>modern scientists actually believe this

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Anonymous Thu Jul 9 23:08:53 2015 No.7383846 [Reply] [Original]

>modern scientists actually believe this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 23:18:30 2015 No.7383860 and?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 23:46:10 2015 No.7383892 >>7383846 HAS SCIENCE GONE TOO FAR?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:24:32 2015 No.7384132 Honestly its actually weirder they wouldn't have any cover of feathers or fur judging from the fact they were widespread over the globe. Just like animals more north need more fur to keep warm now.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:29:47 2015 No.7384141
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>>7383846
>Dinosaurs all looked like skin stretched over their fossilized bones!
>Unlike all modern animals, they had no sizable fat deposits or skin coverings that caused them to look substantially different from their skeletons!

Just because you saw it in Jurassic Park doesn't mean it's so.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:33:51 2015 No.7384149 That is one sexy cow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:39:19 2015 No.7384162 >>7383846 I bet you're one of those faggots that gets really angry over Pluto not being a planet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:44:36 2015 No.7384170 File: 270 KB, 697x554, All Yesterdays Cat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384149

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 02:54:28 2015 No.7384176 >>7384141 While it's a great point and it's pretty funny, sauropods have similar skeletons to the cows and we still build out their stomachs for all the organs and fats.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 03:01:11 2015 No.7384182 File: 245 KB, 1299x1013, tyrannosaurus_rex_by_dustdevil-d7lt0j8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nah, paleo-artists just need to get better imaginations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 03:06:29 2015 No.7384185 Do you think the T-rex was completely feathered or partially feathered?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:37:51 2015 No.7384236 >>7384182 That's more like it. One just needs to observe birds for a while to realize what complex and alien behaviour that theropods at least would have had.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:43:54 2015 No.7384240 >>7384185 Are birds partially feathered? How about partially furry mammals?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:49:18 2015 No.7384244 File: 25 KB, 636x424, rex.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384182 I bet those niggaz were kawaii. :3c And you'd be all "d'aww :'3" while the fluffy down babbies ripped into your twiching fless.

>>	slubberdegullion Fri Jul 10 04:50:56 2015 No.7384248 Evolution is a pile of steaming horseshit. all the evidence disproves it. adaptations exist (and micro evolution such as the evolution of the eocene horse to today's), but the gaps between classes in the fossil record are complete.

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Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:54:25 2015 No.7384253

>>7384170
>reptilian cat
Mammals have got such a distinct bone structure in the skull that no respectable biologist could ever make that mistake.
Hell, not even synapsids had this, so there's no excuse for any hypothetical future paleontologist to screw it up. Not even for argument's sake.

The single-boned lower jaw and three-part ossicles are a dead giveaway that you're dealing with a mammal. There's no exception up to this point in the evolutionary chain, so this is just garbage.

This guy's a fucking hack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:54:56 2015 No.7384254 File: 229 KB, 1024x731, spraying_heterodontosaur_by_hyrotrioskjan-d5qjj5w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384249 Humans have fine hair over the entire body.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:58:33 2015 No.7384257 >>7384254 are you saying that bird have a fine layer of feathers on their feet as well?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 04:59:03 2015 No.7384259

>>7384253

What if said future paleontologist existed in a time where all mammals were long extinct? For instance a future scenario where land vertebrates were wiped out entirely, then repopulated by perhaps a flying fish or cephalopod clade which eventually produced a sentient species. What would such a creature know of tetrapods, let alone mammals?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:01:02 2015 No.7384260 >>7384257 Humans have the same hair as any archetypal primate, albeit atrophied.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:03:36 2015 No.7384262

>>7384259
But if we assume that much, the whole argument that "we don't know shit about dinosaurs" falls apart.

We don't live in some distant future without reptiles. We know damn well what they look like, so we can logically draw parallels like that.

