Harmful effects of cannabis.

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Harmful effects of cannabis. Anonymous Thu Apr 30 06:27:16 2015 No.7227354 [Reply] [Original]

There's so much bs around weed these days, both for and against it. What are the cold hard facts that we know for sure in terms of its short and long term impact on health?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 06:32:24 2015 No.7227357 Weed is good for your health. The people who are against it aren't blazed enough.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 06:34:31 2015 No.7227360

Harmful effects:
>you might become obese due to increased appetite
>may cause inappropriate laughter
>smoke may irritate lungs (can be prevented by using vaporizer)

Good effects:
>grows brain cells
>has anti-cancer effects
>can be helpful in treating various mental illnesses such as depression, anxiety and schizophrenia
>impossible to overdose
>cardioprotective effects

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 06:59:16 2015 No.7227369 >>7227360 Add trigger for psychosis. I know some people going loco, but they already had psychossis cases in the family and apparently it just triggers it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:07:24 2015 No.7227373 File: 14 KB, 218x339, cancer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7227360 >has anti-cancer effects Get out. It's fun to smoke weed, but it never passed clinical trail test for being good against cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:10:01 2015 No.7227375 >>7227360 That cancer shit is just a ruse, has yet to be well documented by empirical evidence, only a group of stoners claiming miracles.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:18:59 2015 No.7227380

>>7227369
Yeah you can get psychosis. I had a college friend who went totally paranoid and started to booby-trap his home against possible invaders. I lost touch with him after he showed me his collection of exploding light bulbs.
...
On the other hand, have a look at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eA_jeDi1Kc
...
Then there's wacky theories that I rather like: Just as certain plants evolved in parallel with certain animal species in a mutualistic relationship like specific species of butterfly who feed on very specific plants, cannabis and humans seem to go together. There's also an idea that cannabis influenced human evolution and was responsible for communal feelings of empathy resulting in primitive communities forming. Or that it perhaps influenced human intelligence in a positive way.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:20:55 2015 No.7227382

>>7227369
I've had it trigger a round of psychosis in combination with a lot of meditation. It helped me unlock a lot of traumatizing stuff that happened to me as a kid that had given me a personality disorder with which I lived all my life without knowing.

The weed paranoia combined with the surfacing of very old memories combined into a breakdown and then an awakening.

It has been good and bad for me. I don't want to live in delusions, but it also has left me with a bottle of old emotions that I had shut down because my brain can't process them without malfunctioning.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:23:22 2015 No.7227386 >>7227354 Don't use it when younger than 18, harmful if use excessively. Don't use it when working or driving. You know - just like alcohol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:41:58 2015 No.7227400 If you have a genetic predisposition to developing schizophrenia or similar disorders, cannabis could induce you into developing it on spot, much earlier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 07:46:44 2015 No.7227404 Weed helped me to understand algebraic topology, and caused my dick to grow by three inches. Blaze it, faggots.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 08:42:11 2015 No.7227436

I think it causes memory loss, I used it in excess as a teen and noticed myself having a hard time remembering names and when things are due. Minuscule stuff that I used to just store in my head and remember later.

After I quit it came back after a month or so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 08:43:03 2015 No.7227437 >>7227354 May cause chronic derealization. >>7227373 Cannabidiol induces autolysis in certain tumor cells.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 13:16:53 2015 No.7227832 Taking all bets on citation-to-posts ratio once this thread hits 100 replies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:12:33 2015 No.7228235 >>7227437 >May cause chronic derealization. this. Do you have it anon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:33:04 2015 No.7228297 >>7227360 >>impossible to overdose you clearly have not smoked enough weed

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:53:43 2015 No.7228340 weed is a terrible drug with no real benefits eating broccoli and onions and drinking green tea has a stronger effect that weed on cancer

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 17:57:04 2015 No.7228344 >>7227354 It has loads of Dankium-420 which has been shown to increase thermogenic energy in surrounding areas

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:01:13 2015 No.7228362 >>7227354 Harmful effects: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v18/n1/abs/nn.3892.html It gets harder to learn and it fucks with your short term memory, your brain recovers to normal after a few months tho, but I smoke everyday anyway lol

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:01:20 2015 No.7228363

here's a question

what's the comparison between driving drunk and driving high? Obviously both will impair your reflexes, but I have a friend who drives while stoned as hell all the time, and he claims it isn't any more difficult besides the fact that he forgets where he's supposed to turn sometimes.

Have there been studies done on this? I can't find anything very concrete

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 18:09:48 2015 No.7228394

>>7228363
> Smoking pot doubles car accident risk
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/smoking-pot-doubles-car-accident-risk-1.1216818
> hit up the external links for actual papers comparing

Now, that's just a correlation... maybe people who smoke and drive are the kind of people who are going to get into accidents anyway.

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 19:58:46 2015 No.7228645

>>7227382

What it's done for me is help me realize the severity of my already-existing anxiety and OCD. It's at much better control now, but that's mainly because I used weed for more than "feelin good bro". I mean when I got home the first time I got high, I still did some OCD habits. In fact, I made sure I did them.

