What was your undergrad thesis /sci/?

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Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:07:25 2015 No.7356550 [Reply] [Original]

What was your undergrad thesis /sci/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:11:07 2015 No.7356555 >>7356550 Kinetic control over generation of Silicon stereocenters

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:38:47 2015 No.7356583 >>7356550 Simulating Magnetohydrodynamic waves in a particle-resolved relativistic plasma

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:41:31 2015 No.7356591 >>7356550 What the fuck is this thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 10:57:11 2015 No.7356630 >>7356550 I did a research on trying to use neural networks to find the world's most retarded image and I arrived here. I'm getting a PhD tomorrow as well as a Turing award and shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:02:45 2015 No.7356640 >>7356630 brendan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:05:28 2015 No.7356643 >>7356550 I'd tell you, but I know mine is online and I don't want you to know who I am. It had to do with a protein involved in RNAi however.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 11:58:37 2015 No.7356738 Change in monosyllabic noun usage in English during the Renaissance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:24:46 2015 No.7357018 >>7356591 swamp booger

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:39:52 2015 No.7357039
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>>7356550
>thesis
engineer here, so you guys only have to write one thesis?

I had to design a whole chemical plant, plus do the finances, plus the planing and shit.

>pic related
>that pic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:43:48 2015 No.7357045 >>7357039 I also had a full plant design (totaling 5 tech reports / ~300 pages) and two research publications my final year, though you only need to do one research project for credits. It shocks me how little work other majors do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:46:41 2015 No.7357054 >>7357039 >implying you had to do more than just copying and filling in equations What you lack in knowledge and skill you must compensate for with work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:47:36 2015 No.7357059 >>7357045 Thanks for reminding me of the research project. I am trying to forget that shit ever happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:50:17 2015 No.7357069 >>7357054 >I have neither knowledge nor skill, but still think my opinions are valued! Design projects are open problems, it's the opposite of the textbook type problems you're used to regurgitating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:50:32 2015 No.7357070 >>7357039 >plus do the finances, plus the planing and shit. top fucking kek. This what engineers refer to when they talk about how hard their degrees are?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:53:00 2015 No.7357075 >>7357070 An economic optimization is inherently more non-linear and difficult to model than a physical optimization.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:53:33 2015 No.7357076 >>7357070 Yes, we refer to the easy part of it and not the harder part that you ignore

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:56:03 2015 No.7357081

>>7356550
>>7356555
>>7356583
>>7356630
>>7356643
>>7356738
>Just sit down and write 10 pages of stuff, adding graphs for fluff
top fucking kek. This what scientists refer to when they talk about how hard their degrees are?

You guys are basically English majors

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:58:47 2015 No.7357089 >>7357069 >Design projects are open problems So? All good dissertations are on open problems. What the other anon was saying was your open problem was pretty basic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 14:59:00 2015 No.7357090 Tried to prove Witten's conjecture in slightly more general context by mimicking Kazarian and Lando's proof. Failed, but fun.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:02:47 2015 No.7357096

>>7357059
Yeah, undergrad research projects can be tough depending on what you're doing or who your adviser is.

One of my undergrads this year completely cracked and started crying under a lab bench in the fetal position. She didn't recover until the next morning. (deadline and exams were coming up so they started pulling all nighters)

I didn't report it to the prof because I knew she was already barely getting a passing grade and I really didn't want to risk dealing with her fucking up my experiments again next year.

Fucking weakfags causing lab backlogs...

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:04:43 2015 No.7357100

>>7357075
So what? You say this with a vague air of reverence when you know perfectly well engineers, and especially fucking undergrads writing a thesis, can't do "economic optimization" for shit and is not what they are trained to do.

>>7357076
If you didn't refer to the harder part, I can't be faulted for "ignoring" it. What is the harder part, writing made up accounting estimates of a chemical plan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:07:12 2015 No.7357102 >>7356550 That OP is a fag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:07:32 2015 No.7357103 >>7357081 I double majored in English and Physics...

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:09:07 2015 No.7357108

>>7357089
>Implying you understand cheme well enough to comment on the difficulty.
>Implying reactor design is basic.
>Implying designing a control system is basic.
>Implying heat exchangers and the other usual unit op. designs that pop up isn't the easy sub-problem.
>Implying whatever your shitty major is isn't basic shit we covered in previous years.

>inb4 you try to retort with lightweight research projects that you have all the time in the world for and is probably unpublished and/or not nearly as difficult work.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:11:25 2015 No.7357112

>>7357096
Some of the advisers are complete shit

>give in details about how im going to do the experiments
>good anon, its fine, do it
>spends months doing it, with adviser whitnising it sometimes
>give a progress report
>why did you do that? thats wrong
>but, its exactly what i wrote i would do
>yes, but thats wrong
>have to redo everything

turns out the advisers usage of some terms are the exact opposite of what every single reference uses

dumb bitch yelled at me for not doing 60h of experiments in one week once (along with all the other work we had)

Took me months to realize I should just ignore her and do my own thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:15:32 2015 No.7357117 On the Significance of Triple Integrals in Memeposting: A Case Study of 4chan I'm a sociology and communications major

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:17:18 2015 No.7357121

>>7357100
>can't do "economic optimization" for shit and is not what they are trained to do

Are you fucking stupid, they are literally the only degree that is trained to do it, more specifically economic optimizations are a requirement for accreditation. Hell my undergrad year two students published new stochastic DAE systems optimization research in math journals for their research project credits. Everyone had to do at least one full economic optimization at some point in the design project.

