/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.7451633]

Has there ever been a smarter man? He literally invented Physics and Calculus.

[Anonymous No.7451635]

>>7451633
Didn't Aristotle invent physics?

[Anonymous No.7451636]

>>7451633
That's not a portrait of Aristotle or Leibniz's.

[Anonymous No.7451638]

>>7451635
>>7451636
Hivemind.

[Anonymous No.7451944]

>>7451633
I can't even fathom how difficult life must have been before he invented physics. Just imagine you're dropping something and you don't know if it'll fall up or down.

[Anonymous No.7452042]

Archimedes was doin it a couple thousand years earlier

[Anonymous No.7452053]

>>7451633

He DISCOVERED how mathematics affects the physical world.

God was the inventor of every scientific discipline

[Anonymous No.7452057]

>>7452053
And God's name is Aristotle

[Anonymous No.7452058]

>invented calculus
lol

[Anonymous No.7452174]

>>7451633
Even surprisingly many of the things he supposedly "invented" were ATLEAST partially thought by someone else already.

[Anonymous No.7452187]

>>7451633
Leibniz

[Anonymous No.7452222]

>>7451633
>He literally invented Physics
Newton said that God did it.

>not my African Archimedes
>not my African Galileo
>not my African Max Planck

[Anonymous No.7452224]

>>7452057
kek
>>7452058
Leibniz pls go

[Anonymous No.7452225]

>>7452174
I recently learned that einstein was the same way.
I thought he came up with the idea of relativity, but its at least as old as galileo, and was further developed in the 19th century. Even the maths for special relativity came from lorentz

[Anonymous No.7452745]

No

[Anonymous No.7452746]

>>7452174
This is the case for everything. Still there is only one man who put it all together into a coherent package.

[Anonymous No.7452751]

>>7452225
Everyone builds on everyone else. Both Newton and Einstein were two steps ahead of everyone else, though.

Still, I don't really like the "great men" view of history, someone else would have come up with the same shit eventually. You just can't reinvent shit.

[Anonymous No.7452752]

>>7451633
GauB

[Anonymous No.7452797]

>>7451633
>He literally invented Physics and Calculus.

Study what he actually did and you'll find he extrapolated from the work done before him, just like is always the case.
The idea of calculus was on the verge of being formulated just as Newton enters the scene, why Leibniz famously invents it independently from Newton in the same period.

Singing Newtons praise is fine, the man is impressive, but you should realize the reality is more nuanced and complicated than sweeping statements like your Op piece would have it.

[Anonymous No.7452800]

No

[Anonymous No.7452817]

thats not walter rudin

[Anonymous No.7452822]

>>7452817
uninformed undergrad question: was this guy a true badass in mathematical research or was he just known for writing good books with slick proofs?

[Anonymous No.7452825]

>Read Euler, read Euler, he is master of us all

[Anonymous No.7452827]

>>7452797
Don't hate, play the game. I'm currently deep in 3D printing and drones because they are hot now. I actually had a "Leibnitz and Newton" moment when I decided to start selling 3D printed figurines of people and literally a few weeks alter some big company starts doing the same thing in my country when no-one but me was previously. Didn't really get anywhere because my advertising was shit and they are still too expensive to sell to everybody but it goes to show that you don't have to be a genius to be the first to do something, you just have to be in the right place at the right time.

[Anonymous No.7452840]

>>7452822
i mean he's smarter than anyone on his board but yeah he's pretty much only known for his books

[Anonymous No.7452844]

>>7452822
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBcWRZMP6xs
Not bad

[Anonymous No.7452852]

>>7452827
You just compared inventing calculus to printing waifus anon. Beyond stating that this actually occurred I'm at a loss for words.

[Anonymous No.7452856]

>>7451633
You can do great things when you lack emotion and master the fundamentals of physics at age 12(ish).