Meditating helped my clear my head. I'm not always conversing with my head or have invading thoughts nowadays and when I do, I can choose to ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 20:08:41 2015 No.7228658 File: 1.79 MB, 1024x576, satisfiedsamurai.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7227382 What personality disorder?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 20:09:08 2015 No.7228659 File: 33 KB, 486x489, 1430422474531.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7227360 >has anti-cancer effects

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:31:22 2015 No.7228830 >>7228658 its actually a group of different disorders http://www.psi.uba.ar/academica/carrerasdegrado/psicologia/sitios_catedras/practicas_profesionales/820_clinica_tr_personalidad_psicosis/material/dsm.pdf

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:34:15 2015 No.7228841

I feel like I'm "addicted" to getting high, but not in the traditional sense. I just like getting high because when I'm bored and having nothing to do, it makes me want to do things. It also makes things like reading or even studying a lot more interesting, and things tend to stick more.

Also when I bring up how it helps my OCD and anxiety, people brush it off. Some stupid, sick, twisted and monumentally retarded social stigma seems to suggest that anxiety or OCD isn't all that serious.

A year ago I'd be spending hours awake because I didn't do one thing the right way or I didn't close the door the way I was supposed to, and I'd be doing this while being anxious as fuck because I'd think something could've happened if I didn't do it. Marijuana was the spark to the fire that helped me control it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 21:37:53 2015 No.7228854 >>7228841 Damn I'm exactly the same as you, sometimes I can't go to sleep because I'm lazy and don't work enough during the day to be intellectually stimulated. Weed seems to help

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 30 22:35:03 2015 No.7228991 File: 98 KB, 529x381, Ohgod.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7227360 >grows brain cells

Anonymous Thu Apr 30 23:36:11 2015 No.7229088
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>>7227354
smoking anything is bad for you. free radical carcinogens.

bake an oz of bud at 275 for 30min, then mix with 1/4 bottle bacardi 151. strain through cheese strainer and now you have tincture. test at 1/4 teaspoon. high wont hit for 1hr but will last 5hours.

nothing detrimental about tincture to long term health. bud will make short term memory not as good though, however the pros of feeling great in life and thinking deeper than you ever have before is worth it. theres a lot more cannanaboids in tincture than smoke that is beneficial to health: suppresses tumors, brain cell growth, etc

Anonymous Fri May 1 00:17:57 2015 No.7229162
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anecdotal, since its based on my personal experience but:

pros:
-cured my social anxiety
-helped better mange my chronic clinical depression (notice i did not say cured)
-very enjoyable experience that helps me think and look at life in a different way
-enhances auditory, gustatory and tactile sensations
-most effective sleep aid
-as good as viagra, can maintain my boner all night, keep pumping, my girl was against me smoking, but know encourages it before we have sex

cons:
-smoking not good for you, but now i mostly vape instaed

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:27:48 2015 No.7229179 >>7227360 >treats schizophrenia wow thank for advice Dogtor Weed

Anonymous Fri May 1 00:30:49 2015 No.7229185

>>7227380
the only way a plant could significantly influence the selection of genes in an organism is if the organism is, at some time, wholly dependent on the plant for survival.

No ancient humans died because they couldn't smoke a bowl. Nobody mated or didn't mate enough because of the chronic

That's a pitifully stupid idea

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 00:41:54 2015 No.7229192 >>7227360 >can be helpful in treating various mental illnesses such as depression It's not. I tried any kind of drug I could find here, none of them helped. Some things happened in my life and I'm getting better each day, but weed didn't help.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 04:53:35 2015 No.7229486 >>7227373 >>7227375 >>7228297 >>7229179 >>7229192 Stop hatin, start blazin. 420 quickscope faze clan.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 06:23:49 2015 No.7229577 >>7229192 Your anecdote doesn't tell anything of the general case. I'm not saying it's this way or that in general but your anecdote is just your personal experience.

Anonymous Fri May 1 06:35:06 2015 No.7229591

THC is not a neurotoxin. Unlike alcohol, it does not cause physical damage to the brain. However, if taken while the brain is still developing it can alter brain development in such a way as to lower iq and increase the chances of schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is a disorder of brain development, late-onset schizophrenia is rare and probably completely unrelated to regular schizophrenia. The effects of chronic use on adult brains are significant, but more or less reversible with abstinence.

"Cannabis psychosis" is not a thing, people who have psychotic episodes with cannabis are close to schizophrenia (50% who are hospitalised for "cannabis psychosis" go on to develop schizophrenia within a year).

Anonymous Fri May 1 06:55:17 2015 No.7229626

>>7227354
it can't cause schizophrenia unless the person in question is already genetically predisposed to it
(various studies)

like most other drugs it will make a person more apathetic
(anecdotal evidence)

the high school dropout rate is supposedly much higher for those that smoked weed when compared to those that didn't
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2910149/))

if its legalised it will see a lack of use as its no longer taboo
(may sound wrong but i saw a study once [best evidence])

supposedly being high lowers accidents when driving
(i may have remembered seeing an article but maybe not so take that with a grain of dank kush)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 07:40:48 2015 No.7229680 >>7227360 Hell Doctor Green Thumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xExSdzkZZB0

Anonymous Fri May 1 09:21:20 2015 No.7229798

>>7227354
>what are the cold hard facts that we know for sure in terms of its short and long term impact on health?

I've experienced some very strange health effects from cannabis, most people I tell outright won't believe me but I'm telling the truth.

