How does the schedule of a scientist or a top student in a top university look like? How much sleep do they get? How much do they study? How much time to they spend on entertainment if at all? How much time do they dedicate to their other hobbies if they have some?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 14 07:24:57 2015 No.7529229 [Reply] [Original]

How does the schedule of a scientist or a top student in a top university look like?

How much sleep do they get? How much do they study? How much time to they spend on entertainment if at all? How much time do they dedicate to their other hobbies if they have some?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:01:12 2015 No.7529258 File: 3 KB, 125x91, 1441589955713s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7529229 >asking for top students in a top universities Where do you think you are right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:01:22 2015 No.7529259 >>7529256 10/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:01:46 2015 No.7529261 >>7529256 To answer your questions: i have almost no entertainment besides going to the gym every second day and fucking my gf. Thats my life and it fulfills me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:04:01 2015 No.7529264 Sleep, toilet, exercise, shower (sometimes), eat. Rest of time spent in: class, studying (with breaks), writing, reading. Hobby is studying

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:04:14 2015 No.7529265 >>7529258 I thought everyone here is top of the class in math at a top 10 university. I am just interested to know how I should efficiently structure my day and how much entertainment I can allow myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:04:54 2015 No.7529268 >>7529258 Where do you think you are right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:05:47 2015 No.7529269 >>7529264 How long, how intensivly do you study and how often do you take breaks and what do you do during those breaks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:07:49 2015 No.7529273 >>7529229 They don't sleep. They masturbate 13 times a day just to break even. And they save a lot of time by not going to bathroom or eating. The rest of the time, they shitpost on /sci/ as opposed to doing actual work.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:11:37 2015 No.7529281 >>7529265 your "entertainment" is your studies if your studies aren't fun, you should reconsider what you're studying before you burn out

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:15:01 2015 No.7529284 >>7529281 I can't imagine that even someone with a passion for his subject has fun all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:22:57 2015 No.7529292 >>7529284 Math/science is mentally exhausting, and there is a lot of not-work that one needs to do to able to do what they want, but ask any professional and they will tell you they love their work.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:25:10 2015 No.7529295
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I'm an ME at Stanford which is apparently ranked #2 in the world by program. I have a scholarship.

I sleep for eight hours each night. I have never stayed up overnight to "study" as the positives of doing so do not outweigh the negatives.

I study by a modified Pomodoro Technique for at least a few hours each day.

If by "entertainment" you mean watching films and other such media, 0%. I am actually good looking thanks to my parents, so sex tends to fall onto my lap without much effort and sometimes I take it if I'm not busy, so I suppose that could be considered the entertainment. What I study is my entertainment.

In my spare time, I toy with ideas that I conjure up from what I'm learning and with a powerful computer, I am able to test things. I exercise just enough to keep a healthy cardio-vascular system. I always had strange hobbies as a child and had a mystical interest of figuring how something worked by taking it apart and researching what I found. I played the guitar a lot from say the 6th - 12th grade so I sometimes play that just to "reset" myself if I could say as a form of therapy. I try to draw. I read what interests me and I think that it's important to read in your spare time. I make sure that I talk to nice, genuine people, no matter field they're in as long as they are exceptional. I have a large network of friends with varied interests because of this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:31:14 2015 No.7529298 >>7529295 Roughly how many hours of studying per week?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 08:42:21 2015 No.7529301 >>7529295 >I study by a modified Pomodoro Technique for at least a few hours each day. Elaborate. This is the important part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:00:16 2015 No.7529319 >>7529281 >what are means to an end You're retarded

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:09:28 2015 No.7529324
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>>7529301
Well, I will study in absolute silence for 45 minutes, take a 15 minute break and repeat this at least four times each day.

Lets say I have a lecture at 10AM and it is currently 8AM. I will quickly review the material from the last lecture as well as read through the material for the following lecture and write my notes. This allows me to focus on the professor while I am in class and not make sure my notes are perfect as I already wrote them before the lecture. I will add or revise if something is brought up that I didn't read correctly, sure, but during the lecture the professor has my full attention and I'm usually not even holding my pencil. I have my notebook open to the notes and that is all.

After the lecture, I will complete the assignment and review every single thing that is relevant and write my perfect note copy after reviewing.. I may prepare for the next lecture during this time as well.

