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7482923 No.7482923[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Why is the board so quick to defend pseudoscience like Racialism?

>> No.7482924

because any discussion of actual math/science like topology and number theory/coding theory is quickly dismissed and 404ed, since everyone is too intimidated by them and busy replying to "are black people considered human" type threads made by community college freshmans straight from nowheresville USA

>> No.7482927
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>>7482923
>The belief in the existence and significance of racial categories.

>> No.7482933 [DELETED] 

>>7482924
black people aren't human you idiot

>> No.7482934

>>7482927
actually the desire that all humans should be equal is anything BUT natural. It's a politically correct desire.
That's what happens when you let schools educate your kids.

>> No.7482939

>>7482927
The worst cherrypicked plausible data still indicates a large overlap in IQ ranges of blacks and whites, which means Watson's implied statement that blacks are always stupider than whites is horseshit.

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>>7482934
Actually, recent studies on lab rats suggest that feeling emphatic is in our DNA.

So, fuck you sociopath.

>> No.7482949

>>7482947
>feeling empathic
>same as feeling the need for someone different to be the same as you
kek
you have no clue about what empaty is, do you

>> No.7482956

>>7482949
You obviously do not feel emphatic if you want people to be treated like shit.

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>>7482939
>are always

*projecting*

Just because he says something you don't like doesn't make him into the KKK//SS.

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>>7482957

>> No.7482959

>>7482957
Watson clearly implied that blacks are strictly stupider than whites, or something very much like it, where the best cherrypicking you can do with plausible data indicates that there's still lots of overlap on the IQ range. What Watson said is just wrong.

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>>7482959
>Groups are homogeneous

He was clearly implying the average.

>> No.7482962

>>7482956
The correct choice is the best choice, for if it were the wrong choice you would be erring.

>> No.7482963

>>7482957
Kek, takes me back to high school; was in the IB program in a predominately black high school. No one in IB was black, so I didn't have many classes with them, but I'd always hear about the fights after the fact.

>> No.7482964

>>7482961
No, he's not. Otherwise he wouldn't be invoking that kind of anecdotal data.

>> No.7482965

>>7482964
Usually you'll end up dealing with the approximate average and not the outliers.

>> No.7482966

>>7482962
>The correct choice is the best choice
but it isn't the correct choice

>> No.7482967

>>7482965
Which is precisely why Watson's invocation of that kind of anecdotal data makes no sense unless Watson (wrongly) believes that there's very little overlap in IQ ranges.

>> No.7482969
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>>7482967
>IQ

Pattern matching is not the be all end all of human measure.

>> No.7482973

>>7482969
That's wholly consistent with my line of argument. I'm with you. Try to keep up in the conversation.

>> No.7482976

>>7482969
>>7482967
>>7482965
>>7482964
>>7482961
>>7482959
>>7482957
>>7482956
>>7482949
>>7482947
>>7482934
>>7482927
>implying IQ means jackshit
>implying the arbitrary number you get isn't influenced by socioeconomic status

>> No.7482978

My version of a"scientific " explanation of the porches difference in intelligence would be that first if all, we are using the white idea if intelligence to judge theirs. This is flawed because if an obvious bias. However, we ask came ultimately from Africa. It seems to me that there could be something to be said about the fact that Europeans had to adapt to a new environment whereas modern day Africans did not. Having that background could potentially add a genetic tendency to a certain type if intelligence. But again, the bias inherent in judging them by our standards.

>> No.7482979

>>7482973
Oh wait, scratch that. I didn't see you pic. You're scum.

>> No.7482981

>>7482978
*perceived

Sorry, writing this on my phone

>> No.7482985

>>7482981
I guess my point is that whatever intelligence wait people have over out black brethren is due only to the spread of our species and not because of anything we really "did".

>> No.7482986

>>7482976
Of course, IQ is influences by socioeconomic status, but so is intelligence. Someone who was raised eating nutritious meals and spending more time learning than they did worrying over their family's finances is going to be more intelligent as an adult.

However, adoption studies show that the black/white IQ disparity can't be completely explained by environment.