I can only speak for myself but cannabis causes my heart to skip beats whenever I am high and occasionally gives me a seizure, it's not me being paranoid as I've seen it on an ECG, my friends have felt it and I've got two permanent scars from collapsing before a seizure. it hasn't stopped me from smoking I just take temazepam and/or mirtazapine before I'm going to smoke which simply reduces the hard beat feeling that happens just after it skips and completely stops the seizures (I don't know why).

It first started happening when I woke up after my very first seizure and my heart felt very odd, (I was in ventricle fibrillation) I tried to wait it out but after about 14 hours I decided it's time to call an ambulance.

Long story short it turns out my right temporal lobe is underdeveloped and apparently this in itself can cause seizure.

I wanted my doctors to do everything they could for me so I told both my cardiologist and neurologist about my cannabis use, my cardiologist called it a "one off" and advised me to stop smoking but not for this reason, my neurologist said it's very likely the weed because it is known to cause seizures and because my temporal love is underdeveloped it increases my risk.

None of my doctors have been able to explain why my heart skips beats though, it's usually about 1 skip per 2 minutes, It's very worrying to feel and I really really want to know why it does it to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 09:29:11 2015 No.7229805 >>7227360 >cardioprotective effects Not for me. >>7229798

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 13:59:44 2015 No.7230271 >>7229185 That's not true; there's lots of examples of organisms that co-evolved with extinct species but are still around. There's literally nothing about co-evolution that requires organisms to die if they're separated.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 1 20:36:03 2015 No.7231053 >>7228841 I know exactly what you're talking about. I felt like it cured my genetic stupidity(ignorant person would ridicule me for this comment)

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 08:12:45 2015 No.7231777 >>7228854 >le smart but so lazy he can't even sleep

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 08:31:14 2015 No.7231798 >>7227382 You're an idiot.

Anonymous Sat May 2 08:36:46 2015 No.7231808
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>>7229088
>bud will make short term memory not as good though, however the pros of feeling great in life and thinking deeper than you ever have before is worth it.

The psychedelic experience is a doorway which leads to a hallway which leads to only what you want to find within yourself.

Anonymous Sat May 2 09:45:26 2015 No.7231880
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>>7227369
>Add trigger for psychosis.
In the LESS than 1% of the population who is genetically predisposed extremely high THC strains (Sativas) can aggravate symptoms. But since CDBD is a tested and proven antipsychotic both safer and more effective than the vast majority of drugs prescribed for such conditions a pure bred Indica would actually help their condition. Correlation is not causation.

Cannabidiol, a Cannabis sativa constituent, as an antipsychotic drug.
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=s0100-879x2006000400001&script=sci_arttext

A critical review of the antipsychotic effects of cannabidiol: 30 years
of a translational investigation.
http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/22716160

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 09:48:13 2015 No.7231886 >>7231880 >Correlation is not causation. and yet you're using correlative evidence (the coincidental presence of CBD) to make a firm causative statement about treatment. nice job having intellectual consistency

Anonymous Sat May 2 09:48:37 2015 No.7231888
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>>7227373
>It's fun to smoke weed, but it never passed clinical trail test for being good against cancer.
Only because the fascist states of amerika has refused to allow most trials to take place. The DEA controls all of the federally legal cannabis and they only fund studies looking for harm, even with dubious science and outright lies they will revoke your funding if you don't find harm and they have done this for 30 fucking years. The US government has known cannabis shrinks and kills tumors for 30 years.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19638490
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22776349
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16682966
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12648025
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Anonymous Sat May 2 09:52:29 2015 No.7231894
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>>7227373
>Get out.
You GTFO. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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Anonymous Sat May 2 09:53:34 2015 No.7231895
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>>7227373
>has anti-cancer effects
Yes, yes it does.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16624285
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16616335
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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19690545
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>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 09:55:03 2015 No.7231898 File: 93 KB, 612x612, 1421436479327.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7227832 >Taking all bets I will win.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 09:56:04 2015 No.7231901 File: 68 KB, 450x483, deaths.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7228297 It is physically impossible to overdose to death on cannabis. You literally cannot consume enough to kill you.

Anonymous Sat May 2 09:57:30 2015 No.7231903
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>>7228340
>with no real benefits
Such a naive shill.

Cannabidiol and (−)Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol are neuroprotective antioxidants
http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8268.short

Neuroprotective properties of cannabinoids against oxidative stress: role of the cannabinoid receptor CB1
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.0022-3042.2001.00716.x/full

Cannabinoids and brain injury: therapeutic implications
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1471491402022761

Cannabinoids as Neuroprotective Agents
in Traumatic Brain Injury
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/cpd/2004/00000010/00000018/art00007

Anonymous Sat May 2 09:59:03 2015 No.7231905
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>>7228363
>what's the comparison between driving drunk and driving high?
Cannabis makes people slow down and be cautious. Alcohol induces reckless behavior. They are polar opposites. It can effect driving, but far less than alcohol and the NHTSB proved it twice. See: Marijuana And Actual Driving Performance - by Robbe, NHTSA, 1993 & Marijuana And Actual Driving Performance - by Robbe, NHTSA, 1999. I quote: "[Moderate use] has not been shown to extend into the area that can rightfully be regarded as dangerous or an obviously unacceptable threat to public safety."
http://ntl.bts.gov/lib/25000/25800/25867/DOT-HS-808-078.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/
Surprisingly, given the alarming results of cognitive studies, most marijuana-intoxicated drivers show only modest impairments on actual road tests. Experienced smokers who drive on a set course show almost no functional impairment under the influence of marijuana, except when it is combined with alcohol.

