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BENGALURU: After toiling on it for nearly half his life, 80-year-old Paramahamsa Tewari finally received validation for his space generator - a super high-efficiency machine that produces power from vacuum.

A prototype of the machine tested by Kirloskar ElectricBSE exhibited 165% efficiency, said Murlidhar Rao, former director of Karnataka Power Corporation (KPCL), assisting Tewari.Through an agreement signed earlier, the Kirloskar group company can now enter into a contract .


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/46832793.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

>> No.7559054
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7559054

TESLA HATERS BTFO

>> No.7559063

sounds legit...

>> No.7559069

tewariParamahamsa Tewari was born on January 6, 1937, and graduated in Electrical Engineering in 1958 from Banaras Engineering College, India, and held responsible positions in large engineering construction organizations, mostly in Nuclear Projects of the Department of Atomic Energy, India. He was also deputed abroad for a year at Douglas Point Nuclear Project, Canada. He retired in 1997 from his position as Executive Nuclear Director, Nuclear Power Corporation, Department of Atomic Energy, India, and is the former Project Director of the Kaiga Atomic Power Project.

>> No.7559093

indiatimes

didnt even bother to click

>> No.7559105

>>7559049
This is slightly more believable than the meme drive.

>> No.7559128

>>7559049

>under certain conditions.

Yeah, right.

>> No.7559130

Good. they can use that machine to designate more shitting streets so stupid ideas like this dont get out.

>> No.7559137

>look mom I posted it again

>> No.7559140

>>7559049
articles are all over the net from earlier this year, and yet the scientific community isn't fucking ablaze with people repeating the discovery.

gee i wonder why..

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>>7559049

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>>7559140

gee i wonder why

>> No.7559325

THE FUTURE IS HERE

>> No.7559373

why is it always magnets?

>> No.7559379

The fuel of this machine is infinite POO

>> No.7559381

>>7559049
POO
TO THE
LOO

>> No.7559401

I believe, as do the engineers in India, that this is the biggest breakthrough in rotating electrical machine design since Faraday’s invention of the electrical motor in 1832. The elimination of back torque allows all the energy generated to pass through the machine. Power output is determined by the strength of the excitation magnets and the synchronous reactance (resistance at 50/60 Hz) of the stator windings. Current models can be cascaded for higher output. Each machine can produce at least 2.38 times the input and can be configured in a self-running mode. Due to concentration on efficiency and design improvements the machine has not yet been configured in this manner.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/04/15/breaking-news-over-unity-reactionless-generator-invented-in-india/

>> No.7559405

>>7559401

We believe that the RLG is a fundamental discovery, not an innovation. Mankind’s first fundamental discovery was harnessing and controlling fire. The second was the wheel. The third was harnessing and controlling electricity. The fourth was harnessing and controlling the atom. The RLG can turn wheels without the use of fire (fossil fuels) or the atom (nuclear plants). It is a 21st century innovation. The first four of these innovations involved an understanding of material elements. The RLG is based on an understanding of the non-material properties of space.
Paramahamsa Tewari’s search for the nature of reality has led him from study of the ancient Vedas of India to the formulation of Space Vortex Theory. It is a new theory unifying the relationship between space, mass, inertia, light, and gravity. Starting with principles described in the Vedic texts, Tewari was able to delineate a mathematical model that explains the words of Tesla when he said:

“All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena.” – Nikola Tesla,“Man’s Greatest Achievement,” 1907

In Tewari’s words:

“The universal matter is created out of prana since prana is aakaash in motion, and aakaash is the primordial superfluid substratum of the universe.”

The concept that efficiencies cannot be greater than 100% is due to an incomplete understanding of the properties of space. The second law of thermodynamics must be modified to account for the fact that space is not empty, as has been taught for the last 150 years. The RLG operates at what has been called “over unity.” Many experienced electrical engineers engaged in the manufacture of AC generators have independently tested the RLG and confirmed the efficiency ratings that I have observed.

