sex in them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:07:02 2015 No.7591014 >>7591010 now you realize hamlet isn't actually good and it was the equivalent of a soap opera at the current time there's a reason those are the two examples

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:08:07 2015 No.7591018
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Any hyperadvanced civilization is a civilization of post-postmodern culture. They would probably troll us by bombarding our cities with giant pink dildos and writing a giant "ayy lmao" on the moon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:09:04 2015 No.7591019 Closest thing to maybe ayylmaos that we've ever been. Out of 150,000 stars that we've observed only this one has a light pattern like this one. It's not a young star so it shouldn't have debris flying around it.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:09:36 2015 No.7591021

>>7591014
The difference is the volume of preserved historical works is dwarfed by the volume of literature that can potentially be perfectly preserved in modern times, all of which will be judged against each other.
Really, I'm just offended they used Fate as an example. They could have just made something up so it wouldn't be as offensive to peoples sensibilities.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:10:25 2015 No.7591023 >WE FAILED >THEY ARE FREE

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:11:10 2015 No.7591024 >>7591021 I've sent that link to dozens of people and you're the first one to whine about it. At least it's not muv luv.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:15:42 2015 No.7591035 >I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill em'all!

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:16:34 2015 No.7591036

>>7591024
>I've sent that link to dozens of people and you're the first one to whine about it.
Maybe because all your friends are fags, ever thought about that?
Or just as likely, they simply didn't understand the reference and why it was completely awful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:17:12 2015 No.7591037 My question is, is the thing emitting infra-red? If so, that could indicate the presence of alien-made technology/materials.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:17:21 2015 No.7591038 >>7591036 Maybe that was the author's objective, trigger everyone who had played F/SN

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:19:42 2015 No.7591041 >>7591037 It does.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:21:04 2015 No.7591044 >>7591041 TERRIFIED now, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:23:23 2015 No.7591046 >>7591037 > If so, that could indicate the presence of alien-made technology/materials. no it doesnt

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:23:39 2015 No.7591047 >>7591038 >>7591036 also if you got triggered about that, just wait until you find out that '4chan' has become the generic word for online message board

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:24:09 2015 No.7591048 >>7591037 You pulled that logic out of your ass just now, didn't you, sir?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:25:15 2015 No.7591050

>>7591048
>>7591046
Given the amount of energy available per square meter at a distance of 1 AU from the Sun, it is possible to calculate that most known substances would be reradiating energy in the infrared part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Thus, a Dyson sphere, constructed by life forms not dissimilar to humans, who dwelled in proximity to a Sun-like star, made with materials similar to those available to humans, would most likely cause an increase in the amount of infrared radiation in the star system's emitted spectrum.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:29:37 2015 No.7591057 >>7591047 At that point it was obviously just a joke so I didn't get triggered. But there are enough tasteless weeaboos who genuinely think Fate is good that declaring Fate one of the greatest works of literature can be taken as a serious claim.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:30:12 2015 No.7591058 >>7590058 It's not a planet, it's a cloud of debris.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:30:36 2015 No.7591059 >>7591057 again, the other example was hamlet, how can you still not understand it's a joke

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:31:38 2015 No.7591062 >>7591058 gee I wonder why we haven't seen that unstable "structure" orbiting a star before, after checking 150000 stars

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:31:47 2015 No.7591063 >>7591059 I don't know anything about Shakespeare

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:34:08 2015 No.7591068 >>7590924 >lesswrong Why don't we post some /r/futurology stuff while we're at it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:34:26 2015 No.7591069 >>7591063 the only thing you need to know about shakespeare is that he's shit and only became known through popularity, and critics overanalyze his works constantly claiming there's meaning and art hidden where there's none

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:35:28 2015 No.7591073 >>7591068 I know yudkowski is a cult leader, but he writes decent fiction

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:38:03 2015 No.7591077 >>7591062 What if.... Guys... What if some things are rarer than others?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:39:14 2015 No.7591080

>>7591077
the reason we haven't seen it before is that it just can't happen
>multiple asteroids breaking and then their remains orbiting an old star in a very specific way that occludes most of its light for most of the time resembling a dyson swarm
is something that can't happen in "nature"

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:42:07 2015 No.7591086 Can someone actually explain what this would really look like? Like, a diagram or something? If it was artificial surely some sort of shape or symmetry would emerge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:42:44 2015 No.7591088 >>7591080 >it just can't happen Jebus dude, you are the master of time and space, aren't you? It's time for you to go back to /x/

