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What Engineering discipline is objectively superior (in terms of job prospects, pay, working conditions, how many dicks sucked a day etc.)

>> No.7535821
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>> No.7535822

>>7535810

Shut the fuck up, how about.

>> No.7535842

>>7535821
Seems like a pretty lucky guy. Who wouldn't take $82 an hour to live in fucking South Carolina and do rote calculations all day?

>> No.7535854

>>7535821
This is a pretty standard day rate for any contract engineer

>> No.7535906

why does it matter? all engineering disciplines is better than studying phys or pure math

>> No.7535925

>>7535810
Civil tbh. Easiest engineering degree (except maybe industrial), tons of jobs since everything is falling apart, get to leave the office sometimes, and all the construction worker dick you could want. Pay is a bit below average, though it's still a comfortable amount.

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>>7535925
You can even get an aerospace job as a civil.

>> No.7536481

>>7535810
>objectively superior
... to what?
Why can you language-challenged faggots never get even a simple comparison right?

>> No.7536494

I'm a freshman MechE major. I can either graduate in 3.5 years with a basic MechE degree plus a 24-hour transcriptase certificate from the business school (basically all MBA pre-reqs, I think it's stats, Econ, accounting, management information systems, finance, business law, management, marketing) or 4 years with the above plus a concentration in a more specific part of engineering. I want to use my technical background to go into a non-engineering career, either in business, in finance, or in law. If I stay the last semester and get a concentration, which would help the most?

My choices are:
Automotive
Advanced Materials Science
Robotics
Mechatropics (some EE upper division stuff)
Nuclear
Industrial
Environmental/Energy Systems
Management Science/Industrial
Manufacturing and Design
Biomechanics
Acoustics
Dynamic Systems
Thermal/Fluid

Or, I can spend that last semester focusing on a broader education by either taking a CS minor, doing an Honors thesis.

I'm not sure yet.

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MECHANICAL

>> No.7536602

>>7535810
comp sci or nuclear eng. civil/meche is good if you want to be a cad monkey for $40k/year, elece/compe is good if you want to be worse at your inevitable programming job than if you took cs

>>7535821
keep in mind he doesn't get any benefits and has to pay contractor-rate taxes, it's still good but not as much as you think. (not to mention the obvious downsides of being a contractor)

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>civil/meche is good if you want to be a cad monkey for $40k/year,
mad that you didn't pick ME or CE, I see.
>nuclear engineering
lmao
>CS
this isn't /g/

kekerooni discarded

>> No.7536620

>>7536610
meche shitposter doesn't even know how to quote posts smh

>> No.7536627

>>7535925
I have to agree. If you only want to be a bro in it for the money Civil is <span class="math">\mathbb{by far}[/spoiler] the best way to go. You will always have a job because there will always be a need for infrastructure maintenance. CivilE pays better than any STEM except for some of the other engineering disciplines to. And like the anon pointed out Civil is that difficult, it's the best payoff/effort you can get in probably any degree.

Industrial is gay and not really engineering. It also pays the least, contrary to what idiots in industrial actually believe.

>> No.7536628

>>7535925
majority of /sci/ was clowning civil the other day lad.

>muh sewage boy
>muh road crew

>> No.7536634

>>7536602
Dude, you are extremely delusional.

In the first place CS guarantees you'll be a 40kpa code monkey unless you went to a top 10 school, and no one in civil/mech earns that low, cad monkeys will pull about 50-60k starting and then go up to 80k with 4 years of experience.

NukeE is good, but the most difficult of all those.

>> No.7536638

>>7536628
So? Do you care about having a decent life where everyone at a party considers you a rich, smart alpha, or do you want to be a nerd that is respected only on an online Cambodian rice wine forum?

>> No.7536641

do mech or chem and go work for an oil company.

>> No.7536660

>>7536602
>suggesting CompEs aren't better programmers than CS autists

>> No.7536784

>>7536093
True story, I interviewed for an aerospace job once, and one of the managers interviewing me had a degree in civil.

