Ceres & its Bright Spots

[Anonymous No.7362242]

NASA released a new, low exposure image of the bright spots today at the Dawn photojournal.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA19584

[Anonymous No.7362247]

False color image, focused on the bright spots.

[Anonymous No.7362295]

That is quite mysterious. Does this photo have the sunlight extracted from it,or is this a photo without sunlight hitting the dwarf planet?

[Anonymous No.7362300]

>>7362295
There is sunlight on it, that's the only way we're able to see a difference between the edge and the background space. The exposure time is just much lower so less light can reach the camera.

[Anonymous No.7362332]

Sorry if this is thread jacking, but this thread is forced to go into the speculative direction anyway.

I have a question that should have an objective answer to it. If intelligent alien life was somehow discovered, is there a protocol that they'd have to follow which required them to disclose or suppress the information? I'm not saying this has happened, but when and if it does happen, how would it be dealt with?

I suppose there are variables like how intelligent they are, whether they're benevolent entities or not, which nation made the discovery, etc. Have our governments reached a consensus on how this would be handled?

[Anonymous No.7362432]

www.google.com/search?q=protocol+alien+encounter

[Anonymous No.7362456]

"Cereal" is derived from "Ceres".

The bright spots are the free gift in the box

[Anonymous No.7362472]

>>7362332
> implying any government would officially disclose evidence of alien life

[Anonymous No.7362473]

>>7362300
To a human observer it would look similar to the moon if everything had the brightness of the mare except for a few bright spots?

[Anonymous No.7362480]

>>7362332
>I suppose there are variables like how intelligent they are, whether they're benevolent entities or not, which nation made the discovery, etc. Have our governments reached a consensus on how this would be handled?
It's probably been thought of and they're probably just going to hide it if possible. There's way too much risk if people discover something like this without knowing more about the aliens. If they're intelligent, we definitely don't want to piss them off so we're going to play it as safe as possible.

[Anonymous No.7362514]

>>7362472
>> implying any government would officially disclose evidence of alien life

The revelation would probably happen in stages, perhaps over the course of a few decades or centuries. The general population would probably go into panic-mode if this was dished out in one serving.

[Anonymous No.7362630]

looks like a meteorological event

[Anonymous No.7362644]

>>7362472
>implying some astrophysicists are going to waive their Nobel prize because of some politics

[Anonymous No.7362663]

>>7362514
>The general population would probably go into panic-mode if this was dished out in one serving.

Why do people always say this? Would YOU "go into panic mode?" Why?

There is no good reason it would be kept secret longer than the time it takes to be really sure it's true (and that's just to avoid massive embarrassment).

[Anonymous No.7362671]

>>7362473
If we saw Ceres being hit by the sun head on, it would look the moon yes. Although the moon also gains some brightness from "earthshine". So when it's not being hit head on from the sun Ceres would actually look darker than a new moon; even the bright spots would appear dark.

It would look something like pic related. Notice how the bright spots go out when they leave the sunlight, indicating it's all reflected and none of it is produced artificially.

[Anonymous No.7362675]

>>7362663
Governments would be more worried about an alien being beheaded by muslim scumbags, starting an interstellar war.

[Anonymous No.7362702]

>>7362663

I don't think panic would ensue solely due to our awareness of aliens, but of what they have to offer. We can barely keep up with all of the technology being thrown at us already, imagine the the techno-shock that would result if we knew what they were capable of.

[Anonymous No.7362738]

>>7362702

So you would panic?

[Anonymous No.7362768]

>>7362738

There would be an adjustment phase, then maybe start a company where people could splice their DNA with alien DNA, or get one of those teledildonic rigs set up where they could have intercourse with an alien hologram.

[Anonymous No.7362771]

Somewhere in the White House, there most be a Red book that literally says: "Nuke codes, just in case."

[Anonymous No.7362874]

>>7362663
What do you consider a "panic"?
For sure at the start there will be a huge blowing up of the usual "they're there they're watching us", conspiracy theories, UFO sightings, fear of being exterminated by aliens and other stuff we've already seen
I imagine this is what people mean by panic, not citizens burning and looting cities just because it's been confirmed aliens are real.
That happens only when a white man shoots a black guy in self defense.

[Anonymous No.7362917]

>>7362671
Did anyone else notice the smiley face at the very end?

[Anonymous No.7362919]

>aliens advanced enough to survive on a shitty place like Ceres
>they only live in one crater
>they don't have spaceflight
>no radio communications

[Anonymous No.7362929]

>>7362919
>>aliens advanced enough to survive on a shitty place like Ceres
They could be explorers, and they could be fucked right now
>>they only live in one crater
Maybe they're small
>>they don't have spaceflight
How do you know
>>no radio communications
Maybe their equipment was fucked up

I'm not saying it's definitely aliens, but you can't rule it out like that. Though, it probably isn't aliens.

[Anonymous No.7362978]

>>7362917
Yes! I did too

[Anonymous No.7364116]

>>7362242

That's probably more how it would look to the naked eye.

[Anonymous No.7364119]

>>7362663

The vast majority of humanity is superstitious and ignorant.

[Anonymous No.7364122]

>>7362771

I posit that nukes would be as threatening to an interstellar civilization as a fuzzy-wuzzy waving his spear would be to the US naval fleet.

[Anonymous No.7364177]

>>7364116
You're eyes would still adapt to the darkness assuming you're blocked from direct sunlight and artificial illumination.

[Anonymous No.7364179]

This "panic" thing is exxagerated, what can happen is only a bunch of morons with facebook profile image about that.

[Anonymous No.7364181]

>>7364177

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.7364205]

>>7362768
>aleins
>dna

[Anonymous No.7364219]

>>7362332
The problem is if intelligent life was the discovered, it's like that a large team of scientists was involved, making it hard to effectively suppress the information.

[Anonymous No.7364234]

>>7364219

Nothing would need to be supressed. The team would be "told" what the observation is and they'd say it or else. Anyone who didn't play ball would be discredited like they all are, the papers would all print that it was swamp gas and everyone would go about their business like usual.

[Anonymous No.7364653]

>>7362919
These assumptions are based on what?

To me it seems more logical to assume that if the spot was ayy lmao, that they didn't evolve there but rather it was a colony of some kind, like a way station, mining facilities, or even just a place for them to conduct their own exploratory science.

[Anonymous No.7364668]

New Ceres pic just dropped btw

(And as always, hit up http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images for the full-res .tif )

[Anonymous No.7364684]

>>7362242
The tif is full of jpeg-like compression artifacts.

[Anonymous No.7364688]

I seriously have a series of sincere Ceres questions...

...actually, just kidding it's only one:

NASA has been saying for months that the spots are "probably" ice (or "maybe" salts)....

What data supports these statements?

[Anonymous No.7364690]

>>7362242
Bright Spots Similar To Ceres Observed On Pluto.

[Anonymous No.7364695]

>>7364690

[Anonymous No.7364696]

Morph between the two under-exposed bright spots shots. It rather definitively shows that the center bright spot is inside of a crater.

[Anonymous No.7364704]

>>7364684
They're also in 8x8 macroblocks. Why is a jpeg, or something that underwent jpeg-like compression for transmission (even if that made sense), being distributed as lossless?

Anything anything interesting happens to do with space or other planets, there always has to be something strange about it and reported results.

[Anonymous No.7364707]

>>7364696
Crater as in a caldera?