>> No.7482987

>>7482976
DAMAGE CONTROL MODE = ON

>> No.7482988

Because it's a shit posting thread like IQ, Jacob Barnett and the "every obscure part of the body has to have evolutionary purpose like anal hair".

>> No.7482990

>>7482985
Exactly. We're all suited to the environments our ancestors come from. The problems seen here >>7482969 come from forcing a group of people to live much differently than what their genetics are suited for. Likewise, if you asked white people to go to Africa and live as tribesmen, they'd be at a huge disadvantage, and would struggle with hunting and would be more likely to develop skin cancer.

>> No.7482992

>>7482990
There's absolutely no evidence to support any of this bullshit. Human genetic diversity is incredibly small. Any two humans on Earth have less DNA differences than two chimps in the same tribe.

>> No.7482993

>>7482988
Evolutionarily speaking, why does Jacob Barnett have such a high IQ? Is it because he's white?

>> No.7482996

>>7482992
>implying you need a large disparity in genes to have a large disparity in physiology
I'm sure that the genetic difference between black and white skin is very small, but clearly the physiological difference is great. When you're near the equator, black skin is great, since UV light can't penetrate it as well, reducing the chance of skin cancer. However, near the poles, white skin is generally better, to make sure you get enough vitamin D.

>> No.7483001

>>7482923
>Why is the board so quick to defend pseudoscience like Racialism?

We get a lot of people from /pol/ who want to impress their retard friends with citations, so they come here and ask us to research shit for them.

>> No.7483006

>>7482996
The enzyme that regulates melanin production in melanocytes is coded for by a single gene. If it took hundreds of thousands of years for selective pressures to gradually switch a single gene, then how can you possibly argue that the physiology of their brains must be drastically different? Do you have any idea how sophisticated brain function is?

Differences in achievement between races are caused by social factors, not biological inferiority. Just use occam's razor and look at how much poverty disproportionately affects black people.

>> No.7483021

>>7482939
>always
He doesn't say that though

>> No.7483024

>>7483006
>If it took hundreds of thousands of years for selective pressures to gradually switch a single gene
Fuck me you're retarded
Melanin isn't regulated by a single gene as well as the fact that blacks have a significantly different facial structure than whites and whites have intermingled with neanderthalers

>> No.7483025

>>7483006
No one is arguing for inferiority. Brains can be different without on being better than the other. It's asinine to say that Europeans and Africans are the same. It's racist to say that one is better.

>> No.7483031

>>7483024
>Melanin isn't regulated by a single gene

The enzyme that determines how much gets produced is.

>as the fact that blacks have a significantly different facial structure than whites and whites have intermingled with neanderthalers

Slightly different bone structure and neanderthal DNA has nothing to do with cognitive function.

>>7483025
>Brains can be different without on being better than the other.

This is the assertion I always hear right before someone claims that blacks are biologically predisposed to suck at academics/commit crimes. Maybe I'm generalizing too much.

>> No.7483034

>>7482993

Nope, it's just a statistical eventuality. Theoritically all human populations can easily yeild a Jacob Barnett given enough time and people.

The only difference is the rate at which they produce them. Some populations have higher rates while others have lower rates. But they all share in the trait in being able to produce them.

Now evolutionary speaking there are factors that come into play in influencing said rates like the founder's effect or nutrition. Both have been used to explain current differences in average IQ.

>> No.7483047

>>7483031
I fully recognize the social factors at hand in the lower performance of African Americans. So, no, I'm not asserting any sort of biological predisposition. I'm not even really taking about African Americans, just Africans. Also I said before it's unfair and biased to judge another culture by the standards of ours.

>> No.7483051

>>7483047
>Also I said before it's unfair and biased to judge another culture by the standards of ours.

Sounds good to me. I'm geared to react in a certain way since these kinds of conversations tend to follow a similar pattern.

>> No.7483463

>>7482927
Here's another James Watson classic.

"Whenever you interview fat people, you feel bad, because you know you're not going to hire them."

>> No.7483749
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>>7482979
>You're scum

Just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean you can pretend they don't exist. Life is never black and white where one side is evil and completely to blame and the other is completely innocent and free from blemish.