[Anonymous No.7452894]

>>7452852
Kek

[Anonymous No.7452907]

>>7452852
Printing waifus is just as complex as inventing calculus. Ho much effort do you think it took to design the electronics that runs the computer that runs the mesh editing software? how much effort did it take to code the mesh editing software? How much effort did it take to design the algorithms that run the 3D printer? How much effort did it take to design the mechanics of the 3D printer? The point is I had to do none of that I just jumped in at the end and got all the glory as "that local kid who can shrink you into a statue"

[Anonymous No.7452915]

>>7451633
Put Godel, Turing, Gauss, von Neumann, Erdos, Netwon, Leibniz, Telsa, da Vinci, Ramanujan, Tao, Perelman, Church, Grothendieck, Kolmogorov, Riemann in a single room and you'd literally have the most intelligent people to have ever existed in a single place.

[Anonymous No.7453020]

>>7452915
da vinci and turing are overrated, you forgot aristotle and plato

[Anonymous No.7453032]

>>7451636
>>7451635
>>7451633
These cattle-people may be clever but truly their minds exist solely to service the Chosen.

The dog fetches the duck. The goy fetches the wealth.

[Anonymous No.7453088]

>>7451633
Archimedes, Feynman, and many others derived their own forms of calculus. Feynman at an even younger age if I recall correctly. What does it matter where his "intelligence" stands on a scale? He was crucial and existed at the right time and place.

[Anonymous No.7453333]

Whats with all the Aristotle love? He was wrong about pretty much everything and the guy held back scientific progress for almost two millennium. We were better off without him.

[Anonymous No.7453352]

>>7451944
Underrated post here

[Anonymous No.7453354]

>>7452222
Wat the hell?

[Anonymous No.7453357]

>>7453088
what feynman did was really insignificant though

[Anonymous No.7453358]

>>7452825
Euler couldn't choose a decent hat to save his life

[Anonymous No.7453377]

>>7451633
Yeah.

Me.

[Anonymous No.7453388]

>>7452915
Where's Fourier?

[Anonymous No.7453393]

>>7453357
You take that back!

[Anonymous No.7453669]

>>7453358
And that's why he's dead

[Anonymous No.7453704]

>>7452915
>no Bernouillis

[Anonymous No.7453804]

>>7451633
but he was a shit tier alchemist

t. Nicolas Flamel

[Anonymous No.7453812]

>>7452852
Holy shit why i find this so funny

[Anonymous No.7453835]

>>7452915
Without very strong evidence that pre-agricultural humans were less intelligent, it's likely that there have been hundreds of people more intelligent than them .

[Anonymous No.7453856]

>>7453835
Never heard of the Flynn effect, I take it?

[Anonymous No.7454218]

>>7452915
Cauchy, Weierstrass, Hilbert, Fourier, Euler, Schwarz, and many more...

[Anonymous No.7454229]

No Michael Faraday? Really /sci/? The guy invented both the electric motor and the electric generator. He discovered electrolysis, invented the modern battery, and discovered polarization of light. Many other things as well. Dude was fucking incredible.

[Anonymous No.7454258]

>>7453032
Putting Meyer Rothschild on /sci/?
G T F O
T
F
O

[Anonymous No.7454282]

>>7453020
Turing is not overrated. He single-handily created the field of recursion theory and solved an open problem in logic. Worked in other pure areas of mathematics like almost periodic functions which von Neumann thought of Turing's work as.

[Anonymous No.7454291]

>>7452907
And what else you, local kid, expect people to think about you? That you are genius like Newton? lol. What an idiot

[Anonymous No.7455000]

>>7451633
Did somebody call me?

[Anonymous No.7455030]

>>7453856
>Flynn effect,

>1930 to present

Our grand-grand-parents were dumb because of pollution and malnutrition. This is well known.

Height is also correlated with intelligence and good nutrition and we have estimates of height of hunter gatherers being on average as tall as us and the people in between all being shorter because of their poorer diets.