[Anonymous No.7364713]

>>7364696
Geysir erupting ice and memes confirmed

[Anonymous No.7364724]

>>7364695
"A mysterious bright spot has been spotted on the dwarf planet Pluto by the New Horizon’s spacecraft as it prepares for its flyby of the distant world later this month.

The large white area appeared close to the dwarf planet’s north pole as the space probe was 14.2 million miles (22.9 million km) from Pluto."

[Anonymous No.7364733]

>>7364707
Crater as in hole in the ground.

[Anonymous No.7364783]

>>7364707
flat circular depression

[Anonymous No.7364793]

New update to the Dawn mission blog.

http://dawnblog.jpl.nasa.gov/2015/06/29/dawn-journal-june-29/

[Anonymous No.7364822]

A couple of items of interest from the blog post:

>How can you not be mesmerized by the luminous allure of the famous bright spots? They are not, in fact, a source of light, but for a reason that remains elusive, the ground there reflects much more sunlight than elsewhere.

>Although Dawn already has revealed far, far more about Ceres in the last six months than had been seen in the preceding two centuries of telescopic studies, the explorer is not ready to rest on its laurels. It is now preparing to undertake another complex spiral descent, using its sophisticated ion propulsion system to maneuver to a circular orbit three times as close to the dwarf planet as it is now. It will take five weeks to perform the intricate choreography needed to reach the third mapping altitude, starting tomorrow night.

[Anonymous No.7366420]

>>7364783
>>7364733
is it consistent with water ice being exposed by an impact and slowly sublimating as it's warmed by the sun?

[Anonymous No.7366637]

>>7366420

It's jism. The crater is a fuckhole.

[Anonymous No.7367991]

It feels as though it is basically impossible to get a clear view of the source of the bright spots without essentially landing on Ceres. Although this
>>7364822
make me optimistic.

[Anonymous No.7368091]

>>7366420
I honestly have no idea. It doesn't seem very compelling, but I'm neither a terrestrial nor astro-geologist.

[Anonymous No.7368103]

It says here Dawn is equipped with a spectrometer, how come they still can't figure out the material of those spots?

[Anonymous No.7368109]

>>7368103
Because they haven't won't use the spectrometer until they're closer. The neutron detector will be used even later.

[Anonymous No.7368118]

>>7368103

It doesn't have enough resolution to bother with until it's closer.

[Anonymous No.7368669]

>>7364793
>>7364822
I must say I'm an old fag boomer. If you ask me what a boomer is I'd say it's cause of all the sonic booms I heard as a kid with the Cold War and space race. I was glued to the screen for the moon shots and landings. But nothing in my life is more exciting(except kids) than the fucking lights on Ceres. Seeing the lights of Earth in the 60's was cool, but seeing alien lights on Ceres in 2015 is off the scale.

[Anonymous No.7368711]

This is my problem with the ice theory, or any theory that it is reflecting light.

[Anonymous No.7368725]

>>7368711
I didn't know Ceres was a perfect sphere, anon.

[Anonymous No.7368732]

>>7368711
The real terminator is where the darkness begins. How would we see anything past that line at all if it isn't reflected light? You drew your line in the wrong place.

[Anonymous No.7368743]

>>7368732
>How would we see anything past that line at all if it isn't reflected light?
Because the surface isn't flat. The line has to represent an average. So you see the sides of craters, etc, that are turned toward the light source.

The "bright spot," however, is clearly not turned toward the sun. It is sitting in the bottom of a crater. This can be seen in multiple images. And, if it weren't, it would be possible to find some images where the bright spot becomes a dark spot because it's facing away from the sun, relative to all the other surfaces around it.

[Anonymous No.7368773]

>>7368711

That line is clearly drawn in the wrong place, anon. And the bright spots are hills. Which are as bright as the amount of light shining on them.

[Anonymous No.7368813]

>>7368773
This.
As you said the surface is not flat, so why would you assume the bottom of a crater is? Crater impacts happen similarly to pic related. Protip: in high speed impacts nothing is treated as a solid.

[Anonymous No.7368828]

>>7368813
>dat framerate

[Anonymous No.7368833]

>>7368828
It's the best thing I could find without posting a youtube video. Try looking up slow motion water drop without getting a million results of this

[Anonymous No.7369715]

>>7362242
This image was posted today. I'm in the "Other" category with regard to the lights. When you start studying this image, you start to notice bright pixels and also some black one. I'm really hoping an ancient civilization left the lights on for us. I'm also not sure what to think if all pans out to be true. Maybe my grandpa from several thousand years ago will be there.

[Anonymous No.7369762]

>>7368732

Yes move the goalposts.

[Anonymous No.7369808]

>>7368725
whats that gotta do with the bright spots ?

>>7368773
> drawn in the wrong place
then why aren't there any other brighter spots before the light gradient ?

[Anonymous No.7369923]

>>7368711
Don't forget: Angle of reflection. Even with it staying luminous while in past the shadow line, a reflection couldn't shine at the same brightness through the degree of rotation that was captured.

[Anonymous No.7369949]

>>7369808
>then why aren't there any other brighter spots before the light gradient
There are. I don't think you understand, Ceres has no atmosphere, so if we see light at all that means its directly in line with the Sun. If not it will be 100% darkness. Theres no "middle ground" where light is partially scattered, it is either in the sun or not. If it's past the terminator, we should not be able to see it. pic related is what it should really look like, please forgive me for my shitty paint skills.

[Anonymous No.7370007]

>>7368773
>And the bright spots are hills.

Going by the two under-exposed shots of the bright spots, they're not hills. See >>7364696

[Anonymous No.7370084]

>>7370007
maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me, but they look elevated in >>7364696, or at least the big bright spot does.

[Anonymous No.7370106]

>>7362456
>at last, I'm finally going to get my Universal decoder ring

[Anonymous No.7370111]

>>7362675
Oh god this

why does anyone think an intelligent species capable of sustained interstellar flight would want to contact us?

[Anonymous No.7370113]

>>7362917
I see it!!

[Anonymous No.7370124]

>>7370084

In the center spot, watch the Pacman dot in context with the rest of the bright material. Most of the bright material is in an irregular, crescent shaped hole.

[Anonymous No.7370133]

>>7369949
> pulls the line right after the last lit area like thats the actual light falloff
> look guise there is no light after this point.

the real terminator is just in the middle of the red line and blue line. which still doesn't explain why it's so bright. there are craters with even deeper angles that catch the sunlight, but they're not even close to that brightness. And if you look at OPs image, you'll see it's still bright even tough the surface doesn't catch any sunlight.

the only reasonable answer is obviously martians

[Anonymous No.7370157]

>>7362242
is it possible that this bright spot is a solid frozen ice surface, that froze in such a fashion that it has merely adopted some remarkable reflective properties??

We see amazing examples of different frozen mineral examples here on earth all the time.. I think perhaps that this crater has a remarkably reflect mineral deposit that formed under probably interesting circumstances, perhaps the stability or solution of the liquid material after the impact allowed the material to freeze in such a way that it has properties that make it very reflective

Yes, that's probably the most likely answer

[Anonymous No.7370169]

>>7370157
>is it possible that this bright spot is a solid frozen ice surface, that froze in such a fashion that it has merely adopted some remarkable reflective properties??

