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In the Fall I'm taking:

Discrete Math
Data Structures
Calculus II
University Physics I

Is this too hard of a course load?

/fall semester general/

>> No.7274496 [DELETED] 

>>7274489
that is senior level high school/freshman level schedule that a 17-18 year old takes so no

>> No.7274502

>>7274496
take that back didn't even read it

yes it is too much

easiest will be discrete math, hardest will be physics, calc ii and data structures

>> No.7274507

>>7274489
Not at all, this is all basically work-hard do well classes that require very little analytical thinking. remember that if you are anybody you will find Physics 1 and Calc II piss easy

>> No.7274509

That's only four classes m8.

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>>7274489
>Discrete Math
You have to be mentally ill to find this difficult
>Data Structures
Piss easy
>Calculus II
Trivial
>University Physics I
Plug and chug

>> No.7274557

>>7274489
Is 2 Graduate courses too much for an undergrad? Mathematics major here. The undergrad equivalents seem too basic.

>> No.7274558

Yes, for a retard like you the normal first semester schedule will be too hard. I'd recommend dropping out.

>> No.7274563

If you have a job. If you don't have a job then no.

>> No.7274594

>>7274489
>In the Fall I'm taking:
My life.

>> No.7274596

>>7274594
rip

>> No.7274614

>>7274594
Do you want me to let rip a stinker in your memory fam?

>> No.7274705

>>7274540
>That pic

Is this serious?

>> No.7274715

>>7274489
Discrete math will probably be an intro to proofs course, which means it will be really easy if you get it and impossible if you don't.

Data structures isn't hard but it's a very big time investment. You will have to implement a bunch of algorithms and data structures in probably java (because muh intro to OOP). Some of these will be easy to fuck up and easy to implement in a fucked up ass backwards (really difficult) way unless you notice the trick that makes them easy.

Calculus II will be a lot of series, sequences, and integrals. It is the least fun and most difficult of the calc courses but still fairly easy and doable if you're good at math.

University physics no idea, probably has labs and shit. Might be a time sink.

All in all I'd say it's doable if you're good at math and already have some good programming fundamentals.

>> No.7274720

>>7274489
Calc II
Uni physics I
Japanese culture class (too easy)
conversational jap II (I have language issues, so this is gonna be as hard as last semester's jap course)
No more gen eds after this. Fuck those classes.

>> No.7274723

>>7274489
CS major detected. Please go back to >>>/g/

>> No.7274729

>>7274720
Weeb/10

>> No.7274732

>>7274729
I know... I should have taken German instead. More physics opportunities in Europe.

>> No.7274735

>>7274489

Where is that building?

>> No.7274736

>>7274705

Why wouldn't it be. CS is on par with Business degrees in terms of difficulty

>> No.7274739

>>7274736
Sounds like someone is bitter that CS people are flooding into homotopy type theory.

>> No.7274740

>>7274489
Sophomore?

Physics should be a cake walk because more than likely its not calculus based physics or very little calc.

The other three really depend on if you get it or not.

Data structures should be the easy if you get it. If you understand how to do a basic linked list everything else in the class should be easy.

Calc 2 will not be easy unless your prof is a dumbass and gives you the simple problems since they are a dumbass and dont understand it either. You will have to put in work.

Discrete Math has the potential to be the easiest or the hardest class depending on what is covered and if you can grasp proof writing. Discrete math is totally open ended and at some places it is left up to the prof on what topics they want to give more focus to.

Its not too hard but it will require a decent amount of work if you want A's

>> No.7274744

>>7274739
>confusing graduate and undergrad cs

laughing_whores.png.js

>> No.7274760

>>7274489
I had this same schedule for this spring but with gen. chem 2 instead of data structures
calc/discrete is easy but physics can be hard depending on who you are and who your teacher is
also, people say data structures is easy at my school

in the fall I have calc 3, linear algebra, java, and japanese

>> No.7274821

>>7274736
Whats up with this "CS is easy" shitposting? Do you honestly think compilers, operating systems, or algorithms is on par with business courses? Really?

>> No.7274852

hahahha your so fucked .

>> No.7274858

>>7274489

> Only 4 classes.

You'll be fine.

>> No.7274863

>>7274489
I'm taking
>Intro to Guantum Mechanics
>Spectroscopy of Triple Integrals
>Magnets
>Advanced Vaginal Studies
get at me

>> No.7274867

I don't mean to hijack this, but quick question: which is easier, Calc 1 or Discrete math? The college I'm at has Discrete at 300 level and Calc at 200s. I was always under the impression that Discrete was easy, or am I wrong?

>> No.7274870

>>7274705
Welcome to /sci/.

>> No.7274871

>>7274557
No. You should be taking mostly graduate level courses after your first or second year if you want to get anywhere in pure mathematics.

>> No.7274882

I took

Calculus 2
Chemistry 2
Matlab course
French 3
Calculus based Physics 1

Really not that hard

>> No.7274884

i've got
honors analysis (first half of baby rudin course)
honors algebra (artin course)
linear optimization
information and databases
analysis of algorithms

r8

>> No.7274889

>>7274884
Sounds like a good first semester schedule

>> No.7274891

>>7274889
tbh that's what i think as well

>> No.7274901

>>7274489
God no, not unless you're working.