>> No.7559409

>>7559373
>magnets move each other without any outside forces
>if I make a system of magnets pulling each other, they will never stop pulling each other
>what is potential energy?
>what is system equilibrium?

Basically this.

>> No.7559413

>>7559409

“All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never ending cycles all things and phenomena.” – Nikola Tesla,“Man’s Greatest Achievement,” 1907

>> No.7559430

>>7559401
>Each machine can produce at least 2.38 times the input

No it can't.

>It is a new theory unifying the relationship between space, mass, inertia, light, and gravity. Starting with principles described in the Vedic texts

Erich von Däniken pls go.

>Tewari was able to delineate a mathematical model that explains the words of Tesla when he said:

What is it with you scientifically illiterate faggot's and Tesla? Pro tip Tesla was an idiot who held a pretty atomic, pre Maxwellian world view. No wonder he couldn't build a radio.

>>7559413
That's doesnt answer the question.

>luminiferous ether
Let's add pre relativistic to the list above.

>> No.7559434

>>7559430

"Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists. " -Tesla

LMAO BTFO

>> No.7559440

>>7559434
Further proof Tesla was a retard, notice how he writes in a polemical style without ending in debate, anyone worth anyone's time doesn't do this.

>underlying errors

Such as....

>inb4 "paradoxes"

>> No.7559443

>>7559440

"I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have no properties. It might as well be said that God has properties. He has not, but only attributes and these are of our own making. Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view. "

-Tesla

LMAO FEDORA TIPPERS BTFO AGAIN

>> No.7559446

>>7559443
Is this what passes for argument to some people? Ay well I've got better things to do, in sure there'll be a trap thread on /b/.

>> No.7559448

How can anything have more output than input when energy is consistent and cannot fade away or be created?

>> No.7559449 [DELETED] 

>>7559446

LMAO ANTI TESLA FAGS CONFIRMED TO BE TRAP JERKING HOMOS LMAO BTFO

>> No.7559450

perpetual street shitting

>> No.7559451

>>7559448

The concept that efficiencies cannot be greater than 100% is due to an incomplete understanding of the properties of space. The second law of thermodynamics must be modified to account for the fact that space is not empty, as has been taught for the last 150 years.

>> No.7559452

>>7559449
>on 4chan
>Not being a trap jerking faggot

What are you a queer or something?

>> No.7559453

>>7559451
That's nice.

>> No.7559459

>>7559049

Are there people who really don't trust their own judgement, even to the degree that that don't trust their own understanding of conservation of energy?

If someone told me that they put a billion grains of sand into a jar, I'd think it was remotely possible. That's about a dump truck full, so maybe the jar is huge. If someone told me they put an infinite number of grains of sand into a jar, I'd *know* it wasn't true, sight unseen, credentials unchecked. Who they are, what their setup is, none of it matters. An infinite number of grains of sand is too large to be contained in the universe; it won't fit into *any* jar.

That the overunity drive is a popular impossible technology makes it no less impossible. Why does *anyone* outside of the circle of nuts trying to build one pay them any mind at all?

>> No.7559465

>>7559448
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

>> No.7559468

>>7559459
>That the overunity drive is a popular impossible technology makes it no less impossible. Why does *anyone* outside of the circle of nuts trying to build one pay them any mind at all?
-There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
-- Albert Einstein, 1932.

>> No.7559471 [DELETED] 

>>7559468


LMAO EINSTEINTARDS BTFO AGAIN

>> No.7559476

>>7559459

We thought we *knew* the Earth was flat too

>> No.7559478

>>7559443
Do you have an actual criticism of relativity or do you just have a text file of Tesla quotes?

>> No.7559481

>>7559478

LMAO THE GREAT MIND BEHIND RELATIVITY

-There is not the slightest indication that [nuclear energy] will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.
-- Albert Einstein, 1932.