I can't speak with any authority on the matter, but I don't believe so. If the bright material is water ice, it should be experiencing substantial sublimation, but there's little evidence of it in Dawn's images.

[Anonymous No.7370267]

>>7370113
>http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA19584
Me too!!!!! Was a star and the just start hiper lighting

[Anonymous No.7370281]

>>7362472
>implying you could hide it
real life isn't some shitty movie

[Anonymous No.7370283]

if it is actually emitting light can't you not just hold a spectrograph in its general direction?

[Anonymous No.7370285]

what if it's radioactive, did they check for that?

[Anonymous No.7370288]

>>7370283
Dawn is and has been doing just that, but the data isn't very good until they get closer to Ceres.

>>7370285

Dawn will also be checking that, but the gamma ray and neutron detector is a short range instrument, and won't be of much value until Dawn reaches its final, lowest orbit.

[Anonymous No.7370291]

>>7370124
I think it looks like an irregular, crescent shaped peak. It's just an optical illusion, your eyes are seeing what they want to see. The same concept is happening in pic related. Do you see a small cube sitting in the corner of a room or a large cube missing one of it's corners?

>>7370133
>> pulls the line right after the last lit area like thats the actual light falloff
Why wouldn't it be? Any area that is still lit MUST BE inside the terminator, otherwise they wouldn't be lit.
> there are craters with even deeper angles that catch the sunlight, but they're not even close to that brightness.
I never said it was bright because of the angle. I believe there is a highly reflective mineral deposit, possibly platinum, that formed in the peak in the center of the crater (and also splashed out to the side because of the angle that the asteroid collided).

[Anonymous No.7370748]

>>7370133
>the only reasonable answer is obviously martians

This.

[Anonymous No.7373127]

>>7369949
lol that line
learn spacial reasoning

[Anonymous No.7373133]

>>7370288
>until they get closer to Ceres
WHEN‽

[Anonymous No.7373143]

>>7362247
We will never know what is going on beneath that crater.

[Anonymous No.7373181]

>>7373133
They're currently in a downward spiral. Next stop is HAMO (1,450km) from August to October.

[Anonymous No.7373187]

crystal caves

[Anonymous No.7373310]

>>7373181
HAMO will more than triple the resolution of Ceres, over the most recent Survey orbit, from 410 meters per pixel to 140 meters per pixel.

[Anonymous No.7373314]

>>7373310
Plus spectrography and stereo photography.

[Anonymous No.7373358]

>>7369808
>then why aren't there any other brighter spots before the light gradient ?
Fucking hell, because Ceres is bumpy and asymmetrical. Would a potato have a perfectly circular terminator? No, neither would Ceres.

[Anonymous No.7373376]

>>7373314
>stereo photography
excellent, imagine a perspective view of the bright spot

[Anonymous No.7373413]

>>7362919
they could be exporers and have technology out of our minds (just like relativity before einstein).
they could just instant transmit shit like goku who knows

[Anonymous No.7373420]

>>7373413
>exporers
>our of our minds
>instant transmit
>goku
annnd back to /x/ you go

[Anonymous No.7373441]

>>7373420
im here from reddit

[Anonymous No.7373445]

>>7373127
I was using the curve tool in paint. It's really difficult to get a line exactly where you want it to be. If you wanna fix it for me please I would love to see your attempt

[Anonymous No.7375173]

Best guess for what it is?

[chemfag !Hzum9Tvcag No.7375214]

Has anyone suggested any sort of black body radiation coming from inside a distressed portion of the crater? If the above gif does indeed show that there is a second impression inside the crater.

[Anonymous No.7375222]

>>7375214

Black body wavelengths have probably been looked at, but early near-infrared imagery of the Bright Spots showed effectively zero prominence, hot or cold, at their location.

[Anonymous No.7375239]

>>7362332

I don't think there's any reason to cover up the existence of say, an alien civilizaton on another planet in the Solar System. Be it ruins or a living city, it'd actually be an excellent incentive for the economy, technology, and development. You could use it as an impetus for a new space race.

If it was a situation where the aliens have superior technology and come out to Earth then I don't think the governments could cover it up even if they tried.

[Anonymous No.7375253]

>>7375239

They covered up the Martian fossils when it became clear that many people couldn't deal with the truth of microbial life on Mars.

[Anonymous No.7375258]

>>7375253

No, they didn't.

[Anonymous No.7375336]

>>7375258

Yes they did, which is why everyone believes that the announcement was mistaken or retracted.

[Anonymous No.7375347]

>>7375336
>Yes they did, which is why everyone believes that the announcement was mistaken or retracted.

A: Scientists were mistaken about the nature of their observations and made a retraction in light of the evidence.

B: A powerful central authority didn't like the general public's reaction, and forced the scientists to deny their findings.

B doesn't even make sense. When it's not pointed in their general direction, politicians THRIVE on fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

[Anonymous No.7375353]

>>7375347

Ha you fool. The scientists were certain of their findings which is why the POTUS made the announcement. There was NO RETRACTION by the scientists at any stage yet people believe that they were mistaken. How?

[Anonymous No.7375360]

>>7375353

IIRC all they said was they found some formations which looked similar to formations left by primitive live on Earth.

They never said they were fossilized microbes from Mars.

[Anonymous No.7375362]

>>7375353
Lets make sure we're on the same page. Are we talking about ALH84001?

[Anonymous No.7375363]

>>7375362

Yes.

[Anonymous No.7375365]

>>7375360
It looks like we're talking about ALH84001. Yeah, they found some chain structures that are not easily explained by geochemical explanations, but they are not accepted as incontrovertible proof of past life on Mars at this time. Though the evidence is arguably inconclusive, and the scientists have continued to argue in favor of a biological explanation for the structures, the general public did not take it THAT badly.

[Anonymous No.7375368]

>>7375360

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/clinton.html

[Anonymous No.7375378]

>>7375365
>the general public did not take it THAT badly.

Then why does the general public believe that the announcement was retracted as a mistake? If anything the findings have only strengthened the case for fossils since the announcment.

I'll save you the trouble: the press has implied that it was a mistake. The announcement was very controversial and many people lost their shit over it.

[Anonymous No.7375385]

>>7375378

Because there was no announcement of life in the first place. All they said was they found some things that could possibly maybe be related to life.

And nobody cared.

[Anonymous No.7375389]

>>7375385

Nice revisionism.

[Anonymous No.7375390]

>>7375389

Okay, show me the original announcement.

[Anonymous No.7375400]

>>7375390

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/nasa1.html

>Meteorite Yields Evidence of Primitive Life on Early Mars

>"For two years, we have applied state-of-the-art technology to perform these analyses, and we believe we have found quite reasonable evidence of past life on Mars," Gibson added. "We don't claim that we have conclusively proven it. We are putting this evidence out to the scientific community for other investigators to verify, enhance, attack -- disprove if they can -- as part of the scientific process. Then, within a year or two, we hope to resolve the question one way or the other."

[Anonymous No.7375403]

>>7375378
>Then why does the general public believe that the announcement was retracted as a mistake? If anything the findings have only strengthened the case for fossils since the announcment.

A lot of scientists have also argued against the structures being biological in origin. Past life on Mars has zero significance for 99.999% of people's daily lives; it's not particularly surprising that it quickly fell by the wayside.

>I'll save you the trouble: the press has implied that it was a mistake. The announcement was very controversial and many people lost their shit over it.

