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Hello /sci/ since this is this the most interesting board, I wanted to discuss with you the topic of generosity, what are your thoughts about it and what it means to you?

>> No.7510844

You must be new here said the smiling purple-garbed candy man

>> No.7510846

>>7510844
why do you say that?

>> No.7510853

I see this as an interesting topic, and what to see what do people think about it.

>> No.7510855

>>7510846
>relevant subject text
>generic google image
>speaking kindly of a board
>saying you want to discuss x instead of just discussing x
>not discussing x at all but posting a few simple questions about x in hopes that someone else will get the ball rolling

>> No.7510860

>>7510855
okay a good question to get the ball rolling,
is there a science to generosity?

>> No.7510861
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>>7510843
We had this topic earlier as "Is there any such ting as true altruism".
Plenty of materialists (see: Robert Heinlein) would claim that every act of kindness grants _some_ benefit to the giver.
Even if you give a homeless man a sandwich, with no possibility of reward, you're STILL getting a sense of personal satisfaction if nothing else.
Therefore, they conclude, there's no "true" altruism, since you always get _something_ out of the deal.

Personally, that sounds like the "no true Scotsman" fallacy to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Basically, Heinlein (and others) have created a definition of altruism so lofty and absolute that nothing matching the definition could exist.
He also did the same thing with legal rights, insisting that since the government can't prevent people from violating each other's rights 100% of the time, therefore there's no such thing as a "right".

He was also a libertarian and a great author.
I really enjoy his novels, if not his political views.

>> No.7510869

>>7510861
beautiful paragraph, now tell me, what do you think about generosity? is it worth it to be generous?

>> No.7510885

>ask for a discussion about people's thoughts about generosity and hospitality
>get a wiki page about "no true scotsman"

>> No.7510886

No such thing as a free lynch.

>> No.7510898
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A rich man opens the paper and sees the world is full of misery and he says I have money, I can help and gives away all his money. But people still suffer.
Another day, now poor, he sees another article in the paper that say organ donations save lives so he donates a kidney. He still knows people are suffering so he goes back and says he wants to donate all of his organs, everything that he is and has. The doctor says he can't, it's suicide and sends the man home. So the man gets in the tub and slits his own throat: the words organ donor are written on the wall.
His gravestone reads: "The man who gave everything."

The point, he says, is only a fool thinks he can solve the world's problems.

But you still have to try though, right?

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>>7510898
>but you still have to try

>> No.7510905

>>7510900
There was a fella once. Running for a train. And he's carrying a pair of gloves, this man. He drops a glove on the platform, but he doesn't notice. And then later on, inside the train, he's sitting by the window and he realises that he's just got this one glove left. But the train's already started pulling out of the station. So what does he do? He opens the window, and he drops the other glove onto the platform. That way, whoever finds the first glove, can just have the pair.

>> No.7510916

>>7510898
dont you think that generosity and hospitality can cure imperfection?

>> No.7510920

>>7510916
that depends, what do you consider imperfection?

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>>7510905
that's a real nice story, mhm

>> No.7510924

>>7510920
answering a question with a question,
imperfection can be anything from physical, emotional, etc

>> No.7510961

>>7510924
how can generosity and hospitality cure that? give an example.

>> No.7510972

>>7510869
>what do you think about generosity?
As I already said, my first thought ion the subject (in the context of /sci/) is that materialists will deny it's existence, and I disagree with them.

>>7510869
>is it worth it to be generous?
That's an entirely different question, and a kind of silly one at that.
If I'm generous because I'm expecting a tangible payoff, then I'm not being particularly generous, am I?

I think you can't take it with you, and it's better to have stuff WITH other people than alone.
So if you're looking for advice, yeah, be generous.

>> No.7510997

>>7510961
I dont know, what you think? or is my question absurd and unclear?