"Alcohol impaired performance relative to placebo but subjects did not perceive it. THC did not impair driving performance yet the subjects thought it had. These studies show that cannabis in single inhaled doses up to 300 mg/kg has significant, yet not dramatic, dose-related impairing effects on driving performance. "
-U.S. Department of Transportation,
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
(DOT HS 808 078), Final Report, November 1993.

New 2015 data reaffirms:
http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+Releases/2015/nhtsa-releases-2-impaired-driving-studies-02-2015

http://blog.norml.org/2015/02/09/federal-study-thc-positive-drivers-not-more-likely-to-be-involved-in-motor-vehicle-crashes/

Anonymous Sat May 2 10:00:12 2015 No.7231906
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>>7228659
>has anti-cancer effects
Yes, it does.
Brain Cancer:
http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html
http://www.jneurosci.org/content/21/17/6475.abstract
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838.abstract
http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/10/1/90.abstract
Breast Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20859676
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/early/2006/05/25/jpet.106.105247
http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196
http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8375.full.pdf+html
Lung Cancer:
http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v27/n3/abs/1210641a.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22198381?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21097714?dopt=Abstract
Prostate Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12746841?dopt=Abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3339795/?tool=pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22594963
Blood Cancer:
http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.23584/abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594
Oral Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734
Liver Cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304
Pancreatic Cancer:
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.abstract

Anonymous Sat May 2 10:03:45 2015 No.7231909
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>>7228991
>grows brain cells
In a sense. Natural cannabinoids certainly protect healthy cells and promote apoptosis in unhealthy cells (like tumor cells).
http://www.fasebj.org/content/19/12/1704.short

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:05:26 2015 No.7231911 >>7231888 i see one is listed as anxiolytic, but how many are anxiogenic?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:07:54 2015 No.7231916 >>7231880 >CDBD CBD. Sorry for the typo.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:08:54 2015 No.7231919 >>7231886 >and yet you're using correlative evidence Bullshit. CBD has been through clinical trials you fucking moron.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:10:20 2015 No.7231921 >>7231911 >but how many are anxiogenic? 1 and not in everyone. Also its modulated by all the others. Synergy is what makes the medicine.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:23:00 2015 No.7231932 >>7231919 clinical trials are still correlative

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:24:01 2015 No.7231933 >>7231919 Maybe CBD has as a standalone drug. That does not mean weed that contains CBD will have the same effect. That's the correlative part.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:25:28 2015 No.7231934 worst thing about weed is the bullshit around it these days

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:32:41 2015 No.7231942 >>7229088 >Tinctures >Le pseudoscience Dumbest shit ever

Anonymous Sat May 2 10:33:15 2015 No.7231943

>>7231933
>That does not mean weed that contains CBD will have the same effect.
Incorrect. The entourage effect makes whole plant extract the best medicine. Always has been and always will be. Different strains can be selected for different ailment, but extracts the whole plant cannabinoid profile is the best way to make the medicine. From there it can be vaporized or eaten.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:34:34 2015 No.7231945 File: 47 KB, 372x432, 1426102935972.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7231942 >Tinctures Have been standard practice in medicine for 1000 years. They still are in most of the world. It not any different than a pill its just in liquid form.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:39:31 2015 No.7231949 >>7231934 >worst thing about weed is the bullshit around it these days Such as the truth? A painful truth you simply wish would go away?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 10:57:45 2015 No.7231974 >>7231945 >muh historical usage argument Rhino horn has been used in medicine for a while, doesn't mean it does shit.

Anonymous Sat May 2 10:58:32 2015 No.7231976

Whenever I smoke, my muscles becime very tense and I become very nervous, have bad nihilistic thoughts and constantly analyse bad moments of the past. I cant control that. The amount of how much weed I smike has no impact. But a year or two I loved to get high and I would love to get high and be normal again. What do?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 11:16:26 2015 No.7231994 File: 33 KB, 640x480, history clip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7231974 >Rhino horn Has no peer reviewed studies to back it up. Cannabis literally has a thousand or more.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 11:35:08 2015 No.7232033 >why can't autistic math neets into biochem the /thread

Anonymous Sat May 2 11:41:15 2015 No.7232047

>>7231949
right the 'truth' that weed kills people and turns you into a psychotic murderer?

because thats pretty much the only thing fueling the argument that it should be illegal. that, and people who don't even pretend there's a good reason, and just want it to be illegal because they hate potheads.

>>7231976
I would recommend you try psychedelics, if you haven't, try shrooms. Sounds like you've developed some emotional issues that the weed is forcing you to confront which stops you from enjoying it. For a while I was getting pretty bad social anxiety when I smoked, to the point where I'd have a minor panic attack if I had to interact extensively with strangers. Did some shrooms and I've been getting high as a kite everyday since

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 12:42:05 2015 No.7232149 >>7232047 Man, ive done shrooms. Loved them, the experience was pleasant and amazing still got problems with the anxiety tho

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 12:52:40 2015 No.7232164 >>7231943 The entourage effect is a hypothesis, not a proven phenomenon.