I was pretty young at the time, so I don't have a good first hand account of this event. I'm gonna need some help finding citations for a bad public reaction to the announcement, because Google isn't turning up much of anything. It's not a valid source if only /x/ would accept it.

[Anonymous No.7375406]

>>7375400
>We don't claim that we have conclusively proven it

Shooting yourself in the foot there, m8

[Anonymous No.7375417]

>>7375403

I was an adult when that announcement was made, I remember it well. The vast majority of humanity are ignorant and superstitious, this stuff matters. The truth is the announcement was very sure and widespread, with followup announcment by President Clinton and others being paraded across the news and everyone was discussing this. And here we are 20 years on and people believe that the opposite was actually true; that the announcment was a barely noticed mistake that was quickly retracted. Why is that?

[Anonymous No.7375420]

>>7375406

This is science, chump. The fact that you grab that quote out of context speaks volumes of your own worldview and why we are having this discussion in the first place.

[Anonymous No.7375424]

>>7362771
>Somewhere in the White House, there most be a Red book that literally says: "Nuke codes, just in case."
Uh, yeah, it's called the Nuclear Football

A member of the armed forces is handcuffed to a briefcase that contains everything the Pres needs to launch a nuclear strike, and he follows the President everywhere

[Anonymous No.7375431]

>>7370157

I can't speak with any authority on the matter, but I don't believe so. I believe it's a lens. Aliens

[Anonymous No.7375436]

Luminous, chemi-luminous or algae like luminous material.
Thats why it glows a little as sun goes down.8

[Anonymous No.7375437]

It's a 100 million skellingtons popping out.

[Anonymous No.7375441]

>>7375239
implying any government wants to get into a space race?

[Anonymous No.7375443]

In my educated opinion, Ceres is an egg, and a baby sun is about to hatch from it.

[Anonymous No.7375450]

>>7375378
Things I remember happening
>9/11
>NZ wins world cup
>Mandela Died
>Blacks riot in US

Things I don't remember happening:
>Everybody losing their shit about life on mars
>Relativity changing people's daily lives

Things I care about:
>

[Anonymous No.7375458]

>>7375450

Spoonfed.

[Anonymous No.7375459]

>>7375441

It's an excuse to spend money, spy on and dick over your enemies, and stick patriotic flags on shit.

All stuff that'll improve your approval ratings.

[Anonymous No.7375463]

>>7375459
no lack of things to spend money on atm. no lack of spying atm

[Anonymous No.7375475]

>>7375403
>A lot of scientists have also argued against the structures being biological in origin

Where are these research papers? I have not seen any, only people implying the case.

[Anonymous No.7375730]

>>7375450
>implying that relativity didn't make GPS and satellite communication doable so you can download angry birds on your phone while searching for a route to the nearest mental hospital

[Anonymous No.7375732]

>>7362242
Can someone explain this image to me? Does this imply that the bright spot is generating it's own light or is it just highly reflective?

[Anonymous No.7375735]

>>7375732
Nobody knows *spooky music*

[Anonymous No.7375780]

>>7375732
>Can someone explain this image to me? Does this imply that the bright spot is generating it's own light or is it just highly reflective?

The NASA teams say it's highly reflective. The shot was taken in the day time, but the image is under-exposed.

[Anonymous No.7376025]

>>7362472
There are too many people working on the project for any agency to hush up.

there would also be pressure from the international community to release all the info.

[Anonymous No.7376049]

I think it's a wormhole that leads to another solar system orbiting a black hole.

[Anonymous No.7376115]

>>7362917
No.

[Anonymous No.7376142]

>>7375780
> The NASA teams say it's highly reflective
its so reflective that it can bounce the light that doesnt even hit the surface....

[Anonymous No.7376229]

>>7364696
ayy

[Anonymous No.7376267]

>aliens have studied us so much they think ayy lmao are our way of communitacting with them, and they gonna use it when they offically present themselfs

[Anonymous No.7376273]

>>7364696

alien military base

time to panic

[Anonymous No.7376276]

>>7369949

even if some of it still had little light, wouldnt the ice be too far in the ground to recive light and reflect?

[Anonymous No.7376281]

>>7362768
I want to have passionate sexual intercourse with an alien woman.

[Anonymous No.7376282]

>>7362675
>>7370111
>>7362874
/pol/ pls go b2 /x/

[Anonymous No.7376286]

>>7364688
none whatsoever, it's pure speculation and the official terminology used when they are trying to say "it's definitely aliens"

[Anonymous No.7376295]

>>7362514
>panic-mode
Do you honestly expect, what, rioting in the streets? Looting? People jumping off bridges?

Simply because aliens have been confirmed?

Just what kind of model of the human psyche do you have?

[Anonymous No.7376309]

If the news announced alien contactI would get sudden sensation of pure euphoria

[Anonymous No.7376312]

>>7373143
Why?

[Anonymous No.7376326]

>>7368773
Light shining from the side doesn't light both sides of a hill.

[Anonymous No.7376349]

Does anyone else think the government hides the truth from us just to feel powerful?

There is no rational reason to do it, but they think they're supposed to and it gives them a tingle in the loins.

[Anonymous No.7376363]

>>7376349
They do hide stuff from us, but not to "feel powerful".

It's either in an effort to genuinely protect the stability of the nation(s), or a selfish act to maintain power or something, or both.

But not to "feel powerful". That is nonsense.

[Anonymous No.7376379]

>>7376349
Contrary to what psychoanalysts and right-wingers believe, a government is not a person and can not feel at all. Only living beings can feel, e.g. you should feel bad.

[Anonymous No.7376410]

>>7376379
a government is an institution made up of people who feel

[Anonymous No.7376423]

>>7376410
So if half feel bad and half feel happy the government has a split personality, right?

[Anonymous No.7376485]

>>7373376
what is that thing?

[Anonymous No.7378258]

any news?

[Anonymous No.7378281]

>>7378258

/sci/ is slow as fuck

better go to /x/

I bet most people in this thread are from /x/
The real /sci/ people are autistic and only care about math

[Anonymous No.7378286]

>>7378281
Dawn is also slow. We've got to wait a moth until it has reached HAMO.

[Anonymous No.7378646]

>>7362242
Latest Ceres image. This image just confuses me more. Of all the cratering that has gone on over time, why do only a few craters have lights. And then random places where there are other lights. And then the black spots which have to be some kind holes for little or no light to reflect. I'm still in the Other category where the obvious explanation is.

[Anonymous No.7378651]

IT IS THIS.
THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.
FUCKING GREYS.
ON YOUR DOORSTEP. GONNA RAPE YOU WITH THEIR ANDROID ANGUSES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSnU_LKi5vs

[Anonymous No.7378668]

>>7378651

This is /sci/ence board. You and your kind are not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.7378673]

>>7378651
Did someone say ancient aliens?

[Anonymous No.7378706]

Guys...let's admit this. There is no explaination that works for this case. It's emitting some kind of light to appear this way. So unless it's magic ice, it can't be reflections. I'm not saying it's aliens...

i'm not saying it...

but it's aliens.

[Anonymous No.7378711]

>>7378646
I dont think its reflective material under the surface that was exposed by the impacts but the reflective material was in what hit it, ejecta explaining the spread.

[Anonymous No.7378761]

>>7378711
No, cause then the light would be occurring far more frequently, around similar crater impacts which are all over the place.

