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7420321 No.7420321 [Reply] [Original]

Is it ridiculous to believe humans are the most advanced intelligence in the universe?

One planet had to be first in creating intelligent life. Why not Earth? Given how few life-sustaining planets there are and how unlikely life is, it is totally possible humanity is the most intelligent being in the universe.

>> No.7420323
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7420323

>>7420321
OH please.

>> No.7420678
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The Crown of Creation Syndrome is strong with this OP.

>> No.7420695

>>7420323
its just a plastic wallmart bag that found its way to space

>> No.7420701

>>7420321
>Is it ridiculous to believe humans are the most advanced intelligence in the universe?
Yes.

You probably grew up in a city or suburb, which explains your thinking.

>> No.7420732

>>7420321

Yes, it is plausible.

Though it's quite boring...

>> No.7420734

>>7420732
>Yes, it is possible.
Fixed that for you.

>> No.7420736

>>7420734

Yes, you're right.

>> No.7420748

>>7420321
>Is it ridiculous to believe humans are the most advanced intelligence in the universe?
Yes totally ridiculous, given the size of the observable universe

>One planet had to be first in creating intelligent life.
There are many galaxies older than our own, their are many systems in this galaxy older than our own. It's more likely life originated elsewhere before us.

>Given how few life-sustaining planets there are and how unlikely life is
you are just guessing. we don't know how common life is because we only have our own system as a reference. There could be trillions of worlds in this galaxy.

>it is totally possible humanity is the most intelligent being in the universe.
I'd say its more likely that humans are one of the few in THIS galaxy that are intelligent. The universe is too big to bring into the discussion honestly.

>> No.7420781

There is no life on any other planets because God only created life on this planet.

>> No.7420823

>>7420781
Makes sense.
Guess we cleared up the matter of alien life.

>> No.7420841

https://imgur.com/gallery/Wtog9
discus

>> No.7420846

You have to consider that habitable planets are simply planets like ours, and that we assume carbon based life is the only form of life in the universe. It is very possible that other forms of life exist beyond carbon based or even silicon based. Life originated as replicating chemicals that progressively became more complex due to selection. This process could occur in an infinite number of environments. Whether or not that replication could lead to an entity as intelligent as humans us unlikely, but unlikely doesn't mean much when you consider the size of the universe

>> No.7420855

>>7420321
Statistically if your in a universe with intellegent life it is most likly the first. Add in the Fermi Paradox and your quite possibly right. Remember we are billions of years late to the party of life creation.. every star and planet should have been harrnessed billions of years ago. To many people have an inner fan boy that doesn't want to admit alien rich sci-fi is pure fantasy.

>> No.7420876

>>7420855
you're*

>> No.7420877
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>That feel when you realize that there is a slim chance somewere in the universe intelligent life developed on two planets close together like Mars and the Earth are.
>A slim chance that it happened roughly at the same time on each one, so that they can communicate, discover each other from a distance, rush toward better space engine together so that they can conveniently enough travel and physically meet each other.

>You will never enjoy the feels of such an accomplishment

>> No.7420890

>>7420321
Maybe? We don't fucking know

>> No.7420895

>>7420890
amazing insight, thanks for contributing

>> No.7420903

>>7420895
You are not going to get a better answer than that.

>> No.7420906

>>7420841
>Even Carl Sagan (a general believer that any civilization advanced enough for interstellar travel would be altruistic, not hostile) called the practice of METI “deeply unwise and immature,” and recommended that “the newest children in a strange and uncertain cosmos should listen quietly for a long time, patiently learning about the universe and comparing notes, before shouting into an unknown jungle that we do not understand.”
Carl Sagan preaching rule 33 hallelujah

>> No.7420919

>>7420321
It's not ridiculous at all.

All the people insulting you in this thread are "le hitchhiker guide to the galaxy XD" meme tier redditors, so you shouldn't feel bad.

>> No.7420927

Not possible, since you exist OP

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>>7420927
40 keks for you sir

>> No.7420951

>>7420321
>Is it ridiculous to believe humans are the most advanced intelligence in the universe?

Given how much of the rest of the entire universe we have surveyd I'd say it's a cosmologically narcisstic belief to hold.
To me someone holding such beliefs are about equally ridiculous as a religious person, since it's based it on blind faith alone, with emphasis on 'blind'.

Fermi paradox is only deeply paradoxic as long as one hold a very naive view of the difficulty to actually detect signals over the vast distances involved.