BTFO

>> No.7559482

>>7559476

Were we any good at science when we thought that?

>What difference does that make?

Quite a lot, it turns out!

>> No.7559486

>>7559481
That's a no then. Okay.

>> No.7559487

>>7559478

> Speed of light is a constant.
> Never mind that gravity effects it.
> Never mind that we can slow it down in a lab.
> Never mind that we measure the speed of light with light.

>> No.7559490

>>7559487
>Speed of light in vacuum is constant.

ftfy.

>> No.7559496

>>7559468

How old of a field was nuclear physics at the time? Less than 50 years? There was a lot mankind didn't know. No one laughed when Einstein said this. At the time, it seemed reasonable. The things learned after 1932 are what moved nuclear power from the realm of fantasy to reality.

How old of a field is thermodynamics? Over 350 years? We know an awful lot about it, and are able to make extremely accurate predictions with it.

There could still be things we don't know that turn everything on its head, and when we hear them, not all in the field will recognize them as being true. But they *will* recognize them as being distinct from nonsense, which is what we have here. No one in the scientific community is saying, "it's interesting, but I think it's false." They are saying, "This isn't even coherent. It does not fit with observations anyone can make, even now. It is a waste of time to consider it further."

>> No.7559497

>>7559487
>Never mind that we can slow it down in a lab.

Not in a vaccum. Are you dense?

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>>7559487
>physical laws which have never been observed beyond minor "technical" exceptions that aren't based on the fundamental mechanics and instead absorption and remittance of light in a medium were meant to be broken.

If over unity could be achieved, what's to stop natural processes from coalescing into an enormous wave of energy from the darkest reaches of space, annihilating everything around by purely by chance interaction.

Free energy BTFO.

>> No.7559502

>>7559434

REKT xD!

>>7559440

>muh cosmological constant

MUH DARK ENERGY MUH DARK MATTER

>> No.7559503

>>7559500

You're trying to use critical thinking with someone incapable of it.

If you're having fun, keep at it. Otherwise, don't waste your time.

>> No.7559504

>>7559496
>Less than 50 years?

Well Rutherford split the atom in 1917, but didn't report it until 1920, so 12-15 years old at the time.

>> No.7559506

>>7559502
>Doesn't like Lambda-CDM

Then why does it describe the evolution of the universe so well.

>> No.7559512

>>7559506

It does a great job describing the universe except accounting for the missing 96% of it.

>> No.7559515

>>7559512
>describing the universe
>Doesn't understand the difference between "evolution of" and "is"

It's like you've not even tried to educate yourself on the these topics, go back to IFLS you fucking pleb.

>> No.7559528

>>7559515

Yes well there sure are a lot of assumptions, guesses, fudges and fabrications for such an accurate model. The cosmic microwave could be aeons of encrypted comms for all we know.

>> No.7559536

>>7559465
Leave it to uneducated faggots to turn one of the most elegant, simple, and easily understood aspects of quantum mechanics into "MUH PERPETUAL ENERGY!"

Go up to any physicist of any kind and propose generating work from zero-point energy and watch them laugh in your face.

>> No.7559542

>>7559528
I want to critique this post but it's not really coherent. Lots of models make simplifying assumptions.

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>>7559528
>The cosmic microwave could be aeons of encrypted comms for all we know.
But in the model it is not and above and beyond it is the best model at describing the powerspectrum of the CMB. In fact Lambda CDM is so powerful it can fit the CMB TT spectra at mid and high l's with just a single free parameter. All others can be measured independently of the CMB. Fitting 6 peaks with one parameter is incredible.
You misunderstand cosmology if you think it's about arguing "maybe it's aliens", that's not a model. You make a model which can be compared to observations and then the best model (weighted against the number of parameters) wins. LambdaCDM is leagues ahead.

>Yes well there sure are a lot of assumptions, guesses, fudges and fabrications for such an accurate model.
It's a model, a hypothesis, it's allowed to make assumptions. That's the fucking point. There are no fabrications, don't throw accusations around with things you don't understand.

