describe your studies

[Anonymous No.7242078]

[Anonymous No.7242079]

[Anonymous No.7242129]

>>7242078
You don't have to go to lectures if you find them boring. You can learn everything from books.

[Anonymous No.7242155]

[Anonymous No.7242187]

[Anonymous No.7242189]

>>7242187
aerospatial I assume?

[Anonymous No.7242245]

>>7242078
Please return to the land of your people.

>>>/g/tfo

[Anonymous No.7242296]

>>7242078
I'm not going to draw a stupid fucking picture, but here is mine:
What I studied: Math
What I expected: A board full of symbols, equations, and problems that I was constantly filling and erasing day after day, happily
What I got: Learning how to prove bullshit analysis concepts that I actually don't care about at all. Learning that most proofs are trivial after you see the "trick" to them, and that it is more like learning how to do a magic trick from a magician than actually learning on your own.

[Anonymous No.7242305]

>>7242078

[Anonymous No.7242307]

>>7242296
>Learning that most proofs are trivial after you see the "trick" to them, and that it is more like learning how to do a magic trick from a magician than actually learning on your own.
Then conjure a proof of Riemann's hypothesis please.

[Anonymous No.7242315]

>>7242307

You missed his point. I believe he means if you don't prove something yourself and just read another proof of a concept you aren't really gaining anything by just regurgitating the "trick", as he says, to that proof. The learning is to be gained in proving things yourself.

[Anonymous No.7242321]

>>7242079
Fixed.

[Anonymous No.7242328]

I didn't expect it to be like that at all. But it was still pretty fun to learn anyway.

[Anonymous No.7242333]

I worked hard on those pages just for this image. Not really. But I still worked hard on it.

[Anonymous No.7242342]

>>7242296
I hope not all of analysis is like that, but I know what you mean. As a physicist I've never had to take a proof-centric class (thank god), but my friends who have math majors have shown me enough for me to have a sense of that "magic trick" aspect.

[Anonymous No.7242362]

>>7242296
Everything is trivial if you know the "trick" to it.

The only reason you think maths is easy is because your uni is shit. Solve some unsolved problems and show us how easy maths is.

[Anonymous No.7242384]

>>7242296
>I'm not going to draw a stupid fucking picture, but here is mine
No, you have to play by the rules
reported

[Anonymous No.7242403]

[Anonymous No.7242409]

>>7242362
Nowhere did this guy say that math is easy. He's saying that learning math by memorizing proofs is bullshit. If anything, he's saying math is hard because there's no easy way to learn to solve problems for yourself.

[Anonymous No.7242434]

>>7242384
I felt bad so I made it for him.

[Anonymous No.7242472]

>>7242321
>fundamental theorem of calculus

[Anonymous No.7242474]

>>7242434
upvoted

[Anonymous No.7242489]

>>7242474
hey faggot

[Anonymous No.7242508]

[Anonymous No.7242514]

>>7242508
expected 300k starting, got gay sex?

[Anonymous No.7242529]

>>7242489
downvoted

[Anonymous No.7242532]

>>7242409
>he's saying math is hard because there's no easy way to learn to solve problems for yourself.

Well, that's true, but it's nothing you can complain about. If it's too hard, leave. Maths is not for everybody.

[Anonymous No.7242536]

>>7242489
There is no reason to get perturbed by the concepts of Lebegue-Measurable, measure space, or compactness. Shit, Lie algebras are nice too. Now what he should have put on that graph is some algebraic gobbledygook. You can't visualize that shit and often presentations of algebraic material make no effort to point out what the fundamental ideas are in any proof. They just hand you some mess of implications and say "this works" and it's up to you to unfuck it.

[Anonymous No.7242557]

>>7242536

Algebra belongs in the trash and its degenerate children belong in the trash.

[Anonymous No.7242572]

>>7242362
yeah, because harvard puts out students who solve unsolved problems in math every year....face it, the only things left to solve in math are solved only by freakishly intelligent superhumans (G. Perelman). Not saying research is bad, just solving unsolved problems is independent of your uni

[Anonymous No.7242577]

>>7242434
this would have been so much funnier if i didn't know lie algebra was a thing

[Anonymous No.7242581]

>>7242532
I hate that math requires taking extensive analysis, it doesn't come naturally, like applied maths like DEs or programming. analysis is so fucking esoteric that it makes my eyes bleed

[Anonymous No.7242600]

>>7242557
Amen. Grothendieck was right, math should be studied from the geometric side.

[Anonymous No.7242614]

>>7242577
Please tell me "Lie" is just someone's name, and has nothing to do with "untruth."

[Anonymous No.7242616]

[Anonymous No.7242619]

>>7242572
I'm not sure math is about "solving famously unsolved problems" anyway. There's still plenty of work to be done for trained mathematicians in fields like cryptography and error correcting codes, it's just not "sexy" like producing Fermat's Last Theorem or proving the Goldbach Conjecture.

[Anonymous No.7242628]

>>7242614
it's someones name

[Anonymous No.7242629]

>>7242616
>What I Studied
>Complex Analysis
>What I Expected
>Calculus
>What I Got
>Algebra

Seems fair.

[Anonymous No.7242633]

What I studied: Arts
What I expected: Intelligent Gentlemen discussing life.
What I got: The shittiest generation ever never shutting the fuck up in lectures.

[Anonymous No.7242642]

>>7242614
Yeah. It's pronounced "lee." He contributed studies of continuous symmetry which physicists dearly depend on. Turns out the set of symmetries of a physical system, and equivalently it's set of conservation laws, is a differentiable manifold with group structure. I'll figure that stuff out some day.