>> No.7420959

>>7420877
>That feel when you realize that there is a slim chance somewere in the universe intelligent life developed on two planets close together like Mars and the Earth are.
>A slim chance that it happened roughly at the same time on each one, so that they can communicate, discover each other from a distance, rush toward better space engine together so that they can conveniently enough travel and physically meet each other.
>They turn out to be radically different and now are engaged in relentless conflict that will doom both of their civilizations


Dodged a bullet there tbh

>> No.7421014

>>7420321
>Is it ridiculous to believe humans are the most advanced intelligence in the galaxy?

Not that ridiculous, in fact I give it even odds


>Is it ridiculous to believe humans are the most advanced intelligence in the universe?

Many orders of magnitude more ridiculous. Vanishingly small likelihood.

>> No.7421016

>>7420951
fermi paradox is not so much about us not having detected any signals. but rather why we see no evidence of any other intelligent civilization knocking at our door steps, or rather invading the entire glaxy?
Given the principle of evolution and speaking in cosmologically vast time, there should have been plenty of squads taking over left and right already. However as you might have noticed... there is none. So i don't think this would be that much of a narcisstic belief to hold.

>> No.7421017

>>7420321
We have yet to find any evidence of a more advanced species, so it is logical

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>>7420906
>any civilization advanced enough for interstellar travel would be altruistic, not hostile

Why? Why couldn't it be an aggressive expansionist force?

>> No.7421023

>>7420906
>>Even Carl Sagan (a general believer that any civilization advanced enough for interstellar travel would be altruistic, not hostile) called the practice of METI “deeply unwise and immature,” and recommended that “the newest children in a strange and uncertain cosmos should listen quietly for a long time, patiently learning about the universe and comparing notes, before shouting into an unknown jungle that we do not understand.”

...and yet in his novel the very reasonable concerns of the skeptical national security agent are ignored when all the optimistic scientists want to follow the directives of the alien signal and build a device that they don't understand that has a function they can only vaguely guess at

>> No.7421024

>>7420321
It's ridiculous to "believe" anything you can't know.

>> No.7421031

>>7421016
The universe is massive and we've only been around with a capacity to record events for a few thousand years. It's an extremely myopic viewpoint to hold when you're dealing with such a mass of uncertainty.

How hard is it to just believe nothing, for fuck's sake.

>> No.7421047

>>7421021
It very well could be, but there are many reasons for interstellar travel that are not inherently aggressive.

>> No.7421048

>>7421024
i dont know how gravity works but i believe it

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>>7420695

>> No.7421534

>>7420321
the rough estimate is that there are 7x10^22 stars in the observable universe.

statistics demands there be at least 1 other intelligent species out there.

now the common question is
>universe 13 billion years old.
>clearly an intelligent species must have risen during the first few billion years of the universe. why havent they colonized the entire universe by now? why havent we seen them?

and a fun reply to that is
>they all perished upon reaching the technological singularity.

>> No.7421576

What if others civilization did not develop colonies because they fear that they will rebel ?
And in space, warmonger have more enemies and therefore more chances of dying quickly, thus space is probably inhabited by peaceful creature. Except if a superior race of space jihad won every wars.

>> No.7421863

Earth is magic of course. The magic pixie chemical reactions can only possibly happen here because Earth is the most important place in the cosmos, and not on the countless identical planets throughout the universe.

>> No.7421867

>>7421047
I'd say the #1 reason for interstellar travel is resources. I doubt they'd travel the universe looking to, essentially, hand out welfare checks.

>> No.7421902

>>7421534
>>7421863
life is very hard to develop. It took very specific circumstances. Not an intelligent design-fag, life was going to develop eventually given billions of years and planets. But other life might be bacteria or fish. Humans might be the most intelligent and the first. Also a meteor or other planetary doom might have hit the other planets that did develop life.

>> No.7421929

>>7421902

Evidence shows that life appeared on Earth pretty much as soon as bombardment stopped. There's nothing magical about Earth.

>> No.7421939

You know what I'm just gonna say it.
Cyanobacteria is more intelligent than us humans.

>> No.7423596

>>7421929
B-b-but, muh moon doe

>> No.7425317

>>7420748
>Yes totally ridiculous

>It's more likely

So it's not totally ridiculous, just unlikely.

>> No.7425347

>>7420323
>>7420695
It's a ghost you Sheila Dikshit.

>> No.7425367

>>7421021
Because any race that creates interstellar travel needs to be able and willing to work together for a very long time without destroying themselves first.