>> No.7483816

>>7483463
>Hiring people with absolutely no self control to the point they can't stop harming themselves.
>Hiring mass murders that kill by hogging up the food supply

Who the fuck would?

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>>7482978
>we are using the white idea if intelligence to judge theirs

2+2=4 IS NOT RACIST!

>certain type if intelligence

"Multiple intelligences" is just bullshit liberal arts majors came up with to pretend to be intelligent even though they can figure out what 8% tax on their purchase is. If you can't figure out basic tasks, you are not intelligent.

>> No.7483857

>>7482978
The problem with people like you is self-imposed short-sightedness. Why self-imposed you ask? Because you're afraid to do anything else. There is more to the world than blacks and whites in Africa and North America. Blacks don't succeed anywhere. Ever. Meanwhile, people of all races are doing better than blacks ever did in far harsher conditions. It's time to man up and accept the truth so we can get over this horseshit and have some fucking topology threads again.

>> No.7483882

>>7483857
When you say "succeed", what is succession?

>> No.7483889

>>7483882
I assume you mean "what is success?" And the answer to that would be anything that people would normally call success. Wealth, status, scientific discoveries, innovation, progress, achievement in general. There is not a single community of blacks anywhere on the planet that have achieved greater "successes" than races around them, even when they are the majority.

>> No.7483891

>>7482923
Every sane person knows that the only reason black people do so poorly in life, and have contributed so little to humanity, is that white people are awful.

>> No.7483902

>>7483891
prepare for /pol/ to get triggered

>> No.7483908

>>7482927
lol that guy was so far behind modern research that the university was probably just looking for an excuse to get rid of him.

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>>7483857
If they can't succeed then why were they slaves? Slave owners could've had Asian slaves and they might of get shit done faster.

>> No.7483921

>>7483889

>There is not a single community of blacks anywhere on the planet that have achieved greater "successes" than races around them, even when they are the majority.

African Americans achieved greater success than native americans despite not having home field advantage, despite being isolated from their original population and despite being seen as sub-humans.

now fuck off

>> No.7483931

>>7483889
Have you skipped the history classes?
Or
Do american people just study american "history"?

If that's it, you can't understand and support what you are talking about.

>> No.7483936

>>7483921
Not only that, but let's keep in mind they pretty much did well despite challenges given to them.


That's not to say Native Americans are "Sub-human" or inferior. Native Americans had to face harsh trials and error as well, when the British came over.

>> No.7483942

>>7483921
That's because the blacks were actually able to survive and breed, giving them greater chances for "success" (if that's what you want to call African Americans). This is not because they have any advantageous traits, it's because most of the native Americans died off from diseases that other countries brought over. So black population grew exponentially larger than the native Americans, especially with whiteys like Jefferson raping black women for more free workers.

>> No.7483946

>>7483931
/pol/fags were those kids who would skip school cause american education is teaching lies and would sit in the very back of the class and draw swasticas

>> No.7483948

>>7483889
>Wealth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_Empire

Breeded some of the most wealthy people in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musa_I_of_Mali

>Musa's journey was documented by several eyewitnesses along his route, who were in awe of his wealth and extensive procession, and records exist in a variety of sources, including journals, oral accounts, and histories. Musa is known to have visited the Mamluk sultan of Egypt, Al-Nasir Muhammad, in July of 1324.[10]

>status
In their own kingdoms seem to have achieved great status.

>scientific discoveries

West Africans were very spiritual people, they did not pursue technology as other races had.

>progress

Progress by what definition? Complex societies are progress enough.

>> No.7483953

>>7483942
>That's because the blacks were actually able to survive and breed, giving them greater chances for "success" (if that's what you want to call African Americans). This is not because they have any advantageous traits, it's because most of the native Americans died off from diseases that other countries brought over. So black population grew exponentially larger than the native Americans, especially with whiteys like Jefferson raping black women for more free workers.


Keep in mind, Europeans also attempted to do the same to Sub-Saharan Africa, however to no prevail until the invention of the Maxim Machine Gun.