[Anonymous No.7242645]

>>7242629
you are an astute scholar, Sir
← some handy trig identities for you

[Anonymous No.7242654]

[Anonymous No.7242666]

>>7242642
>the set of symmetries of a physical system, and equivalently it's set of conservation laws
I almost understood that part! Conserved quantities change symmetrically so that they remain conserved. I have no idea what you're saying though. Never heard of this Lie guy. At least now I know how to pronounce it right.

[Anonymous No.7242724]

>>7242581
It does my head in now. I feel so stupid and I have to get through analysis and abstract algebra (groups and rings) before i graduate. All I want to do is applied maths now.

[Anonymous No.7242777]

>>7242315
Yeah, but I don't think that's true at all. I think you learn a whole lot by learning a "trick." Just not as much as if you did it yourself.

[Anonymous No.7242779]

>>7242572
That's just not true. Every PhD program puts out students who solve unsolved problems every year. That's what a fucking PhD thesis is.

[Anonymous No.7242786]

>>7242629
kek

[Anonymous No.7242830]

[Anonymous No.7242842]

>>7242830
Asian labmates?

[Anonymous No.7242844]

>>7242842
How can you tell they are Asian?

[Anonymous No.7242853]

>>7242642
This is false. Lie's focus was not on physics at all, but rather on differential topology and manifolds. Lie groups and their algebras are one of his constructions, and the fact that some physical theories have gauge groups with Lie algebra structures on them is mere coincidence.
The important theorem(s) to physicists in this respect is due to Noether, not Lie.

[Anonymous No.7242856]

>>7242830
I don't get how you expected 17th century alchemy from chemistry.

[Anonymous No.7242871]

>>7242328

What is that? Like solving optimization problems?

[Anonymous No.7242878]

[Anonymous No.7242887]

I don't know.
Sure fucking hope I get into medical school.

[Anonymous No.7242913]

>>7242853
Nothing in his post is false. Yours is a gross oversimplification. Lie's most important work was in trying to formulate a sort of Galois theory for differential equations, and in doing so he came up with continuous transformation groups, which later inspired the definition of a Lie group.

[Anonymous No.7242919]

>>7242913
His post implied that Lie was aiming for some sort of application of his theory to physics, which is not the case.

[Anonymous No.7242920]

>>7242871
yes thats a big part of machine learning. Different ways of optimizing different math models using given data.

[Anonymous No.7242923]

>>7242078

[Anonymous No.7242925]

>>7242923
>Mathematics
>Not slutty and whoring

[Anonymous No.7242926]

>>7242078

TUBE ENGINEERING

[Anonymous No.7242929]

>>7242078
soul crushing

[Anonymous No.7242930]

>>7242844
I've never seen a skinny black haired female chemist who wasn't asian. But I was just trying to guess what you could mean by the image you posted. Chinese-speaking labmates is one of the realities I hear chemistry students talking about a lot.

[Anonymous No.7242933]

>>7242853
>This is false.
So are you saying... it was a lie?

[Anonymous No.7242934]

>>7242878
What you got looks a lot more interesting to me than what you expected, which appears to be a very badly written powerpoint presentation.

[Anonymous No.7242938]

>>7242930
>>7242856
I expected alchemy I got science. I should have made it clearer.

[Anonymous No.7242940]

>>7242654
lel'd

[Anonymous No.7242941]

>>7242887
What the fuck is this diagramm about?

[Anonymous No.7242943]

>>7242941
pretty sure its something like the main branches of metabolism
>pic too big to attach
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~turk/bio_sim/articles/metabolic_pathways.png

[Anonymous No.7242946]

>>7242941
Looks like all the metabolic pathways.

[Anonymous No.7242949]

>>7242943
>>7242946
Thanks. And I thought pure math is complicated.

[Anonymous No.7242950]

>>7242949
The metabolic pathways are a bunch of bullshit memorization.

I took cell and molecular bio, and the professor took a class at UCSD(Univ Cal San Diego) Where they literally had to learn that entire chart in 10 weeks. 10% of it each week.

I only had to learn a few metabolic pathways for the class I took, and not even the names of the proteins involved. Jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.7242952]

>>7242950
Why not do computational biology? This sounds incredibly difficult, I don't have the stomach for it and that's why I steered away from the bio side of my chem degree

[Anonymous No.7242956]

>>7242950
On the school work level, it truly is a lot of memorization.

Still though, biological systems are super weird and awe-inspiring to study.

Ultimately it just boils down to physics, does it not?

[Anonymous No.7242972]

[Anonymous No.7242973]

>>7242654
Taking it right now (freshman Math major so basically no hard math for two years) but this is pretty accurate with the exception of Taylor Series.

[Anonymous No.7242982]

>>7242724
Holy shit. I am doing both these courses at my university right now and I feel the exact same way.

[Anonymous No.7243145]

[Anonymous No.7243218]

>What I'm studying
Aerospace Engineering
>What I expected
Rocket science
>What I got
Kerbal Space Program

[Anonymous No.7243237]

The amount of liberal indoctrination bullshit is unbelievable at times.

[Anonymous No.7243243]

>>7242633
you're in the wrong thread

[Anonymous No.7243244]

>>7242972
your only choice is being a professor for the same subject brah, you just need to keep going for a few more years to get your PhD

[Anonymous No.7243254]

>>7242557
Go away troll. Try doing anything nearly as complex as even calculus without algebra.

[Anonymous No.7243260]

>>7242557
Algebra has to be basically one of the least intuitive branches of maths I've ever studied, I didn't realise groups and rings were generalisations of our algebra until a year after studying algebra and group theory.

A fucking year.

And the god damn course is called algebra.

Meanwhile everyone shit themselves studying analysis and metric and hilbert spaces and I went to half the lectures and still managed to get honours in both.

tl;dr
Fuck algebra.

[Anonymous No.7243269]

>>7242933
Kek'd.