So, I study the material five times per single lecture. I review the material before. I write the notes before. I listen to the professor during the lecture. I review the lecture after. I write my perfect note copy after. I always give my full attention in each instance. I have never earned lower than a 3.8 GPA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:13:05 2015 No.7529327 >>7529324 Thanks, anon. I'll try this out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:16:59 2015 No.7529330 >>7529324 sounds pretty hardcore, salutes to you also is 4chan not an entertainment?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:17:01 2015 No.7529331 >>7529324 Do you consider that your success is due to your IQ or work ethic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:23:04 2015 No.7529339 >>7529331 probably parents who created an easy to study environment for him

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:27:28 2015 No.7529342

>>7529324
>when your wallpaper gets posted on /sci
This seems like good advice, and you seem like a smart anon. I usually like to take my time showering and then grabbing breakfast before my 10 am lecture, even though I wake up around 7-7:30. Maybe as the class gets harder I'll start to pick up on your techniques. Although it is only chem 2, and I think I'd only need to do this sort of thing for classes I'm more worried about like physics 3. You sound very organized, and one of my main problems in school is remaining organized throughout the entire year. I usually get sidetracked by sports or parties or league, and the hardest part of fixing it is keeping the discipline constant and controlling if not fully dropping these habits. I fear I may be spreading myself too thin and surrounding myself with the wrong people, but the academic types are always so autistic. Is there really no middle ground if you want to pursue a scientific career? It sounds more like a lifestyle than a career path, and there isn't any "just getting by" allowed.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:31:15 2015 No.7529347
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>>7529331
I have been tested by several psychologists to have an IQ ranging from 140-145. I recognize that I would not be as eccentric, lets say, if I had an average IQ.

I don't think that I am smart or hardworking but that's just the silent rule that you need to follow in order to do anything great. I am constantly critiquing myself and as a result am extremely psychosomatic and my eccentricities sometimes make me feel insecure.

I can't directly tell you, but you can deduce for yourself my answer. I do feel that you need think in a certain way that just isn't teachable. You either have a knack to critically break down problems or you don't.

>>7529339
I don't see how you could deduce this. I wear an ear-muff that will allow me to study in silence. Sounds during study are absolutely counter-productive to me.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:34:03 2015 No.7529349
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>>7529295
>In my spare time (...)
Seriously, why are you on 4chan? Do you only come to /sci/?
> make sure that I talk to nice, genuine people, no matter field they're in as long as they are exceptional
thank you ;)
>>7529324
I don't really get the benefit of writing down notes 5 times. What I usually do is skim the material before class, only make notes of key concepts and examples during the lecture, and then make the exercises immediately after the lecture until I fully understand them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:40:14 2015 No.7529355 >>7529347 Just out of curiosity, do you consider yourself creative or with an artistic inclination?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:44:48 2015 No.7529358 I study all day, vidya and reading at night then 6-7 hours of sleep

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 09:54:36 2015 No.7529362
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>>7529355
I very much appreciate the arts and some of my greatest friends are more-so of the creative type than what I am. I always have tried to be so, but I don't think that I'm wired in such a way that you would think of. My way of thinking is too optimization-oriented, lets say. I work by design more than expression.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 10:09:10 2015 No.7529374 >>7529342 sounds like you just don't have it tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 10:09:58 2015 No.7529375 I literally wake up 5:30 to study.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 10:26:42 2015 No.7529395 >>7529375 What time are you asleep by? I recommend sleepyti.me

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 10:30:41 2015 No.7529397 >>7529395 Around 2200

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 10:35:13 2015 No.7529401 I think I count as a research scientist. Anyways, I would guess that I probably sleep 6-8 hours, work around 10 hours, 1 hour spent getting between places, 1 hour for meals, and the remaining hours for "entertainment."

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 10:43:11 2015 No.7529409 >>7529229 From QUORA, "How do top students study?" http://www.quora.com/How-do-top-students-study

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 11:35:19 2015 No.7529477 I'm a PhD student in chemistry and I spend about 80% of the time I'm not in class, on the train, eating, or sleeping playing Civ V or fapping

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 12:02:43 2015 No.7529516 How do you know what the next lecture is on? My profs are so random. What do you do if the math

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 12:07:49 2015 No.7529521 >>7529347 How do you know what the next lecture is on? My profs are so random and doesn't follow the text book. I also get profs that can't speak English, they are top in their field but can't teach. Mostly math prof in like differential geometry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 12:13:32 2015 No.7529526 >>7529477 shitty school?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 12:25:07 2015 No.7529533 >>7529526 Nah, first semester, so I don't have much to do. Well, unless you mean shitty school my /sci/ circlejerk standards where everything that isn't MIT is shitty. I'm sure I will have to actually work soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 15:10:08 2015 No.7529781 >>7529526 Blah