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:44:10 2015 No.7591090 Why is it assumed that this stuff orbits the star? What if it's something in between?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 09:46:08 2015 No.7591096 File: 24 KB, 400x345, bolonkinalexanderfemtotechnologiesandrevolutionaryprojects-9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591090 ...something like this. AYYYYY LMAOOO

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:05:11 2015 No.7591119 >>7589216 >There is an extremely nuanced and complex justification for genocide, and asking for a summary is offensive

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:10:49 2015 No.7591126 >>7589237 >Simple ideas >Confusing a concise summary with an underdeveloped concept

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:13:19 2015 No.7591132 >>7590998 That's exactly what the other guy did

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:29:53 2015 No.7591161 >>7591014 why are all stem virgins such philistines

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:39:14 2015 No.7591177 >>7591161 >I'm butthurt my lit degree is only based in subjective facts and might become outdated in the future

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:44:56 2015 No.7591184

>>7588580
My only argument against the comet theory is that 22% of the star's light is a FUCKING LOT to block out. Even gas giant occultation only results in what, between 1% and 2% of light?
What kind of family of comets has that amount of fucking STUFF in them? That'd require a SIGNIFICANT proportion of our Oort cloud, disturbed in just the right way that they don't just get fired out to space or right into the star.
The odds of that, and that we're able to actually witness it, are unbelievably low, almost impossibly so. It always requires assumptions, including that this thing even has an Oort of its own.
But, that is still the most likely.

Of course, the alien idea also relies on vast assumptions and impossible odds which we can't even calculate, but it's far more exciting and I am insisting on telling everyone there might be aliens.

All of this said, there are quite a few interesting things that have happened in space; a disappearing dust disk, unexpectedly empty/cold regions, bizarre variable stars, etc. We've witnessed some WEIRD shit happening in weird timescales. I'm not saying it's AYY LMAO, but there's plenty of evidence that either we don't have a great model, or that there's plenty of things out there, natural or unnatural, that can fuck with things in impossible ways.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:49:28 2015 No.7591192 >>7590428 Actually the scary thing is more what happens when we make first contact with a less advanced species? We are many things, but not peaceful.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:54:16 2015 No.7591201 >>7591192 You mean niggers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 10:54:19 2015 No.7591202 File: 763 KB, 108x160, le dancing mexican.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7588580 I came here to shitpost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrZRIW87eWI AYY LMAO

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:01:47 2015 No.7591207
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>>7591184
also it just HAD to be right around the constellation cygnus

not some other fucking part of the sky, fucking cygnus, the one all the tinfoils are saying is important, that past cultures were trying to tell us of the importance of that part of the sky

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:01:51 2015 No.7591208 >>7590310 kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:03:01 2015 No.7591210 >>7591207 ayyyy

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:03:07 2015 No.7591211 >>7591207 in case that image is confusing, the green circles are showing that the constellation orion does not match the third pyramid, but cygnus is bang on

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:04:21 2015 No.7591212

>>7591192
First of all, how is that scary if we can just slaughter them anytime?
Second, there is no way we will slaughter the first alien race we encounter in our history even if they're barely smarter than apes.
I'm sure that by the 3rd or 4th alien civilization we encounter we'll probably start colonizing though because the novelty will wear off.

Now imagine a more advanced alien species that already had contact with other aliens and we're the 100th species or so they discover.
Why not enslave us to get our planet's resources ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:05:09 2015 No.7591214 >>7589156 Imagine a uniform structure that always blocks a given percentage of the star's light, with additional asymmetrical structures that can block up to 22% more light from the star.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:07:06 2015 No.7591215 >>7591212 There is nothing of value on Earth that you can't find elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:08:31 2015 No.7591217 >>7591215 It doesn't matter, it's free labor and it's not their planet, they couldn't give a fuck if they drained it. Literally free resources.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:08:46 2015 No.7591220 They're 2400 years ahead of that point - what if they're all already dead? Destroyed by unforseen consequences of their Dyson sphere? What if we visit, and find nothing there, what does that forbode for us?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:11:56 2015 No.7591224 >>7591217 Logistics are not free.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:12:34 2015 No.7591228

>>7591220
>They're 2400 years ahead of that point - what if they're all already dead?
alien contact isn't going to happen
BUT
if light is coming from a dyson sphere it means a civilization is nearby, emiting radio waves with useful data

that's what I'm interested about
I can't wait to see alien seinfeld

oh god I hope they haven't outlasted radio waves

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:13:06 2015 No.7591231 >>7591224 It doesn't have to be free though just profitable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:17:26 2015 No.7591237 >>7591217 >>7591217 Because gravity is a bitch. The resources on Earth are less plentiful and more expensive to acquire than those on the assorted small rocks in the solar system for any species that has the ability to travel interstellar distances.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:23:34 2015 No.7591246 >>7591237 This. Funny thing is, something capable of travelling between stars is not necessarily capable of landing on a hi-g world.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:25:36 2015 No.7591251

>>7591228
>if light is coming from a dyson sphere it means a civilization is nearby, emiting radio waves with useful data
Not it doesn't, there's no guarantee they're using radio waves.