[Anonymous No.7378769]

>>7378761
he's saying that 1 specific meteor that just so happen to have reflective material managed to hit ceres and the rest of the impacts are of normal meteors.

[Anonymous No.7378783]

>>7378769
If true, Ceres was hit with many such meteors and if such a meteor were common, we would have detected many already.

[Anonymous No.7378787]

>>7362242

[Anonymous No.7378793]

>>7378783

Wat, if true ceres was not hit by many such meteors seeing as we've not detected many.

[Anonymous No.7378800]

>>7378787
Look at all that ice.

[Anonymous No.7378820]

>>7378800
do the spots on ceres actually emit light when on the darkside, or is it just reflected light in the sun?

[Anonymous No.7378821]

>>7364119
True enough, but that same vast majority of humanity would not know (or believe) the facts.

[Anonymous No.7378828]

>>7378820
No, there are frames of video where the bright spots fade in reducing light and go totally dark.

[Anonymous No.7378829]

>>7378793
So the lights didn't come from meteor impacts. The lights come from something else.

[Anonymous No.7378831]

>>7378800
Look how Greenland, the Antarctis or the Sahara are more reflective than the oceans and forests.

[Anonymous No.7378837]

>>7378787
So this confirms the earth is flat

[Anonymous No.7378841]

>>7378829
The possibility of reflective material in an object is not common judging by the lack of other instances, but it doesn't make it impossible or not one of most likely explanations.

[Anonymous No.7378842]

>>7364713
I propose it be named "Geyser Söze" in recognition of its elusive nature.

[Anonymous No.7378861]

It's in the middle of a crater, probably an icy object that hit Ceres and now there's a reflective patch.

[Anonymous No.7378870]

>>7378861
Ceres is an icy object.

[Anonymous No.7379253]

>>7362247
Thats a fucking colony I dont give a fuck!

[Anonymous No.7379321]

>>7378842

The International Astronomical Union has named 16 of Ceres' craters. As of July 3, the bright spots region is named Occator.

http://planetarynames.wr.usgs.gov/SearchResults?target=CERES&featureType=Crater%2C%20craters

[Anonymous No.7379363]

http://www.nasa.gov/jpl/dawn-holding-in-second-mapping-orbit

>Dawn Holding in Second Mapping Orbit

>DAWN MISSION STATUS REPORT

>NASA's Dawn spacecraft is healthy and stable, after experiencing an anomaly in the system that controls its orientation. It is still in its second mapping orbit 2,700 miles (4,400 kilometers) above dwarf planet Ceres.

>On June 30, shortly after turning on its ion engine to begin the gradual spiral down to the next mapping orbit, its protective software detected the anomaly. Dawn responded as designed by stopping all activities (including thrusting), reconfiguring its systems to safe mode and transmitting a radio signal to request further instructions. On July 1 and 2, engineers made configuration changes needed to return the spacecraft to its normal operating mode. The spacecraft is out of safe mode, using the main antenna to communicate with Earth.

>Dawn will remain at its current orbital altitude until the operations team has completed an analysis of what occurred and has updated the flight plan.

>Because of the versatility of Dawn's ion propulsion system and the flexibility of the mission's plan for exploring Ceres, there is no special "window" for starting or completing the spiral to the third mapping orbit. The plans for the third and fourth mapping orbits can be shifted to new dates without significant changes in objectives or productivity.

[Anonymous No.7379749]

>>7378861

>hits hard enough to leave 90km crater
>and a nice patch of ice

The scary thing is that many people are idiotic enough to believe this.

[Anonymous No.7379756]

Jesus Christ it's fucking nothing.
It's glass, assholes. Made by some small, high-velocity impact millions of years ago and kept free of dust just because of local anomalies in the micro-atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.7379837]

>>7379321
>the bright spots region is named Occator
... for a class of Transport ship, wtf??

[Anonymous No.7379994]

>>7379837
Occator is one of the helper gods of the harvest, overseen by Ceres, and listed here as presented by Wilhelm Heinrich Roscher:


>Vervactor, "He who ploughs"
>Reparator, "He who prepares the earth"
>Imporcitor, "He who ploughs with a wide furrow"[19]
>Insitor, "He who plants seeds"
>Obarator, "He who traces the first ploughing"
>Occator, "He who harrows"
>Serritor, "He who digs"
>Subruncinator, "He who weeds"
>Messor, "He who reaps"
>Conuector (Convector), "He who carries the grain"
>Conditor, "He who stores the grain"
>Promitor, "He who distributes the grain"

[Anonymous No.7380049]

>>7378787
Is that dar chunk in the middle of all the light in eastern USA the entire state of West virginia?

[Anonymous No.7380057]

>>7378787
And what are all those lights in the Australian outback? Wtf?

[Anonymous No.7380069]

why is sci obsessing over shit evidence like this when there is so much more interesting evidence to entertain ETs out there?

I'll tell you: Sensationalization.

[Anonymous No.7380134]

>>7378837
kek

[Anonymous No.7380160]

>>7380057
Might be natural gas extraction, but I don't really know what's going on with the lights.

[Anonymous No.7380162]

>>7378787
So many questions
Why the fuck is Holland so bright?
Why is NW England brighter than SE England?
Are those ayys in the Outback?
Why is New Guinea the only entire landmass with no lights whatsoever?
What is that cluster in Siberia
Does anyone live in Canada?
Do the Congolese know what electricity is?

[Anonymous No.7380192]

>>7380069

Why are fags so keen to shut down discussion of this interesting phenomenon which defies explanation?

[Anonymous No.7380209]

>>7380192
It doesn't defy explanation.
For some reason /x/tards jump to the conclusion that every exciting new discovery is aliens.

[Anonymous No.7380268]

>>7380209

It does defy explanation, if it didn't we'd know what it was you kool-aid drinking piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.7380280]

>>7378646

Why are they trying to imply that fresh crater with light ejecta is comparable to the unexplained bright spots? The light ejecta is what we'd expect from an impact, unlike the bright spots.

[Anonymous No.7380292]

>>7378646

Whatever was in the impactor is creating the reflection IMO.

[Anonymous No.7380301]

>>7380292

What, the impactor hit hard enough to create a 90km crater but left a shiny patch of ice instead of vapourizing? Is that your opinion?

[Anonymous No.7380306]

>>7362242

They are actually calling that "spot 5" now, with other different features called spot1-5. Really?

[Anonymous No.7380329]

>>7380209
I'm a xtard and think that this is just reflections/glass.

Please don't don't us all with these gullible morons.

[Anonymous No.7380336]

Look, we know for a fact that NASA censors anything that is direct evidence of ETs visiting us.

They cut their live transmission feed whenever something untoward appears/happens. Astronauts are forbidden to talk about UFOs if they see any, and in the past direct reference to alien craft has resulted in the radio channel being taken off air and privatized.

From that data alone we know that NASA must be confident that these photos are natural phenomenon such as glass/ reflections. If you want the real answers, you have to search beneath popular media. You have to branch off on your own and work out the revelation from the ridicule. /sci/ is a bunch of kids and are unable to spoonfeed themselves cereal which is why we keep getting shit threads like this.

[Anonymous No.7380346]

>>7380336

And I'm sure you have some real hardcore proof to back up your shit.

[Anonymous No.7380349]

>>7380346
define hardcore
Most pilots/astronauts see UFOs all the time. Buzz Aldrin/Edgar Mitchell and others publicly state there is a ET coverup.