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 19:34:39 2015 No.7530249 >>7529521 >wat is a syllabus/online notes step it up anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 19:37:53 2015 No.7530257 >>7529295 > I make sure that I talk to nice, genuine people, no matter field they're in as long as they are exceptional so is that where 4chan comes in? :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:20:18 2015 No.7530308 >>7529521 He goes to stanford, so there's your problem

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:22:45 2015 No.7530311

>>7529347
How many notebooks do you have? I try to do this, but I also don't like having more than one book per class. It seems like your system would require at least two notebooks for each class, i.e one to do pre-notes and lecture notes, and then one for "perfect" notes. Plus extra notebook to do homework if it isn't online.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 20:38:57 2015 No.7530322

>>7529324
>>7529347
>>7530311
Stanford Anon: I have several questions for you as an applicant to stanford this year. I'm interested in math/physics and I want to ask about the environment and classes at stanford vs. the other schools I'm considering (mit harvard uchicago columbia caltech and berkeley)

>b8

No, fuck off, I've been 18 for several months

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 21:01:02 2015 No.7530339

>>7529229
I'm an engineering and math double major with an A average. My schedule looked like this last year:

>0600
wake up
>0645
be showered, shaved, dressed, ready for the day
>0700
breakfast, morning reading
>0745
leave the dining commons
>0800 to 1200
Somewhere in this time, there will be at least one class depending on the day. any time not in class during this block is spent studying
>1200
lunch at a dining hall with a nice view and breeze
>1230
Mid day free time. Usually feeling beat from studying/reading for five hours, I go do something that is fun. Sometimes a hike (my campus is forested) or I will play a video game for a period of time.
>1400
done fucking around by now, now I am either in a class or studying.
>1700
Evening labs start now. Depending on the day of the week, I am either studying, in a lab, or in a discussion from now until the next time block
>2200
finished doing intensive things for the day. head back to dorm or meet up with friends. If its friday I'll usually go play a game or watch a movie with friends.

Average day has around ten hours of academic work to get done. Weekends I sleep in because breakfast isn't served until 1000.
I'm on the quarter system. I average 21 units per quarter. This quarter I will be taking 22 or 24, depending on weather or not I get hired for math tutoring.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:38:56 2015 No.7530461

>>7529229
Dads former schedule. Dropped us at school. 7:30. Went to work. Came home sat down at his desk and worked. Ate dinner sat down and worked till 1-2am. Rinse and repeat. Also flew to France, Japan, Denmark, Germany or other state at least twice a month. I do not know if this is typical. He was a department head, had a lab, reviewed grants for NIH and was in demand in biotech circles for consultancy and speaking.
Sum of lifes work.
250k salary.
2.5 mil retirement.
Many published papers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 22:59:50 2015 No.7530484 >>7529229 I'm an undergrad, math >wake up early, time varies >do things (order doesn't seem to matter) >sleep You'd think it is chaotic, but I'm tidy and like figuring things out. Probably why i don't keep a schedule, daily challenge

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 23:01:58 2015 No.7530487 >>7530484 I know this is a "scientist" thread OP, but this shit isn't going anywhere, and it's barely relevant

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 23:21:38 2015 No.7530518 >>7530308 My school is ranked top 25 in the world. What's your point? Great researchers doesn't mean great teachers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 23:33:37 2015 No.7530536 >>7530487 OP asked about how people in academic environments organize their schedules. I think that post is pretty relevant.

Anonymous Mon Sep 14 23:52:42 2015 No.7530568

>>>7530249
The profs don't follow it. I go to University of Toronto, more than half of my math profs are Russians that barely speaks English. They are literally leaders within their field but can't teach. I do math and physics degree, and physics profs are 90% decent. I'm just trying to ask what happens when the plan fails.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 14 23:58:38 2015 No.7530576 How much can you study before it becomes pointless? If I take regular short breaks could I effectivly keep studying the whole day?

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:02:29 2015 No.7530585

>>7530576
>he doesn't carry around his little book of autism 24/7
>he doesn't micro study throughout the day.

seriously. condense your notes once a week, and carry that shit around. in line? read a page, taking a poop? thats a couple pages.

shit adds up, and it sticks better imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:04:00 2015 No.7530588 >>7530585 Is that really effective if you study something that is mostly about learning by doing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:05:59 2015 No.7530594 >>7530588 like what? rebuilding an engine or something? its your book nigga, put in some challenge problems or something.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:06:43 2015 No.7530597

>>7529324

Ah, paying attention to the professor, my nigga.

