Grad Student Gripes

[Anonymous No.7295326]

>tfw grading homework assignments
>instructions were simple, prove this in a specific way
>get to this paper
>did it the opposite way
>wrote proven
>I love math :)

Why do these fucking people exist?

[Anonymous No.7295335]

I remember this thread from some months ago. You are wrong on this, sorry. You can prove an equation in either direction in this case, stop being autistic.

[Anonymous No.7295340]

>>7295335
Yes, I realize that, but I wanted him, and everyone else, to do it the harder way.

[Anonymous No.7295344]

>>7295326
Holy shit you are retarded. If the student can do it in reverse than obviously he can prove it the other way around.
What an asshole of a TA.

[Anonymous No.7295345]

>>7295340
Why?

[Anonymous No.7295348]

>>7295344
I realize that, but he disobeyed my instructions and decided to do it the easy way.

[Anonymous No.7295351]

>>7295345
So that he can do it easier in the future.

[Moose No.7295356]

>>7295340
>Be neater
>I wanted him, and everyone else, to do it the harder way.
>he disobeyed my instructions

Wow you are a massive faggot.
I bet you've got no less than 3 cocks inside you at this very moment.

[Anonymous No.7295358]

>>7295356
>I bet you've got no less than 3 cocks inside you at this very moment.
You want to join the fun anon?

[Anonymous No.7295359]

>>7295326
tbh OP you seem like an asshole. Why force the student to do it a different way if they end up with the same answer? Some people find certain processes easier to follow than others.

[Anonymous No.7295366]

>>7295326
oh wow, what shit tier uni are you a TA at?

[Anonymous No.7295376]

>>7295366
Look you're not getting it. I gave the student explicit instructions and he didn't follow them. He was in the wrong, not me.

I also told the professor that the student had plagiarized the answer and had him removed from the class. He needs to learn (and hopefully he did) that if he can't follow instructions, then he'll fail in the real world.

[Moose No.7295379]

>>7295358
I am an Engineer :^)

[Anonymous No.7295380]

>>7295376
you got me m8

[Anonymous No.7295387]

>>7295376
you got me. dammit

[Anonymous No.7295398]

>>7295326
>tfw supervisor is rigorous to the point of obsession
>do 12-14 hour days all week to make about 50 graphs for some conference he's going to
>meet today, thinking it's all finished and I'll finally have some free time
>he wants more fucking graphs
>not even needed for the conference, he just wants to know every possible config of our system so he'll know the answer to any possible question he'll be asked
>stay late to try and finish them so I can enjoy my weekend
>miss last train home, stuck in uni
>now 4:25am
>still haven't finished these fucking graphs
>wasting time posting on 4chan
>what am I doing with my life?

[Anonymous No.7295399]

>>7295380
Alright glad I could get through to you.

I mean damn, when you think about it, these people are becoming more and more common. Society is going to fucking collapse at this rate thanks to these better-than-thou millennials. I hate this world.

[Anonymous No.7295400]

>>7295376

[Anonymous No.7295401]

>>7295380
>>7295387
That guy isn't me, but I did tell the professor about it and he trusted my advice and gave the kid a zero for it.

I asked him to end up with a specific answer. He gave me the wrong one. End of story,

[Anonymous No.7295403]

>>7295401
you must attend a shit tier uni

[Anonymous No.7295406]

>>7295403
I'm at Kansas State, it's actually pretty damn good and has a rigorous history with physical science.

[Anonymous No.7295416]

>>7295398
Oh ... I've got an idea. Have you considered not doing that?

[Anonymous No.7295419]

>>7295406
lol

[Anonymous No.7295421]

>>7295416
...
no

[Anonymous No.7295427]

>>7295419
What's so funny faggot?

[Anonymous No.7295429]

>>7295427
something something stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.7295431]

>>7295421
Oh, well then have you considered suicide? You should.

[Anonymous No.7295435]

>>7295431
FUCK YOU TOO M8

[Anonymous No.7295436]

>>7295429
Lol, I chose this school out of the hundreds upon hundreds that there are for a reason.

You obviously no nothing about our programs.

[Anonymous No.7295441]

>>7295436
:^)

[Anonymous No.7295445]

>>7295436
there's at least one state university adjacent to Kansas with better programs in pretty much everything.

[Anonymous No.7295450]

>>7295445
And what would that be?

https://www.phys.ksu.edu/achievements/index.html

[Anonymous No.7295455]

>>7295450
The University of Alaska Fairbanks.

[Anonymous No.7295460]

>>7295326
>>7295335
>>7295340
practically called out as pasta in the first post

either way not /sci/

[Anonymous No.7295465]

>>7295406
hahahahahah

[Anonymous No.7295466]

>>7295450
That's by far the most pathetic list of things associated with a department I've ever seen. Why would a department put that on their websites?