>> No.7559553

>>7559551
>Dem spectra

It's so beautiful.

>> No.7559554

>>7559536
>Go up to any physicist of any kind and propose generating work from zero-point energy

I have actually

Surprisingly many are more interested in the stuff than they would admit publicly.

>> No.7559567

>>7559503
>>7559503
>>7559503

Everyone not trolling this thread, read that post. Actually, it applies to most thoughtful replies on /sci/.

>> No.7559568

>>7559554
Okay sure, I will agree that some may be "interested" in sci-fi stuff coming to life, but who isn't? I'm interested in it too, but the fact is that there is absolutely no conceivable way yet to generate useful work from ZPE, nor do we know if we can even use ZPE without penalty. The really cool, and more feasible, theoretical applications of withdrawing system energy beyond zero are in nano-tech.

>> No.7559597

>>7559515
Anything that attempts to describe the "evolution of" that doesn't arrive at "is", is doing a shitty job of the first.

>> No.7559606

>>7559551

Sorry but until dark energy is actually described, it is a fabrication.

>> No.7559621

>>7559568

Well to actually discover whether something is possible, you have to actually be open-minded enough to look into it without immediately poopooing it as hogwash. Plenty of new science and tech was poopood as hogwash then fags ate that poopoo later. Do you want to be remembered as a poopoo eating fag or the guy who discovered ZPE? WELL DO YOU?!

>> No.7559633

>>7559515

This is why modern physics is a clusterfuck joke.

>> No.7559635

>>7559554

I wonder why the stigma against it? It's as if there were some sort of concerted effort to ridicule earnest research...

>> No.7559644

>>7559635
There's always been plenty of ridicule going on in academia, both what was on point and what was not.

>> No.7559663

>>7559434
>>7559443
>>7559449
>>7559471
>pull out airhorn
BWAAAAA
BWABWABWAAAAAAA
BWAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa

this is what read that with

>> No.7559669

>>7559606
Dark energy is described, most commonly by the cosmological constant. It is not a fabrication.

>> No.7559674

>>7559597
That's just nonsense. Darwinian evolution described the origin of species before anyone knew about genetics.

>> No.7559677

>>7559669

>the maths works
>therefore its real
>QED

Remember when science actually required observation?

>> No.7559680

indian here
please accept my deepest apologies for this shameful nonsense

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Guise I think this is just a wankel engine in disguise

>> No.7559692

>>7559677
Remember when dark energy was proposed due to supernovae surveys?

>> No.7559695

>>7559680
shut up, pajeet. You wouldn't understand this discovery even though you wanted to.

btw, poo in the loo.

>> No.7559699

>>7559677
how would you observe shit like big bang

as science advances it will become more and more abstract because all the easily mappable ground has been mapped already

>> No.7559706

>>7559699
>how would you observe shit like big bang
Remember when Edwin Hubble observed galactic red shifts and calculated Hubble's constant?

Remember when Penzias and Wilson found the CMB?

>> No.7559710

>>7559677
Dark energy was only included in the standard model after it beat 2 major OBSERVATIONAL tests. The flatness of the universe and the acceleration of its expansion. Beyond that it successfully predicted the BAO scale in the modern universe other effects.
It's like you have no idea what you're arguing about, everyone else must be wrong.

>> No.7559734

>>7559710

Both of those are assumptions based on the pretext that there was indeed a big bang. Which in my book is a little shakier now that the theory requires that the vast bulk of the cosmos to be filled with unknown and unobservable "stuff".

>> No.7559832

>>7559710
Sorry for the ignorance, but doesn't GR say that save is curved, not flat?

>> No.7559901

>>7559734
Again, you're testing that model which requires a Big Bang. It doesn't assume there is a Big Bang, that is simply a feature of the model. In fact you can even have a lambdaCDM model with no Big Bang if you ignored observational constraints. It really doesn't matter, all that matters is it is the model with the fewest parameters which explains the data.

