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7423641 No.7423641 [Reply] [Original]

Is our concept of time just the measurement of times the earth has revolved around the sun, or is there some way that time really exists as an independent force? Is time real?

>> No.7423652

>>7423641
No.

>> No.7423658

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSA2w3Ewnyg

>> No.7423665

>>7423641
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock
any division of time is definitely arbitrary, but we're getting frighteningly good at keeping it

>> No.7423671

>>7423658
stupid.

>> No.7424389

Time is relative to Earth cause we can age and perceive that to be time. But time itself can be described through the expansion on the universe, with the big bang forward we can conceptualize a timeline of events so time exists in that manner

>> No.7424413

Time is the slowth of (as opposed to the speed of) light.

>> No.7424440

>>7423641
As far as human perception goes the accumulative speed of our solar system speeding through our galaxy has the biggest impact on local dialation. The times when humans supposedly lived 800 plus years would most likely be in conjunction with vector changes in our arm of the galaxy as well as constructive gravitational interference as we cross galactic field lines. Turns out living an extra 700 years is as simple as where in the galactic year your planet is.

>> No.7424453

Time can be understood in a threefold way

Time in the transcendental sense (a priori form of the intellect)

Time in the empirical sense (a posteriori experience of duration and a constant flow of moments)

Time in the abstract sense (mathematical, measured by mechanical devices and tracked by clocks)

Thus it may be said that time is ideal, real, and conceptual

>> No.7424482
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7424482

>>7423658
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

>> No.7424484

>>7424453
Sounds like you took that right out of "on man in the universe" by Aristotle.

>> No.7424487

>>7424440
Did you just suggest that at any time in human history people have lived to 800 years of age?

>> No.7424492

>>7424487
Are you suggesting an objects velocity has no bearing on its time dialation?

>> No.7424500

Time is the same as mathematics. Just imagined abstractions we made up to make life more convenient.

>> No.7424509

>>7423641

It's more like a frame of reference.

So yes it is, as real as a picture frame is to a painting.

>> No.7424597

>>7423641

>implying temporality isn't a synthetic a priori truth

please read Kant's prolegomena, you knuckle-dragging harlequin babies.

>> No.7424609

>>7424487
Interestingly enough the bible said back in those days people lived that long too. Is that some crazy coincidence or what?

>> No.7424616

>>7424492
Time dilation is a relative thing.
We can't say objectively that we are moving quickly and the objects we are passing are still. From our frame of reference, we are still and they are passing by us at greater speed, meaning that we see them as slowed. They see themselves as still, and see us as being dilated.
The point is that from the point of view of somebody on Earth, their time dilation is always zero and we never notice a change in how long we live relative to, say the sun (by which we measure years, of course).

>> No.7426425

Time does not exist. What most people consider time is merely the measure of cyclic physical occurrences.

>> No.7426437

>>7423641

Time is perception of entropy.