[Anonymous No.7243282]

>>7242933

[Anonymous No.7243283]

>>7242887
I know that feel

[Anonymous No.7243310]

It would have been ok if I didn't have to go outside, or do anything.

[Anonymous No.7243340]

[Anonymous No.7243356]

[Anonymous No.7243380]

>>7243237
Fun fact: people who major in criminology score the worst on the Law School Admissions Test.

[Anonymous No.7243382]

[Anonymous No.7243387]

>>7243382
>shodan
gold 10/10

[Anonymous No.7243394]

>>7242296
You missed the point of math.
Math is like dbz or other power level manga.
You start as a fucking useless peon, and every time you learn a new trick/theorem it's the equivalent of learning a new move/attack like kamehameha or kaioken.
Eventually you'll start to think you are good at math and try to read a "recent" math paper, then you understand that if you are yamcha, there are people who can be considered as Broly or Goku 5 currently living in the same world as you and breathing the same air.
At this point you either have the soul of a super hero and you train hard to one day beat them, or you say fuck it, I'll be an engineer/teacher.

Math is a real life power level manga.

[Anonymous No.7243396]

>>7243145
first year?

[Anonymous No.7243464]

>>7242078

[Anonymous No.7243503]

>>7243394
kek

[Anonymous No.7243527]

>>7242938
Really? I got the reverse
>expect rigorous analysis, even in the chill fields
>mostly just repeating things that "feel right"

[Anonymous No.7243534]

>>7242950
>Where they literally had to learn that entire chart in 10 weeks.
That's not that bad. Most of those pathways are pretty predictable, and besides, you shuold know it if you want to major in it. After all, that chart's only primary metabolism in its simplest form

[Anonymous No.7243535]

>>7243380
Fun fact, I'm studying criminology and crj for administrative applications into law enforcement, I'm not planning to be a lawyer.

[Anonymous No.7243536]

[Anonymous No.7243560]

>>7243396
Just finished second year. Apart from automata and dynamic programming, everything was trivial.

[Anonymous No.7243595]

[Anonymous No.7243598]

[Anonymous No.7243685]

>ITT: People getting misled
;_;

[Anonymous No.7243705]

>>7242305
> its just a bunch of formulas

how much do you think you learned about solving new problems?
also how much misc factors, such as uni and teacher contribute to that?

[Anonymous No.7243758]

[Anonymous No.7243763]

>>7242305
Oh you poor thing.

[Anonymous No.7243768]

[Anonymous No.7243794]

>>7243464
So you're saying what you got was better than what you expected, right?

You expected bitches and hos, and you got the secrets of the universe.

[Anonymous No.7243846]

>>7242078

[Anonymous No.7243855]

>>7243340
Even if you're not interested in a specific Engineering field you should still be able to get a job. Unless you completely suck at math and science.

[Anonymous No.7243864]

[Anonymous No.7243869]

>>7243855
The problem is that social isolation got me depressed and I can't do shit.

Most people here memorize and sort-of-learn-but-not-quite the material.
I can't do this, I must go cover to cover, and I don't because the workload would be huge this way.

Few weeks ago I decided to give up on courses for this semester and try to quit the internet, socialize and improve my physical health.
Did not achieve much tbh.

As for the degree title, I could do a semi-irrelevant MSci and fix it, but I don't know if I can afford it.

[Anonymous No.7243871]

>>7243864
electrical engineering sounds really boring

[Anonymous No.7243872]

>>7243869
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.7243875]

>>7243871
it really fucking is and deceptively boring.

sorry nikola tesla, I failed you.

[Anonymous No.7243887]

>>7243846
Solid State Physics gives me a hadron.

[Anonymous No.7243895]

>>7242938
>I expected alchemy
You just keep getting more confusing bud.

[Anonymous No.7243896]

>>7243875
idk dude
you could study computer engineering
it's like electrical engineering only +fun +robots and most important of all +dicks

[Anonymous No.7243907]

>>7243896
might as well go for robotics, I like playing around with arduino.

[Anonymous No.7243911]

>>7243864

electrical engineering is not only control engineering faggot

[Anonymous No.7243918]

>>7242926
Win

[Anonymous No.7243931]

>>7242078

[Anonymous No.7243956]

>>7242933
I like you

>>7242950
This shit is why I hated biology

>>7242972
So true

[Anonymous No.7243964]

>>7243864
looks fun

[Anonymous No.7243973]

>>7243145
>not testing out of intro to cs

[Anonymous No.7243976]

>>7243871
>laplace and fourier transform
>not fun
fucking stupid engineers
physics is the best

[Anonymous No.7243989]

[Anonymous No.7243998]

>>7243145
The fuck kind of shitty school do you go to?

So I can avoid it.

[Anonymous No.7244007]

>>7243145
>bubble sort

[Anonymous No.7244008]

>>7243989
Lol.

[Anonymous No.7244013]

>>7243536
I completely understand

[Anonymous No.7244041]

>>7243145

[Anonymous No.7244044]

[Anonymous No.7244054]

>>7243382
computer engineer here, all i've taken are EE classes so far, not one csc class

[Anonymous No.7244070]

Graduated and working now

Easy to get a job within the industry at the moment

[Anonymous No.7244077]

[Anonymous No.7244080]

only the BIGGEST of data

[Anonymous No.7244083]

>>7244070
kek at the letdown of that drill

[Anonymous No.7244084]

>>7243145
For me it's the other way around.

I wanted to be a software developer and learn about programming. 3 semesters of analysis, 2 of algebra, 4 of logic, a bunch of AI crap, years of algorithm courses and 20-40 year old classical shit (like OS theory, networks, architecture, compiler theory etc). Hell, I even had to learn 16 bit intel assembly, write a kernel and learn a bunch of useless functional shit like lisp, prolog, haskell.
And for what? So I can spend the next 40 years working as a Python/Java (or whatever comes afterwards) developer? It is so unnecessary to get an education to be a developer.