>>7559832
Locally it is curved but globally (on very large scales) it is not. We call that the geometry of the universe.

>> No.7559908

>>7559500
>the big bang was produced by ayy lmaos finally developing over-unity devices

>> No.7559918

>>7559049
Interesting. Why doesn't he set up the output to feed back into the input and give it a little push to kick it off?
Should explode in very short order if it's over-unity

>> No.7559922

>>7559500
It is possible the machine acts like Maxwell's demon. It does not really create energy, just transfers it from one part of the universe to another, effectively reversing entropy.

spoiler: I am completely aware OP's machine doesn't work, just saying

>> No.7559929

>>7559922
Perhaps it steals energy from another part of the multiverse!
That would be pretty cool actually.

>> No.7559949

>>7559922

>It's possible the machine does the impossible

No it isn't.

>I know it doesn't, just saying, maybe it does?

You're the worst kind of person to hear about shit like this. You help the spread of misinformation while feeling like you don't.

Stop helping, you make things worse.

>> No.7559951

>>7559929
but then our multiverse would become too energetic, then aliens from the multiverse whose life we are sapping will invade and we'll have to deal with headcrabs and shit

>> No.7559969

>>7559459
it makes perfect sense to me that energy exists as a omnipresent potential underlying apparent existence. i have no doubt that its possible to create a vaccuum, and manipulate it so that it explodes with enough energy to destroy the galaxy.

>> No.7559973

>>7559951
It's okay the power drain could be coming from an uninhabited star

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You're not fooling me, OP.

>> No.7560031

>>>/x/

>> No.7560053

>>7559982
Clever dog.

>> No.7560138

The future

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>>7559049
Here's what will never happen when someone makes these claims

>Free energy machine
>here's my diagrams for free
>oh... no one wants to buy them?
>I will take it to my grave then
>no you may not study my machine only look at it when I'm "demonstrating"

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>>7559443
There is nothing wrong with arguing your point no matter how wrong it seems to someone else. By declaring himself he engenders a moment in which he can learn from. It's a challenge for others to counter him.

You need to set yourself up this way to grow and learn as when you grow above the heads of many men you can only learn from being felled.

It is very important to do this when you have a great depth to your base knowledge as you become blind to where a fault might exist since everything you know is very interrelated. Reasons and logic built upon each other and believed correct for years and years. Built upon from other men who also believed the same thing before you.

It is a necessity to open yourself up and create a possible opportunity for being BTFO by the counter, new, or different.

>> No.7560856

Major news

>> No.7560866

>All the physicists saying "bwaaah free energy is impossible muh second law"

Do these morons not realize that the big bang is literally free energy? Your body, your brain, this fucking planet was made with free energy dipshits.

>> No.7560872

>>7560866
The big bang isn't necessarily free energy and, besides, the big bang event may have been before the second law existed. Thus, claiming that appeals to the second law now are wrong because of the big bang event is absurd.

>> No.7560881

>>7560866
No one knows how the big bang happened, so claiming it to be free energy is infinitely more retarded. The energy that comprises the Universe may be free relative to us, but now that the system is established, it is neither created nor destroyed -- only transformed.

>> No.7560893

>>7559459
you can't prove that. suppose you have infinite rice grains where the first is a normal rice grain, the second is twice the size of the first, the third is 3x the size of the first, and so on. obviously this would take up even more space than infinite regular sized rice grains. but these rice grains added together can fit in anywhere, because their total volume is -1/12

>> No.7560900

>>7559049
DELETE THIS

>> No.7560902

>>7560866
No, common misconception. The big bang is not "not exploded", it is "the universe was very dense in the past and expanded".