>> No.7536787

>>7536494
Bro, you're a freshman. Spend the next few years figuring out what you like most, and decide then.

>> No.7537651

Do mechanical engineering with a concentration in either nuclear engineering or material science.

>> No.7538117

>>7535810
Electrical Engineering

>relevant in so many fields

>> No.7538131

EE is true master race and any engi worth shit knows this.

>> No.7538235

>>7538131
is that based off of the electrical engineering circle jerks you participated in kindergarten?

>> No.7538321

>>7538235
Jealous?

>> No.7538329

>>7538321
jealous of what? what are you doing?

>> No.7538331

>>7538329
Jealous?

>> No.7538332

>>7538331
jealous of what? what are you doing?

>> No.7538334

>>7538332
Jealous?

>> No.7538336

>>7535810

B I O M E D I C A L

>> No.7538735

EE is the master race
>all the fields you can go into
>all pay pretty high if that's what you are going for
>RD for EE is always really cool with technology always evolving

>> No.7538861

Mathematical engineering mustard race.

>> No.7538878

>>7538861
isn't that basically just applied math?

>> No.7538883

Chemical engineering because that's the one I like. The other ones are pretty cool too, though. Except petroleum engineering, fuck those people.

>> No.7538966

>>7538861
ahahha, pretty sure such a term does not exist but if it did, I guess it would include numerical analysis and simulation related stuff

>> No.7538983

>>7536093
>you can even get an engineering job as an engineer HURR

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>>7536093
>>7535925
>Tfw Civil P.E.
>Tfw I'm getting my MBA next month
>tfw 3 degrees

>> No.7539006

>>7536602
>civil
>cad monkey

1/4 of my time is spend behind a desk....

>> No.7539121

>>7535810
Electromechanical/Mechatronic/Electronic or mechanical with a cross-disciplinary focus. I'm currently in a 5 year program that is certified in both mechanical and electrical. Anybody with a 3.4+ GPA ends up working somewhere like iRobot, Bose, or some interesting robotics firm.

>> No.7539144

Nobody on /sci/ even mentions the true leading discipline of engineering. Financial Engineering. You have to be proficient at maths (I went to Imperial), programming (C++ for 8 years now, most other languages are simple enough), finance/econ (studied econ all through high school, read books religiously, learnt trading through investment clubs).
I'd advise anyone with serious confidence in themselves to go down this route. You will never be the most qualified in the field however, always have to learn new things and keep on top of your game. Not for the faint of heart.

>> No.7539156

>>7536602
>you were born too late to earn 100k starting as a code monkey
>you were born too early to have virtual sex with your waifu

why even bother with computers...

>> No.7539255

Was meche for first two years of school. Did two internships first two summers, got farted on daily at both. Work culture sucked ass, just generally unfulfilling work (for myself and people i worked under). Every engineer at both places was content with getting minimal non-stimulating work done all day and all they really cared about was life outside of work. Seems like the average mech engineer only does it for the pay and is content selling their time for money. These were both at fortune 100 companies too.

Switched to comp sci and am happy thinking for a change.

>> No.7540549

>>7539255
>Every engineer at both places was content with getting minimal non-stimulating work done all day and all they really cared about was life outside of work

Sounds like any field in engineering. In general, people are like that. It'll take working at one of the big names to possibly run into more people who are passionate about what they do.

>Switched to comp sci and am happy thinking for a change.

even comp sci is like that. Most places will be full of people who learn and do the bare minimum to get by. It takes working at a good startup or a place like google to find people who are passionate and want to go the extra mile.

People who are content with more than working the bare minimum so they can afford to have a bbq every other week or have a night out drinking, are hard to find in any field. You have to get a job at a lab, startup, or maybe a government job to find more people who actually care about what they do.