It's a retarded argument.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:08:20 2015 No.7384264 >>7384260 And so dinos cant follow bird patterns? Have you seen a flightless bird?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:10:29 2015 No.7384266 >>7384264 I never said otherwise, it is you who is an argumentative faggot please go extinct.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:13:49 2015 No.7384270 >>7384262 There you go framing dinosaurs as reptiles; humans are reptiles too by that measure. Why not frame them as birds which are far more closely related to dinosaurs than any lizard is?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:13:59 2015 No.7384272 >>7384132 Climate was a lot warmer back then though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:19:27 2015 No.7384280 >>7384270 Excuse me, "sauropsids." You know what I fucking mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:19:59 2015 No.7384282 >>7384272 Define "then" was it the same climate for the whole 190 million years of the mesozoic? Or just the 80 million years of the cretaceous? The whole world same climate? Really, do you get your science from childrens' book illustrations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:20:17 2015 No.7384284 >>7383846 >scientists actually believe Lrn2science, fgt

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:21:36 2015 No.7384286 >>7384280 >You know what I fucking mean Yes, you mean "I don't know what I fucking mean".

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:25:12 2015 No.7384290

>>7384280

Still, we have a widely extant group of creatures which are direct descendants of theropods. Theropods are as distant from other reptiles as we are to permian sinapsids, I know which is an easier thing to believe, which is even supported by fossil evidence. Yet for a long time the accepted models were laughably wrong and that's with extant relatives. So like I implied earlier, imagine a scenario where there were no extant related species.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:29:10 2015 No.7384294 >>7384290 >>7384286 >>7384280 Reptile is such a vague term in the first place that it really doesn't have much place in a discussion of taxonomy. It's not one of those words scientists usually use when talking about things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:29:31 2015 No.7384295 File: 88 KB, 636x954, pluffers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] !:D

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:33:04 2015 No.7384296 >>7384294 >You still don't know what you fucking mean

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:35:09 2015 No.7384297 To a cephalopod we'd all look like fucking weird fish. To an ayylmao we'd look like fucked up worms.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 05:51:02 2015 No.7384313
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>>7384257
Well, the scales in their feet are technically just stunted feathers. Basal birds and relatives are known to have had feathered feet, and some modern birds have re-developed such trait via natural and artificial selection.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:05:27 2015 No.7384324 >>7384294 You stupid fucking cunt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:09:36 2015 No.7384327 >>7384324 Y R U so mad tho'

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:16:28 2015 No.7384339 >>7383892 Underrated Post

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 06:53:45 2015 No.7384366 File: 453 KB, 250x198, eye_rolls.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384248 >on /sci/ >Says evolution is a steaming pile of horseshit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:17:21 2015 No.7384389 File: 106 KB, 788x500, homer-computer-woohoo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384327 >woo look at me I'm posting gut feeling opinions in lieu of reasoning skills and education

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:35:24 2015 No.7384414 >>7383846 test

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 07:44:12 2015 No.7384425 >>7383846 scientists dont 'believe', they have ideas. only religious people and uneducated people 'believe' in things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 08:20:31 2015 No.7384450 >believe Real scientists doesn't believe in anything, they only hold convictions

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:31:23 2015 No.7384600 File: 1.78 MB, 838x1080, texan_mama_by_keesey-d5wczog.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] #dealwithit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:36:04 2015 No.7384606 What about the species that were wiped out that didn't produce fossils? I bet there were weird as fuck animals that will never be seen because they are invertebrates that have cartilage. Imagine some of them even looking like aliums.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:40:06 2015 No.7384610 >>7384254 That is wrong. Look at females.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:43:45 2015 No.7384614 >>7384425 >>7384450 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:46:27 2015 No.7384616 >>7384610 You stupid, stupid person.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:46:34 2015 No.7384617

>>7384248
Since I was a very young child I've felt humans were not coherent beings that arose naturally, it wasn't just that we were novel relative to all else, or an invasive species where I grew up, there just seemed to be something fundamentally strange about us.

Whether that's true or not, if we were tampered with or did undergo one rapid change due to circumstances or environmental aspects that we've not discovered again, I've continued to think about. It's possible it was adaptation to other environments and the evolution of language and cultural ideas that spurred most of what we are. Loss of the ability to synthesize neu5gc is also of interest, because new world apes (and how did they get there) seem to display the same trait, possibly developed independently. Then there's the aspect of mosaic evolution as far as the brain, seems we more or less had as many neurons as could be readily crammed into the existing framework, engineered in. All seems so contrived, and then there's our behavior.