But if they're not using radio waves, it's certainly possible their technology emits RFI.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:26:16 2015 No.7591252
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>>7591228
>oh god I hope they haven't outlasted radio waves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

This thing is about 32 billion times farther than our moon, so their radio signal strength is 10^-21 (a ten-billionth of a billionth of a percent) of what that strength would be if they were broadcasting from somewhere as close as our moon.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:35:22 2015 No.7591267 They're building a giant relativistic cannon to blow us up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:43:30 2015 No.7591279 >>7589950 >2% success rate, meaning 98% of the people killed by drones are civilians That's not what success rate means. It's not like every bomb that drops and misses automatically hits civies

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:50:53 2015 No.7591297 File: 113 KB, 753x1100, gantz_c323_017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7590714 >tfw no giant alien loli to cuddle you

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:51:38 2015 No.7591298 >>7590918 I tried, it never gives me work

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:52:53 2015 No.7591301 >>7591298 I had to disable GPU tasks because my computer was going to explode, but got CPU running it just seems kinda slow, I've got a decent CPU but it still takes 3 hours per task

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:55:15 2015 No.7591305 >>7591297 this better not be vore

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:56:05 2015 No.7591307 File: 237 KB, 637x636, shave balls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591207 ITS........................ HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:56:31 2015 No.7591310 >>7591207 this shit is fucked up

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:57:33 2015 No.7591313 File: 85 KB, 960x960, 1424949116464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591207 AYY

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 11:57:51 2015 No.7591315 >>7591207 Stargate confirmed for soft disclosure, pyramids were landing pads for alien ships

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:00:16 2015 No.7591321 >>7591305 It's Gantz the most fucked up thing i've ever done read.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:01:28 2015 No.7591323 "Due to the recent mechanical failure of the Kepler space telescope, the star's most recent predicted 750-day dip was not recorded by Kepler" fek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:02:32 2015 No.7591325 >>7591207 The distance between albirse or whatever and the center is longer than the pyramid shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:03:34 2015 No.7591327 >>7591323 almost a big coincidence as all those asteroids breaking down at the same time :^)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:06:17 2015 No.7591333 >>7591323 lunimati confurmed

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:06:31 2015 No.7591334 File: 415 KB, 1881x409, whoa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whoa, trippy

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:07:08 2015 No.7591335
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>>7590945
>We are less barbaric than we used to be.
We don't, as civilizations, kill people en mass because we are "barbaric". We may go about it with varying levels of brutality, but we initiate the slaughter for cold, hard, logical reasons. In most cases, due to resources, economics, and strategic power, in other words, to ensure the civilization's survival, both short term and long. This has been true since the first cities were built, if not before.

An ancient alien civilization is going to be thinking very long term, in regards to its survival, by definition. Its very existence is a monument to that fact.

Thus, they have a very logical reason to wipe out any other species they discover that has any chance in the future, however distant, of becoming a threat.

That's not "old thinking", that's just simple logic.

Granted, it's not something to worry about, anymore than say, False Vacuum, as there's nothing you can do about it, and you'll never see it coming.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:07:27 2015 No.7591336 >>7590983 >clone You mean 3D printed down to the molecular level.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:12:34 2015 No.7591350

>>7591335
>as there's nothing you can do about it,
if there's anything we're good at, it's war

maybe they've had a shittier history and they don't have our strategy, I want to believe we could win against a slightly more advanced civilization

if they're dyson swarm tier we're fucked though

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:17:00 2015 No.7591353 >>7588580 What is the point of naming stars with random numbers and letters? There has to be millions of them. No one will be able to name them. No one cares about bfg357337 in the gsdf cluster.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:17:22 2015 No.7591354 >>7591350 >if there's anything we're good at, it's war >he thinks humans are particularly good at war because humans have focused on becoming effective at killing other humans Yeah dude, and someone who commits suicide has mastery over life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:18:01 2015 No.7591356 File: 357 KB, 500x696, CELnPfk.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591305 it's vore. and genocide, and NWO and body horror and humans becoming vermin on a giant alien space-city. Gantz mufucka.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:18:10 2015 No.7591357 >>7591354 you're using broken logic just to be a contrarian examine your feelings, you know it to be true

