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7582531 No.7582531 [Reply] [Original]

Come here, shit posters and serious adults. You are all welcome to tonight's discussion.

Everyone here likes to shit on the career choices of others but this usually happens in unrelated threads, derailing the discussion.

Not here!
This is all about arguing ones importance to society.

Post your degree(s) and defend their importance to society. You can use anything, from actual data, to anecdotal evidence, to complete bullshit.

To keep the discussion unbiased (to not make people of my career immediately feel at home) I will not post my defense here, but instead I will eventually post it below so that everyone can feel included.

>> No.7582573

Everyone here is a fucking loser and worthless to society

>> No.7582600
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>>7582531

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>>7582531
>tfw you realize how true OPs pic is

>> No.7582628

Chemistry reporting in
Good for society: drugs
Bad for society: bombs
prove me wrong

>> No.7582636

>>7582600
This is factually wrong.

>solve whichever one they can and are funded for

And how do they get this funding?
A scientist can either have a private company that earns money doing some normal stuff that then goes to fund the company's research in some stopic, or the scientist can work in academia, teaching undergrad and graduate classes to earn their living and the right to ask for funding to the universities money department.

Scientist don't do researh 24/7. First because it would kill them, and second because that is not supportable. Working as a college teacher or a consultant or anything else gives good value to society. At least the same as an engineer.

And if you are one of the 1/100 scientists whose research yields amazing results that change that field of study then you will forever be remembered as one of the greatest human beings that ever existed.

>> No.7582639

>>7582636
>1/100
>amazing results
try 1/100,000 m8 don't pat yourself on the back.

>> No.7582645

>>7582639
Hey, it was that guy who used the 99/100 number, not me.

>> No.7582654

>>7582600
>Look how much of a big man i am for using the black theme

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>>7582654
wtf

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I'm a paleontologist.
How is that useful, might you ask? Simple; we make sure that ecologists are on the right track. In order to understand how current ecosystems work (and I don't think I really need to justify this to /sci/ given today's problems), we need to have access to examples of past ecosystems. That's where we come in; we're the ones figuring out why the biosphere is the way it is today, which informs how we go about managing it.

Also, we're good at evangelizing science. Kids get interested when they see the results of paleontology because dinosaurs are cool, yo.
>implying dinosaurs are the coolest things in paleontology

>> No.7582669

>>7582663
Damn, I've never seen a paleontologist in /sci/. You must have unique insight!

What is your honest opinion on engineers?

>> No.7582673

>>7582663
Why don't you study the past ecosystem of your mom's pussy last night when I was fucking it.

>> No.7582674

>>7582669
My honest opinion is that engineers are quite valuable to society. They're the ones who take new discoveries (and old ones for that matter) and make them work for practical purposes.
In the interest of honesty, I am the son of an engineer, so I've been around engineers a good bit.

>> No.7582680

>>7582673
this cuck's just jelly because he will never know the joy of excavating the remains of the awe-inspiring Tyrannosaurus rex, and I did before I even turned twenty.

>> No.7582681

>>7582674
>son of an engineer
b-b-but /sci/ told me that they're g-gay

>> No.7582684

>>7582680
I know you guys are quite good and handling big bones.

>> No.7582692

My 'degree' is Aircraft Maintenance Engineering Licences. 6 figures any where in the world especially on euro rotorcraft. No debt and ive worked on some cool unique aircraft in my time. Do wish i went to uni sometimes

>> No.7582694

>>7582684
but given the sedimentary geology side of things, we also care quite a lot about cleavage.

>>7582692
thank you for preventing us from dying horribly in a crash

>> No.7582700

>>7582663
Damn, how is the job market? Also hows/what's the yearly pay?

>> No.7582703

>>7582700
not much of a job market, honestly. your options are to work for an oil company doing biostratigraphy stuff or to get a research/teaching position at a uni or museum.
right now I'm a lowly graduate assistant, so I'm focusing more on my education, but my research assistantship pays me $3k a semester. if I can get a research spot right after my thesis, I'll do all right.

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>>7582663
>>7582703
>paleontologist
>I'm a lowly graduate assistant

like when physics majors call themselves physicists

>> No.7582712

>>7582707
I'm actually getting paid to do paleontological research for an accredited university. it's loads different than being an undergrad.

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Economics reporting. More than anything, Econ has to take in all the new innovations/ideas of everyone else and figure out how that needs to work into models regarding legitimate human well being. From that Econ can discern the best way to utilize certain innovations in a given society.

>> No.7582816

Economics

It's not very important to society.
Unless of course you are using it in order to improve social outcomes and promote equity. Most however, use it for finance and business i.e. Useless.

There is the argument though that without economics/ banking, society would not be able to have large amounts of agriculture, support large populations etc. (money is needed rather than a bartering process).

>> No.7582850

>>7582816
> Unless of course you are using it in order to improve social outcomes and promote equity.
Bullshit empty words use to justify taxing and 'redistributing wealth'

>> No.7582861

>>7582531
Damn. Lost it at the TI-89 in the last panel. How fucking true is that pic?

>> No.7582877

>>7582788
Okay, but mostly you just run regressions all day

>>7582850
Just because something is used to promote policies you personally feel are unfair, does not take away from its intrinsic value and significance.

The idea of a society that has no interest in improving outcomes for or promoting equity among its citizens is so absurdly dystopian as to be unrealistic.

>> No.7583137

>>7582877
>>7582850
societies are judged by how well they take care of their disabled and elderly.

>> No.7583146

Physics

I know it's useless just hoping I'll get employed as a quant or something tbh

>> No.7583178

>>7582600
That's the difference between researchers (including engineering researchers) and working SEs.

90% of scientists will spend most of their career serving as lab monkeys doing 100s of assays every day for QC purposes.

>> No.7583217

>>7582531
Maths
I'm not going to defend its importance to society, that's not autistic enough.

>> No.7583403

>>7582663
I am real glad you guys meme'd me! I finished that part btw.

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>>7583178
Engineers will spend 90% of their day sucking on cocks though so pitch whichever you like