[Anonymous No.7455045]

>>7455030

And not that's not a hyperbole:

>From an academic perspective, Marx's work contributed to the birth of modern sociology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_marx

[Anonymous No.7455070]

>>7451633
ya; pic related:

[Anonymous No.7455769]

>>7453358

Wasn't much for crossing bridges, either.

[Anonymous No.7455783]

>>7455070
How much of a popsci are you?

[Anonymous No.7455835]

Leibniz and Pythagoras both blow Newton out of the water.
I am not denying Newton's genius, but the guy was fucking nuts. He literally thought he was Jesus 2.0. Obsessed with alchemy and biblical encryptions that don't exist.

Now besides that, Newtonian physics are awesome, but losing a lot of functionality as we expand the margins of what we can observe. His calculus blows dick. It literally held England behind because they were using his retarded notation.

Leibniz invented the calculus we use today. If it weren't for him, Newton would have never published his version. Leibniz invented goddamn binary and elementary theory of computer science centuries before it was applied. Best of all, his wasn't a douchebag.

Pythagoras, well that's just an opinion of mine really. There's not much to work with because his society was so secret. From what we can tell, they were the first to demonstrate mathematical proofs and knew that math governed everything, and this was even before the catholics started fucking shit up.

[Anonymous No.7455841]

>>7454218

[Anonymous No.7456200]

>>7451944
>Physics is the study of nature u fucking retard, natural laws still apply even if nobody studies them.

[Anonymous No.7456214]

>>7452915
>Tesla
>Da Vinci
>Tao

Those three people are serious meme tier, don't get me wrong Tao is a genius (the other two, no, just no) but to put him in a list that contains people like Gauss and Riemann is retarded.

[Anonymous No.7456220]

>>7451633
what about heisenberg?
i have no clue what you have to smoke to come up with matrix mechanics

[Anonymous No.7456227]

>>7456220
Didn't he just realise that he needed non-commuting observables to solve whatever problem he was working on?

[Anonymous No.7456230]

>>7453333
you're thinking of jesus

[Anonymous No.7456257]

>>7452222
>Newton said that God did it.
Newton also devoted much of his life to Alchemy.
He was a product of his time, as are we all.

[Anonymous No.7456261]

>>7452915
>no Galileo
>no Feynman
>no Gell-Mann
>no Einstein
>no Bohr
>no Planck
>no Crick
get fucked.

[Anonymous No.7456269]

>>7455835
>>7456214
>hurr durr insignificant because they weren't mathematicians
>let's call great inventors and physicists unimportant!

lel, /sci/ is still full of idiots all these years later.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/541840.stm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci
http://www.ucla.edu/about/awards-and-honors/faculty/fields-medal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#Radio

[Anonymous No.7456270]

>>7456261
>Crick and no Watson
>>>/out/

[Anonymous No.7456277]

>>7456269
Don't be a retard all your life, it was a list that contained people who had fundamentally changed how we understood mathematics or physics. To include Da Vinci (who basically just drew loads of pretty pictures) or Tesla (he didn't invent AC, just made the first commercially viable AC motor, he was an idiot who had a pre maxwellian, pre atomic world view) is retarded. Tao is the only one who might be controversial, but again to call him one of the smartest people who ever lived is just wrong.

[Anonymous No.7456281]

>>7456270
Watson is incredibly smart, but Crick was a true genius. Read Watson's book about the discovery of the structure and mechanisms of DNA; he's constantly marveling at how Crick is always one step ahead.

[Anonymous No.7456291]

>>7456281
C'mon though, Watson man..

Also,
>reading books
>ever

[Anonymous No.7456602]

>>7451633
But wasn't he an asshole?

[Anonymous No.7456623]

>>7452915
> Tesla
> da Vinci

[Anonymous No.7457025]

>>7451633

According to the modern anti-white philosophers .. it is clear that Newton was of African decent.
All the paintings of him were "racially biased" to stress all his non-African traits. :-)

[Anonymous No.7457052]

>>7456602
That makes him an even better person imo. Nigga didn't take no shit from fake ass niggas.

