/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.7305795]

Why does everyone here hate philosophy? It's a legitimate scientific field. Also as someone that is pursuing a philosophy degree from my local Community College, I feel personally insulted.

[Anonymous No.7305800]

/sci/ is so autistic that people are going to respond to this b8 at face value, even after I post this.

[Anonymous No.7305803]

>>7305800
You think everything is bait don't you. What if I told you people actually do get degrees in philosophy. Not everyone is cut out "Lol no job math major" or "Lol no life electrical engineering majors". Grow up.

[Anonymous No.7305804]

>>7305795
We don't. We just hate pretentious philosophy undergraduates who think they are enlightened because they memorized what others did or said.

[Anonymous No.7305811]

>>7305804
Is that not enlightenment though? What do you think enlightenment is? As the great Sang Tzu Sun once said, "Enlightenment is in the eye's of the beholder".

[Anonymous No.7305812]

What are the job prospect of philo major?

[Anonymous No.7305818]

>>>/s4s/

[Anonymous No.7305821]

>>7305812
I don't really need a job considering I inherited a large sum of money from a relative. I'll probably just end up teaching a school somewhere honestly.

[Anonymous No.7305824]

>>7305821
Wow, your son will be so grateful you were a lazy cunt.
Why don't you invest it and pass it on to the next generation.
You're too stupid to work.

[Anonymous No.7305832]

[Anonymous No.7305834]

>>7305824
>invest it
You mean give my money to the Jewish Ogrelord, nah not happening.
>children
Not having kids. If personal robots get invented with life like personalities (AI's) then I might consider one, but procreating with a whore woman and bringing a child into this god forsaken land is a sin.

[Anonymous No.7305838]

>>7305834
Wow, you're funny man.

[Anonymous No.7305849]

I like Philosophy. If it were going to be a financially secure venture, I would spend tons of time on it. But time is short, and spending hours trying to decipher Kierkegaard's metaphors seems trivial when I can just look up a summary on Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.7305968]

>>7305795
>philosophy
>It's a legitimate scientific field
wat

[Anonymous No.7306021]

>>7305811
Didn't post that, but pic related -- from the meditation thread.

>Meditation is enlightenment itself

[Anonymous No.7306040]

Indeed, philosophy can be very scientific. My favorite philosopher (pic related) employed empirical observation and rational thought in his rigorous analysis of modern dating culture.

[Anonymous No.7306047]

>>7306040
Winning post

[Anonymous No.7306114]

>>7305795
Because philosophy itself doesn't achieve much. Also, science? I guess if abstracted basic logic with varied precepts can be called science.

[Anonymous No.7306332]

>>7306040
such is the fate of analytic philosophers.

[Anonymous No.7306339]

>>7305795
>legitimate scientific field

you fucking moron

science is derived from philosophy, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.7306351]

>>7305795
People here hate philosophy because it's a science board--even though both can be arguably important, people who like to think about philosophical problems are usually just different from people who like physics problems. It's the same reason why most philosophers don't have very good abilities in physics (the carryover to math, esp foundations areas are better, but philosophers usually don't have good intuition for deep mathematics). People in one area usually like thinking about those types of problems, and even if they recognize the importance of another field they don't like thinking about it themselves (they leave it to the philosophers). Philosophy has very very little intersection with math and physics aside from foundations and metaphysical questions (which aren't questions >99% scientists care to think about). So when people come here making a new philosophy thread every few days, people get mad, especially because they usually involve people trying to discuss philosophy -- bout as fruitful as going on a philosophy board and trying to discuss with people the importance of quantum physics in philosophy (with no one talking in technical terms).

[Anonymous No.7306356]

>>7305795
Too abstract

[Anonymous No.7306381]

>>7305795
>legitimate scientific field
kek

No but seriously, science is what describes the world around us, like physics describes motion of particles, biology on how animals' insides work, chemistry on how molecules interact, etc
Philosophy is thinking about WHY these things are what they are, but they don't describe them the way hard scientific fields do.

So, philosophy is good and it makes you think in new ways, but it's not science.

[Anonymous No.7306385]

>>7305800
But if you can bait the baiter with counter-bait, things get interesting!