>> No.7483956

>>7483921
>find another low IQ race that blacks outnumber 8 to 1
>somehow this proves blacks are as smart as whites and asians

>> No.7483959

>>7483948
Wealth implies things that people want. I guarantee you Ghana as a nation was not even close to being on par with whites or asians in terms of production. If you really wanted to compare wealth, you would have to compare the GDP per capita of individuals only of a specific race. Don't bother though, you will find that blacks lose horribly.

>implying spirituality and scientific discovery are mutually exclusive
typical undergraduate retard making wild assumptions for the sake of maintaining your ideology. There is absolutely no evidence to back this up. Isaac Newton himself scoured the bible for hidden messages. Please try using your brain to actually consider the opposing argument.

>> No.7483969

>>7483913
Portuguese slave traders found that Japanese slaves were generally better for clerical work while African slaves were better for physical work.

>> No.7483975

>>7483959
>Don't bother though, you will find that blacks lose horribly
This is what people who don't want to lose an argument say

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_Empire

>The empire grew rich from the trans-Saharan trade in gold and salt. This trade produced an increasing surplus, allowing for larger urban centers. It also encouraged territorial expansion to gain control over the lucrative trade routes.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Africa#600-1600AD

>Trade with the Berber people, and other groups, drove the growth of the Ghana empire, which traded its gold, kola nuts, and slaves. West Africans created a demand for salt, which was collected at desert oases, and which they used to preserve food as well as for seasoning it.[4]

>The empire of Ghana, under the leadership of Tenkamenin in 1062, experienced an economic, political and cultural golden age. Its organization, military strength (200,000 military professionals) and economic prosperity could be compared favorably to many of the kingdoms of Europe of the time [5]

>In 1324, Mansa Musa, the king of Mali, made a historically famous Hajj (pilgrimage) to Mecca. There was an enormous group organized to undertake the Hajj with the king. It included "60,000 men, including 1200 servants" and records show that Mansa Musa gave out so much gold in Egypt, that its economy became depressed.[6]

NOw this isn't to denote European and Asian empires. You're right, records show they're unrivaled, but I think you're not giving Sub-Saharans the credit they deserve.

I blame America for this though. They did a good job of making sure the negro didn't find out about this and they did an even better job of culturally ruining the American ones.

>> No.7483989

>>7483975
It sounds like Ghana was simply sitting on huge amounts of gold reserves, which would make it a statistical outlier. If you think Qatar is a shining example of efficiency and productivity because they have the highest GDP per capita due to all the oil money, then you have lost all reason. You sure did get me though, next time I'll be sure to include the obvious caveat NOT to include outliers, which should go without saying. Unfortunately, you have made absolutely no progress in proving that all humans have equivalent levels of intelligence.

>> No.7483993

>>7483942

>That's because the blacks were actually able to survive and breed, giving them greater chances for "success" (if that's what you want to call African Americans). This is not because they have any advantageous traits, it's because most of the native Americans died off from diseases that other countries brought over.

Anon read your post again, you just said that blacks didn't have any advantageous traits. But the fact they survived the same diseases and sub-par living conditions that native americans delt with also means that at the very least they had better suited endurance and immune systems. So the truth is they did in fact have "advantageous traits" as you put it.

>>7483956

Name me a native american that won a nobel prize in any category. Name me a native american that was hired to work on the Manhattan Project. Name me a native american that recieved a von nuemann prize. Name me a native american billionaire.

I know you want to shit on blacks but give credit where credit is due.

>somehow this proves blacks are as smart as whites and asians

This was never even talked about in the responding post, learn to have better reading comprehension skills.

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>>7483989
>Outliers

Sure pal. We can go at it whenever you wish.

;^)

>> No.7484006

>>7482923
>anything i disagree with is not science because science is infallible and pure

>> No.7484078

>>7483993
Of course there are outliers. Why even bother saying this? The question at hand is the the intelligence of populations as an average.

Also, the question of "if blacks are as smart as whites" is implied. I added on asians because I actually do like to give credit where credit is due.