[Anonymous No.7244087]

>>7244084
>It is so unnecessary to get an education to be a developer.
And it took you 3 semesters of analysis, 2 of algebra and 4 of logic to realize this? That's basically

[Anonymous No.7244089]

>>7244083
kek

tbh that drill is quite impressive compared to the norm in the UK

>pic related is the most common drill used here

[Anonymous No.7244090]

>>7244087
Well, the alternative is to have every application automatically rejected because lol no degree you suck

[Anonymous No.7244094]

>>7244090
How about a trade school or a SE program?

[Anonymous No.7244096]

>>7243998
Hopefully it’s not in your country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_pr%C3%A9paratoire_aux_grandes_%C3%A9coles

[Anonymous No.7244099]

>>7244089
christ that brings levels of british shitness to new levels? what's the fanciest bit of kit you've got to use?

[Anonymous No.7244103]

>>7244089
>british_empire_2015.jpg

[Anonymous No.7244104]

>>7244099
I'm a geotechnical engineer so I dont really use any of that kit, we get uneducated drillers to use the machines.

Almost every driller I've met is missing a finger or some body part!

[Anonymous No.7244110]

>>7244104
sounds a bit rough. can see why you'd prefer not to be drilling!

[Anonymous No.7244114]

>>7244084
The reason you learn all that "classical shit" is to not only develop problem solving skills, but develop a holistic intuition of the entire field so you can solve "deeper" problems and add serious value to any company you decide to work for.

If you wanted a job as a developer or a "practical education", there are much easier ways to do it. You could've saved the tuition money by buying O'Reilly cookbooks and books on design patterns.

[Anonymous No.7244136]

[Anonymous No.7244142]

>>7243595
lel underrated post

[Anonymous No.7244148]

>>7244104
do the drillers make more money than you.

[Anonymous No.7244150]

>>7244136
Since when are math SJW invaded?

[Anonymous No.7244154]

>>7244136
bronies are in physics breh

[Numba One !iMmtcjSytQ No.7244159]

>>7243595
>>7242434
>>7242629

[Anonymous No.7244161]

>>7244136
looks like every STEM college club.

[Anonymous No.7244162]

>>7244154
I'm in physics and there actually are 2

[Anonymous No.7244163]

>>7244148
They make about the same as graduate geotech engineers (about £20-25,000 /year).

After that, the engineers make a lot more.

Drilling is mostly done by lower class people here.

[Anonymous No.7244165]

>>7244148

Drillers are done by Mexican for 15 dollars an hour.

[THE GOD MACHINE No.7244168]

Thread is 10/10
>>7242926
lel

[Anonymous No.7244174]

>>7242973
taylor series in calc II? have you done triple integrals?

[Numba One !iMmtcjSytQ No.7244177]

>>7244174
He's barely in calc 2. I didn't see triple until my last semester of undergrad

[Anonymous No.7244190]

What I studied: pure mathematics
What I expected: cool problems (I am an ex math olympiads participant)
What I got: boring problems, memorize theorems and their proofs

[Anonymous No.7244195]

>>7242296
>Learning that most proofs are trivial after you see the "trick" to them
Well the point is to understand proofs so well that they become trivial, yes, and how the "tricks" in them can be applied to solve new, more difficult, problems. Sorry real analysis wasn't the semester of triple integration wankfest you were expecting

[Anonymous No.7244200]

>>7244174

You learn intro to series in Calculus II. You get a taste of Divergence series, taylor and mclaurin series, p-series, etc. You learn Triple integrals in Calculus III.

[Anonymous No.7244202]

>>7243394
underrated post

[Anonymous No.7244206]

>>7242328
Lucky you.

[Anonymous No.7244207]

>>7244177
last semester of phd*

[Anonymous No.7244220]

[Anonymous No.7244228]

>>7243394
Underrated post.

[Anonymous No.7244234]

>>7244220
i should add that this is only meant for the lab work, theory is super fun.

[Anonymous No.7244235]

>>7243394
anon
you figured i tout
screen shott'd

[Anonymous No.7244290]

>>7243536
Lel

[Anonymous No.7244310]

>>7243310
I love micro-pipettes

[Anonymous No.7244322]

>>7244220
I laughed

[Anonymous No.7244326]

>>7243260
Hahahahahaha damn man. I don't know how that could happen but I believe you.

[Anonymous No.7244329]

>>7243394
This should definitely be reposted

[Anonymous No.7244333]

Mech Eng here

[Anonymous No.7244339]

>>7243598
computational chemistry?
How does that field look? I'm a mathfag with some cs and I've been thinking of going to something more hard science, how is the field?

[Anonymous No.7244346]

>>7243758
you mean actually wanted to be an itinerant drug addict? don't aim too high, man

[Anonymous No.7244391]

>>7244333
very true

[Anonymous No.7244407]

>>7244333
In highschool I was considering aerospace, but I'm glad I didn't go for it as I can only spend a finite amount of time staring at CAD models and simulation data.

[Anonymous No.7244413]

>study
Math
>expect
solve for x
>get
It's more than knowledge, it's truth

[Anonymous No.7244826]

>>7243560
>Just finished second year. Apart from automata and dynamic programming, everything was trivial.

Good to hear honestly. Most people I knew that had programming experience found the first two years are boring, but struggle with the next two. If you don't you might second guess your school selection

[Anonymous No.7244845]

>>7244094
>How about a trade school or a SE program?

Not him, but these haven't caught steam yet since, as of right now, they're shit. Not to mention, what >>7244084 is bullshit unless you're a code monkey. If you delve into anything even remotely difficult like hardcore optimization, operating systems, or simulations, you'll be fucked since that is largely where CS really picks up. The only people that could ever handle that shit (let alone shit themselves) and DIDN'T have a degree were those with more than ten years experience. 9 times outta 10 the people that claim CS education is worthless are those that haven't gotten anything more rigorous than the average code monkey gig, not even trolling.