[Anonymous No.7295467]

>>7295455
>adjacent to KS
lol nice

[Anonymous No.7295470]

>>7295460
>pasta
Lol that Freudian slip. I think you have food on the brain.
>>/ck/
>

[Anonymous No.7295476]

>>7295466
>Neutrino Detection: Herald Kruse (Physics, MS 1952) was a member of the famous Reines-Cowan team who discovered the electron neutrino. Herald Kruse began work on this project as a K-State Physics graduate student.

Yeah, so pathetic!

[Anonymous No.7295492]

>>7295450
compare to, say, the University of Colorado.

[Anonymous No.7295494]

>KSU

[Anonymous No.7295495]

>>7295492
which one?

[Anonymous No.7295499]

>>7295495
as it happens, CU has a demonstrably better physics program than K-State. So does CSU, so it <span class="math">doesn't[/spoiler] <span class="math">matter[/spoiler] <span class="math">which[/spoiler] <span class="math">one[/spoiler].

[Anonymous No.7295502]

>>7295499
Not OP, but what's the best non private school for physics/astronomy?

[Anonymous No.7295504]

>>7295494
What the fuck is wrong with KSU nigger? My mother's side of the family has gone there for the past 100 years, my grandfather especially is a fucking genius mathematician that got hired by boeing to be a top engineer for them at 19, he also invented the seating style movie theaters use so everyone can see the screen

[Anonymous No.7295508]

>>7295502

[Anonymous No.7295510]

>>7295504
>muh heritage

[Anonymous No.7295513]

>>7295504
yup u belong there lol

[Anonymous No.7295514]

>>7295510
And? What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.7295518]

>>7295514
having family history with a school doesn't make that school good. It implies that the school has been around for a long time, but there are plenty of shitty things that last a long time.

[Anonymous No.7295520]

>>7295508
>almost all of them are private, expensive schools
Fuck my life.

[Anonymous No.7295522]

>>7295518
Well, I'm already 4 years in here. Graduated a year early and now I'm a grad student.

Are you telling me I'm fucked or something? I've been having a great time and learning so much.

[Anonymous No.7295526]

>>7295522
So keep having fun and learning, but don't get ahead of yourself and start saying shit like
>I chose this school out of the hundreds upon hundreds that there are for a reason.
when that "reason" is "my family has been here for a long time and I'm afraid of breaking tradition."

I'm not telling you you're fucked, I'm telling you that there are better academic programs. There are also worse academic programs. Don't let your head get big, and those facts won't hurt your feelings.

[Anonymous No.7295528]

>>7295526
I just want to be successful, I don't want to live a lavish life of luxury but I don't want to have to struggle to get food on my plate ;_;

Do you think I can do that with education from KSU?

[Anonymous No.7295534]

>>7295528
You could do that with self-education and hard work. "Success" is a matter of chance. Why are you begging for validation from a stranger on the Internet who insulted you earlier tonight?

[Anonymous No.7295536]

>>7295534
Because I have autism and sometimes worry about every single little thing not working out the way I have planned in my head

and also because this is a troll thread I made from some pasta I remembered months ago and was bored, and remembered that I'm 19, unemployed, and not in college yet.

well, I was last semester, but had to leave, and now im not sure if I can ever get into college again

my life is fucked probably, and the only thing keeping me going is hope and this board since its what I love the most, physics

[Anonymous No.7295551]

>>7295326
reminds me of calc 3 the awesome professor I had
I didn't get vector calc, it just didn't make any sense to me. So I used dimensional compression and expansion with trig to solve the questions from what I had learned in high school. Took about 10 times the amount of paper, but I completely understood it and could do it lighting fast.

He pulls me aside and asks me what the hell am I doing. I explain that I didn't understand his method so I used one I just made up. He got angry and gave me a challenge pop quiz, that I annihilated getting every thing correct in recorded time. He looked it over very carefully asking me to explain each step despite the level detail I had shown. After him grilling me he acknowledged that my math was sound and he would pass me, but only if I got 100%. So I got a 100% using my method and he passed me.

So many other math teacher would fail me because I did do it their way. I still don't really get calc, but I can solve every problem I have been given with the first chapter of calc and a lot of algebra.


OP, you do realize that by forcing people to only use one method you are destroying the creative minds that get thing done with perfectly valid alternatives. I hate to be so rude, but the phrase "you are the cancer" comes to mind with you.