It's foolish to over rely on trying to work backwards and fill in evidence an existing conclusion, but I'm not much for linear thought. An awareness of the nature of it has to do. I might get into anthropology.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:54:05 2015 No.7384622

>>7384617
>Loss of the ability to synthesize neu5gc is also of interest, because new world apes (and how did they get there) seem to display the same trait

That's mutation for you. Humans cannot synthesize vitamin C either and have a multitude of evolutionary baggage. But I guess if you cannot deduce from gut-feeling then it must all be magic right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:56:58 2015 No.7384624 >>7384622 Actually what he is implying is aliens.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 10:58:40 2015 No.7384628

>>7384622
>That's mutation for you.
That's indication we might have a common ancestor that had an intrinsic pre-disposition towards this sort of mutation being viable (other mammals often become sickly and have dysfunctional immune systems). It also brings up ideas about convergent evolution, if these apes truly developed it independently, maybe surviving malaria wasn't all there was to it.

>But I guess if you cannot deduce from gut-feeling then it must all be magic right?
I addressed this implicitly. Keep your feels to yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:00:13 2015 No.7384631 >>7384616 Not him but it's a joke, that's pretty obvious enough.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:01:35 2015 No.7384633

>>7384624
Possibly aliens. Tampered with for fun, or for a purpose, who knows. Possibly some set of natural circumstances that have since disappeared, maybe another species, maybe ecological affordance, etc.

Possibly something supernatural beyond our present understanding. Something able to interact with matter, acting as some sort of bridge between things ordinarily unconnected. That's significantly less likely, but interesting on its own.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:06:10 2015 No.7384636

>>7384624
>>7384633
Wouldn't the same be supposedly true for aliens them-self too? Unless he means aliens from the future, if time travel is even possible. How could the human race create itself though, it's like asking the same question about god? I feel that it must be the unique functions of matter itself that has developed into our massive intelligence. But I infer that he means why we evolved so fast while most other species are vastly inferior. And it also poses the question of why alien species haven't evolved as fast as us or do not yet have the technology of long-distance radio communication, meaning that we are somehow unique because of that. And how must a language form over a process as natural as how cultures form?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:06:17 2015 No.7384637 >>7384633 There is evidence that humans got into an evolutionary arms race with humans, causing strong selection pressure on being able to outsmart other humans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:08:09 2015 No.7384640 >>7384617 >dinosaur discussion >dumb cunt comes out with their brainfart theory about evolution

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:10:18 2015 No.7384641 Considering birds are avian therapoda I guess we should look to them first before we look to Juressic park

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:14:31 2015 No.7384642 >>7384640 What's with people and evolution nowadays? Are you guys becoming Jewish or something?

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:16:08 2015 No.7384645

>>7384636
>Wouldn't the same be supposedly true for aliens them-self too?
Possibly, but not necessarily.

>But I infer that he means why we evolved so fast while most other species are vastly inferior.
The speed of our evolution makes sense. Africa always has been, and still is, where we ultimately fit in. The predator and prey interactions, and the type of intelligence species display there, is very similar to our own. And it's one of the few places on Earth where even heavily armed and knowledgeable, your environment still poses a massive threat to survival. I once thought it was curiosity that drove us to branch out, "if I just keep walking where will I end up, and does it ever end". Maybe that's not quite the entire story. Maybe some of us just got smart enough to run off and search for somewhere less vicious, and actually survived and made it work.

I wouldn't so much call other species inferior though. What's curious about us is our drives, and our type of intelligence. We have a lot of holes and blind spots, and we're biased towards certain behaviors that don't seem necessarily advantageous, even for a small and technologically devoid group. But that could be a function of anachronistic reinterpretation based on limited knowledge.

>or do not yet have the technology of long-distance radio communication
They might not be close enough, perhaps they're as young as we are. Maybe they don't care or are smart enough to avoid drawing attention.

>And how must a language form over a process as natural as how cultures form?
Language and logic could be said to be two sides of the same coin, but I don't believe they're intertwined in such an absolute sense. Language also doesn't necessarily need to be spoken, which goes back to Africa, and body language. They seemingly speak the same language we do much more closely than other species.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 11:18:13 2015 No.7384646

>>7384637
Which makes sense on a macro level, but some of the underlying mechanics that brought this about are curious.