>>7483996
The argument was that blacks don't succeed anywhere, unless they are literally sitting on a pile of gold apparently. All I see in your image are a bunch of shithole empires that surely paled in comparison to their western and asian counterparts.

>> No.7484120

>>7484078
>The argument was that blacks don't succeed anywhere, unless they are literally sitting on a pile of gold apparently.

But now you're changing the rules I gave you an example of blacks succeeding and then you switch the scenario to cater to your argument.

Regardless, isn't that how successful empires are formed? THey have resources that people want, so they use those resources to further benefit their homeland. Ghana just managed to sitting on a pile of gold. They used that gold to build up a kingdom, which was successful. Therefore that is success.

>All I see in your image are a bunch of shithole empires that surely paled in comparison to their western and asian counterparts.

So have other people, somehow you manage to only call out Africans though.

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>>7483006
>poverty disproportionately affects black people

What absurd bullshit. There are far more poor white people than blacks at every pay scale. It's ludicrous to believe they can't get ahead when they have the same exactly opportunities for education if not vastly more with variously scholarships and affirmative action to aid them.

I agree that at least 90% of the problem is indeed social, but it is not white society that is at fault. The black ghettos are toxic cesspools that are ruining generation after generation of people that could've made something of themselves if they grew up outside of that mentality. Black culture celebrates crime, violence, and ignorance. Children in that environment grow up wanting to be sleazy thugs and not successful law abiding professionals. If a black student is studying in school, he is bullied for "acting white" by <span class="math">\bf{other ~ black ~ students}[/spoiler]. If parents (black or mixed) are sending their kids to school and keeping them out of gangs, <span class="math">\bf{other ~ black ~ parents}[/spoiler] attack them for raising their kids "all white" and not letting them join the "community business". If a black adult is simply reading in public, <span class="math">\bf{other ~ blacks}[/spoiler] will come up to them and harass them for "trying to be white". If a black man by the age of 30 hasn't impregnated someone yet, <span class="math">\bf{other ~ blacks}[/spoiler] with say "he gay". If a black thug with a long criminal record commits a crime, other blacks say "he didn't do nothing" and "he was a good boy".

Poverty, remnants from civil war 150 years ago, and white supremacy are convenient scapegoats to avoid blaming blacks for their own shit. Fix the ghettos and you fix the vast majority of the problems blacks face.

>> No.7484125

>>7484078
>The argument was that blacks don't succeed anywhere
Well those blacks succeeded in their land. Everywhere else they were brought and stuck at the bottom of the totem pole and still managed to rise up.

Even in Haiti they rose up against slavery and free'd themselves.

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>>7483891

8/10

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>>7484078
>blacks don't succeed anywhere

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>>7484132

>> No.7484143

>>7484137
Oh I agree. Gangsters have been destroying black communities.

>> No.7484152

>>7484120
I never changed the rules, you did. You're warping my definition of "success." The existence of African civilizations is only a "success" when you compare it to other Africans. I only counted Ghana because it was the only one that could have ever been comparable to a western civilization, but that's only because it was given EXTREME advantages in the form of the dirt they're standing on literally making them rich.

No black community has ever achieved any level of success relative to whites or asians without the odds being extremely tilted in their favor. That was my initial argument and it hasn't changed. You have yet to refute that, and honestly the fact that you're finding it so difficult to do so should be a wake-up call to you. Unfortunately you don't see me as a potential source of truth, so you're not actually considering my arguments. You're just seeing me as another evil racist to attempt to refute so you can feel better about yourself.

>> No.7484157

>>7484135
Even if that image is not hyperbolized and is in no way misleading, it's still an artificially created black community. Also, you failed to mention that even this community is lackluster compared to the whites on wall street.

>> No.7484159

>>7484078

>Of course there are outliers. Why even bother saying this?

Because the conversation is about native americans and african americans. Not african americans, whites and asians.

The frequency of these "outliers" in the african american population are more common than the native american population. Yes they are outliers, when compared to whites and asians. But no one is making an argument about blacks having more success than whites or asians.