[Anonymous No.7295566]

>>7295536
you do know that pretty much no physics or science goes down on this board at all, and, ignoring that, you're a 19 year old college dropout and assuming you haven't been spending 20 hours a week self studying physics since you graduated highschool, probably don't know shit about physics

your life being fucked is a self fulfilling prophecy and if you love physics the most, as you say you do, then gtfo of here and go learn physics

[Anonymous No.7295577]

>>7295566
I didn't drop out, I was forced to leave because of something really embarrassing.

And I've encountered plenty of worthwhile discussion going on here.

[Anonymous No.7295593]

>>7295326
LOL. These are trig identities that literally have no fucking practical use beyond Pre-Cal. Get a hold over yourself OP. You're probably mad about the countless people that are better than you at math that will actually go on and do significant things in mathematics while you sit at home bitching about hopeful mathematics majors on a Asian image board.

Go fucking kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.7295596]

>>7295577
>something really embarrassing
Story time

[Anonymous No.7295599]

>>7295551
lmao, you tell your tale like it's anything good.

the prof is trying to teach you something, smartass. you're there to learn. you're supposed to understand, not try to get "creative" and make shortcuts

[Anonymous No.7295600]

>>7295596
Without revealing too much about myself, I basically made a fucking shooting threat against my school in an extremely impulsive decision when I was tired as fuck in the morning. I deleted it in like 30 seconds when I realized what the fuck happened but it was too late.

Yes, I know that was fucking stupid. I have no fucking idea why the hell I did that.

and now here comes the

>autist
>lol retard
>fucking idiot
>lmao get rekt moron
>etc

[Anonymous No.7295601]

>>7295551
>I'm a special snowflake too mommy!!

Yeah I'm sure you can use Stokes' Theorem with algebra and trig identies

[Anonymous No.7295604]

>>7295600
You're not actually autistic, you're just an attention whore.

[Anonymous No.7295608]

>>7295604
I didn't even want attention, I legit have no idea why the fuck I did that.

My own theory is it was because of the navy seal copypasta, but that's another rather embarrassing story.

[Anonymous No.7295610]

>>7295577
physics isn't about shit tier discussion its about theories with applicable testable predictions so get off your fucking ass and learn proper physics.

[Anonymous No.7295611]

>>7295610
I know it's more than just discussion cool things with above average intelligent people on a mongolian claymation website.

I try to teach myself things when I can. It's hard for me to find some motivation to after everything that's happened.

[Anonymous No.7295615]

>>7295551
just so you're aware without understand the concept behind what you're doing properly you won't be able to expand on your ideas at all. IE if you don't learn what the prof is trying to teach you won't be able to do higher level maths.

What field are you looking to get into?

[Anonymous No.7295632]

lol what a retard

[Anonymous No.7295639]

this is pasta.

If the guy were actually a grad student he'd be complaining about something new instead of still obsessively complaining about the same single piece of homework from one student submitted months ago

[Anonymous No.7295770]

>Be instructor for an optimization and variational calculus course
>Administration wants me to try out digital assignment submissions
>Can't write comments because I don't have a pad
>Class full of engineers
>Half the class fail the first assignment that uses an extremely rudimentary analysis concept
>PhD candidacy coming up
Fuck.

[Anonymous No.7295779]

Not knocking on KSU in any way but why does this page exist:

https://www.phys.ksu.edu/main/bragging-rights.html

?

[Anonymous No.7295780]

>>7295450
m8...

[Anonymous No.7295782]

>>7295779
Why not?

[Anonymous No.7295784]

>>7295599
The math is valid and works. I honestly tried very hard to understand calc, but I after trying for three years I gave up as I have been able to solve all the problem I find with just my basic understanding. Also it is not a shortcut, it adds like 60 steps to every problem, I have just gotten very good at doing it that way.

>>7295601
Well I do also use limits and the fundamental theorem of calculus, but yes I solve them without the standard Stokes' Theorem equations as I don't understand them. So I do it using mostly algebra, it works very well despite taking about 30 pages of paper.

>>7295615
I understand the argument of learning other ways of doing things, which is why I tried so hard to understand it. But you are wrong on the other count, I passed Differential Equations using the same tactic. When that happened I had to have a long talk with the math dean. She was all excited after she stopped telling me I was wrong and started listening as she thought I had found something new. But after she looked it over more carefully she said the approach was novel but not new or revolutionary, but that I had a good understanding of math a should be allowed to pass if I keep doing good.

Metallurgy, I have had no problems with my graduate research in shape shifting alloys.

[Anonymous No.7295785]

>KSU
really, i would wager most if not all of /sci/ attend better unis lad

[Anonymous No.7295787]

>>7295785
I got to penn valley lol

[Anonymous No.7295791]

>>7295782
I can understand their reasoning. Seems like it is a smaller department and they want to display how successful their funding is relative to their size and compared to other larger institutions. Also, they want to display they have bright students that won prestigious awards and scholarships. I haven't typically came across anything like this on any other departmental websites... that's all. Nothing bad.