They walked on the moon by the way.

[Anonymous No.7380352]

>>7380349

prove UFOs are aliens.

[Anonymous No.7380357]

>>7380301

That the impactor contained minerals that were distributed over the surface. Some would have been vaporized, but not all. The luminous material appears to be distributed from a high angle impact.

Doubt it's ice.

[Anonymous No.7380366]

>>7380352
I can only prove UFOs are UFOs.

Yet, do we ever see UFO threads on sci?

Nope.

Explain to me why spots on Ceres is acceptable but UFOs are not.

[Anonymous No.7380369]

>>7380366

Because there's no reputable evidence that UFOs are anything more than tricks of light or illusions and hallucinations.

[Anonymous No.7380374]

>>7380369
and there's no reputable evidence that Ceres' spots are anything more than tricks of light or illusions and hallucinations

[Anonymous No.7380376]

>>7380374

The spots on Ceres aren't flying around in Earth's atmosphere abducting cattle.

[Anonymous No.7380377]

>>7380366
Saying "We don't know what this is" is NOT saying "We don't know what this is so this must be alien". It's saying "We don't know what this is, YET"

[Anonymous No.7380503]

>>7380377
and you missed the point where I said UFOs are never discussed because of ridicule, even if they are governmental or natural phenomenon

[Anonymous No.7380504]

>>7380503

There's no evidence, though.

None.

[Anonymous No.7380521]

>>7380336
I know the footage and radio station you're talking about. It's tin foil bullshit not data nor proof of anything but your irrationality and gullibility.

[Anonymous No.7380538]

>>7362332
The United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA)

[Anonymous No.7380575]

My conclusions so far are that its either
A) LAVA
B) ALIENS

I dont think there would be panic over extraterrestial life. Life and war and other shit would continue like before.

[Anonymous No.7380588]

>>7380504
what do you even mean?
there are radar reports and video captures of countless UFOs
entire cities have raised questions to political authorities about what they collectively saw above the skies e.g. phoenix lights

[Anonymous No.7380598]

>>7370157
Ignore this alienposter, shitposting vita FTLWIFI from his NEET crater.

[Anonymous No.7380608]

>>7380588

evidence is something repeatable, though. Any mysterious lights in the sky that have been repeated have been identified.

99% of the time it's just a misidentified aircraft, sattelite, or other such ordinary occurance, and UFO sightings have rapidly dropped with the advent of camera-equipped phones because it's so much easier to record-and-disprove sightings.

[Anonymous No.7380623]

>>7380608
The lights on Ceres will be repeatable. Get your head ready for it.

[Anonymous No.7380626]

>>7380623

And they'll just turn out to be ice or whatever.

[Anonymous No.7380635]

>>7380626
When did ice start making light? I must have missed that lesson. You point is well taken though, the lights could be some exotic must have material. Then the real space race can get going.

[Anonymous No.7380636]

>>7380357

And what magic mineral would that be?

[Anonymous No.7380651]

>>7380636
From known chemistry/physics, nothing inorganic I can think of. A thing I've noticed is the organized patterns the light are showing. And by organization the lights are not scattered in a pattern similar to meteor impact all over Ceres. The lights, what we can see of them now, appear to be organized like civilization on Earth.

[Anonymous No.7380675]

>>7380636

There's plenty of minerals that reflect light.

Various crystals, for example.

[Anonymous No.7380702]

>>7362242
JPL, on the off chance your watching this thread, we could use more than 1 picture a day posted to your gallery. When your looking for funding, remember how you had the crowd rockin with a live feed. Anything please.

[Anonymous No.7380739]

>>7380675
Do you think the lights are reflective or are emitting light?

[Anonymous No.7380758]

Latest image. More of the same....

[Anonymous No.7380782]

>>7380635
>>7380651
>>7380739

The bright spots are not "emitting" light. Please do basic research before shitposting.

[Anonymous No.7380801]

>>7380782

>not "emitting" light

Yeah...

[Anonymous No.7380841]

>>7380801
It's one of the trolls who beset the Snow Queen.

[Anonymous No.7380847]

ctrl f light 76 matches
ctrl f reflec 33 matches

[Anonymous No.7380853]

>>7380801
>Yeah...

Yeah what? What are you trying to say? Use your words.

[Anonymous No.7380874]

>>7380853
Just saying, this looks exactly like emitted light from a city. When the resolution is many times better and lights become even more apparent as an infrastructure, and we are seeing reflected light from the streetlights of cities on Ceres.

[Anonymous No.7380876]

>>7380801
Are you people trolls or do you just not read the threads? THAT'S A LOW EXPOSURE IMAGE OF THE SPOTS. The detector is only on for a short time so it collects less photons. The only reason the rest of Ceres appears dark is because the entire picture is "dimmed". It is still reflecting direct sunlight. In pic related, the mirrors aren't emitting anything. The same thing happens with ice in large quantities. Try going skiing without sunglasses on sometime.

[Anonymous No.7380888]

>>7380874
> this looks exactly like emitted light from a city
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>When the resolution is many times better and lights become even more apparent as an infrastructure
DUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>we are seeing reflected light from the streetlights of cities on Ceres.
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.7380910]

>>7380162

-high population density, high level of development. crossroads of northern Europe.
-center of English industry. also duchy of Lancaster will rise again
-industrial development as >>7380160 suggest
-7.5m people in 330,000 mi2
-Siberia is not as harsh and inhospitable as Doctor Zhivago would have you believe
-Mostly along the southern border as seen
-black people cancel out the electric lights

[Anonymous No.7382069]

>>7380888

That's basically the fallback argument for closed-minded plebs.

[Anonymous No.7382071]

>>7380876

Are you a faggot?

[Anonymous No.7382085]

>>7382071
Are you an ayy lmao?

[Anonymous No.7382138]

>>7380758
Why they do fucking super zoom on random places on the planet instead of zooming on the fucking anomaly???

[Anonymous No.7382143]

>>7382138
They are doing science anon.

See all those craters? Every line and every spot is meticulously categorized and analyzed.

[Anonymous No.7382153]

>>7382138
It's not a zoom, it's the view of the camera. It photographs the area it's falling over.

[Anonymous No.7382291]

>>7382143

>see all those craters?

[Anonymous No.7382297]

>>7382138
>>7382138
Because unlike you, trippleQuestionMark kun, who're only interested in fantasy and ayy lmao outposts they're there to catalog the actual planet.
They know it isn't a chupacabra-landing-strip-xenomorph-casino-town so they survey whatever it is when it comes up just like they investigate everything else.

[Anonymous No.7382874]

>>7382138
Patience anon. The good shit is coming.

[Anonymous No.7382902]

>>7382138
Because releasing images of haram locations is forbidden.
>>7382143
Yeah yeah we can do that later, we want to see the ayys first.
>>7382297
Science is about focusing on what's most interesting and unknown, those lights tick all boxes.
>I know it isn't aliens
Please go tip your fedora somwhere else. Even if it's super unlikely to be aliens you can't say it's impossible with the knowledge you have.

[Anonymous No.7384292]

>>7382297
1: everybody is freaking out at those spots and so nasa thinks "oh well let's zoom other uninteresting places instead"

2:what a coincidence, dawn has a glitch and the orbit he's supposed to do is fucked
COINCIDENCE

[Anonymous No.7384350]

>>7384292

The Ion propulsion system makes very minor adjustments to Dawn's velocity, and the anomaly did not destabilize the spacecraft's orbit. The parameters of the science mission will not be significantly impacted sans delays.