>> No.7274908

>>7274884
>linear optimization
>information and databases
>analysis of algorithms

Why are you wasting your time (and money)?

>> No.7274910

>>7274821
>Muh dragon book
>Muh dino book
>Muh CLRS

Those courses are as easy as high school classes.

>> No.7274919
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>>7274821

What's up with all these CS majors who can't gauge how easy their shit is.

>> No.7274921

>>7274871
Thanks for the reassurance.
Topology 1 and Algebra 1 it is then.

>> No.7274922

>>7274910
>Muh spivak
>Muh artin
>Muh baby rudin

Those courses are as easy as high school classes.

>> No.7274923

>>7274736
It does seem like CS is being saturated with idiots who think they're gonna become the next Bill Gates.

>> No.7274924

>>7274922
I honestly think introductory real analysis and linear algebra are teachable to high school students.

>> No.7274928

>>7274921
>Topology 1
Is this algebraic topology? General topology is a freshman-sophmore level course, I though.

>>7274922
It's harder than CS.

>> No.7274929

>>7274870
I actually want to know how useful a degree in CS is. I've dabbled in programming but I never did anything too serious though.

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>>7274924

This

>>7274922

Spivak is middle school level

>> No.7274931

>>7274928
Yeah, we spend the first two weeks or so doing a quick review of general topology and then the rest of the semester is spent on algebraic topology.

Textbooks are Munkres' Topology and Dummit&Foote's Algebra

>> No.7274932

>>7274930
Why is there so much humanities on there?

>> No.7274936

>>7274931
I would get Bredon and also Bott/Tu for Algebraic Topology and Aluffi for algebra. I don't really like D&F that much.

>> No.7274938

>>7274930
Thats not doable. I tutored at a CC this year and some people came in needing help on long division. You're overestimating how smart kids are. Hint: Most people are dumb fucks.

>> No.7274939

>>7274921

What books do they use?

>> No.7274945

>>7274939
See >>7274931

>>7274936
Thanks for the recommendations, I'll definitely check them out. Any thoughts on Hatcher's Algebraic Topology? That's the other one that the professor recommended as a secondary source.

>> No.7274947

>>7274929

Employers (and CS grad schools) would much rather you get some other (STEM) degree and teach yourself the CS theory in your free time. CS degrees in even the best of schools teach next to nothing.

>> No.7274949

>>7274945
It's fine, standard book. I didn't look at it much, personally. I just really like the books I mentioned so I shill them on here sometimes. Different people like different books, though.

>> No.7274952

>>7274919
I'm not saying that CS is hard, but if you think CS is as easy as business you're an idiot.

Protip: The hardest math a business major will do is linear regression and long division.

>> No.7274958

>>7274867
>which is easier, Calc 1 or Discrete math

Both are insanely simple topics but discrete has easier coursework.

>> No.7274966

>>7274938

That's what they said about teaching everyone to read and write in the 19 century. It's the lack of trying/engagement and not the inherent ability of people that is holding our education system back.

https://www.ted.com/talks/james_flynn_why_our_iq_levels_are_higher_than_our_grandparents?language=en

>> No.7274980

>>7274947
I have heard similar things. Any recommendations on how to teach myself CS? I already know of codeacademy and Khan Academy. Well I gotta go now.

>>7274966
The Flynn effects seems to be more about improved education than anything else. But writing and reading is much easier that advanced mathematics.

>> No.7274981

>>7274863
>Advanced Vaginal Studies
I thought you were just making up courses until I got to this one

>> No.7274993

>>7274980
>Any recommendations on how to teach myself CS

http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Computer_Science_and_Engineering

>> No.7275003

>>7274980
>But writing and reading is much easier that advanced mathematics.

Every engineering undergrad ever says otherwise.

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>>7274952

Protip: The hardest math a CS major will do is induction and baby's first combinatorics

>> No.7275363

I'm taking numerical analysis , a class in algebraic number theory, and a grad class in algebraic geometry. Never has a class scared me as much as that last one.

>> No.7275369

Can someone tell me how bad of an idea it is to take Physics 2 & 3, Calc 3, Gen Chem, and some bullshit art history class in one semester?

>> No.7275377

>>7275369
Those are five classes, none higher than a sophomore level. You'll be fine.

>> No.7275399

I'm taking:
Algebra and number theory II (rings, fields, field extensions, introduction to Galois theory)
Complex analysis and integral transforms
Differential equations with modelling
Mathematics of uncertainty

next semester, how fucked am I?

>> No.7275405

>>7274921
I took Algebra 1 in middle school m8

>> No.7275408

-Mathematical Physics III (Probabilistic measure theory and applications to physics, has Papa Rudin and Royden as main references)

-Stat Mech

-Upper E&M (Griffiths/Jackson hybrid)

-Graduate class called "Gravitation and Cosmology", taught by a prof who was just hired

-Introduction to Research I - I'll be working on a project related to Observational Cosmology for the next two years. Also plan on filing for an undergrad grant to fund my research

How fucked am I?