[Anonymous No.7457459]

>>7457052
>>>/instagram/

[Anonymous No.7457915]

>>7456602
>But wasn't he an asshole?
Yes. He was a mincing faggot and a complete dick when provoked.
What does that have to do with him being a genius?

[Anonymous No.7458002]

Jacob Barnett

[Anonymous No.7458140]

Euler, Archimedes, Gauss, Von Neumann.

[Anonymous No.7458163]

>>7452822
He has some pretty cool results, as does his wife.

[Anonymous No.7458409]

>>7451633
low
hanging
fruit

von neumann was the smartest human being who ever lived, by a huge margin

[Anonymous No.7458412]

>>7458409
how does that story of von neumann go, where he had a recreative interest in byzantium and was more knowledgable on the topic than the worlds leading expert on it.

it seemed pretty common opinion amongst a lot of the physicists who worked with him that von neumann was the smartest person theyve ever met, and one saw him play and talk with his child and wondered if that interaction is similar to what von neumann feels on a daily basis with the rest of humanity.

[Anonymous No.7458417]

>>7458412
i didn't realize von neumann played a pivotal role in MAD

he might have saved billions of lives by that

[Anonymous No.7458418]

>>7458412
Also my favorite description is nobel laureates describing trying to keep up with von neuman like trying to keep up with a racecar while on a unicycle

[Anonymous No.7458422]

>>7458417
he wanted a preemptive strike
"you say, 'start bombing this afternoon?' I say, 'why not this morning?'"

[Anonymous No.7458443]

isaac newton was a delusional nutcase, studying 'secret bible mathematics' more than the real world

[Anonymous No.7458447]

>>7458443
You realize it was the 17th century, right? Look into what the other Royal Society members were doing.

[Anonymous No.7458448]

>>7458002
This is low quality bait, but someone will inevitably take it.

[Anonymous No.7458460]

>>7456200
are you fucking stupid read a history textbook!
before newton wrote his laws objects would accelerate at unpredictable rates. he wrote them because he was pissed off that an apple smashed onto his head even though the net force was 0.

[Anonymous No.7458474]

>>7455783
kek da vinci theorized everything fool
also was actually well rounded in every fucking field that existed and was a perfect human

[Anonymous No.7458478]

>>7451633
Newton, Shakespeare and michelangelo are prob are the in their respective arts.

[Anonymous No.7458483]

>>7458478
indeed

[Anonymous No.7458505]

>>7456214
>Da Vinci wasn't a genius
Kill yourself, my man.

[Anonymous No.7458537]

>>7458422
why was he so edgy?

[Anonymous No.7458544]

That's not Parmenides

[Anonymous No.7458545]

>>7458505
Go back to reddit, my man.

[Anonymous No.7458716]

>>7453333
he practically invented scientific method. he was wrong on many things but it wasn't his fault people refused to think for themselves for a long time.

[Anonymous No.7458748]

yes. me. and you will never know who I am

[Anonymous No.7458750]

>>7458716
>he practically invented scientific method
No. That was Galileo.
Aristotle was more of a natural philosopher and used reason, not reproducible experiments to come to conclusions. Granted, there was only so much anyone at his time (given the early technology) could do, but it was with Galileo that modern science and the practice of providing evidence to prove your assumptions came to be.

[Anonymous No.7458752]

>>7451633
>He literally invented Physics and Calculus.

[Anonymous No.7458766]

>>7451633
It appears you forgot your picture of Von Neumann OP.

[Anonymous No.7458767]

"Calculus" before Weierstrass had nothing to do with mathematics.

[Anonymous No.7458808]

>>7456261
no DIRAC ????????
get FUCKED.

[Anonymous No.7458859]

>>7456261
bohr is literally the only great mind you listed

[Anonymous No.7458884]

>>7456220
>>7456227
When Heisenberg was given his Nobel prize from the work he did with Born and Jordan, when Born was asked his opinion on him not getting the prize too, and he said that Heisenberg didn't even know about matrices before he showed it to him and was consequently pissed.