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:18:29 2015 No.7591358 >>7589086 With the rate medicine is increasing, maybe not

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:18:56 2015 No.7591360 >>7591353 Except the people who study the bfg357337 in the gsdf cluster, obviously.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:19:05 2015 No.7591361

Honestly it sounds like we're screwed. Our best outcome here is that the AI singularity occurs some few hundred years prior to first contact and our robotic predecessors, the children and legacy of mankind, are more resilient too hyper advanced alien lifeforms and that the earth itself is too valuable a commodity to the aliens that they don't simply destroy it from orbit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:19:44 2015 No.7591362 >>7591353 Except the guys who are studying bfg357337. And the guys who are cataloging the stars in the gsdf cluster. You nigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:19:53 2015 No.7591363 File: 28 KB, 335x333, 1440361433273.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591361 >AI singularity >best outcome

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:22:19 2015 No.7591365 >>7591363 Robots that withstand and alien invasion that we created is a continuation of human history. Aliens that exterminate us us an end to human history.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:23:20 2015 No.7591366 File: 1012 KB, 192x108, 1441444347808.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591365 >AI with better resources and more advanced technology will lose to AI with worse resources and worse technology

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:25:41 2015 No.7591373 >>7589394 The good news is that it will take at least 1300 years for them to detect us. We could use this as a way to rally people up in order to boost our technology. We could say we need to get ready for alien contact or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:26:22 2015 No.7591374 >>7591366 If they're organics they'll have advanced at a rate far slower than synthetics. Especially if the synthetics have reason to except an imminent threat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:27:02 2015 No.7591375 >>7590310 Thats a relative idea and relative to everything we see around us we are the most advanced and intelligent civ

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:27:22 2015 No.7591376 >>7591374 I'm saying that why do you assume they won't be synthetics? Transhumanism/transalienism is the future of every society.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:28:03 2015 No.7591377
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>>7591350
Any space faring civilization could drop dark rocks on us that we'd never see coming until it was too late, and there's a lot of those around here to use. Alternatively, if they can accelerate anything bigger than a pickup truck to relativistic speeds, then similarly, they could wipe us all out before we could ever see it coming.

Now, if they wanted us alive, maybe some sorta biological harvest, or had some similar reason to come to the ground, you might have a chance.

There's also always the X-Com scenario ie. "retarded aliens", that want us alive. The retarded alien scenario isn't entirely unlikely. Given better homogeneity and a few million-years head start, the aliens might be stupid, just having had a lot more time to perfect their technology, which might be easy, in turn, for our smarter selves to take apart.

But yes, if a Dyson sphere tier civilization wants us dead, or even alive, ain't nadda we can do to stop them... And, given the time scale, that sorta civilization is something we're more likely to encounter, as it's likely been space faring for millions of years. The odds of us encountering a freshly space faring civilization are slim to none, as that stage would be a blink of an eye in comparison. What's worse, a civilization that advanced would be a lot less apt to have a reason to want us alive. There's no unique resource nor biological variance we could possibly have that'd be of value to the possessor of technology so incomprehensible, not that it couldn't already easily create itself, and simulate all the possible eventualities there from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:29:39 2015 No.7591378 Seriously how credible is the comet hypotesis? I'm not saying it's ayy, but is this really our best guess given current astrophysics knowledge?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:29:50 2015 No.7591379

>>7591376
I don't necessarily assume that I'm just saying that a transhuman earth is our best chance against hostile advanced human life. It's certainly possible that the robots get rolled too but they have a better chance with prep time than humans would.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:29:57 2015 No.7591380 >>7591377 >even if we get lucky that just means we become that kind of society

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:31:00 2015 No.7591383 >>7591379 Someone already said they can just blow us up from orbit

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:31:10 2015 No.7591384

>>7591357
Yeah I was being contrarian.
But you have no evidence humans are particularly good at war among intelligent species.
I dislike people saying "humans are good at x!" as if the universe is some MMO and everything needs a gimmick. Not only that, but because we haven't seen any other non-earth species saying that humans would be good at Y on a universal scale is pretty dumb.
Chances are any other intelligent species we come across is going to be better or worse than us at everything depending upon if they are more or less intelligent than humans. That is, unless there are common universal 'limits' on reality where if you catch up to reach the limit you can be equal to others who have reached the limit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:32:43 2015 No.7591387 >>7591383 In my very first post on this topic I based this all on the assumption that they had some reason not to destroy earth. >>7591361

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:32:55 2015 No.7591388 >>7591384 The thing is that evolution is an universal constant, and war to the limits we've taken it goes against evolution. That's why I think it might be a safe bet to assume we're pretty good at war, if we've broken the rules.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:34:04 2015 No.7591390 >>7591387 they can just fly away even if we defeat them, they'll just come back in bigger numbers, it's not like the military is more than 10% of a society

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:35:40 2015 No.7591392 >>7591390 Okay well if we withstand their first invasion because of tranahumanism we've already done better than we would on the same time-frame as organics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:35:59 2015 No.7591393 >>7591357 O-Obi Wan?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:36:28 2015 No.7591397

>>7591379
Best chance for survival would be to setup colonies elsewhere, as far and wide as possible. Granted, that possibility seems about as distant and likely as any singularity.