Just to clarify, I'm not saying it has to be aliens or anything extraordinary. It's just as sensible to describe our nature and our past through conventional means.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:09:11 2015 No.7384722

>>7384646

>macro

Look man, just because you don't understand something doesn't make it a big mystery to the rest of us. There's nothing particularly special about humans besides intelligence. Consider the theropods and their avian ancestors as discussed in this thread. They have eyesight and cardiovascular systems which make ours look absolutely retarded, plus birds can fly. Birds have a bizarre magnetic sense and who knows what else; their view of the world makes our slow, flat existence seem totally bland.

Whereas humans are loaded with shitty mutation baggage, are slow and weak and there is evidence that mitochondrial mutation is what ultimately drove the stronger, smarter Neanderthal out of the game. About all humans can do is smart shit and jog efficiently.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:19:13 2015 No.7384737

>>7384722
You're speaking my own opinions as though they're novel. Stop that, and we can actually connect.

Consider this for a moment, what actually is "intelligence"? It can't exist on its own or in a void, you must have something to be intelligent relative to. The nature of our intelligence and how our faculties work is what allowed us to become the foolish destroyer we have, and be so damn good at it. This split mindedness is novel, and there is a good deal in our history that isn't satisfactorily explained. Things that are ambiguous about this whole planet.

Yes, we're foolish, myopic, prone to self imposed delusions of grandeur, and very poor at understanding anything outside of our own frame of familiarity. Most of us, by default, are terrible at even admitting we don't understand something. That doesn't even have any relevance to what I've said so far and I don't know why you're dragging it in. It's boring, we're fucked up, and I don't even want to talk about it from that angle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:40:39 2015 No.7384846 >>7384737 Wow man heavy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 13:47:14 2015 No.7384851 >>7384846 Can't tell if mocking or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:10:20 2015 No.7384882 >This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJzqWPWHnLs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:16:07 2015 No.7384889 >>7384389 >>7384296 Neither of those are even me holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 15:47:45 2015 No.7385014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aty2JSGEgbI This is the coolest thing ever

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 19:57:30 2015 No.7385309 File: 83 KB, 896x878, 008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post more dinosaurs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 23:08:10 2015 No.7385553 File: 127 KB, 972x822, velociraptor_baby_mobbed_by_pretty_butterflies_by_psithyrus-d7f95eg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 23:11:38 2015 No.7385559 File: 358 KB, 1093x1400, Jurassic-Park.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whoever did the art for Jurassic Park is GOAT Brachiosaurus is best sauropod

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 23:15:20 2015 No.7385567 >>7384600 I never even liked the Dimetrodon. Not even when I was a kid and thought it was a dinosaur.

Anonymous Fri Jul 10 23:50:27 2015 No.7385644
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>>7385567

Yeah well I think dinosaurs overrated retard birds and that our sinapsid bretheren doesn't get enough love. It took the biggest extinction event ever to eradicate the sinapsid mammals who dominated the Permian. If it weren't for that disaster mammals would have remained the dominant megafauna.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 00:27:32 2015 No.7385716 File: 22 KB, 212x288, t-rex.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Related: http://www.besse.at/sms/evolutn.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 00:33:02 2015 No.7385720 >>7385553 Who says feathered Velociraptors can't be cute http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ7SQHH4Xoo Imagine these little guys with little arms and teeth and waving their tails around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:02:40 2015 No.7385748 >>7385720 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4mW-9F-mEg :3

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:12:23 2015 No.7385761
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>>7384253

Yet our ancestral therapsids are often reconstructed similarly. Therapsids are to us mammals as theropods are to birds; probably a whole lot more like mammals than lizards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 01:43:43 2015 No.7385796 >>7385716 Why is that lizard hang gliding?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:18:12 2015 No.7385844 File: 3.99 MB, 2140x2236, jurassic_world__tyrannosaurus_rex_v4_by_sonichedgehog2-d8xsesy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOLY CRETACEOUS BATMAN IT'S A T-REX

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:30:10 2015 No.7385862 >>7385796 Follow the link.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:33:27 2015 No.7385865 File: 2.71 MB, 570x321, horneddinosaur.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could look at this all day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:36:01 2015 No.7385869 File: 148 KB, 700x321, Walking_Velociraptor.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:37:06 2015 No.7385870 File: 123 KB, 825x593, bald eagle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7383846 The only ones alive today are like this.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:43:56 2015 No.7385877