>> No.7540568

>>7536602
>compes
>worse programmers than cs

the fuck outta here dude. Most cs majors learn java and haven't the faintest idea of proper memory management or how a compiler works.

I know because I studied CS and it's taken me years of self-study to become competent at C++ and decent at programming.

>inb4 'hurr burgerU'

I went to a good school actually. Granted I was a B student on my best days, sometimes a C student... Still doesn't change the fact that in school, all you have to do is program in Java, and they don't even care about your code being efficient as long as it passes the tests their auto-graders use, you never actually learn how to write efficient code. By contrast EEs and compes HAVE (or at least in my school they had to) to learn C/C++ and HAVE to learn how a computer really works.

CS is probably better if you want to go into web development and become a JavaScript dev, though.

>> No.7540602

can i still get into engineering program without an engineering major?
Chem E with only a Chem major?
I just want to know for back up purposes, engineering isnt my preferred end goal

>> No.7540636

>>7540602
>can i still get into engineering program without an engineering major?
>Chem major?
If you mean undergrad you can usually register for any undergraduate degree once you already have a bachelors regardless of the minimum requirements, although if it's selection based you have to compete with the incoming high-schoolers.

If you mean a postgrad programme:

At my university you can get into our grad-school if you have good grades, but the degree awarded is a MSc in Chemical Engineering while you can only get a MEng if you already have a BEng.

The difference is to distinguish between a professional engineering degree and an applied science MSc degree (by law you need a BEng to register as a professional engineer in this country), the latter is good for getting a PhD and then a career in R&D, but it's virtually the same as a normal pure science PhD career and salary wise, only with emphasis on engineering fields like nanomaterials engineering, biochemical etc.

It's the same exams and everything except that MSc candidates don't have to answer the PDE and other math heavy questions meant for engineers.

Basically your undergrad determines if you can work as an engineering. Engineering postgrad is just for specialization, research and engineers who are vying for an academic career (which isn't especially competitive); you can't get recognition for an engineer by doing an engineering postgrad, it basically recognizes you as a normal scientist/tech with some specialization in an applied research field. The most BSc people here are chemists and physicists who already working in industry in mainly QA labs and such who's companies send them here for training.

IN SHORT:
If I had a BSc I would just do postgrad from the chem/physics department, if you do well shoot for an academic career, otherwise you could probably get a decent job at a large industry R&D lab (as a real career scientist eventually running a research department, not the normal QA tech shit).

>> No.7540641

>>7539144
It's a meme for idiots who think finance is still a lot of money. It's filled with failed engineers earning 60% of what they could've in an engineering management position.

>> No.7540660

>>7540602
You can but you are not allowed to be a practising engineer. The requirement is that you complete a 4 year undergrad course. This is protected by international agreements such as the Washington Accord.

>> No.7540794

>>7539121
M8 5 years sounds like a waste when you could just get a BS in either mech or electrical and get a concentration in mechatronics, graduate in 3.5 years, and get a masters in a year.

>> No.7541985

>>7538983
made me laugh

>> No.7543097

Everyday a scientist vs engineer thread

We can all agree they're both pretty fuckin rad though right

It's just a matter of who gets paid more

>> No.7543104

>>7536628
Welcome to /sci/, where your occupation will be obsolete within 5 years, and your degree is worthless unless you attended an Ivy League.

>> No.7543990

>>7535810
Aerospace engineer. You get sweet NASA and SpaceX pussy.

>> No.7545220

Computer Engineering

Fundamental knowledge of how everything from the ground up works.
A lot more programming knowledge than CS plebs AND you can build cool shit too cause you know how current works.

>> No.7545256

CE from EE with minor in CS.

Get security certifications and work as a defense contractor in the US.
Make 150-500 a year depending on your ability. Sometimes play with very expensive, very dangerous toys. Be able to say "that's classified" when someone asks about your work, but not as a cover for ignorance.

Bonus: If you're ballsy enough and don't mind being less than ethical, retire early by committing espionage.