As an aside, and speaking seriously for a moment, people with more than ten years experience are fucking wizards at this shit, it's insane.

[Anonymous No.7245079]

>>7244346
Erdos' bullshit inspired me when I was young. I loved math, so I liked the story of the guy who disregarded every other aspect of human existence and got away with it.

[Anonymous No.7245177]

>>7243394
>you start at the beginning
>the more work you put in the better you get
>somewhere in the world someone is orders of magnitude better than you and everyone else
Sounds like pretty much everything everywhere m8.

[Anonymous No.7245204]

>>7243394
anon approved

[Anonymous No.7245237]

>>7243595
good one

[Anonymous No.7245241]

>>7244333
I know that feel

[Anonymous No.7245259]

>>7243931
Should have gone the pharmacy route.

[Anonymous No.7245261]

>>7243973
>my college letting you test out of anything but prereqs
Seriously, if it's part of your major and you have a 4.0 A+ motherfucking mass publication honors paper towel faggot they're making you take the fucking class no matter what.

[Anonymous No.7245270]

>>7243864

As a math major I would be happy to handle those equations for you, but engineering programs are so #asspained that they don't let math into their programs for minors as they know we would wipe the floor with you on theory.

[Anonymous No.7245271]

>>7244206
On a note, if you don't have a good computer, don't do ML on a large scale.

[Anonymous No.7245272]

>>7242078
Biology
What I expected: Job as a scientist
What I got: unemployment

So now I'm about to start grad school to get a MS in biotechnology (1 year program) to seek an elusive job in the biotech industry.

I'm also studying for the LSAT to get into law school after that to become a Patent Attorney for big pharma because I dont know FUCK ALL WAHT TO DO WITH A BIO DEGREE.

FUCK I SHOULD HAVE GONE INTO BIOMEDICaL ENGINEERING INSTEAD I'm FUCKIN 24 YEARS OLD FUCK WHAT DO I DO????

Sorry boys, just having a small crisis here.

[Anonymous No.7245275]

>>7245272

yeah bachelors in bio is pretty much dead end. Have to get phd for any chance at a real career.

or go to med school.

[Anonymous No.7245276]

>>7245275
Fuck getting a phd I've seen what that does to people nowadays. Its like serving 2 terms as president.

[Anonymous No.7245278]

>>7245272

Go into conservation?

Create a colony of pet bacteria?

Become a vet tech?

Work at a zoo?

Honestly a 4 year degree is minimum nowadays, having it will always be better than not.

And the government is going to have to forgive student loans as a massive amount of them will default.

[Anonymous No.7245279]

>>7244310
Gilson user master race reporting in. Also crisis bio man

[Anonymous No.7245297]

>>7245272
Biomed is a shit engineering degree. Most places prefer mechanical or electrical engineers straight up.

Also masters in biotech is shit as well. I'd drop out because fuck paying $50g a year. You should have taken classes to work in small businesses.

[Anonymous No.7245304]

>>7245297
fuck man now I don't know what to do at all.

[Anonymous No.7245310]

>>7245272
>24
why are you complaining?
I'm 23 and I'm about to finish my community college for app development
atleast you got a bach degree, I don't know if I can stomach 4 years of programming and not get hired at 27 because of the age gap

[Anonymous No.7245373]

>>7245272
>>7245310

I'll be turning 27 and barely trying to transfer out of this CC. I'm so fucked.

[Anonymous No.7245412]

>>7245276
It's not that bad if you're good at what you do.

[Anonymous No.7245434]

>>7243394
overrated post

[Anonymous No.7245449]

>>7245272
Literally in the same exact fucking situation.

HahHAhaha WW3 or dystopian economic collapse, or YELLOWSTONE eruption needs to happen soon or I'll just have to stay a NEET parasite then off myself once the folks die

[Anonymous No.7245475]

>>7245373
it hurts, you guys had it good. this fucking teacher held me back 2 fucking years, I even sued the goddamn school and had to settle it outside of court

fuck tenthousand times.

[Anonymous No.7245492]

>>7243887
L0L
my Physics prof is a solid-stater, I'll never regard him the same again

[Anonymous No.7245498]

>>7245475
Wait held you back in college? or what?

[Anonymous No.7245504]

Ok i need the help of this thread. My only goal in life is to become immortal. I don't really care how i will achieve it. Only that i achieve it. I have access to just enough money for ~8 years of university. But am willing to work part time to increase my time studying at uni.

I don't care about status/wealth/girls. I just want that sweet sweet eternal life.

What should i study?.

[Anonymous No.7245510]

[Anonymous No.7245514]

>>7245272
Don't worry about it anon. Just learn to draw and you can find a job easy doing what you love

[Anonymous No.7245515]

>>7245504
philosophy

[Anonymous No.7245518]

>>7242645

if you can't come up with this shit in your head then you're a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.7245525]

>>7245504
>study medicine and find a way to prolong life
>study whatever allows you to put your consciousness into a machine
>study anything you want and immortalize yourself through your achievements
>have children
>kill 6 million jews

Or any combination of the above to immortalize yourself.

[Anonymous No.7245526]

>>7245504
>>7245504
1. Study something that will bringe you money.
2. Work and save ca 100 000 €
3. As soon as you have the money, go to a cryonic institut and say you want to be freezen till immortaly is possible.
4. Kill yourself and let yourself freeze.

[Anonymous No.7245528]

>>7245526
thinly veiled kill yourself post, i like it.

>>7245515
>>7245525

I meant physical immortality.