[Anonymous No.7384905]

>probe draws closer and closer
>finally within range to clearly see the source of the lights
>it's a message

[Anonymous No.7384916]

>>7382291

>you can light them!

[Anonymous No.7384941]

>>7384292
retards are freaking out, it's not nasas job to entertain you plebs.

[Anonymous No.7386211]

>>7384941
NASA is and always has been an entertainment agency, they were set up in the 50s to take our minds off our failures in the Cold War.

[Anonymous No.7386234]

it's probably aleins tbh

[Anonymous No.7386266]

They called the probe Yawn for a reason.

[Anonymous No.7386358]

The reflection is probably the remains of a diamond meteor

[Anonymous No.7386425]

>>7382902
>Please go tip your fedora somwhere else. Even if it's super unlikely to be aliens you can't say it's impossible with the knowledge you have.

What the fuck is this about fedora tipping I keep hearing about? Every other time you call fairytale on some /x/-tian type claim this comes up.
Is it really a thing, do sane people in the US go around in hats tipping them at each other to signalize each other how they're grounded in reality?

[Anonymous No.7386454]

>>7362671
>and none of it is produced artificially
we've been to the Moon.

[Anonymous No.7386462]

>>7362917
Aliens are black???

[Anonymous No.7386652]

News is pretty quiet but there's some recent news.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/07/10/the-weird-white-spots-on-ceres-might-not-be-ice-after-all/

> based on the spectral data the team did get, Russell said, the spots "really don't look like mounds of ice."

Interesting.

[Anonymous No.7386827]

>>7362242
Nothing happening with Ceres until after the Pluto flyby. No need to massively confuse the Earthlings with things like alien worlds right next door. Looks like we're going to need to get our shit together.

http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/energy/nuclear/boeing-patents-laser-nuclear-fusion-jet-engine

[Anonymous No.7387032]

>NASA has 100% total control over what images of Ceres gets taken
>NASA also has 100% total control over what images of Ceres gets released
>NASA obviously made the decision to take several images of the bright spots and release them to the public
>HURR GUY'S IT'S A COVER UP! Why aren't they doing X instead of Y
Why are conspiritards so fucking retarded? I mean really, I can somewhat understand chemtrails and shit like that because tinfoils can always make up some fairytale about evil corporations enslaving us or whatever. But this, THIS becomes 100% undeniably illogical in only 3 simple steps. There's no room for argumentation here. Either we get no images of the spots at all because it's a coverup OR we get images because it's NOT. The latter undeniably being the case.

[Anonymous No.7387185]

>>7387032
Not to be That Guy, but NASA doesn't actually have full control over the mission's science. The framing cameras belongs to the Germans, specifically the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research.

[Anonymous No.7387194]

>>7387185
100% of data/commands to and from the probe goes through NASA command. NASA command in turn might receive instructions from Max Planck. So the point still stands as it were

[Anonymous No.7387839]

>>7362247
>>7364696
Watching this makes me think it's either an asteroid impact that rustled straight into the crust of Ceres, and it's quite a fresh impact, leaking magma.
But it's complete vacuum, -200C or something there, it wouldn't be bright like this.

>>7366420
Maybe a comet, it's got enough ice to make an impact like this and as the sun reheats the ice, it turns into a giant mesh of vapor like that..

Or maybe it was a metallic asteroid with fissile elements, which created a chain reaction on impact. It's just an idea, I'm not an expert or anything, I just hate seeing things I can't explain. I'd hate it if it was...Something like, not normal, you know.

An alien base would still make sense for the sake of it, but it doesn't look like one.

[Anonymous No.7387864]

>>7387839
>magma
>-200C
>giant mesh of vapor
>chain
>it doesn't look like one
Holy shit do you know anything about anything? I'm surprised you can even get the "select all bread" captchas right so you could post that

[Anonymous No.7387886]

>>7387864
I'm not a scientist or anything, i'm just extrapolating!

[Anonymous No.7387897]

>>7387886
There are literally 6 year olds that know more about this than you. You're not "extrapolating". You're spewing out whatever ignorant thought crosses your head instead of spending 5 minutes reading the wikipedia article.
>>>/x/pol/

[Anonymous No.7387920]

>>7387897
calm your nerves anon. at this point you don't know more or less about what's going on on this fucking planet.

[Anonymous No.7387931]

>>7387920
I know 90% of what you suggested is impossible. Not unlikely; impossible. Due to simple facts. So that's a start. Considering I HAVE "spent 5 minutes reading the wikipedia article" and other stuff, I'd say I know at least 10 times as much as you do.

[Anonymous No.7388729]

>>7387864
Let the hatred flow through you.

[Anonymous No.7388938]

>>7387839
>Watching this makes me think it's either an asteroid impact that rustled straight into the crust of Ceres, and it's quite a fresh impact, leaking magma.
>But it's complete vacuum, -200C or something there, it wouldn't be bright like this.

It's not magma. There's a very early shot of the bright spots in visible and infrared already posted in this thread. >>7375222

The bright region has approximately the same temperature as the bulk of Ceres' surface - between 130 and 200 Kelvin.

The attached image is a visible and Infrared view of Haulani, one of Ceres' high albedo craters. Thanks to its increased reflectivity, the region is noticeably cooler than the surrounding, darker landscape. The absence of apparent temperature differences in the Occator region is one of the biggest unsolved mysteries of the bright spots.

[Anonymous No.7388957]

>>7362332
Brookings report:

[Anonymous No.7388978]

>>7362917
Oh, that's good to know, because in other gifs and images I've seen, it looks more like the bright regions maintain their brilliant luminous quality even as they move with the planets rotation. Something that would be impossible for a reflection.

[Anonymous No.7388989]

>>7388978
>Something that would be impossible for a reflection.

I think that's only true for specular reflection. If I recall correctly, a perfectly diffuse reflection should sustain its apparent brightness at all angles.

[Anonymous No.7389010]

Here's a map of Ceres' named features, so everyone can be on the same page when discussing locations.

[Anonymous No.7389094]

>>7389010
These are some silly names, anon

[Anonymous No.7389106]

>>7389094

They are silly, but they're consistent; they're all helper gods of the harvest, of which Ceres is chief. Incidentally, Ceres is also the root word for cereal.

[Anonymous No.7389131]

>>7375443
I see this in almost every Ceres thread, are you the same person who posts in every thread? If so, I admire your dedication. And also think you're fucking hilarious, I hope it is too an sunegg anon

[Anonymous No.7389166]

>>7389106
that's pretty fucking cool, thanks for that snippet of info anon.

[Anonymous No.7389195]

>>7388989
The gif posted here:>>7362671 starts with the bright spot at the center. It's not that the object catches a reflection as was implied.

Besides that, a specular reflection wouldn't show that degree of brightness and we'd see more change in the intensity of reflection. In layman's terms, it would flicker.
http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/refln/u13l1d.cfm

Has anyone thought to look at other planets and moons to see if they have similarities with Ceres?

[Anonymous No.7389269]

>>7389195
>Besides that, a specular reflection wouldn't show that degree of brightness and we'd see more change in the intensity of reflection. In layman's terms, it would flicker.

