CRS-7 Failure

[Anonymous No.7361358]

Is it bad to be legitimately saddened by this?

It's like watching the manifestation of the collective toil of several thousand people for months being blown away by a slight breeze
>all those experiments
>the spacecraft
>all the work put into stage one, hoping that it would be the one to finally make history
Feels bad man

[Anonymous No.7361445]

>>7361358
she didnt fly so good


but no, everyone who cares about space exploration is.

[Anonymous No.7361485]

>spacex

[Anonymous No.7361492]

>>7361358
It's OK to be sad for *anyone* having a shitty day.

[Anonymous No.7361497]

>>7361485
oh, fuck off

[Anonymous No.7361543]

>>7361497
It's ok, Elon. Don't cry.

[Anonymous No.7361856]

>using anything but this invincible fucker
And this kids is what happens when you always go for the cheapest.

[Anonymous No.7361860]

>>7361856

[Anonymous No.7361864]

It's always the goddamn valves.

http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/28/watch-spacex-launch-crs-7-and-attempt-rocket-recovery-via-drone-live-now/

[Anonymous No.7361868]

>>7361358
All those grad students...

[Anonymous No.7361890]

It's depressing, but nothing beats your rocket roasting the three men in the command capsule while it's still on the launch pad.

[Anonymous No.7361892]

Honestly, who cares? I am glad the stupid rocket exploded. There is no good reason to send shit into space when 99% of the population hasn't even read Moby Dick. Oh wow, you're eating floating Jello. Instead of spreading philistinism across the entire galaxy, why don't we work harder to reach higher states of consciousness through art, poetry, music, and culture?

[Anonymous No.7361893]

>be on the International Space Station

>Something like three different spacecraft, some related to my mission, some not, some MANNED, have failed in the past two years

>mfw everyone takes every single one of these missions very seriously, everyone is doing their absolute best to get it right, and they still fail sometimes

>mfw I'm going to have to come down from this chandelier, sooner or later

[Anonymous No.7361909]

>>7361892

Consider the following: The species is constituted in such a way that it engages in intra-species competition for resources, particularly sexual access, and various goods and experiences. This situation is the underlying reason for warfare. That the species has partial mastery of a single ball, with the capacity to commit suicide, makes its present situation extraordinarily precarious.

I would suggest that in the interest of survival, we employ a strategy of diversification, both seeking to colonize other nearby balls (thereby 'changing the world'), and using science to modify the animal somewhat (thereby changing the animal).

I'm all for the arts as a means to make life worth living, but the above has precedence.

[Anonymous No.7361917]

>>7361909
>responding to trool post
Look, i consider myself a realist, all right, but in philosophical terms, I'm what's called a pessimist, means I'm bad at parties. I think human consciousness was a tragic misstep in evolution. We became too self-aware. Nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, this accretion of sensory experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact, everybody's nobody. I think the honorable thing for species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal. I tell myself I bear witness, but the real answer is that it's obviously my programming, and I lack the constitution for suicide.

[Anonymous No.7361924]

>>7361909
Strife is justice. Industry without art is brutality. Death is nothing.

[Anonymous No.7361927]

>>7361892
must... not... reply

[Anonymous No.7361935]

>>7361909
>particularly sexual access
Penetrating your virtual-robotic Frankenstein girlfriend will not take your virginity away.

[Anonymous No.7361947]

>>7361909
What do you mean by "using science to modify the animal somewhat"? How exactly?

[Anonymous No.7361958]

>>7361860
Yeah, and here's the rest, fuccboi

[Anonymous No.7361959]

>>7361917

>stealing lines from, I think, that "True Detective" TV show

dropped

[Anonymous No.7361979]

>>7361860
>2002 was 13 years ago

[Anonymous No.7361999]

Personally I was really only watching the live stream in hopes that they would show the first stage landing. Of course the first time I watched a live launch by SpaceX it failed.

Additionally I have a question for people who are much smarter than me: why does the flame from the engines appear to spread out so much later in the flight? Is it because of the thinner atmosphere or supersonic airflow doing all sorts of black magic to the rear of the rocket?

[Anonymous No.7362000]

>>7361958
>implying the first starts aren't the riskiest

[Anonymous No.7362013]

>>7362000
But that's not the point he was making.

[Anonymous No.7362019]

The SJWs sabotaged it because it looks like a white penis.

[Anonymous No.7362054]

>>7361892
Best bait I've seen in a while

[Anonymous No.7362084]

>>7361358
Honest question: Were you saddened by recent Progress and Antares failures?

I wasn't, but yesterday's failure made me quite sad.
I think that's because what SpaceX is doing is way more inspiring than what other are doing.
Yes, a lot of what SpaceX is doing is PR, but it's not a necessarily a bad thing: they're quite good at it (watching ESA's streams is really painful, and I say that as an European) and space exploration does need a lot of popular support, one of the best way to create this support is by doing efficient PR.