"study whatever allows you to put your consciousness into a machine" doesn't really answer my question of what to study.

I get the main message though.

[Anonymous No.7245530]

>>7245504
I could of sworn there something in russ- ahh there it is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality

scroll at the bottom, there was some kind of russian research about this

[Anonymous No.7245533]

>>7243394
>being this autistic

Dayum nigga

[Anonymous No.7245536]

>get bullied for most of my life
>go to college for engineering
>transfer to psychology
>get bs in psych
>work for three years
>get rejected for psych masters program with concentration in CB neuroscience.
>so now I cant get back into STEM

Now I am thinkg of doing. >>7242321

Thinking about getting an MBA, making some money and then maybe trying for it again. I'm gonna be 26 soon so I need the health insurance of a full time job. Seems like there is an over-saturation of STEM jobs anyways.

[Anonymous No.7245539]

>>7245536
no such thing as over-saturation of STEM.

[Anonymous No.7245547]

>>7245504
theology

[Anonymous No.7245584]

>>7245514
>Don't worry about it anon. Just learn to draw and you can find a job easy doing what you love
wut
I don't understand

[Anonymous No.7245589]

[Anonymous No.7245601]

>>7245589
really? I found that hard believe, I got the complete opposite

[Anonymous No.7245605]

>>7245601
Well tbh I also expected lots of lectures and theory, which turned out to be true, but I was surprised to be doing projects on a dual beam FIB in my second year, and doing TEM EDX and EELS analysis for my bachelors thesis.

[Anonymous No.7245608]

[Anonymous No.7245618]

>>7245276
it wouldn't just be: get a phd, then magical employment. In bio, you not only have to get a phd, but do a post-doc or two just to get a job in industry. It's a very sad state of things.

[Anonymous No.7245622]

>>7243394
My nigga!
Im gonna try and incorporate this description when TA'ing first years

>>7245177
"pretty much everywhere else" the growth has an upper bound and minimal improvements require a tremendous amount of work (like running those 100m just a second faster)
In math, the effort to learn something new is pretty much constant but opens up exponentially many new pathways for you to take

[Anonymous No.7245625]

>>7245605
Good for you man. I didn't continue

[Anonymous No.7245636]

>>7243218
Please be kidding!

[Anonymous No.7246117]

>>7245475

Held you back in college? Why didn't you just take a different teacher? If he was the only teacher who taught the course then why didn't you just take the course at a different college?

[Anonymous No.7246125]

>>7245270
Literally math is the most common minor for EE's I think. Maybe only at the BS level, but it's like, for EEs you only need 2-3 more math classes for a minor. They won't even let me minor in Computer Engineering, although there's like a 5-7 class gap.

[Anonymous No.7246131]

I study chemistry

it's not particularly interesting but I get to sniff solvents which is cool I guess

at least when I have free time i can focus on my real interests, coding and electronics

god why did I pick up chemistry

[Anonymous No.7246169]

>>7245498
>>7246117
Yes, I tried getting another teacher but he was the only one who was available since the other one had some kind of fucked up disease that was debilitating him

Fucksake the cunt teached csharp and I could have learned it at home and sent the projects in that way, I wasn't even allowed to do that

>"NO ANON PRESENTION IS ALSO IMPORTANT"
What a flying rotting cunt

[Anonymous No.7246212]

[Anonymous No.7246252]

>>7246169

c#? Should have just taken the course at a different community college.

[Anonymous No.7246262]

>>7244096
t'auras de toutes façons rien de vraiment informatique avant le master. Et certainement pas en école d'inge. Si tu veux vraiment faire de l'info (et pas des STIC) essaie des master ou magistère en info théorique comme ils en ont à Lyon ou Paris.

[Anonymous No.7246315]

>>7244220
kek

[Anonymous No.7246329]

>>7244044
>doing maths for the $$
you disgusting pleb.

[Anonymous No.7246387]

Could someone give me the short on the differences between EE and CoE? Which is more fun?

[Anonymous No.7246444]

>>7246329
>studying anything for the $$
Pigs

[Anonymous No.7246461]

>>7245589
Human words can't express how jelly I am.
I regret living.

[Anonymous No.7247000]

>>7243768
This gives me hope.

[Anonymous No.7247065]

Am I late ?

[Anonymous No.7247091]

>>7247065
no I'm still enjoying these

[Anonymous No.7247092]

>>7243598
Good luck in finding some job ;) (not a post-doc position)

[Anonymous No.7247108]

>>7245272
I know this feel, couldn't find any employment until a friend helped me get a job working as a software tester. I'm finding I'm enjoying this far more than I imagined.

[Anonymous No.7247109]

>>7246461
What's so cool about electron microscopy? Well, unless you are doing single molecule transmission electron microscopy on biomacromolecules. Which is pretty fashionable and cool, and has a potential to kick crystallographyfags out of the field.

[Anonymous No.7247116]

>>7247065
Is geology pretty alright to study? I'm tied between Geology and Physics. Not sure which I enjoy more.

[Anonymous No.7247118]

>>7242078
When I think about it, it looks like I actually got what I wanted...

[Anonymous No.7247145]

>>7247118
>lisp
I am sorry for your loss. You didn't have to learn Czeck too did you?

[Anonymous No.7247146]

Is it true that the more bullshit math I do the more money I'll make?

[Anonymous No.7247147]

>>7243382
>>Hello world
I kek'd

[Anonymous No.7247149]

>>7247146
Only if you are in industry.

[Anonymous No.7247152]

>>7243218
>what you got
more like unemployment

[Anonymous No.7247176]

>>7244044
>>7244077
>>7244099
>>7244177
>>7244200
>>7244322
>>7244333
>>7246444
>>7247000

Massive digits thread

[Anonymous No.7247184]

>>7243595
Got all of my final grades today. Realize that I'm about to graduate with a 4.0 in my major. Have no idea what I learned.