But if transcendence into a synthetic form is the natural route for any technological civilization, they will have done the same, done it a long time before us, and likely, done it better. In itself, it's no more likely to aid in our survival in a battle against them than any other technological advancement. To make matters worse, if they have done this as well, then the whole possibility of "retarded aliens with a head start" goes out the window.

It would improve our odds of survival against say, non-sentient aliens. Passing space whales dropping biologically incompatible spores on our world, or some such. Certainly improve odds of survival against most natural disasters. It'd improve the odds of our being able to spread ourselves throughout the galaxy, and beyond, thus ensuring our survival against near anything that doesn't destroy the universe itself. But if we all stay here? It's all for nadda.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:40:33 2015 No.7591404 >>7591392 >we wasted 1000 years of our technological progress in lasting a single wave instead of getting better "fly away" technology

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:40:40 2015 No.7591405

>>7591397
If they reach us here then they can reach any colonies we set up even if we set out to create them as far as possible and as many directions as possible right now. Unless we have no record of the colonies existing on earth and the colonies emitted no visible signs of existing. Is that even possible?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:43:16 2015 No.7591411

>>7591377
>A few million years

A few million years society would be unrecognizable. Technological progress happens really fast.

The dyson sphere aliens, if they prove to be real, would probably just be a few thousand years ahead of us.

>>7590936
>Evolved

That's highly speculative. The only way we can imagine something like this, is if we swap our bodies for robot like ones, since organics are inefficient.

So instead of organics, now we have a robot like civilization who will lack any kind of empathy. A civilization like that would just wipe out any potential competition.

It's a worse scenario.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:45:56 2015 No.7591415 >>7590725 because you're not trying to eliminate the light source of the rest of the planets in your system. aka if the equator of the star is in line with the orbital planes of your system's planets, then you wouldn't want to block out the light

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:46:22 2015 No.7591416 >>7590983 Just like everyone else is buying artificial diamonds instead of the real stuff?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:46:48 2015 No.7591417

>>7591388
Just means were better at it than any species on THIS planet - and it doesn't even mean that - just means we're the first to reach this level, and thus no other species here ever will do the same, at least, not without our assistance and blessing, or extinction.

If carbon based life is common, and civilizations such as ours are popping up all over, odds are, we're mediocre, at best, especially given how wonderfully goldieloxed this planet is set next to some of the more extreme possibilities. And yeah, doesn't matter how good you are at war, when you can barely detect a large black rock hurdling towards your planet (and have, historically, failed to do so until after near misses by such). Every member of your species can be worth a thousand Alexander the Greats, Hannibals, and Pattons combined, doesn't help one iota against a thousand baseballs hurdling towards you at near light speed from only the gods know where.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:48:13 2015 No.7591420 >>7591417 callisto colony when

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:48:28 2015 No.7591421

>>7591397
>Passing space whales dropping biologically incompatible spores on our world, or some such.
Is this even possible, or strictly science fiction?
How would something that lives in space and reproduces by spore dumping on planets even evolve?
What do they eat?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:49:31 2015 No.7591423

>>7591405
Means they have to reach those colonies in turn, before they send out more colonies themselves.

Assuming there's no FTL involved, it's a fail safe survival plan - just need to keep setting up colonies and make more of the same, to create an endless space race against extinction.

If FTL is a thing, however, then yeah, you're boned, barring maybe some really good security and colonies made with that in mind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:52:55 2015 No.7591424 >>7589258 Underrated post.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:54:19 2015 No.7591426

Would be funny though if the religious folks turned out to be right and an omnipotent God appeared and bitch slapped the aliens out of the galaxy for fucking with his sandbox. Course an omnipotent entity could simply ensure that these events never transpire in the first place rather than making a spectacle of resolving them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 12:54:51 2015 No.7591428 >>7588964 this is what botheres me too 1500 lightyears away thats like them looking at us in 500 after christ

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:01:21 2015 No.7591440 >>7591421 >Passing space whales dropping biologically incompatible spores on our world you've read worm, haven't you?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:02:07 2015 No.7591441
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>>7591411
>robot like civilization who will lack any kind of empathy
Damn that Hollywood trope. There's no reason an AI would lack empathy and emotion. If it was designed and built with something that valued empathy and emotion, odds are, it will have those same attributes. Emotion, really, is about the easiest thing to simulate - hell, we can do that now (and do it all the time in video games with escorts). Empathy, is, after all, what makes civilization possible.

