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Anonymous Mon Jun 29 21:51:50 2015 No.7363078 [Reply] [Original]

My friend is making liquor on medical spitrytuose that contains 0,5% chlorhexidine. He and his friends drinks it on parties and often propose it to me, but im affraid of sideeffects. He told that he made puryfing process with EDTA, olso he linked me this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19026886
>The combination of chlorhexidine and EDTA produces a white precipitate. The aim of this study was to determine if the precipitate involves the chemical degradation of chlorhexidine. The precipitate was produced and redissolved in a known amount of dilute trifluoroacetic acid. The amount of chlorhexidine and EDTA present in the dissolved precipitate was determined by reverse-phase high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) with ultraviolet detection at 288 nm. More than 90% of the precipitate's mass was found to be EDTA or chlorhexidine. The remainder is suspected to be water, gluconate, and sodium. Parachloroaniline, a potentially carcinogenic decomposition product of chlorhexidine, was not detected in the precipitate (the limit of detection was 1%). The molar ratio of chlorhexidine to EDTA in the precipitate was about 1.6 to 1. Based on the results, chlorhexidine forms a salt with EDTA rather than undergoing a chemical reaction.
what do you think /sci/nones, ist that safe?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 00:59:26 2015 No.7363436 File: 57 KB, 600x434, żabka pijąca.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not sure if alcoholic solution of chlorexidine will react in the same way with EDTA as in pure form olso i think that drinking any alcohol often is a bad idea

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 02:48:45 2015 No.7363645 >>7363078 >0,5% chlorhexidine ... is fucking mouthwash, why??

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 02:53:43 2015 No.7363658 >>7363078 It's almost certainly harmless. The better question is why would you WANT to drink it? It's not that hard to get tasty alcohol, even if you are underage.

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Anonymous Tue Jun 30 05:15:26 2015 No.7363846

>>7363658
>underage
I'm a student and my friend is on first year of stomatology
I guess that only reason is that, the medical spiritouse from medical store is 5x cheaper than branded alcohol with taxes
>It's almost certainly harmless
I readed that chlorexidine can kill intestinal flora, but this liquor is made from spiritouse that was mixed with EDTA and filtred
I'm still not sure if that process is fully effective and safety

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 17:56:53 2015 No.7364963 File: 1.24 MB, 440x248, bump femka.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 19:22:55 2015 No.7365103 >>7363846 You should ask on some chemistry forum, /sci/ is only for asking for help in homework

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 20:25:56 2015 No.7365228 why the fuck would you want to drink an antibiotic and a chelating agent it won't fuck you up, i'ts just pointless

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 30 21:09:31 2015 No.7365314 >>7365228 chelating agent chelates chlorhexidine and then is filtred, so you drink only pure alcohol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 00:08:57 2015 No.7365726 >>7365314 In theory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 01:16:45 2015 No.7365923 >>7365314 Chelating agents don't work that way, they only chelate metal ions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 01:43:28 2015 No.7365949 >>7363846 drinking edta can be bad for you too

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 07:56:07 2015 No.7366365 File: 11 KB, 213x313, mutant12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >le everything I do must be scientific meme Call your friend a fedora and get some beer you fucking mong

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 09:23:25 2015 No.7366467 File: 29 KB, 490x333, projektuje.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7366365 better take a nap anone

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 1 09:24:25 2015 No.7366468 >>7365923 so how you describe this experiment? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19026886

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 02:58:49 2015 No.7368177 >>7366468 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 04:52:59 2015 No.7368295 >>7368177 It literally said in the abstract, it forms a salt. I don't know what the solubility product of that salt is but it might not be enough to ensure quantitative precipitation of chlorhexidine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 14:08:48 2015 No.7368934 chemistry anone wher are you when we need you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 02:55:25 2015 No.7370177 File: 11 KB, 240x212, chlorogówno.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 06:54:31 2015 No.7370402 File: 2.60 MB, 250x250, jachimek słabo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >3 days on /sci/ >still not solved

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:08:54 2015 No.7372343 last bump

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Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:06:10 2015 No.7372468

don't know, maybe if you would add 5g of edta to 1L of this medical alcohol and then filter out powder, put it on the scale, so if that would give you 5g + ~5g(weight of chlorexdidine in 1L of medical spiritouse) then it is propably good way, but still we cannot be sure if edta + alcoholic solution of chlorhexidine makes some dangerous thing like chloraline

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:40:03 2015 No.7373964 I don't know if is that safe or not, but I would never drink it