>> No.7275411 [DELETED] 

>>7275369

>Can someone tell me how bad of an idea it is to take Physics 2 & 3, Calc 3, Gen Chem

It's pretty easy and on the light side for a STEM course load. Take Linear Algebra too if you're in a rush to knock out prerequisites.

>Physics 2 & 3
>&

How did you pull that off? I tried that once and was denied...

>bullshit art history class

Drop it and take a real history class or some other interesting humanities course. Don't take classes you won't learn anything in. That's just stupid

>> No.7275439

>>7275408
That definitely sounds like a tough semester.

>> No.7275442

>>7275399
You're gonna be ok

>> No.7275451

3rd year math major here

>Intro to Analysis
>Intro to Abstract Algebra
>Java Programming (pt 2/3)
>Event Driven Programming
>small research project related to one of the above

Considering I just finished a semester with 5 STEM classes plus 2 labs, I think I'll be okay. I am a tad worried because I haven't touched a proof in over a year, so these math classes should be fun.

>> No.7275454

>>7275408

That sounds really fun. I think you'll enjoy it.

>> No.7275459

>>7275451
>>Java Programming (pt 2/3)

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.7275464

I'm a CS major because I find AI interesting and software dev pays really well


and yes 90% of the people in my major are retarded

>> No.7275479

>>7274871
It should also be warned that "all graduate level courses" at some schools doesn't necessarily mean 4-5 graduate level courses every semester, but 3-4. I know at my PhD Program (ranked in top 15 by US news), if you took 2 of the first year graduate level courses as well as three upper level mth courses to have five courses, you would be doing problem sets all day every day. My fellow grad students who needed to take first year courses took 4 courses the first semester and were doing problem sets for AT LEAST 30-40 hours a week.

>> No.7275485

>>7274871
This just isn't true. A lot of people start slower and do fine in pure math. I didn't take any graduate level classes till grad school (my undergrad school didnt have a grad program). The only graduate material I knew when I went to my phD program was graduate real analysis (most of the material in folland) and smooth manifolds (all of the material in Lee). I still turned out fine and have a good job as a postdoc now. There are plenty who entered my program with way more experience (one person read and understood the proof of the atiyah-singer index theorem in sophomore year) who landed worse positions than I.

When Mike freedman went to princeton, he did not know a good deal of standard graduate material (but he was undoubtedly a genius who had some deep and original thoughts about what he did know). It's true that you should try taking graduate level course ASAP, but don't discourage people who haven't had that opportunity but are working as hard as they can via reading books, independent studies, etc.

>> No.7275495

>>7275003
How would they know? engineering undergrads dont learn any advanced mathematics.

>>7274945
hatcher's the standard book. Those who don't like it are usually good enough to find it too wordy and chatty at times, but it's terrific to learn from. Later in life, pick up JP May's A concise course in algebraic topology. Tom Diecks new book is around Hatchers level but with a more sophisticated presentation imo but it's too huge for me to like.

>>7274936
Idk if someone who's just taking a topology course which starts with munkres is ready for bott and tu. That is my favorite math book of all time though. Second the Bredon suggestion.

>> No.7275509

>>7274921
Do you go to stony brook? Because the classes/books used sounds like the stony brook graduate core courses. I'm a PhD student there and let me tell you, depending on the professor you get, it could be a lot of homework, so be prepared. I didn't take most of them because I took the passed the comps (quals here) when I got here, but I've heard professors describe the homework load as "bordering on hazing." But like I said, it depends on the professor. If you are a stony brook student, Takhtajan will be teaching you algebra, and I've heard he gives a good deal of homework. Shouldn't let it scare you off, though. doing difficult problem sets can be very rewarding.

My schedule next semester:
Topics course on Kahler-Ricci Flow
Topics course on Index theorems for elliptic operators
Topics course on Symplectic topology/geometry

>> No.7275511

>>7275464
In my experience, shitty CS students are often weeded out by the time we get to Discrete Mathematics.

>> No.7275515

>>7275154
I'm a pure math major who happens to take a bunch of CS courses. My university offers a recursive function theory course and a category theory course at the undergrad level. They're two of like four courses that all CS majors have to take at least one of.

>> No.7275522

>>7274947
How is CS with a dual major?

>> No.7275545

>>7274489
rate (2nd year computer science - next semester's workload given i pass databases, discrete maths and graph theory, operating systems, and some wank info sys unit)

>Algorithms and Complexity
>Distributed Systems and Network Principles
>Systems Analysis and Modelling
I>ntroduction to IT Security

>> No.7275547

>>7275495
I think he means Munkres algebraic topology book since he said he's doing algebraic topology.

>> No.7275550

>>7275003
>Every engineering undergrad ever says otherwise

Maybe because they tend to be smarter than the average joe?

>> No.7275559

>>7274993
Thanks love

>> No.7275586

I dont know but, i'm in calc 4 and Discrete Maths has been a very difficult one for me

>> No.7275588

>>7274489
If you are motivated and keep things together it should not be too much.

>>7274502
Why do you do this? Do you even know the guy?