Anonymous Sat May 2 13:51:18 2015 No.7232237

My friend gave me a one-hitter a while ago after I mentioned I have trouble sleeping and my insomnia meds don't work anymore. I pack it every night before I go to bed (an 8th lasts me 2-3 months.) I've never been into drugs, and I'm worried its destroying my brain without me knowing. I personally see no adverse effects or changes in daily life.

It blows my medication out of the water, and I love the feeling- though I only use when my coursework is done, & I have finished all other work for the day.

Is my drug use justifiable? Or is it better just to stop?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 13:54:19 2015 No.7232242 >>7232237 >Is my drug use justifiable? first define the criteria by which you would begin to judge an action as worthy

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 13:55:17 2015 No.7232244 >>7232242 No long term or irreversible brain damage

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:04:55 2015 No.7232259 >>7227382 2manymoviz

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:07:25 2015 No.7232265 >>7232244 Then no, it's not justifiable. Many other things are also unjustifiable. Alcohol, maybe caffeine? Most psychoactive medications. Some species of plant.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:08:46 2015 No.7232266 smoking weed makes me want to not live anymore but I'm not sure if I just feel that way all the time and am only overwhelmed by it when really stoned don't smoke too much weed

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:10:45 2015 No.7232269 >>7232265 I see your point, thank you

Anonymous Sat May 2 14:10:46 2015 No.7232270

>>7232237
if you'd be suffering from insomnia without it, then yeah.

personally, I backed myself into this problem where I became reliant on cannabis to sleep, which became problematic for my mental health. It took a week or so of not smoking to even out into a good sober sleep schedule.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:39:57 2015 No.7232324 This is /sci/ and I see no anecdotes of cannabis enhancing mathematical thinking. How come? It's a noteworthy effect at least for some individuals. Autism might be required for this to be induced.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:45:56 2015 No.7232336 >>7232324 Maybe because we aren't autists? Either that or there are no anecdotes, I won't expect a drug that makes you high and chill would make thinking much clearer. Any experiences yourself?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:49:20 2015 No.7232345 >>7232324 I used to be autistic and smoke weed everyday and I can assure you, it did not help me do math and made it a lot harder by impairing my working memory.

Anonymous Sat May 2 14:52:43 2015 No.7232351

I ruined weed for myself by smoking too much of it for too long.

3 joints a day every day for a year and at one point something just snapped. I was at a party with friends I've known all my life and after toking up I suddenly became convinced they wanted to kill me. I kept telling myself I was just being paranoid from the weed, like I had been many times, but the next day I woke up sober and the feeling just wouldn't go away.

I started believing people in the street were staring at me, talking about me behind my back, whenever somebody laughed I immediately assumed they were laughing at me. I became convinced co-workers were sneaking into my house at night to watch me sleep and make fun of me. When talking to people I kept second-guessing what I was saying, convinced that it wasn't socially acceptable to say the things I said, that I was making a fool of myself.

Now I'd always been quite extroverted, had lots of friends. But I started to completely withdraw from social life. Only went out for grocery shopping, quit my job. Lost contact with just about everyone I've ever known.

Took me 2 years to recover. I found a new job and I go outside more, but I still feel like I'm not the person I used to be. I tried smoking again half a year ago and basically sat in a corner for 3 hours wishing for it to end.

Sucks.

Anonymous Sat May 2 14:55:27 2015 No.7232356

>>7232351
Sounds like you just unlocked latent schizophrenia. It was going to happen sooner or later anyway, weed just kicked it off for you.

Because I can assure you, I've been smoking a lot more than 3 joints a day everyday for a whole hell of a lot longer than a year, and I'm not the least bit paranoid or schizophrenic, and still enjoy it just as much.

Well...I am a little bit schizophrenic but that is due to taking too much acid, not the weed.

Anonymous Sat May 2 14:57:42 2015 No.7232360

>>7232336
>I won't expect a drug that makes you high and chill would make thinking much clearer
It affects some people very differently and the high can be a lot closer to a stimulated psychedelic state than the "chill" and foggy state of mind you're probably associating with cannabis.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 14:59:26 2015 No.7232363 >>7231994 >http://www.skepticblog.org/2012/12/05/randi-and-the-homeopath/#more-18429 Literally retarded

Anonymous Sat May 2 15:01:44 2015 No.7232367

>>7232356
Thing is you can't really know if it's gonna hit you until it does. So I'd caution everyone to be careful with how often they smoke.

There'd been no case of mental illness in my family that I'm aware of, and I never showed any signs until I started smoking. And today I'm pretty much fine day to day, I can get pretty massively drunk without it affecting my mind too much beyond what alcohol usually does, but the second I smoke cannabis I just go nuts again.