[Anonymous No.7458888]

>>7451633
>No Euler.
Yeah get fucked. Smartest man to have ever lived.

[Anonymous No.7458953]

>>7451633

Smartest man... just being a scientist does NOT make you smartest man. Smartest man should be a scientist and a politician and a businessman and be a philosopher and be popular.

This man was actually given the original United States constitution to make any markups he wanted.
His writing were and philosophy heavily influenced the original founding fathers of America.
At the time of his death he was the most famous man in the world.
He was so successful as a business man that he retired early in life to spend his time in scientific pursuits
He was instrumental in early electrical science (he is the reason we call them positive and negative charges)
He invented the bifocal glasses and the Franklin stove (patented it and then gave it away for public good) and the lightening rod.
He proved lighting was electricity.

Benjamin Franklin .. worlds smartest man

[Anonymous No.7458956]

>>7458953
>Smartest man should be a scientist and a politician and a businessman and be a philosopher and be popular.
Lex Luthor?

[Anonymous No.7458965]

>>7456281
If they were so smart, why did they stole their work from other researchers?

[Anonymous No.7458978]

>>7458953
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

[Anonymous No.7458979]

>>7451633
No field in science can attribute all its knowledge to one man. He did not "invent" physics... but he greatly contributed. He was one if not the first to use calculus. But it cannot be said if he actually invented calculus as we are not yet certain if mathematics is invented or discovered.

Having said that, Newton was a great scientist but please refrain from idiolizing him it makes you look dumb and childish. That's someting for sheeple watching celebs.

[Anonymous No.7459171]

>>7458979
Wtf? Why can't we idolize people who have made great contributions to science?

[Anonymous No.7459269]

>>7459171
Because
>it makes you look dumb and childish. That's someting for sheeple watching celebs.

in b4 just pretending to be retarded

[Anonymous No.7459273]

>>7458965
you're confusing him with einstein

[Anonymous No.7459415]

>>7451633
he is like the steve jobs of science. Copied everyone else's work and got the credit

[Anonymous No.7459792]

>>7451633
Leibniz
Archimedes

[Anonymous No.7459963]

yeah, me.

It took him his whole life to learn physics and calculus, I learned both in 3 semesters

[Anonymous No.7459968]

>>7451633

GAUB

[Anonymous No.7459971]

>>7459963
Every grad student in this thread is laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.7460483]

>>7451633
while he didn't do both completely and by himself

I do think Newton is probably the most important man to ever live

[Anonymous No.7460491]

>>7456257
>implying you can't change elements into other elements
ever heard of chemistry

it is feasible and we know now Newton once again was right

[Anonymous No.7461217]

>>7458412
George Pólya once said about Neumann. "If in the course of a lecture I stated an unsolved problem, the chances were he'd come to me as soon as the lecture was over, with the complete solution in a few scribbles on a slip of paper."

[Anonymous No.7461327]

>>7456281
This.

Watson bummed Crick.

[Anonymous No.7461334]

"In Newton this island may boast of having produced the greatest and rarest genius that ever arose for the ornament and instruction of the species"
Hume

"Bacon, Locke and Newton... I consider them as the three greatest men that have ever lived, without any exception, and as having laid the foundation of those superstructures which have been raised in the Physical and Moral sciences"
- Jefferson

[Anonymous No.7461341]

>>7451633
james sidis?

[Anonymous No.7461411]

>>7461334
Yes, to relative contemporaries Newton seemed to be amazing (I mean, he definitely was amazing). Leibniz, however, was so far ahead of his time that even his contemporaries didn't understand his genius.

Newton was necessary to take the next big step, but history will look upon Leibniz as one of the most massive geniuses to have ever existed. One almost suspects the existence of Leibniz proves time travel will one day be possible.