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Dear /sci/,
I came across a section of reality today.
It made some sense but was little help to the problem: what the future is.
>The section goes as follows
Why is instant not the future?

>> No.7299894

It's the past because by the time it registers in your brain, it already happened.

>> No.7299980

>>7299894
I don't understand what you're referring to

>> No.7299982

I would say that in order to see what the future is you would need to see just what time is. Time is considered to be the direction of entropy, so the past would be disorder that was already created. I'm sure you could conclude what exactly the future is from that.

>> No.7300039

bump for interest

>> No.7300126

>>7300039
Here's a link to the /lit/ thread
>>>/lit/6620115
not very lively but I'm hoping for some good results

>> No.7300153

Inflation (or the universe as we know it) is time-reversed collapse of space time (or a black hole)

There is no instant

>> No.7300161

>>7299889
The same reason zero isn't a actually number. Zero is a null count and so is an instant, or rather it is a non-existent amount of time. Adding an instant to the present, or adding no time to the present, would not put you into the future. It would put you at the present.

>> No.7300176

Why do we perceive a present if there is nothing to suggest there is any such thing?

>> No.7300193

>>7300176
>Jaden Smith, go to bed already!
"The present" is an abstract concept shared among individuals. Its point is to allow us to interact. Without "the present" to act as a point of reference we would not be able to share ideas. "That apple is red!" "which apple?" "The apple that is here with us in this moment."

>> No.7300194

>direction of entropy
>time-reversed collapse of space time
>>7300176
It's our perception of inflation.

>> No.7300259

>>7299982
The past is ordered. The universe is moving towards a state of maximum entropy.

Come on

>> No.7300288

>>7300259
The past was more ordered than the future is. That doesn't mean that it's completely ordered.

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>>7299982
But that's assuming that the pre past was ordered enough to determine disorder possible without deletion or irrevocable and complete chaos, which isn't the case in the known universe- BUT! in such a place, order outside of order, there could be considered to be such a thing as chaos because chaos is singular(and you can quote me on that haha).

>>7300259
Maximum state of entropy is impossible if you look at the plank constant and assume photons were not there to negotiate such ambivalence between masses

>>7300288 >>7300259
The past being ordered is inherently flawed as as its being it's being overtaken by a barrage of smaller and smaller principles which emerge as the present, but not instantly

>inb4 someone realizes the future doesn't exist and we're all literally on treadmills

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>> No.7302436

>>7300288
That's not true, the closer we get to what we perceive as the beginning of time the more disordered the universe becomes. We are actually moving towards a more ordered universe.
This is why people believe in the holographic principle.