Besides, I was watching the launch live

>>7361999
>thinner atmosphere
yup, basically engine nozzle are optimized for sea-level pressure. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine_nozzle))

[Anonymous No.7362117]

>>7362084
>Were you saddened by recent Progress and Antares failures?
Well it didn't help that this was the first failure I saw live, though though I must have watched the Antares failure 100+ times if for nothing but out of pure fascination

[Anonymous No.7362124]

>>7361892
liberal arts major pls go

[Anonymous No.7362126]

>>7362117
saw a failure live*

[Twiggy !!ErZLYHNhXgZ No.7362164]

>>7361909
your desire:
1. escape from the world
2. escape from the problems associated with the mind and body
3. escape from war
4. escape from death
new, improved world
new, improved person
peace without war
life without death
ignoring the power to bring this about
ignoring the possible unintended consequences if the power to bring this about is there
why have this new, improved world and this new, improved person?
why have peace without war? why have life without death?
then what?
without war, peace is worthless
without death, life is worthless
humans desire war
humans desire death
war and death give us meaning
life without meaning is worthless
new, improved life in a new, improved world without meaning is worthless
you desire to make life worth living yet you desire to take away the things that make life worth living
modify the animal to not desire meaning and you kill the animal
there is no escape
the road up and the road down is one and the same

[Anonymous No.7362178]

>>7362164
/lit/ pls go

[Anonymous No.7362602]

I heard from one source that the escape system was intended to fire, but, evidently did not go as planned. Did anyone else hear this?

Honestly, I am frustrated that it failed, the US Spacesuit was sorely needed, and some of the experiments were already destroyed, but I am glad it happened when know one was onboard. I hope this makes Spacex, or NASA, reconsider this programme and how they are tackling these issues. SpaceX needs to be more transparent, they have had issues before and they have released very little.

this is clearly a potentially serious problem, it may be related to previous problems. They need to be clear, and open, in their evaluation.

[Anonymous No.7362649]

>>7362602
Don't think the escape system was active, but the second stage going boom pushed the capsule off the top

[Anonymous No.7362756]

>>7362649
There is no escape system on cargo Dragon. And they haven't tested it yet on crew Dragon.

But I think it's too bad that the capsule didn't try to pop its chute. It is reported to have still sent telemetry after it fell off the rocket, so it was probably intact.

[Anonymous No.7362797]

next fireworks on fryday

[Anonymous No.7362800]

>first launch is kill
>find out what is kill spacecraft
>fix
>second launch is space

[Anonymous No.7362834]

>>7362797
Just imagine, for a moment, the anal discomfort of some people when Soyuz actually gets it right. It will be beautiful.

[Anonymous No.7362846]

>>7362834
But Soyuz glorious mother russian technology. Can reenter upside down:
http://www.universetoday.com/13820/soyuz-capsule-hatch-nearly-failed-and-crews-lives-were-on-a-razors-edge/

[Anonymous No.7362847]

>>7361358
I don't have time to be saddened because I'm spending my free time trying to explain to retards that you can't use a balloon to float to zero gravity then gently push your spacecraft to the moon.

[Anonymous No.7362852]

>>7362847
but muh airship to orbit.

[Anonymous No.7362872]

>>7362797
Maybe do one with the actual SpaceX logo and font, for maximal effect

[Anonymous No.7362873]

>>7362852
>
Orbiting objects are falling, not floating!

[Anonymous No.7362903]

Why /sci/ hate SpaceX? It's actually a good company.

[Anonymous No.7362921]

>>7362903
Most of /sci/ seems to mistrust privatized space exploration, for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.7363248]

>>7361358
yea sort of

i mean like half of this company is built off of slave labor and the other half is contractors being in and out before they know how to do their job properly.

[Anonymous No.7363418]

did they died?

[Anonymous No.7363423]

>>7362921

they're redditors/liberals

[Anonymous No.7363441]

>>7361358
yes they will recover

[Anonymous No.7363447]

>>7363423
> liberals
> privatization
lol this is why the liberals/conservative dichotomy is stupid as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7363453]

Every failure is closer to success.

We need big mil. to take up the slack, though. All that waste of money blowing up replaceable idiots in third world shit holes could put us on Mars and create proper space stations.

[ratposter No.7363457]

>>7362164
nice blog

[Anonymous No.7363820]

>>7362797
>>7362872
Sorry for being a faggot.

[Anonymous No.7363844]

>>7361358
This is actually pretty fucking suspicious.

The failure started from the upper stage liquid oxygen tank, when the upper stage wasn't even active, after max-Q had been passed through without incident.