If I ever get asked to do some kind of math in a interview, I am royally fucked.

[Anonymous No.7247213]

Hey 3 chemistry majors in this thread

I'm going to uni next fall and I have a choice to make:
Computer Sci or Chemistry
If I do chem, I'm fairly sure I'd do something like material science, or I'd shift over into biochem. Probably pursue to a Masters on that route, then hope to god I've made enough friends to get a decent job in the field (live near Savannah River Site, Nuketown USA.)

The only reason I even consider it is because Chem is the only class I've ever been the top of my class in, and my teacher told me he would hate to see me waste my "gift" on some slave labor lab tech job.

If I do CS I'll just coast with my best friend into a bachelor's and gtfo before I waste too much of my life.

[Anonymous No.7247219]

>>7247213
CS all the way

i'm not 3 of those who replied, but i got a bachelor's in chemistry

[Anonymous No.7247223]

[Anonymous No.7247226]

Is electrical engineering really that bad?
I'm only in Calculus I so far and it's pretty challenging in my opinion. It's not like I'm just gonna do more and more calculus until I graduate. I mean, we'll be building systems and running circuits too, right? That's all I care about.

[Anonymous No.7247229]

>>7247213
If I had a chance to chose again, I would chose computer science. I'm biochemist.

[Anonymous No.7247231]

>>7247226
EE are guys who never struggled in math or programming

[Anonymous No.7247239]

>>7247231
Ikr. I got As in all my math courses. My first programming I got C because I'm ADHD as fuck. This last one I'm getting an A in.

The only problem with EE is the pussy you'll never get.

>oh you do MechE! Cars and big rigs shit so hot
>oh you do EE? well erm you'll get a good job someday

[Anonymous No.7247242]

>>7247219
What can you do with a bachelor's in chem?
I imagine the aforementioned labtech hell...

[Anonymous No.7247245]

>>7247242
teaching gen chem, erm I mean, Algebra 1 to high school students...

[Anonymous No.7247247]

>>7247242
Nothing at all, probably. Have you thought about Chemical Engineering? That you can do at Master's, and it'll put you up in the relative crowded chemistry field.

[Anonymous No.7247248]

>>7247239
I've never got one in my life so I don't really care about that. I just wanted to know if I'll have a good time doing it.
>>7247231
Will I have to type up codes? I went with EE instead of CE in the first place because I want to avoid programming and Linux and typing codes

[Anonymous No.7247249]

>>7247229
Some reasons why?
Not enough job openings? Too competitive?

Boring?

[Anonymous No.7247254]

>>7247248
Pussy or As? As for "fun", you have to make your own, but since Arduinos, Pi's, signal stuff, programming, etc is all a fundamental part of EE work, yeah, it should be fun.

>MechE just tells me of his GROUP end project where they hook up an arduino to play a guitar with solenoids n shit
>this will actually get them their credit
EE majors are supposed to do that shit as a hobby.

[Anonymous No.7247255]

>>7247247
I have, I'm just afraid of all the extra engineering classes I'd have to face on top of chem.

Plus I'm still afraid of the whole "drowning in debt with no stable job to fix it" thing.

[Anonymous No.7247257]

>>7247254
Er, well, programming isn't, but EE majors should know how to interface software and hardware, as well as how to do certain stuff with data, because simulations and systems if they go that way

[Anonymous No.7247266]

>>7247255
In theory, you could tell people you're going for the ChemE degree, and if worst comes to worst, you take longer to finish, but work in the meantime. For a Chemist, you would probably do interning. I really don't know what job a Chemist would do, I'm probably the worst person to ask because I kinda despise the less "product" oriented science, for pragmatic reasons

[Anonymous No.7247270]

>>7247254
This EE grad with his master's tells me Arduinos don't really reflect the field work done be Electrical Engineers. Should I just pick one up anyways so I can fuck around with it? I was actually thinking of building like a clock or something. Or assembling a nixie clock with basic soldering skills and some tubes off eBay.

[Anonymous No.7247275]

>>7247266
Oh I'm all for the real applied stuff

I can't imagine the horrors of neverending math in grad school, I'd have to actually make something to feel like I accomplished something in life.

[Anonymous No.7247288]

>>7243864
Bode plots tho

[Anonymous No.7247301]

>>7244333
>>7244333
> be me
> sitting in feedback control lecture
> realizing how hard control systems are
> realize I'll never build the iron man suit
> feelsbadman.mp4

[Anonymous No.7247305]

>>7247270
>don't reflect the work
Well that's very true, EE's are supposed to do more either design and validation of systems I think. A lot of them work big-scale, like power distribution. The hobbyist EE stuff though is something that can keep you sharp and has immediate results. Eventually I will build a microphone amp that works properly.

[Anonymous No.7247313]

to be fair there was plenty of the expected too after all the spreadsheets and adderall

[Anonymous No.7247324]

>compooder engineering
>how2make compooder chips
>time domain, discrete-time domain, s-domain, z domain Ω-domain, ω-domain, k-domain, segmentation faults, suicidal thoughts

[Christfriend <3 Bompastic korr(...) !9zSonat8ZM No.7247325]

ugh

[Anonymous No.7247331]

>>7247116
Geology is the real shit imo

[Christfriend <3 Bompastic korr(...) !9zSonat8ZM No.7247333]

>>7247331
Might suck when the oil boom is done.

[Anonymous No.7247341]

>>7247333
>oil
Nigga this is gold, metals and rare earths prospection/minning, there are shit-tons of things to do.