It's about blacks having more success than native americans so when only comparing the two, these achievements are no longer outliers because for these to be outliers would imply native americans have achieved more compared to blacks and the evidence just isn't there.
>The question at hand is the the intelligence of populations as an average.

No the question at hand has been about successes between different populations. You inserted intelligence with your remark despite the previous several post being more about general success.

>> No.7484161

>>7484124
>There are far more poor white people than blacks at every pay scale
citation needed

you're also forgetting that their awful social conditions is a result of heritable behavioral differences

I mean we have smart breeds of dogs like the border collie who will for example learn a new command in one or two tries, and have the ability to herd livestock. On the other hand you have dumb breeds of dogs who often require dozens of tries to learn simple tasks.

These breeds have less variation in their genome than humans. We can extrapolate and say that there must be biological influence on factors like physical and mental qualities just as the 100 meter Olympic sprint world records for both males and females are claimed by people of African heritage.

People love to accept the above idea, that niggers are faster at sprinting because they are so desperate to grasp for egalitarian social justice bullshit, but just that very idea implies the notion that contradicts their original egalitarian premises.

And then we have consistent studies and observations suggesting differences in subraces which the sjws don't want to hear so they reject them and wallow in their ignorance.

Yes, there are environmental factors, but they are factors created by the very race which nurtured them.

>> No.7484162

>claims races don't exist
>posts image that defends racialism
wot

>> No.7484165

>>7484132
obama is a mulatto

>> No.7484173

>>7484161
>>There are far more poor white people than blacks at every pay scale
>citation needed

http://www.nclej.org/poverty-in-the-us.php
>In 2012, 9.7% of non-Hispanic whites (18.9 million) were living in poverty, while over a quarter of Hispanics (13.6 million), and 27.2% of blacks (10.9 million) were living in poverty.

>> No.7484178

>>7484159
Yes, because the initial question of success was one I proposed in order to prove the greater point, which was that ultimately blacks have a lesser intelligence than people from any other race on average.

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>>7484152
>that's only because it was given EXTREME advantages in the form of the dirt they're standing on literally making them rich.

As I said, this is how empires are formed. Through trade of resources. I brought that up, because you were trying to paint Negroes as primitive animals, but those empires show they were capable of empires just like any other race.

>No black community has ever achieved any level of success relative to whites or asians without the odds being extremely tilted in their favor.

No, that's not extremely tilted, that's just luck. It'd be tilted in their favor if neighboring Arab societies had decided NOT to attack their lands, however they did, which gives these empires a huge handicap seeing as how advanced the Arab weaponry were.

>You have yet to refute that, and honestly the fact that you're finding it so difficult to do so should be a wake-up call to you.

My refute was, this is the same as any other race. You just have a bias against the black race.

>Unfortunately you don't see me as a potential source of truth, so you're not actually considering my arguments.

That's not true. You're failing to acknowledge the set backs many of Africans have had. I haven't denied that the whites and asians have beautiful civilizations, but you haven't acknowledge the fact that blacks aren't less simplistic than any other race.

I've considered the facts you've put down, and i've came up with my own conclusion that you're simply ignorant of African history.

>You're just seeing me as another evil racist to attempt to refute so you can feel better about yourself.

You seem to projecting here. I realized that racist isn't an insult. To call your racist would be meaningless as an insult because you already embrace, so why would I give a fuck if you're "le evil racist." I'm not some liberal.

>> No.7484185

>>7484178

If that was your point, you just fucking failed.

Google khoisan, Tungus and Altai all three populations have an average intelligence in their 70's.

Seriously do your FUCKING RESEARCH when discussing a topic. Do not think you can come into /sci/ spewing inaccurate shit without being challenged.

>> No.7484188

>>7484165
Oh my bad.

Here's Ben Carson.

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>>7484188
I should've posted him instead of Obama seeing how the Asian image is a doctor

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>>7482976

>> No.7484195

>>7482959
>Watson clearly implied that blacks are strictly stupider than whites
>strictly
no
read the quote again

>> No.7484196

>>7484185

Same anon, my bad those populations have average IQs in the 60's/70's.

Also lets not forget about the aboriginals also.