If the professor put notes online, I would always print them out. At the very least I could just add supplemental information instead of wasting time with stupid shit that could done by simply printing out the paper. Full attention, understand what's going on, and you don't have to couple writing with listening which is mentally fatiguing after 20 minutes. Best case scenario you sit back and just listen, similar to a TV documentary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:07:24 2015 No.7530600 >>7530594 Well computer science for example. Just reading the slides without doing some practice problems is not effective for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:09:29 2015 No.7530603 >>7530600 >computer science get a fucking tablet you philistine.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:34:10 2015 No.7530633

I'm not in a top university but I'm in a decent university for my master's in math and I usually get fucked out of sleep by insomnia, drink multiple times a week, play video games, shitpost, talk in irc, play guitar, jerk off, and do all my work last minute and never study really. Never got below a 4.0. Also I hate myself. Mfw I get asked how much I studied for a 65% avg test when I got a 100% without studying and having done acid 2 days before.

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:37:08 2015 No.7530639

>>7529229
Better schools are better for networking and prestige. a degree from one signals to employers that you're a better student. And your professors are probably the people writing the textbooks/making the discoveries.

When it comes to difficulty/quality of education, however, most non-community college schools tend to be around the same level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:38:15 2015 No.7530640 >>7529265 I'm taking Differential Equations at a Community College. I did get a 95% on the first test, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:39:11 2015 No.7530641 >>7530633 I am never get if posts like this are serious or just trolls. I can't imagine anyone going through college with good grades without studying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:43:43 2015 No.7530648 >>7529295 >is smart as fuck >studies MECH engineering of all engineerings Retard detected

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:45:46 2015 No.7530651

>>7530641
I'm 100% serious. I guess I got really lucky with being born so smart to a carpenter and a stay at home mom. I don't really deserve it since I'm a lazy worthless mentally I'll fuck but I'll take it if I can have it. It's weird as shit to make breakthroughs in research on 3 hours of sleep not having worked at all and forcing myself to get up at 1pm for a meeting. I could probably do way better shit if I tried but I'm a fucking loser. "Smart but lazy xd" yes but at least I prove it with paid research and a 4.0

Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:47:11 2015 No.7530653

>>7530639
>When it comes to difficulty/quality of education, however, most non-community college schools tend to be around the same level.

What's wrong with community college? Most CC professors have Master degrees and some even have PhDs. The only reason why it's supposedly easier is because CC only teach entry level stuff. Universities also have bad to good professors just like CCs do. The level of difficulty really lies on the professor. Furthermore, University professors who do the research and create the books are the ones who aren't even in the classroom and the Master degree slaves are the ones who are teaching the class the majority of the time anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 00:49:02 2015 No.7530655 >>7530653 >Most CC professors have Master degrees Those are lecturers or adjuncts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 04:00:45 2015 No.7530810 >>7529281 this tbh And if your interests aren't STEM you shouldn't even be in school

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 04:20:05 2015 No.7530831 >>7530810 if your interests aren't animu and animu accessories, you shouldn't be on 4chan tbh

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 04:22:16 2015 No.7530834 >>7529261 >gf sounds like enough entertainment to be tbh

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 04:31:00 2015 No.7530841 >>7529229 >How much sleep do they get? How much do they study? How much time to they spend on entertainment if at all? How much time do they dedicate to their other hobbies if they have some? none you will never be a top student or scientist.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:19:58 2015 No.7531400 Just got my Calculus III test today and the class average was an A. Does this mean that the teacher is an easy A? ratemyprofessor has him at a 3.6 in easyness and the test is just homework problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:22:31 2015 No.7531411 >>7529229 Wake up Go to class Pretend to study Actually study at home Do nothing Sleep Repeat

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:40:05 2015 No.7531442 >>7531400 >Does this mean that the teacher is an easy A? Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 13:49:48 2015 No.7531456 Math undergrad here. Perfect GPA, paper waiting to be published, about to graduate. I fuck around a lot of the time; maybe I'll spend 2-3 hours a day studying/doing homework/grading. I spend most of my time drinking and playing/watching football.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 14:16:11 2015 No.7531489 >>7531411 this,so much this

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 17:10:27 2015 No.7531631 >>7529281 >>7530810 Why can't you have both, spergs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 15 17:20:19 2015 No.7531648 >>7529295 Holy shit. How much of a fucking normie can you be? gtfo you disgust me

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