But yes, if the civilization is millions of years old, it still has every logical reason to wipe out any potential competition. Practicality often overrides empathy, at least among our own species.

Thousands of years, however, does not necessarily give it that kind of broad perspective. Further, technology also doesn't necessarily progress at that rate, especially if the species in question values its biological form, and has cultural limitations, that might lead to the ban of AI, and the like (perhaps they survived a Skynet incident).

If technology was a linear ramp with no hurdles, we'd have colonized this entire system and beyond ages ago. Shit happens. As a result of our own self-limiting, odds are pretty good we'll never leave this rock before the biosphere can no longer sustain us, for one reason or another. Even though we're fully aware of the likelihood of this, and fully capable of doing something about it, we have cultural reasons to focus on the short term, which, despite every survival oriented motivation for it to be otherwise, is why no human being has been higher than near orbit in over forty years.

No doubt, other civilizations, will suffer from similar self-inflicted hurdles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:06:06 2015 No.7591451 OH FUCK IS IT HAPPENING WILL I FINALLY MANAGE TO GET MYSELF A CUTIE ALIEN GIRL IN MY LIFETIME

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:07:20 2015 No.7591453 >>7591440 Nope. Summarize it please?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:08:57 2015 No.7591458 >>7591453 Nope, I technically kinda spoiled it for you, but https://parahumans.wordpress.com/table-of-contents/ it's good, go in with no expectations if you have the time (it's as long as song of ice and fire)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:11:33 2015 No.7591464 File: 49 KB, 480x360, 1423437887543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7588988 >>7589015 >you're Fucking faggots go back to your real boards /sci/ is reserved for the intelligent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:12:05 2015 No.7591467 >>7591207 kek

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:13:22 2015 No.7591472
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>>7591421
Biologically speaking, it's very possible, and there's several theories musing about how such things may come to be. There's even the possibility that the Earth itself, at one point in its history, nearly became such a beast. All it takes it one microbial species to breed out of control enough to cover the entire planet, for it to in turn adapt layers of varying functions to maintain survival of the whole, from the outside in, feeding primarily on the heat created by the sheer mass of the thing.

We've spotted enough warm asteroids, with ice trapped on them (and thus possibly water - such as seems to be the case with Siris), that this becomes a possibility on a smaller scale. That there maybe such biological masses out there, floating among the stars. Evolution dictates that, if there's enough of them, they may also develop primitive propulsion, maybe via buildups of gas, to avoid being swallowed by stars, presuming the total mass of the planetoid on which they formed is low enough. They may, similarly, reproduce by spreading specialized colonies of themselves onto other rocks, and that could be a problem, depending on how resilient and aggressive such colonies are.

Granted, the sci-fi version tends to be a bit over the top.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:16:18 2015 No.7591483 >>7591325 that part is underground

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:17:22 2015 No.7591487 >>7591483 I don't think you're getting my point it matches the toprightbottomleft diagonal, but the rest doesn't match

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:23:35 2015 No.7591506 >>7590728 double fucking mega kek

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:24:55 2015 No.7591510
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>>7591472
There's also the possibilities of aliens creating such things - for the fuck of it.

A lot of science is driven by "just to see if we can" curiosity, so who knows what franken-beasts are floating around out there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:25:51 2015 No.7591514 >>7591426 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:27:58 2015 No.7591518 >>7591514 >an omnipotent entity could simply ensure X You can cause so many fedoras to tip with this simple precept. Fuck you Tomas Aquinas, ya had to go ruin everything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:46:57 2015 No.7591575 >>7591518 I don't understand anything in this post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:48:57 2015 No.7591581 File: 233 KB, 620x284, Frozen-Ocean-The-Dyson-Swarm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591086 Not necessarily.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:49:35 2015 No.7591584 >>7591487 draw it in mspaint what you are saying, the crossbar of cygnus matches and thats all it was saying

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:51:42 2015 No.7591589 File: 274 KB, 489x350, meh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591584 it doesn't work

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:53:51 2015 No.7591601
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>>7591086
None of these artist's renderings are small or local enough to show the most likely first step of a Dyson Swarm in our own solar system.

It would look just like the existing asteroid belt, but with solar arrays and microwave transmitters and huge maneuvering thrusters installed on the asteroids.