9/10 troll, or at least I hope you're a troll and not just a flaming retard who speaks about shit he has zero knowledge of. Stay off /sci/ if you feel you have to spout shit you know nothing off, some popsci comment window or facebook doing armchair science and critiquing GR is more suitable to minds like yours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:18:27 2015 No.7357124 >>7357108 >Implying any of that is hard. My project was in nuclear structure physics, I was trying to extend a model to a wider range of nuclei. It wasn't successful, but then mine was a hard project, yours was glorified number crunching.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:22:35 2015 No.7357130 >>7357124 hahaha this is just sad

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:24:35 2015 No.7357133

>>7357054
>>7357089
Nice dude. Seems like all the top tier mathematicians and scientists from all the best schools browse 4chan's /sci/. I mean, everything that isn't an open problem is trivial. Can't wait till we see P=NP resolved by one of the geniuses here.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:25:01 2015 No.7357135

>>7357124
You don't know anything about any of those fields retard, the models used in non-ideal reactors alone probably have more difficult math and require more background knowledge than your failed little research project.

You're pathetic, if you published relevant research I might've been impressed, but unlike you I did publish a new thermodynamic model in a physical chemistry journal in my undergrad year and I know that open design projects are often more difficult than research.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:27:13 2015 No.7357138 File: 18 KB, 366x380, 1334329164853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357108 This much damage control

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:29:56 2015 No.7357145 >>7357108 None of this is novel work. You can just grab some off the shelf solution and change it for your specific needs. Stop pretending this is even coming close to basically inventing new knowledge.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:29:57 2015 No.7357146

>>7357135
Translation:
>I spent years learning how to use matlab and thermodynamics.

> the models used in non-ideal reactors alone probably have more difficult math and require more background knowledge than your failed little research project.

Awww, it's adorable when chem engineers get ideas above their station.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:30:09 2015 No.7357147

>>7357112
Oh absolutely, one of our research groups is shared with the Physics department. One of the profs. from there also regularly offering projects is pretty smart; got his PhD from MIT PhD, great research rating, but goddamn he cannot fucking communicate what he wants. Pretty the same story that happened to you.

He's also constantly changing equipment schedules forcing everyone to work around him and because he holds a research chair no one ever challenges him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:31:09 2015 No.7357150 >>7357138 Damage control requires you to actually make a dent instead of appearing like buttfrustated child autist who can't get his way.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:33:30 2015 No.7357155

>>7357121
No they aren't you doublenigger retard. Not everyone goes into design and manufacturing, and nothing anyone does in undergrad prepares them worth half a shit for any kind of real world "optimization". That's why most engineers are hired and sit in cubicles and write code and solve ENGINEERING tasks you neckbeard TA faggot, and not economic optimization.

Doing at least one economic optimization 'at some point during a project' is nothing, you fuckwit cunt

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:39:29 2015 No.7357167

>>7357145
>You can just grab some off the shelf solution and change it for your specific needs.
No, again you know nothing about the field. Every design problem is unique, you read a few hundred research papers before you are up to date with the most modern models and technology. If the problem doesn't require a novel solution the professor won't ask it.

It's often more difficult than research projects.

>Stop pretending this is even coming close to basically inventing new knowledge.
Developing new designs and technology literally is inventing new knowledge dumbass. It's a lot more valuable to society than most other academic research.

>>7357146
I'd accept condensation if it was coming from someone someone who was even mildly successful in his field, but not some loser who didn't even get published in undergrad. I have contributed more to physics than you, I'm sorry you were too stupid to get accepted into the engineering college, but sadly just because you got a physics degree doesn't mean you're any good in the field.

Goddamn I'm honestly considering getting a Physics postgrad (which is literally just a call to admin in my field) just to piss off you asspained internet monkeys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:41:54 2015 No.7357171 >>7357167 >Goddamn I'm honestly considering getting a Physics postgrad (which is literally just a call to admin in my field) All this proves is that you go to a really shitty school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:45:26 2015 No.7357174 Guitar effects processing unit with SHARC & Blackfin DSPs

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:47:03 2015 No.7357177

>>7357155
>JUST BECAUSE YOU DO OPTIMIZATION IN UNDERGRAD DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE TRAINED TO DO OPTIMIZATION

Optimization is literally a hallmark trait of the engineering profession and undergrads receive formal training in optimizations methods and analysis. Trying to relate your personal experience of a few shitty engineers doing what you perceive as a shitty job is like trying to imply every single math and physics graduate teaches high-school or is unemployed.