>> No.7484208

>>7483975
>empire made money selling slaves
>it's slavery's fault they aren't richer

right...

>> No.7484271

>>7484173
so that contradicts your statement if you're talking about more as in percentage.

>> No.7484291

>>7484271
Clearly "more" refers to absolute numbers. More whites are poor yet more blacks are criminals in absolute terms.

>> No.7484303

>>7482927
wtf you just took that image and pasted over it. you just replaced "women" with "black people" I've seen that posted a million times before, Watson never said that

>> No.7484315

>>7484291
That is a detail you need to elaborate on, and this equivocation led you to a non sequitur.

He originally stated poverty disproportionately affects black people, keyword proportionately.

>> No.7484327

>>7483948
>West Africans were very spiritual people, they did not pursue technology

That is inherently contradictory. Spirituality leads to the desire to understand and inquisition which itself leads to progress and discovery. You don't read mystery novels only to let them end with "it's a mystery to everybody" on page 2 and you don't examine the metaphysical to avoid the physical.

Don't confuse it with the hippie style "spirituality" which is just mindless escapism.

>Progress by what definition

Mathematical and mass murder potential

>> No.7484332

>>7482923
Because being white is all some people have.

>> No.7484337

>>7483816
>i only hire bodybuilders because the only kind of dedication i respect is that which i can recognise instantly by looking at a person
implying you hire anyone you NEET fuck
>semifat master race

>> No.7484361

>>7484315
>proportion
>The relation of one part to another or to the whole with respect to magnitude, quantity, or degree.

Blacks underachieve far more than what poverty would explain.

Many people leave far shittier country with just the clothes on their backs, enter America, and achieve far greater success than African Americans do after being here for generations. Examples:

>http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/04/pf/college/immigrant-accepted-all-ivy-league-schools-harold-ekeh/
>http://nypost.com/2015/04/05/meet-the-student-accepted-into-all-eight-ivy-league-schools/
>Ekeh was born in Nigeria and came to the United States when he was eight.
>Outside of the lab, Ekeh directs a youth choir at his church, plays the drums, is part of Key Club and Model UN and was elected to the Homecoming court. He speaks Flawless English, Igbo and Spanish and has a 100.5% GPA. He's proud of acing the AP History Exam despite his early struggles with the subject.
>credited his parents, Paul and Roselin — former clerks at a Target store in Queens — for challenging him to study and do his best, “no matter how hard times got,”
>Ekeh was accepted into the other five schools he applied to: MIT, NYU, Johns Hopkins University, Stony Brook University and Vanderbilt University.

>http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/31/ivy-league-admissions-college-university/7119531/
>Kwasi Enin, first-generation American from Ghana, 17-year-old violist and aspiring physician
>He will also have taken 11 Advanced Placement courses by the time he graduates this spring. He's a musician who sings in the school's a capella group and volunteers at Stony Brook University Hospital's radiology department
>Accepted to all 8 Ivy League colleges

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>>7484337
>semifat

>>>/out/

>> No.7484367

>>7484327

That anon is somewhat right that west africa was more focus on spirituality than technology. But they're also a bit wrong in that said spirituality did involved emphasis in metallurgy and a binary number system through divination.

So while they had some form of math and science they didn't try to systematically build upon it constantly.

>> No.7484388

>>7484363
i suffered from depression for a long time, getting out of the hole i dug for myself with a lot of diet and exercise tyvm

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>>7483993
>Name me a native american billionaire.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187456/Shakopee-Mdewakanton-Tribe-Casino-revenue-pays-member-1million-year.html

>credit where credit is due

Tail end of the Gaussian curve.

>> No.7484666

>>7484125
>Even in Haiti they rose up against slavery and free'd themselves.

Haiti gained independence in 1804 and still is a shit hole 211 years later.

>> No.7484686

I don't know how someone can look at people and see how different we are physically, but then think we must be exactly the same mentally.
Do brains not evolve and change?

>> No.7484740

>>7484686

I don't like the conclusion therefore, by proof of my feels, it's wrong and you're a racephobic bigot!

We need laws to make the internet a safe space that's free from such evil hate speech!