>> No.7560968

>>7560902
very =/= infinitely

>> No.7560982

>>7560968
Big bang cosmology doesn't actually care about the hypothetical "singularity" at t=0, because we can't do physics well enough to extrapolate back that far. In fact, it is commonly believed by the mainstream scientific community that a complete theory of quantum gravity would probably eliminate the singularities in black holes and the Big Bang.

We just talk about the universe starting with an infinitely dense point because that's what you get if you extrapolate an expanding universe all the way back. We don't actually know whether it ever was or not, and for the purposes of Big Bang cosmology, we don't really care; all that matters is that it was very very dense and hot and expanded very rapidly.

>> No.7561036

>>7560900

Haha free speech too much for you einsteintard?

>> No.7561122

>>7559446

degenerate

>> No.7561301

this is the future

>> No.7561326

>>7559908
oh shit it all makes sense now

let's assume the cyclic theory of universes is true, that universe goes from big bang to big crunch and starts all over again

big crunches are caused by living beings finally reaching infinite energy, aka solving scarcity. when we reach paradise, we destroy the universe

there's an allegory in the bible about this, when man eats from the tree of knowledge, paradise is destroyed

>> No.7561329

>"Space is the only reality, and has the potential to produce massive amounts of power if put through right technology," said Tewari, who has applied for an international patent for his device in the US.

THE WORDS OF A GENIUS! SCIENTISTS BTFO. PEOPLE WITH BRAINS BTFO.

>> No.7561335

>>7559049

But can it put poos in loos?

>> No.7561339

>>7560866
the big bang is just a theory

>> No.7561355

>>7559140
>gee i wonder why
Cos its bullshit?

>> No.7561380

>/sci/tards shit on /pol/ for being "racist"
>nothing but racist remarks in this thread made by /sci/tards
Glad to know hypocrisy is common even in morons who think they're smart (I'm talking about /sci/ obv).

>> No.7561425

>>7561380
More like
>/sci/ is constantly raided by /pol/ and tmblr to "scientifically" prove their points.
you nigger.

>> No.7561458

>>7561339
nah that's a TV show

>> No.7561525

>>7561335

yea money saved from it will be able to buy loos for poo

>> No.7561543

>>7559373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvmvxAcT_Yc can't help it

What will our beloved oil overlords say about this?

>> No.7561590

>>7560866
>what is Big Bounce

>> No.7561619

Free energy now

>> No.7561633 [DELETED] 

>>7561380
spotted the nigger

>> No.7561702

But we still can't poo in loo.

>> No.7561715

I know this is probably some hack vedic nigger but energy isn't conserved in the universe anyway right?

>> No.7561727

>>7559500
Yeah, entropy would of made it occur already, unless that's what the big bang was.

>> No.7561783

>indian "scientist" producing energy from nothing
>165% efficiency
And best thing
>2015
>someone posting this shit online

>> No.7562422

>>7561783

u mad?

>> No.7562433

DESIGNATED

>> No.7562446

>>7560893
>negative volume
>existing in the universe

top cake nice meme xDDD

>> No.7562738

great invention

>> No.7562765

>>7559049
Now Kyubey will cancel my magical girl contract... right?

>> No.7562775

>>7559448
Well, if the energy sum of the universe was zero then even the creation of new mass would be no violation of the energy conservation law. It only goes against the second law which basically results in more and more energy you can work with turning into "useless" energy.

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>>7562765

>> No.7562908

>>7559973
hopefully that explains ahmed

>> No.7562913

>>7561380
>well that's because we get
...oh wait someone beat me to the meme
>>7561425
top kek, as if this has anything to do with a /pol/ tier agenda

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>>7562930

NEW THREAD

>> No.7563119

to be suppressed

>> No.7564292

Guys, what if you can create energy but towards infinite time, the energy density still converges towards zero? Meaning that you can only create less energy than the universe thins out per second?

>> No.7564303

>>7560872
All physical laws might have been created by the big bang. Nothingness could be full of energy and does not give a fuck about mathematicans.