[Moose No.7306389]

>>7305818
Please don't direct philophags to our glorious funposting board. Post quality is very important to slut[s4s]ale.

[Moose No.7306395]

>>7306389
Eat a dick

[Anonymous No.7306401]

>>7306351
you post makes no sense to me.

philosophy is where every other science begins form, it's what every theory is, just philosophy corresponding to explain physical evidence.

every science is just building to the theory of everything which is the philosophy of everything.

Of course I follow philosophical thought not taught in many colleges, such as the freemasons and hermes trigustus, and these forbidden dark arts were the orginators of many of the worlds sciences.

As above, so below, speaks volumes on everything order related and matrix based

nothing is true everything is permitted, speaks volumes on everything chaos related and that relates to the subjective viewing of reality and some quantum mechanics.

Everything in the universe is order and chaos

so you see, real philosophy is the logical model we apply to our collective subjective experience of reality

philosophy is our "theory of everything".

[Anonymous No.7306402]

>>7306389
>>7306395
Moose, did you just respond to yourself? wtf you doing, man?

[Anonymous No.7306405]

>>7306401
therefore any philsopher whose philsophy carries any truth in it, should be able to easily and readily pick up any other discipline, as all things are interconnected and based upon certain fundamental laws that our logical minds seek in the search for "truth"

[Anonymous No.7306539]

>>7306405
Nope, you described math major.

[Anonymous No.7306912]

Philosophy failed to account for the diversity of life even though evolution and natural selection as Darwin described had been in plain sight.

The best philosophy has done:

"I doubt, therefore, I am a doubter."

[Anonymous No.7306945]

>>7305795
you must more live philosophically, than to learn philosophy.
-to live the good life
-to create new concepts

you will question thoughts, speeches and actions of every body, yours included.


>what are the difficulties/problems ?
>why are they difficulties/problems ?
>what are the solutions ?
>why are they solutions ?
>What are the necessities ?
>what are the sufficiences ?
>what are the causes ?
> what are the effects ?
>what are the means ?
>what are the goals ?

And it appears that, without even discussing the solutions nor the logics and motivations of the causes and the effects, most of the problems that people discuss IRL or in their books, are vapid, incomplete, foreign.

To learn philosophy is to learn why such or such philosopher created such and such concepts against such and such problems.

[Anonymous No.7307206]

>>7305795
Philosophy is science in the same way as working at a strip mine is technology R&D.

[Anonymous No.7307231]

>>7305795
Philosophy is nearer to psychology. The antique author consider philosophy as cure for soul.

[Anonymous No.7307392]

1)technology(science),philosophy,politics should be on the same level in order to have the society that the majority of the citizens dream of.and capitalism won't survive because of the big height difference between technology and philosophy ,just as the ancient greek democracy didn't because of the opposite height difference
2)philosophy is the connection link not only between the cosmos of the five senses and the real world(don't react to the phrase real world,you will be predictable faggots) ,but also between the citizen and democracy ,which seeks of the society not only to support elections and same shit,but mainly a particular way of life(a life philosophy)
3)people nowadays hate philosophy because we live in the times of a materialistic world that wants to describe everything as practical and "on earth" as possible ,in the name of productivity and not effectiveness
4)there are different kinds of philosophy.you are describing metaphysics

[Anonymous No.7308038]

>>7306401
science is philosophy we just finally got good answers to.

[Anonymous No.7308063]

>>7305804

> think they are enlightened because they memorized what others did or said

I don't know anon... there are a lot of math and physics grads on here that act the same way.

[Anonymous No.7308065]

>>7306040
Fucking KEK

[Anonymous No.7308071]

Philosophy has its place in science. It serves us when we have little else to go on. What is M Theory but philosophy? We have to use philosophy to imagine things we cannot perceive with our current technology and understanding.

[Anonymous No.7308073]

>>7306912
>"I doubt, therefore, I am a doubter."

but that's wrong. I doubt, but am not a doubter.
that's right. for you see, when I use a word, it means whatever I want it to mean.

[Anonymous No.7308353]

>>7308073
>am not a doubter
>am not, am not, am not
Yes, you are.

[Anonymous No.7309733]

All good philosophy is no longer philosophy.