The upper stage LOX tank is the closest major component to the Dragon trunk, where something like an explosive charge or something more subtle like a microwave or induction heater could have been smuggled by contractors or NASA personnel.

[Anonymous No.7363861]

>>7363844
If it was sabotage, this is what it would look like.

The motive was certainly there. SpaceX was on the brink of getting reusability AND their Heavy variant working, with a rapidly-reusable manned capsule following quickly behind, which would have humiliated every other orbital launch program on the planet.

[Anonymous No.7363875]

My dream has always been to explore Mars. Ever since I was a little kid I'd stare at maps of the planet for days trying to imagine what interesting little secrets I'd find in every nook and cranny. If you offered me a one-way trip and a pressurized RV I'd take it and spend the rest of my life wandering about the planet hunting for aliens or funny-looking rocks to send back to Earth with bad pun captions.

So whenever I see a space-related setback I get sad. It means my silly dream of being a space hermit is just another step farther away.

[Anonymous No.7364294]

>>7363844
I think that's a ridiculous idea, but your premises are correct.

Musk says even after lots of data review, no clues. This means something caused the lox tank to suddenly rupture, not a gradual increase you'd get with a stuck release valve.

Some are saying there's a problem getting the 2nd stage telemetry for the final miliseconds before boom.

Here's a crazy idea: what if the docking adapter in the trunk broke loose, and fell on the lox tank dome, rupturing it and damaging the telemetry unit, which at the top of the dome?

How would such a fault be shown after the fact?

[Anonymous No.7364304]

>>7363844
I know I'll get crucified for posting this but:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3bgtr1/ula_sabotages_spacex_falcon_9_rocket_flight/

[Anonymous No.7364315]

>>7364304
That or russia.

[Anonymous No.7364331]

>>7364294
That docking adapter was made by Boeing, ie, half of ULA...

Nah, seriously, I think such conspiracies are just the wetdreams of desperate SpaceX fanboys.

Imagine if Boeing/Lockheed got caught sabotaging? Imagine the ridiculous fallout from that! Highly implausible.

[Anonymous No.7364335]

>>7362019
favorite theory so far

[Anonymous No.7364338]

>>7364331
>Imagine the ridiculous fallout if the US governemt would blow up the WTC
Highly implausible

[Anonymous No.7364416]

So what happens if they can't find the cause?

[Anonymous No.7364437]

>>7363820
Breddy gud. Will certainly be of some use in the future.

[Anonymous No.7364459]

>>7364416
The FAA probably holds them up a while (probably a month or two), then they carry on with more careful attention during manufacturing and more in-flight sensors trying to catch the problem if it happens again.

Even on Falcon 9 (never mind Falcon 1), they've had valves stick and a helium tank rupture before. They've delayed flight after flight because they caught issues shortly before launching. It's really not that surprising for something to finally go during a flight.

Development of the reusable lower stage is key to lowering the cost of flights and increasing launch rate so they can work out the bugs through experience.

[Anonymous No.7365209]

>>7361890
Idk man launching when you know it's not safe is pretty bad, especially when your body count is this high

[Anonymous No.7365213]

>>7365209
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.7365278]

I just couldn't see it done with a different font.

The N at the end was a real bitch. I thought I could use the A but it was too steep. The X worked real well though.

[Anonymous No.7365293]

>Scott Kelly, one of the astronauts aboard the >space station, tweeted that he had watched the >launch.

>"Sadly failed," he wrote. "Space is hard."

[Anonymous No.7365304]

>>7363423
Redditors worship elon musk though

[Anonymous No.7365313]

>>7361485
>anime

[Anonymous No.7365316]

>>7365293
>"Sadly failed," he wrote. "Space is hard."

>"Rockets just keep bonking into it and breaking."

[Anonymous No.7365596]

Sometimes you learn more from failure than success

[Anonymous No.7365938]

>>7365596
Well, they haven't learned anything yet aside from that they're not invincible.

[Anonymous No.7365956]

At least the astronauts' food was cooked
Better than most meals those poor fuckers get

[Anonymous No.7365988]

>>7365938
A full failure analysis of a complex system takes a long time. SpaceX's previous failures occurred in heavily instrumented systems that left nothing to question. Figuring out what went wrong, why it went wrong, and how to fix it could reasonably take several months.

[Anonymous No.7366005]

post yfw SpaceX loses CRS-2 contract because of this

[Anonymous No.7366033]

>, Earth
Was that really necessary?

[Anonymous No.7366074]

>>7366033
?

[Anonymous No.7366075]

>SpaceX official website still says nothing of the launch failure
>The Falcon 9 rocket has a success rate of 18/18

inb4 they remove that stat from their website

[Anonymous No.7366084]

>>7366075
>implying they waste money on a 24/7 web designer
>implying the website isn't managed by some unpaid intern who is busy/doesn't give a fuck