Positioning 100,000 or so solar asteroids into a roughly semi-spherical array with the microwave transmitters focused onto the moon (for safety) to relay the energy to Earth is conceivable, even for us.

It would not look anything like these Star Trek tier visions. It would look like a bunch of rocks.

pic related.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 13:56:53 2015 No.7591610 >>7591601 But the asteroid belt looks nothing like that. That's closer to planetary rings if anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:24:16 2015 No.7591659 >>7591610 which is why the hypothesis it's just a few broken asteroids is bullshit NASA is just trying to contain panic, imagine the shitposting after we find aliens and we can't do anything to contact them

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:43:42 2015 No.7591686
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>>7589965
I... I want to talk to Mega...

She didn't use our filthy retard name that I failed to get changed that one time...

She had my heart at "Sol III" instead of "Earth".

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:46:51 2015 No.7591689 Sol III is such a better name than Earth I mean, it's literally the word for dirt

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:53:43 2015 No.7591697

>>7591689
That was EXACTLY my argument when I tried to get it changed by starting a group.

"Hey alierms!! We am form teh planert DIRT!! Look at how am so filthy!! Huehuehue!!!!!"

I can't imagine that... Having to address another intelligent species when we literally named our planet "dirt"... It's so fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:54:56 2015 No.7591699 >>7591697 I was referencing the last episode of Rick and Morty, but I kinda agree. Sol in general is such a better name, unique and related.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:59:35 2015 No.7591706

>>7591699
Oh, I see. Yeah, I've only seen like maybe 1 episode of Rick and Morty.

But I've thought about it a lot, really. We named all our other planets after Gods and Goddesses... but we named our own home planet "dirt".

It actually is kinda depressing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 14:59:39 2015 No.7591707 >>7591697 Let's just call ourselves terra like in all our scifi movies to not confuse the aliens.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:00:40 2015 No.7591709 >>7591706 >not naming our planet Tiamat, Zeus, or even Enki

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:06:01 2015 No.7591719

>>7591697

Stop being silly.

Our meeting will look like us talking to niggers.

No matter how much we pounce with sophistication and what name we will use for our home planet ayylmaos will still be uncomprehensibly more intelligent to us.

Probably will think its cute that we use such packed with meaning meme and form interesting relationship with damn ball of crust and lava flying through space.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:18:27 2015 No.7591737 >>7591014 Congratulations, you're a dumb, uncultured autist. >inb4 triggered art fag I'm a STEM major, just not an autistic faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:19:20 2015 No.7591742 >>7591737 >this babby thinks sociology or psychology are STEM

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:25:59 2015 No.7591760

>>7591719
But, that's unacceptable...

It should turn out like that creepypasta...
http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Mankind

We should go out and be a combination of feared and revered, despite being lunatics. We're "mostly harmless" as HHGG says, but we come from the Crazy Part of Space.

And we can't be crazy if we name our planet something dumb like "dirt". "Dirtlings" is neither scary sounding, nor politically empowered, and it just makes us sound too dumb to be taken seriously.

Even if they have better tech than us, we have to at least be taken seriously, and as dirt-dwellers, that won't happen...

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:28:57 2015 No.7591764 I propose the name Dragonforce, it's a straight upgrade from inferior material

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:35:30 2015 No.7591779 >>7591760 Yeah... i think the same thing about niggers tho. They look cute trying to be tough and gangsta and all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:35:31 2015 No.7591780 >>7591334 thats too big coincidence.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:35:41 2015 No.7591781

>>7591764
Ok, if we're going all-out here, we can keep Earth's name as Sol III, and we'll call our solar system and eventual outposts and acquisitions as "The Empire of Solaria".
>I always liked the name Solaris from Sun Micro.

I think it's a sick name, really. Of course, the planet's individual name can stay debated. Maybe something with Gaia in it (although, I'm against "TerraGaia" as I've heard).

But for now, consider Sol III or the Solarian Empire.
We are the third planet in the Empire of the Sun.

There is such a majestic feel to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:36:46 2015 No.7591784 >>7591781 Sorry, Sol III OF the Solarian Empire

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:39:11 2015 No.7591792 >>7591781 >>7591784 it's equivalent to gibba of the gibban empire aliens won't have the same associations we have to the sun

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:39:34 2015 No.7591794 >>7591784 I think You meant Walmart 3 of the Google Hegemony.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:46:03 2015 No.7591813 >>7591742 Biology counts?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:49:56 2015 No.7591819
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>>7591792
I understand that, but Sol is still OUR Sun.