[Anonymous No.7247363]

As a prospecting engineer when it comes to math, to me it looks like you reach a certain point where it becomes so complicated that it's easy

[Anonymous No.7247367]

>>7245272
>>7245278
>unemployment
Guys I'm scared. I'm 18, going into freshman biology major at a Land Grant school in the U.S. next year. I'd love to go into conservation work or maybe agriculture. Am I making a mistake? Should I switch into something more specialized like forestry, or is that a dying industry?
Am I better off just going into Biochem or Biotech and ignoring my mountain-man dreams?

[Anonymous No.7247375]

>>7247341
Damn straight. Even if oil goes the way of the dodo, where the hell do you think the lithium/nickel/cadmium/whatever for electric batteries comes from?

[Anonymous No.7247402]

>>7244084
>It is so unnecessary to get an education to be a code monkey.

ftfy

[Anonymous No.7247426]

>>7242926
10/10

[Anonymous No.7247430]

>>7242878

omg this be my jam

[Anonymous No.7247432]

>>7243536
Don't feel so bad, sometimes you get a yellow oil instead of a white crystalline powder and it's the highlight of your day.

[Anonymous No.7247436]

>>7242934
He wasn't expecting the DiffEQs. He was expecting to memorize biochemistry like a normal biologist.

[Anonymous No.7247461]

[Anonymous No.7247495]

>>7242079

[Anonymous No.7247519]

>>7246387
>CoE
CoE? are you referring to computer engineering?

[Anonymous No.7247526]

I don't know much about it, but if you want to just get a bachelor's then a job, you should probably not major in biology. On its own, a bachelor's in biology is well useless.

[Anonymous No.7247530]

>>7247226
You still got quite a few math classes to take. EE involves a shit ton of math. You can get through EE with little programming skills beyond some basics, but it can get really mathematical.

[Anonymous No.7247534]

>>7247530
not him, but I am getting me degree in EE and I thought Calc 1 was a breeze, is calc 2 as hard as everyone says it is?

[Anonymous No.7247538]

>>7242878
my gf is a neuroscientist and i swear the amount of times i've taught her how to rearrange the nernst equation (she's dumb) is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.7247579]

>>7247534
(not him)

Depends on what you mean by "hard". The material is not all that strange or difficult to grasp. Most of it is really intuitive. However, some of the integrals you will have to crunch through aren't all that trivial to evaluate.

It's hard in a "tedious brute force" kind of way, not in a "i'm so fucking lost" kind of way.

Just don't be a lazy cunt and you'll do fine.

[Anonymous No.7247598]

>>7247367
I dunno man, I'm in maths. Do what you love or something?

[Anonymous No.7247602]

>>7247530
I would not say Calc 2 is hard. The only part that has some difficulty I would say is the very last sections. Most of the material is a natural continuation of Calc 1. If you did good in Calc 1 you should be fine in Calc 2.

[Anonymous No.7247615]

>>7242129
You have to go if your professor makes you put homework on the board for "participation" which is 25% of your grade.
Also if your professor/department chose a really shitty book.

[Anonymous No.7247619]

>>7242777
This. Oftentimes, one "trick" can be used and applied to dozens of other problems.

[Anonymous No.7247631]

>>7242724
>>7242982
Analysis and abstract algebra are like the two coolest classes at the undergrad level.

Grad level can be a little bullshit, but not too awful.

[Anonymous No.7247635]

>>7247534
Personally I thought it was easier, but then again, I thought Calc I was kind of hard (barely got a B in it).

If you just study like it's any other class, you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.7247662]

>>7243382
>studys CE
>no EE

huh?

>>7244136
shit uni detected

[Anonymous No.7247722]

[Anonymous No.7247749]

>>7243931
you went to NYU?

[Anonymous No.7247840]

>>7242933
top post m8

[Anonymous No.7247867]

>>7247615
if you have 25% of your grade saved for participation then your uni is shit

[Anonymous No.7247887]

>>7247184
how did you pull it off

[Anonymous No.7247890]

>>7247461
I bet you got way more math than you expected right?

[Anonymous No.7248134]

>>7247248
>Will I have to type up codes? I went with EE instead of CE in the first place because I want to avoid programming and Linux and typing codes
Majoring in EE here, you find quite some programming in your path. Specially if you try the areas of Telecommunications and Control//Automation//Robotics.
I like coding though, so I'm fine with it.

[Anonymous No.7248147]

>>7247867
Yeah, I wouldn't make showing up to class so important. On the other hand, the curve will handle that many of the points were "easy."

[Anonymous No.7248301]

>>7247118
So wait

Who the fuck builds all the robots if control is so boring and theoretical?

[Anonymous No.7248362]

>>7248301
University is a bit different than actual world work. It's always more theoretical.

[Anonymous No.7248387]

>>7248301
>>7248362

Academia is complete garbage for anyone who actually wants to APPLY what they learn. Academia is more of what the future could be like while the real world is more "what can you do right now?"

[Anonymous No.7248436]

>>7248387
except for doctors, but besides that I agree

[Anonymous No.7248784]

>>7247116
do geology
im a math/phys student and i don't really have many prospects without further school
also the further you get in physics the harder and less exciting it gets

[Anonymous No.7248789]

>>7247223
nice
>>7247325
you thought you'd be doing quantum physics?

[Anonymous No.7249101]

[Anonymous No.7249133]

>>7242078
I still absolutely love this subject, by the way.

[Anonymous No.7249273]

>>7243382
>You will never be called pathetic by Shodan.
>You will never have every aspect of your life monitored, categorised and managed by Shodan.
>You will never be psychologically crushed by Shodan
>You will never develop Stockholm syndrome because of Shodan
Why live.

[Anonymous No.7249300]

>>7243536
Inorganic Chemistry labs legitimately amused me. Instead of Organic labs where you get a .000001% yield of pale brown waxy substance, you ended up with like 90% yield of bright purple crystals, so you could actaully characterise your shit. Synthesis still made me so happy to be a computational chemist though.