I'm not saying it's all the weed's fault, I'm just saying it probably isn't exclusively mine.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 15:03:38 2015 No.7232371 Cannabis is the devil. Fucking pot smokers.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 15:35:56 2015 No.7232432 >>7231888 >>7231894 >>7231895 >>7231906 What a load of bullshit. http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-36791

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 15:45:22 2015 No.7232449 >>7232360 Perhaps so. Any personal experience?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 15:49:13 2015 No.7232459 >>7227354 It smells like fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 15:55:01 2015 No.7232481 >>7232432 This is correct. Besides, if you could do without weed don't do it, or at least not in public, makes for a disgusting smell.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 16:00:15 2015 No.7232497 File: 840 KB, 1000x1333, IMG_20150502_224511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cannabinoid intoxication led me to think of and draw these circles, is this a positive or a negative aspect of the cannabinoid intoxication?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 16:01:45 2015 No.7232501 File: 543 KB, 1000x750, IMG_20150502_224725.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7232497

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 16:03:18 2015 No.7232505 >>7232497 Nice fractal, doesn't say anything much about weed though, other things could maybe cause you to do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 16:03:30 2015 No.7232506 >>7232449 Not that guy but last time I smoked weed my vision got all weird, very sparkling and clear. Also some black trails behind moving people and such.

Anonymous Sat May 2 18:42:39 2015 No.7232838
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A question to people who know what they are talking about from a person who doesn't know what he's talking about:

On a scale of 1 to 10, how well researched and up to date is pic related?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 2 23:36:29 2015 No.7233366 >>7227354 the most harmful effect cannabis has is when the police takes you to jail

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:29:06 2015 No.7233950
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>>7232164
>not a proven phenomenon.
INCORRECT.
Antitumor Activity of Plant Cannabinoids with Emphasis on the Effect of Cannabidiol on Human Breast Carcinoma.
The Journal of Pharmacology and experimental therapeutics.
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/318/3/1375.full.pdf

Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) exhibits antitumor effects on various cancer cell types, but its use in chemotherapy is limited by its psychotropic activity. We investigated the antitumor activities of other plant cannabinoids, i.e., cannabidiol, cannabigerol, cannabichromene, cannabidiol acid and THC acid, and assessed whether there is any advantage in using Cannabis extracts (enriched in either cannabidiol or THC) over pure cannabinoids. Results obtained in a panel of tumor cell lines clearly indicate that, of the five natural compounds tested, cannabidiol is the most potent inhibitor of cancer cell growth (IC50 between 6.0 and 10.6 μM), with significantly lower potency in noncancer cells.

...continued...

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:30:10 2015 No.7233953
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>>7232164
>not a proven phenomenon.
...continued...

The cannabidiol-rich extract was equipotent to cannabidiol, whereas cannabigerol and cannabichromene followed in the rank of potency. Both cannabidiol and the cannabidiol-rich extract inhibited the growth of xenograft tumors obtained by s.c. injection into athymic mice of human MDA-MB-231 breast carcinoma or rat v-K-ras-transformed thyroid epithelial cells and reduced lung metastases deriving from intrapaw injection of MDA-MB-231 cells. Judging from several experiments on its possible cellular and molecular mechanisms of action, we propose that cannabidiol lacks a unique mode of action in the cell lines investigated. At least for MDA-MB-231 cells, however, our experiments indicate that cannabidiol effect is due to its capability of inducing apoptosis via: direct or indirect activation of cannabinoid CB2 and vanilloid transient receptor potential vanilloid type-1 receptors and cannabinoid/vanilloid receptor-independent elevation of intracellular Ca2+ and reactive oxygen species. Our data support the further testing of cannabidiol and cannabidiol-rich extracts for the potential treatment of cancer.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:32:56 2015 No.7233958
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>>7232237
>and I'm worried its destroying my brain without me knowing.
That's a lifetime of brainwashing surfacing in your subconscious. They lied to you, anon. Ignore them and their guilt.

Cannabidiol and (−)Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol are neuroprotective antioxidants
http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8268.short

Neuroprotective properties of cannabinoids against oxidative stress: role of the cannabinoid receptor CB1
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.0022-3042.2001.00716.x/full

Cannabinoids and brain injury: therapeutic implications
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1471491402022761

Cannabinoids as Neuroprotective Agents
in Traumatic Brain Injury
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/cpd/2004/00000010/00000018/art00007

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:36:04 2015 No.7233961

>>7232363
>Literally retarded
Cannabis is not homeopathy you fucking retard. It is a scientifically proven and clinically tested medicine. I will remind you that more than half of all drugs in the pharmacopeia either still come from plants or were first isolated from them.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 10:37:07 2015 No.7233962 >>7232432 >What a load of bullshit. You just ignored like 50 peer reviewed studies to link to a fucking blog. How fucking pathetic.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:38:58 2015 No.7233968
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>>7232432
>What a load of bullshit.
The only thing you have done is project your own ignorance.

Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors
The Journal of Clinical Investigation.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC151833/
In cell culture experiments pharmacological activation of cannabinoid receptors induced the apoptotic death of tumorigenic epidermal cells, whereas the viability of nontransformed epidermal cells remained unaffected. Local administration of the mixed CB1/CB2 agonist WIN-55,212-2 or the selective CB2 agonist JWH-133 induced a considerable growth inhibition of malignant tumors generated by inoculation of epidermal tumor cells into nude mice. Cannabinoid-treated tumors showed an increased number of apoptotic cells. This was accompanied by impairment of tumor vascularization, as determined by altered blood vessel morphology and decreased expression of proangiogenic factors (VEGF, placental growth factor, and angiopoietin 2). Abrogation of EGF-R function was also observed in cannabinoid-treated tumors. These results support a new therapeutic approach for the treatment of skin tumors.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:40:09 2015 No.7233970
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>>7232432
>What a load of bullshit.
Cannabinoids Inhibit the Vascular Endothelial Growth Factor Pathway in Gliomas
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/64/16/5617.full
Because the vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) pathway plays a critical role in tumor angiogenesis, here we studied whether cannabinoids affect it.
Cannabinoid-induced inhibition of VEGF production and VEGFR-2 activation was abrogated both in vitro and in vivo by pharmacological blockade of ceramide biosynthesis. These changes in the VEGF pathway were paralleled by changes in tumor size (I.E. shrinking them). Moreover, intratumoral administration of the cannabinoid Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol to two patients with glioblastoma multiforme (grade IV astrocytoma) decreased VEGF levels and VEGFR-2 activation in the tumors. Because blockade of the VEGF pathway constitutes one of the most promising antitumoral approaches currently available, the present findings provide a novel pharmacological target for cannabinoid-based therapies.

Pic related you fucking moron. Go back to your chalk board and scribble some more abstract nonsense you autistic halfwit.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:41:10 2015 No.7233972
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>>7232432
>What a load of bullshit.
Antitumorigenic Effects of Cannabinoids beyond Apoptosis
Institute of Toxicology and Pharmacology, University of Rostock, Rostock, Germany
http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/332/2/336.2010.nih.nih.full
Over past years, the antitumorigenic effects of cannabinoids have emerged as an exciting field in cancer research. Apart from their proapoptotic and antiproliferative action, recent research has shown that cannabinoids may likewise affect tumor cell angiogenesis, migration, invasion, adhesion, and metastasization. This review will summarize the data concerning the influence of cannabinoids on these locomotive processes beyond modulation of cancer cell apoptosis and proliferation.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:42:12 2015 No.7233973
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>>7232432
>What a load of bullshit.
Cannabinoids Induce Apoptosis of Pancreatic Tumor Cells via Endoplasmic Reticulum Stress–Related Genes
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/66/13/6748.short
Pancreatic adenocarcinomas are among the most malignant forms of cancer and, therefore, it is of especial interest to set new strategies aimed at improving the prognostic of this deadly disease. The present study was undertaken to investigate the action of cannabinoids, a new family of potential antitumoral agents, in pancreatic cancer.
Cannabinoids also reduced the growth of tumor cells in two animal models of pancreatic cancer. In addition, cannabinoid treatment inhibited the spreading of pancreatic tumor cells. Moreover, cannabinoid administration selectively increased apoptosis and TRB3 expression in pancreatic tumor cells but not in normal tissue. In conclusion, results presented here show that cannabinoids lead to apoptosis of pancreatic tumor cells via a CB2 receptor and de novo synthesized ceramide-dependent up-regulation of p8 and the endoplasmic reticulum stress–related genes ATF-4 and TRB3.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:43:15 2015 No.7233975
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>>7232432
>What a load of bullshit.
Cannabidiol inhibits human glioma cell migration through a cannabinoid receptor-independent mechanism
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/sj.bjp.0706134/full
We evaluated the ability of cannabidiol (CBD) to impair the migration of tumor cells stimulated by conditioned medium. CBD caused concentration-dependent inhibition of the migration of U87 glioma cells, quantified in a Boyden chamber. Since these cells express both cannabinoid CB1 and CB2 receptors in the membrane, we also evaluated their engagement in the antimigratory effect of CBD. The inhibition of cell was not antagonized either by the selective cannabinoid receptor antagonists SR141716 (CB1) and SR144528 (CB2) or by pretreatment with pertussis toxin, indicating no involvement of classical cannabinoid receptors and/or receptors coupled to Gi/o proteins. These results reinforce the evidence of antitumoral properties of CBD, demonstrating its ability to limit tumor invasion, although the mechanism of its pharmacological effects remains to be clarified.

Anonymous Sun May 3 10:45:12 2015 No.7233980
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>>7232432
>What a load of bullshit.
I can literally do this all fucking day.

Cannabinoid receptor ligands as potential anticancer
agents -- high hopes for new therapies?
Journal of Pharmacy and Pharmacology
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1211/jpp.61.07.0002/pdf

This review critically discusses the pharmacology of CB receptor activations a novel therapeutic anticancer strategy in terms of ligand selectivity, tissue specificity and
potency. Intriguingly, antitumour effects mediated by cannabinoids are not confined to inhibition of cancer cell proliferation; cannabinoids also reduce angiogenesis, cell migration and metastasis, inhibit carcinogenesis and attenuate inflammatory processes.

All of the growth inhibitory mechanisms of cannabinoids discussed so far are direct cellular effects. However, cannabinoids can modulate intercellular signaling, leading to modulation of important regulatory factors involved in inflammation and cellular activation and thereby influence tumor development indirectly. In this regard, the effect of cannabinoid treatment on tumor angiogenesis ranks most
prominently. [83] Different cannabinoid compounds with varying CB1 and CB2 receptor affinities decrease the formation of new blood vessels in tumours of different origin.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 10:47:26 2015 No.7233982 File: 160 KB, 1024x807, 1-1024x807.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7232432 >What a load of bullshit. Pic related. Its something you obviously know nothing about.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 10:48:47 2015 No.7233984 File: 189 KB, 960x542, happiest dog in the world.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7232838 >On a scale of 1 to 10, how well researched and up to date is pic related? 1

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 10:53:35 2015 No.7233991 >>7232237 Consumerism and Advertising is already destroying your brain.