And, since it essentially means Sun or star, it's a hell of a lot better than "dirt"

Dirt is... silent, doesn't do anything really, and it is used by life, because it doesn't have it's own ability to do things.

But, naming ourselves after a star has a sense of power.

It may not be the biggest star, or the most mature, or even the brightest, but it's still a giant ball of pure energy.

The naming scheme, since Sol is, for the most part, synonymous with star, just in specific OUR star, it's basically giving us a progressive persona.
>We are not limited to where we started
>We are not limited to who we are
>We go out there; we do crazy things; and we fucking succeed
>We are an empire of power
>A strong, burning flame in the darkness
>Try to do something dumb, and you're fucked
>But work WITH us, and we're a great asset

It's a name of power, a name of adventure, a name of passion.
We leave this solar system, and we are make contact with an aura of majesty. We are a bright spec on a dark map.

THAT is why Solaria is a good name. That's why it doesn't matter if they even care about our star in specific; we are a people of the STARS; it just so happens we came from THIS one, and it belongs to us.

There are many stars out there like it, but this one is ours.
However, all stars have power, and everyone has a Sol of their own; we are a people of the stars, a people of power, a people illuminated by knowledge, ambition, and passion. A fiery race.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 15:52:21 2015 No.7591825 >>7591794 Oh yeah, forgot to comment on this one. It made me kek.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 16:12:06 2015 No.7591881 File: 32 KB, 740x308, purity[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7591813 only a step above

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 16:26:18 2015 No.7591918 >>7591589 the second pic is not to scale

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 16:53:08 2015 No.7591985 >>7591575 Consider yourself lucky.

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 16:55:53 2015 No.7591993
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>>7591077
what if...
guise
what if there's not such thing as poison berries?
what if it was just some guy who was like... really allergic, and we're all missing out on some awesome tasting berries?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 17:12:44 2015 No.7592035 >>7591267 read "Usurper of the Sun" if anything is being sent this way it's probably more likely to be akin to a gigantic solar sail propelled craft powered by a ginormous gamma-laser

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 17:13:59 2015 No.7592039 >>7591298 >>7591301 wtf is this? wat r u on aboot?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 17:15:38 2015 No.7592043 >>7591323 how convenient

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 17:18:24 2015 No.7592054 >>7591323 you think someone would do that? go IRL and tell lies?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 17:19:29 2015 No.7592056 >>7592039 http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 17:21:03 2015 No.7592061 >>7591361 >predecessors >successors ftfy ishiggydiggy

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 18:00:07 2015 No.7592133 >>7591709 not naming our planet Ba'al, God of Storms

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 19:54:53 2015 No.7592389 >>7590310 as far as we know, we're the most advanced thing around you dull fucker

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 19:58:27 2015 No.7592396 I know how we all like to sulk in the mire of despair and talk about how 4chan is dead, but this has been a very worthwhile thread. Sure there was a lot of shitposting, but it really had its moments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 20:25:17 2015 No.7592459 >>7592396 Yeah it was pretty fun. Same time next week?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 21:25:44 2015 No.7592592 >>7592459 Sure fam

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 21:28:00 2015 No.7592598 >>7588824 It's 2015 and Clover is still a buggy mess? This is why I don't use any 4chan apps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 21:29:54 2015 No.7592602 What if instead of waiting for the slowass speed of light to try to communicate why don't we just fly up there like we did in the 60/70's?

Anonymous Thu Oct 15 22:02:10 2015 No.7592663

>>7592602
I seriously don't understand that sentiment in this thread. Sure light is pretty slow, but we have the EM drive which has been proven to travel faster than light using warp technology. Aren't the calculations not that difficult to just send a ship with the em drive to the star, take pictures and then fly back?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 22:13:40 2015 No.7592680 >>7589346 The first signals we ever emitted are like 70 light years away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 22:56:39 2015 No.7592755 How awkward would it be if all civilizations named their home planets after their word for dirt?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 23:07:49 2015 No.7592777 >>7592755 i would love nothing more than to know this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 15 23:48:42 2015 No.7592866 >>7589060 200,000 years we've been around for anon, not millions.

Anonymous Fri Oct 16 00:05:53 2015 No.7592905

>>7591335
>kill people en mass because we are "barbaric"
No, you don't realize what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about wars and logical killing. Have you never seen historic documentaries? Killing each other, killing animals for any form of entertainment is what's barbaric.

>Thus, they have a very logical reason to wipe out any other species they discover that has any chance in the future, however distant, of becoming a threat.
I have never disputed this or called it old thinking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 16 00:58:47 2015 No.7593015 >>7590145 >>7590162 This is a really brilliantly written rebuttal

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