The point is optimization was done in undergrad, it doesn't matter how good or bad individuals are at it or if some industries require it more often than others, they had training, sperging out doesn't change that fact.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 15:55:32 2015 No.7357195

>>7357171
No, it's because I have enough credits in solid state physics courses to do it. Material science research groups at non-shitty schools all have such interdepartmental initiatives. Obviously another engineering degree is more valuable for my career which is the only reason I've never considered it, but I'm doing a PhD anyway so fuck it.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:02:07 2015 No.7357203

>>7357196 (You)
>Oh shit, I'm losing the argument
>Better post a pic where I got my ass handed to me by a cheme, that will show them

How many times do you need to be put in your place before you can learn to argue like a man accept being wrong?

Oh well, back to sperging about shit you don't understand I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:06:43 2015 No.7357208 >>7357203 That chem eng was you, wasn't it. And here you are again sperging out over yet more shit that you don't understand, it's pathetic if I'm honest. But what else is a chem eng degree going to give you if not an undeserved sense of superiority.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:12:12 2015 No.7357217

>>7357208
>And here you are again sperging out over yet more shit that you don't understand, it's pathetic if I'm honest.
Did you seriously just repeat what I told you almost verbatim one post ago?

>But what else is a chem eng degree going to give you if not an undeserved sense of superiority.
High salaries and job satisfaction.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:16:18 2015 No.7357221 File: 44 KB, 200x200, 1420417912304.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357217 >High salaries and job satisfaction. BTFO

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:16:25 2015 No.7357223

>>7357217
>Did you seriously just repeat what I told you almost verbatim one post ago?
>I don't know what it means to be sardonic.

Why do I ever expect more for you people.

>job satisfaction.
>Being satisfied building temporary structures that will decay over time.

That's sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:26:57 2015 No.7357231 >>7357223 Sardonic sure as hell doesn't mean being an uncreative retard who can't argue for shit. Being sarcastic doesn't change the fact that the basis of your post is "no u".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:36:26 2015 No.7357241 I never had to do an undergrad thesis. I'm surprised so many people did.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:47:07 2015 No.7357255
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>>7357167
>I'd accept condensation if it was coming from someone someone who was even mildly successful in his field

>Not accepting condensation from only top-tier scientists

You're just diluting yourself if you think otherwise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:47:19 2015 No.7357256 >>7357241 What type of university gives a degree without a thesis?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:52:34 2015 No.7357260 >>7357255 Whelp, now that you've started attacking my auto-correct I guess you can't make it any clearer that you have nothing of value to add. Cheers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 16:53:54 2015 No.7357263 >>7357039 What school do you go to? Because that's a standard ChemE course that literally hundreds finish each year at my school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:02:55 2015 No.7357270 >>7357256 An unaccredited one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 17:28:51 2015 No.7357322 >>7357260 >thinks I'm even participating in this degree-masturbation argument just bein a cheeki cunt m8

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:10:27 2015 No.7357493 >>7357103 Uk fag here. Don't fully grasp concept of majors yet. So did you do two separate degrees in English and Physics?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:12:39 2015 No.7357498 >>7356550 Computational models of synaptic learning and memory. I tended to focus on Stefano Fusi's work.

Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:21:36 2015 No.7357507

>>7357256
My uni did. They got 4 Fields Medal winner working on campus.

Most undergrad research is simply a nice side-project that takes a lot of time but doesn't add anything to the field. This place seems to have a concentration of people who contributed to research and technology in undegrad for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 19:32:53 2015 No.7357513 >>7357493 Not him, but yes, the requirements and degrees for each major are generally distinct.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 20:49:51 2015 No.7357598 Basically some really crappy data analysis on genomic data.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:01:54 2015 No.7357615 Math degree. Didn't do a thesis. Just coursework. I did, however, do three research projects during undergrad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:15:48 2015 No.7357639 >>7357493 Yeah, I got my physics degree in 3 years, and spent another 3 getting my English degree while I was doing an internship before gradschool

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:31:14 2015 No.7357667 >>7357639 why...why would you do that you can just read books and think about them on your own time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 27 21:34:28 2015 No.7357675 >>7357667 Already committed to the three year internship, and it was free because of the scholarship the community college gave me. So I just took night classes 3-4 times a week.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 03:44:09 2015 No.7358337 >>7357167 >I'd accept condensation if it was coming from someone someone who was even mildly successful in his field Why were you gaseous in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 05:13:36 2015 No.7358429 >>7358337 I apologize, sometimes I let my temperature get the best of me and I boil up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 05:15:02 2015 No.7358432 >>7357667 >you can just read books and think about them on your own time Are you talking about his Physics degree or his English degree?

Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:05:36 2015 No.7360622

Undergrad curricula don't require theses, except if you go to certain schools. At my university a thesis is only required if you go the honors route. My school's a top public though, I guess it's because we have people getting their degree in math/physics to go on to teach HS or be actuaries. It would honestly be unfair if they had to do some research.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 20:09:16 2015 No.7360627 >>7360622 I went to a generic state university and I had to do one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:54:09 2015 No.7360903 >>7357090 Do you know Kazarian? I took a class with him last semester, crazy course. So many strange connections between different objects.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:57:15 2015 No.7360908 >>7360622 >don't require *unless you want a job

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 28 22:59:59 2015 No.7360913 The magnetic field created when sucking dick.

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