I think secretary birds are pretty interesting to watch. They way they use their feet and talons could be indicative of how some theropods hunted. And the way that wings are incorporated for maneuvoeuring and stability while the legs do their business is fascinating, possibly indicative of an early step in avian flight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 02:45:26 2015 No.7385879 >>7385877 Vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nA6-tAhr-E

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:01:01 2015 No.7385896
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>>7385877
Imagine a Velociraptor or Troodon hunting mice and stomping/stabbing little mice and shit. Or stabbing at the neck of other dinosaurs like the Protoceratops. That'd be a brutal sight to behold.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:09:43 2015 No.7385909

>>7385896

Watching how raptors like eagles kill shows the incredible strength they have in those talons. They just smash so hard the prey is fucked immediately, then they start on the dismemberment. It would have been interesting to see the so-called terrorbirds in operation too. Different groups were extant for most of the Cenozoic so they must have been effective hunters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:36:49 2015 No.7385927 File: 9 KB, 250x150, 250px-Wadiasaurus1DB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7385644

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:37:51 2015 No.7385928 File: 452 KB, 1778x622, archeopteryx_vs__confuciusornis_by_dartheldarious-d5215lf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I fucking love Dinosaurs

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:47:09 2015 No.7385937
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Many birds are intelligent and curious creatures, anyone who has had a pet budgie could attest to that. I think dinosaurs would have been far more awesome than we have ever imagined them to be and also kawaii.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:50:45 2015 No.7385944 >>7384737 So many words used to say nothing at all.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:58:17 2015 No.7385952
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>>7384253
>implying macroevolution is not just lots of microevolution
>implying any real biologist actually makes the distinction between the two
>not providing any evidence against evolution

Also,
>all the evidence disproves it
toppest of keks

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Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:01:12 2015 No.7385955

>>7384324
>>7384296
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptile

>the validity of the class is not universally supported in scientific circles
>in practice, it remains in use by some biologists and more laymen, especially in mass media.

It's pretty much a popsci term.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:04:02 2015 No.7385957 >>7385955 Reptile is an archaic paraphyletic term, used to group fairly distantly related creatures such as diapsids and anapsids through some arbitrary demarcation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:07:04 2015 No.7385960 File: 463 KB, 581x332, get-thee-back.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384248

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:07:58 2015 No.7385961 >>7385014 >t-rex moonwalk.mp4

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 04:09:04 2015 No.7385963 File: 26 KB, 560x458, it's nothing at all.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384737

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 05:14:06 2015 No.7387697 File: 31 KB, 500x501, chicky.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you think theropods nested their young like birds? Or do you think that they just shit some eggs and fucked off leaving them to the swarming nocturnal mammals?

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 05:51:15 2015 No.7387724 >>7384290 >tfw due to that we evolved from nocturnal animals and despite re-evolving convergent colour sight, still have shitty gimp eyes compared to our ancestral sinapsids and every diapsid

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 06:14:09 2015 No.7387739 File: 155 KB, 1263x627, no, artists aren't smarter than anatomists.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384170 >>7384141 That book is full of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 06:46:40 2015 No.7387765 >>7387739 I've seen earnest reconstructions which are a lot worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 07:11:17 2015 No.7387791 >>7387702 From the thumbnail, I honestly thought it was a pair of cock and balls, but in fact it was just a pair of cock heads.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 07:35:56 2015 No.7387814 >>7384248 Oh look. Another butthurt christfag

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:16:05 2015 No.7387995 File: 204 KB, 800x1020, dinosaurs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anyone remember these?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:22:31 2015 No.7388005 >>7385937 >Budgies >intelligent sure

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:22:57 2015 No.7388007 File: 78 KB, 500x375, 867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ankylosaurus is a popular dinosaur and no one knows why.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:30:03 2015 No.7388021 >>7384141 More pics like this please.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:36:51 2015 No.7388033 >>7384248 back to >>>/pol/ retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:37:10 2015 No.7388034 >>7384141 There's one of a cat that looks nothing like a cat at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:39:16 2015 No.7388039 >>7388007 Bommyknocker tail

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:39:20 2015 No.7388040 did sauropods have feathers? that'd look fucking weird

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:42:36 2015 No.7388045 >>7384254 palms, soles?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 10:51:04 2015 No.7388061 File: 49 KB, 500x533, raXhL1T.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://imgur.com/a/BEz4r