[Anonymous No.7295792]

>>7295785

I go to MIT (Madras Institute of Technology), am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.7295797]

>>7295785
University of Munich here. Can confirm.

[Anonymous No.7295801]

Whatever this building is on campus looks nice

[Anonymous No.7295810]

>>7295520
hey here's an idea, how about you nut up, get a loan, and deal with the debt for a bit? you'll pay it off in time if you don't dick around after attending and end up with a good job.

[Anonymous No.7295823]

>>7295810
>over 100k of debt
Nigger, are you fucking insane?

[Anonymous No.7295837]

>>7295504
>invented the seating style movie theaters use

I'm pretty sure that seating style was introduced by Wagner in his Bayreuth opera house. And he in turn was inspired by the greeks, who had these things called "amphitheaters", you know.

Fun fact: Wagner was also first with hiding away the orchestra in a ditch, so that the audience would focus on the performance. His opera house was in many ways the precursor to our modern movie theaters.

[Anonymous No.7295841]

>>7295504 #
>invented the seating style movie theaters use

I'm pretty sure that seating style was introduced by Wagner in his Bayreuth opera house. And he in turn was inspired by the greeks, who had these things called "amphitheaters", you know.

Fun fact: Wagner was also first with hiding away the orchestra in a ditch and dimming the lights, so that the audience would focus on the performance. His opera house was in many ways the precursor to our modern movie theaters.

[Anonymous No.7295844]

>>7295841
Fun fact: Wagner hated the jews.

[Anonymous No.7295846]

>>7295841
fun fact: I read your initial reply (before you deleted it) and ran wild with what it meant for Wagner hiding in a ditch.

[Anonymous No.7295851]

>>7295844
Yeah he wrote these faggy pamphlets all about it. He was basically one of the first /pol/-tards.

>>7295846
I just wanted to add the "dimming the lights" tidbit. It's pretty interesting how Wagner's vision of making a "total work of art" basically made him build the first cinema in the world.

[Anonymous No.7295853]

not this fucking thread again

[Anonymous No.7295869]

>>7295326
>sec

[Anonymous No.7295870]

>>7295770
what was the analysis concept they fucked up?
GL with your PhD candidacy

[Anonymous No.7295871]

>>7295869
Do you not know what secant is?

[Anonymous No.7295875]

>>7295870
Continuity and FTC.
Thanks mate.

[Anonymous No.7295880]

OP, there is ALWAYS hope.

Yes, people here are brutally honest, for good reason too.

But coming here for advice is still generally a bad idea.

Anons here don't know everything about you, every single little circumstance, and you can't possibly hope you describe it all to them.

You seem like a nice guy, and you do seem to be intelligent. So don't give up. Do whatever it takes. FIGHT your ass off.

It's not true that no college will take you, you can fight it and prove to them. Many people have been there. Many people have done bad shit and got into college.

It'll be okay OP.

[Anonymous No.7295890]

Man I always wonder what my old TA's would think if they saw me now. I really wish I could show them how I actually managed to get my shit together and end up excelling at the really hard courses. For all they know I'm still a worthless plagiarizing undergrad barely passing by. Especially I'd like to show the ones that actually cared that the shittiest dumbest undergrad can in fact get his shit together, making the effort worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.7295968]

>>7295340
That's as dumb as common core maths

[Anonymous No.7296017]

>>7295476
>cherry picking arguments

[Anonymous No.7296029]

>>7295871
No, we use 1/cos or 1/sin

[Anonymous No.7296041]

>>7296029
Same difference.

[Anonymous No.7296087]

>>7295326
This was a terrible thread then and it will be a terrible thread now, just let this go, you were wrong and he was a fag who failed baby calc.

[Anonymous No.7296102]

>>7295797
TUM or LMU ?

[Anonymous No.7296423]

>>7295376
They removed just like that? You didn't have to show that he did plagiarize? No university hearing? If you just lie and kick kids out when they don't do things as you like them done you seem like a tyrant. You shouldn't be an educator and you hardly are.

[Anonymous No.7296425]

>>7295401
That seems fair. I hope the proof wasn't worth much of the grade.

[Anonymous No.7296981]

>>7295823
>implying you won't pay if off over time with the money you'll be making at the JOB you'll get after getting a degree from the uni
are you fucking insane? the amount may seem daunting initially, but if you're not retarded, then you'll be able to handle it divide up your finances in an appropriate manner

[Anonymous No.7297347]

>>7296102
LMU