Lets imagine its a flat field of salt granules inside of a crater, that spans several square miles. At 400 meters per pixel, would we actually see it flicker?

[Anonymous No.7389275]

It's a fucking alien observation post. Why won't you guys just admit it?

[Anonymous No.7389280]

>>7389275
>It's a fucking alien observation post. Why won't you guys just admit it?

Because we're not hot-headed enough to assume that it's an artificial structure without definitive proof, let alone what its purpose might be. Maybe you're right and it is artificial, but whose to say it's not Space Vegas in unregistered spacelanes?

[Anonymous No.7389302]

>>7389280

Not saying that it is, but I know for a fact that quite a lot of people wouldn't believe that if it were true anyway.

[Anonymous No.7389402]

>>7389269
Looking at the region, there's too much variation in topography for it to work that way.

[Anonymous No.7389564]

>>7386652

A far cry from the certainty of ice that folks were shouting down discussion with a couple of weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.7389568]

>>7389275

So the aliens have mastered interstellar travel, but are also stupid enough to build an observation post that's brightly lit and can be seen from space?

[Anonymous No.7389579]

An interesting coincidence is that both Dawn and New Horizons enountered a serious glitch and bounced into safe-mode last week.

[Anonymous No.7389580]

>>7389568

What's stupid about that?

[Anonymous No.7389590]

>>7389580
It's true that aliens might not necessarily actively conceal their presence.

It's also true that the only people who think there are aliens on Ceres are paranoid schizophrenics who think that Sandy Hook and 9/11 were staged.

[Anonymous No.7389591]

>>7389590
>>7389580

Why would an advanced space-faring civilization that was presumably very aware of our presence just sit in a moon base with the lights on passively waiting for us to come say hi? Wouldn't they either have come to say hi to us first, on their terms, or else stay out of sight?

[Anonymous No.7389618]

>>7389590

Pretty scientific outlook you've got there bub. :^)

[Anonymous No.7389622]

>>7389591

I don't know, why don't you ask them? Or better yet, just ask yourself because you've obviously decided that you wouldn't do it so nobody would.

[Anonymous No.7389917]

>>7362917
topkek

[Anonymous No.7389952]

>>7389591
>Why would an advanced space-faring civilization that was presumably very aware of our presence just sit in a moon base with the lights on passively waiting for us to come say hi? Wouldn't they either have come to say hi to us first, on their terms, or else stay out of sight?

Why would they even be waiting for us? For all we know, they could think we're a bunch of ass-backwards hooligans who just happen to be here on Earth, while they're on Ceres for their own purposes, completely oblivious to what we're up to, because it's either not in their pay grade, or they just can't be bothered.

[Anonymous No.7389960]

>>7380910
that last line
topkek

[Anonymous No.7389966]

>big sign that says
>#DEALWITHIT

[Anonymous No.7390107]

>>7389590
With all due respect and since you bought it up: Have you ever stopped and wondered if it's more paranoid and indicative of psychosis to think that way about other people who are asking questions out of reasonable suspicion?

Great relevant point though actually. Seriously, thanks for bringing it up.
Even if you meant to try and throw the thread off-topic with bringing false-flags and media-based attempts to force consensus on them into the discussion. When anyone thinks about it, it quickly becomes worth noting that when any line of discussion and evidence and those following the leads is being treated this way.

Well, that says a lot.

The observant won't have forgotten that this is done with abandon by personages online who regularly use the same appeals to false logic. More to the point, your declaration that drawing independent conclusions about Ceres: Is in line with repeated spamming of dehumanizing language that has been used to interject a link between psychosis and freely speculating based on what we see on Ceres and the way NASA is acting towards it. Or who and what else is around us.
I wonder if Schizophrenics are more liable to be able to differentiate between the voices that tell them to do good things: Vs. The ones telling them to excoriate other people in a systematic pattern to shut these discussions down going into a completely insane, sky-is-falling effort to remove all legitimacy from anyone or anything pointing what everyone knows on some level -Face it, no one would freak out to the point of others being psychotic, unless they know inside that it is true. Only pathological denial needs that kind of reinforcement and compliance from others. The truth stands on It's own for all time.

>>7389622
Earned dubs.

[Anonymous No.7390143]

>>7390107
>reasonable suspicion?
Not the guy you quoted, but there's nothing reasonable at all about it. If you think it's reasonable then you HAVE to also seriously consider that the bright area is a splash of jizz from the invisible space giant, or that Ceres is just a fake Moldavian hologram with a glitch in the code. Obviously there's nothing "reasonable" in suspecting that it might be one of those things, but they both have 100% as much evidence to support them as your pet ayy lmao theory.

[Anonymous No.7390155]

>>7390143

Any of those other things are entirely impossible, whereas ETs are not.

[Anonymous No.7390160]

>>7390155
1. You can't explain specifically what makes them impossible in a way that does not also exclude MUH ALIENS
2. They still have exactly as much evidence as your pet theory. The fact that your pet theory is grouped with things you call impossible should tell you something about how reasonable you're being.

[Anonymous No.7390225]

>>7390160
So, you admit that this can't be explained readily, yet you insist that It's impossible for the radiant formations on Ceres to be the product of intelligence because of your personal bias against those who consider it a likely possibility. An assessment rooted in extreme hostility and paranoia directed at those who seek and share information that leads them to consider that Ceres is inhabited.

Why? If it actually was just a ridiculous impossibility with no evidence backing the conclusion. Then why go to the effort to force the consensus that It's an absurd possibility. Instead of just waiting and trusting NASA that the truth will leave no doubt that you are correct?

If however, they intended to manipulate the truth to their benefit. Then it would stand to reason that alternative views and the conclusion that they've known for a long time: Must be driven out of collective awareness. Which explains the denial quite well.

[Anonymous No.7390270]

>>7390160

You're not real big on science are you? You wouldn't be a religious person by chance?

[Anonymous No.7390297]

>>7390225
>admit
You see, here's where your lack of knowledge about how science works comes through. There's nothing to "admit", there's no explanation now and that's perfectly fine. It doesn't imply anything. It's simply: We don't know. Period.
>impossible
You are the only one saying something is impossible. And you have done nothing to respond to point 1 and 2 about aliens being in the same category as things you define as impossible.
>radiant
The spots are not radiant in any way/spectrum and if it weren't for your "personal bias" towards ALIENS!!!1 you would probably have understood this by now by actually reading what NASA has written about them.

[Anonymous No.7390307]

>>7390225
If there was any sort of "coverup" you wouldn't know about the spots to begin with.
You have not thought this through (or you are stupid) there is no way around this for you.
See >>7387032

[Anonymous No.7390321]

Anyone fooled into thinking that cognitive dissonance and ad-hom prove that there is nothing on Ceres?

[Anonymous No.7390334]

>>7390321

No. I know this is /sci/ and not /x/, but I've seen god-damned UFOs with my own two eyes so my mind is open on the matter.

[Anonymous No.7390340]

>>7390334
>seen something that by definition is unidentified
>immediately associates it with aliens
>open minded
No anon, that is not what that word means.

[Anonymous No.7390366]

>>7390340

Whatever man, only one of us knows for sure. I'll never convince you, but you'll never convince me either so we'll leave it at that.

[Anonymous No.7390380]

>>7390366
I'm not trying to convince you of anything other than that you don't know what the words "open minded" means.

[Anonymous No.7390437]

>>7390380

I feel bad for you. :^)