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:16:10 2015 No.7388092 >>7388045 What's your point? What other primates have hairy palms besides 4chan neets?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:18:28 2015 No.7388095 >>7388040 As far as fossils are concerned sauropods weren't feathered, from skin fossils through to fossilized young in the egg. So that rules out all the non theropod sauriscians and definitely the ornithiscians.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:19:36 2015 No.7388096 >>7388005 What are you implying? My budgies figured out how to open their cages and a whole lot of other stuff that mice couldn't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:26:36 2015 No.7388107 >>7388061 These are great, excellent comment on accuracy of reconstruction from fossil.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:44:06 2015 No.7388125

Older fellow here. I've been following this interesting thread and thought you younger chaps may be interested in my anecdote. When I was a child growing up in the 70s I was fascinated by dinosaurs and other extinct creatures and had an extensive bookshelf with now-defunct reconstructions. You can see many examples if you google "love in the time of chasmosaurs".

Anyway I remember a couple of those books dared to imply that birds were descended from dinosaurs which at the time was still very controversial. I guess the turning point was when China opened up to the West and started producing an incredible range of fossils, many of which I was fortunate enough to catch when they were touring the world in 2002.

Combine this with the groundbreaking "Wonderful Life" overview of the Burgess Shale specimens in the 90s and subsequent description worldwide of many cambrian fossils and it's interesting that in my life, palaeontology has radically shifted.

Anyway my anecdote is that when home computers became available my interest switched there, but after I'd committed to my career in the 90s is when palaeontology really started to gain some wind. Meanwhile computing is just a fucking chore now and the electronics engineering that I studied is a horse's ass.

Anyway my point is science and technology fields can shift radically, so study that which fascinates you most of all and fuck the future. You may redefine the field anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:46:25 2015 No.7388129 >>7388125 Sorry about the anyways, onion on my belt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:53:55 2015 No.7388135 >>7384617 >>7384248 What the hell are you talking about? I don't know what this is, but it's definitely not science.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 11:58:36 2015 No.7388143 >>7385944 "I see nothing, therefore, there is nothing to see." Quite the scientist, aren'tcha.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 19:37:38 2015 No.7388962 File: 539 KB, 1200x780, DB_Lead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7388125 thanks man

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 19:40:02 2015 No.7388965 >>7383846 I didn't think it was possible to be conservative in science

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 19:59:58 2015 No.7389008 >>7385644 I was in an /an/ thread and they were posting prehistoric creatures and one of them looked like a capybara. So does this. What is up with the capybara.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 21:18:08 2015 No.7389150

>>7384617
Science doesn't give a single figgy fuck what you "feel". Science is about evidence, and every single piece of evidence, from every feild of biology, paleontology, genetics, population genetics, comparative morphology, geology, anthropology, botany, zoology... etc. etc. All prove beyond the shadow of a rational doubt that evolution is real, evolution happened, and humans, like every other organism on this planet, are a product of it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 22:19:00 2015 No.7389276
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If scientists are able to turn on the genes in a bird that make up the dinosaur-like teeth, arms, tail, feet, snout etc. all of the things that make up a Coelosaurian dinosaur, would it be that much easier to sequence the genome of a Coelosaurian Dinosaur like the Velociraptor or Troodon once all the genes in a dino-bird are expressed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 22:31:10 2015 No.7389297 >>7389276 There is no genome to sequence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 22:36:06 2015 No.7389311 >>7389297 Then how come there are people going around saying that scientists could in theory sequence the genome of dinosaurs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 22:41:35 2015 No.7389331 >>7389311 >popsci

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 00:57:18 2015 No.7389578 >>7383846 fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 03:42:10 2015 No.7389792 File: 441 KB, 1318x776, oviraptor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh shit it's Oviraptor! Hide your eggs!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 03:48:00 2015 No.7389802 >>7388007 Because nigga looks like a fucking pokemon, that's why.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 04:07:23 2015 No.7389825 File: 279 KB, 466x379, 1352781024308.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384248 >micro evolution

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 04:12:15 2015 No.7389831 File: 2.77 MB, 720x358, ByeByeBirdie.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] With love, /tv/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 05:55:08 2015 No.7389894 File: 75 KB, 464x447, later homo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7384642

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 07:01:04 2015 No.7389946 File: 413 KB, 768x576, fig3-north.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7383892

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