Anonymous Sun May 3 11:05:38 2015 No.7234009

>>7232336
From personal experience, the chill effect is the equivalent of being tipsy from Alcohol. When I get super-high, my thought processes are released from my usual bias. It helps me see stuff in completely different perspectives, and also allows me to focus solely on certain physics theories; away from any other distractions.

I don't recommend getting this high constantly, especially as it can be quite intense, but it can still be very beneficial.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 11:15:46 2015 No.7234031 >>7233366 >jail for känäbis

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 11:42:26 2015 No.7234072 >>7227354 It fucks up your delicate brain chemistry which might cause damage

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 11:55:22 2015 No.7234088 Smoking weed triggered a psychotic episode which made me jump out of a 3 story high window against pavement. Ask me anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 11:57:14 2015 No.7234091 >>7228235 Slightly. Didn't see this post when it appeared, so this reply is way too late. >>7234088 Is your first thought when you walk into a room "Hmm, I wonder what it would be like to jump out of the windows"?

Anonymous Sun May 3 12:03:17 2015 No.7234093

>>7234088
No, my first thought is evaluating if I'm safe.
I jumped out of the window because I was absolutely sure I was in danger.
I experienced auditory hallucinations that triggered my fight or flight response, and since the threat felt so supernatural, the only logical course of action was to escape through the fastest most direct route.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 13:20:56 2015 No.7234226 ITT potheads seeking validation

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 13:37:16 2015 No.7234240 >>7234093 jumping out of a 3 story window which may kill you is hardly the "only logical course of action".

>>	ojew™ Sun May 3 14:35:55 2015 No.7234313 File: 103 KB, 800x467, 3646303-0039704525-Golde.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7228658 holy shit is that yajirobe?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 15:09:38 2015 No.7234369 File: 391 KB, 1068x790, Yajirobe.DBOpeningJapanese.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7234313 same thought I was so temped to just say ditto and post the Pokemon

Anonymous Sun May 3 15:15:24 2015 No.7234373

Scientific evidence (of which we have a lot) strongly suggests that cannabis use by adults has no serious negative effects and in fact has many positive effects, especially when compared to other recreational drugs.

It sucks that alcohol, which we know for certain is physically and psychologically addictive and very bad for your liver, heart and brain, is so widely available and used in society. I like beer but if cannabis was more widely available I have no doubt we would see a massive decrease in a wide variety of diseases and incidental harm/death such as drunk driving/drunk accidents.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 15:43:05 2015 No.7234419 >>7234072 >>7234072 >It fucks up your delicate brain chemistry which might cause damage Absolute bullshit. Large scale chronic abuse can TEMPORARILY impair your short term memory. That's it. Abusus Non Tollit Usum.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 15:44:46 2015 No.7234423 >>7234093 >the only logical course of action was to escape through the fastest most direct route. Nothing logical about that and you have a genetic predisposition.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 15:45:45 2015 No.7234426 >>7234093 I think the problem there was that you're just an idiot. Please don't blame psychoactive drugs for your own idiocy.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 15:54:15 2015 No.7234442 There's no bad drugs, just bad use

Anonymous Sun May 3 16:09:38 2015 No.7234464

>>7233962
50 peer reviewed studies you are misrepresenting.

>>7233968
>>7233970
>>7233972
>>7233973
>>7233975
>>7233980
Did you even read what I posted? It talks about everything you can throw. Clearly you are not interested in a discussion; you are just here to copy and paste an avalanche of links without making an argument. Your religious fervor does not translate into a scientific position. Cell culture experiments tell you little about how useful a substance will be in treating humans. There are thousands of substances that show good results against cancer cells in a petri dish. But no reputable scientist or doctor claims that any of them can cure or are even effective against cancer.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 16:21:18 2015 No.7234484 >>7234464 This guy is right, thousands of things show promise, you want weed to work? You best do your Science and try to prove it.

Anonymous Sun May 3 16:26:08 2015 No.7234491
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>>7234009
This ! I usually watch documentaries with dense content f.e space exploration Somehow, abstract thinking is enhanced while high.

There are some strains that don't work so well for me , if you are concearned about damaging your brain, avoid any weed that came from hidroponics, they kick hard due to more thc%.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 16:31:26 2015 No.7234499 >>7234464 Only guy in this whole thread with a brain (+ me maybe).

Anonymous Sun May 3 16:41:53 2015 No.7234514

>>7231906
See this is where I think the line is drawn

There's Cannabis Oil and extracts of the specific cannabinoids that get tested, and then there's smoking 420 all day erryday and people think because it's not legally available as a legal substance they can abuse like cigarettes and alcohol, it's some big deal.

It's just scheduled like every other drug, and you have some of the cannabinoids legal and used on kids, you have medical marijuana, and you have your extracts used for testing and clinical trials. All of that is necessary red tape so that doctors have the data to prescribe in certainty and insurance to cover the treatments

In the meantime, it's controlled because it just so happens to be that unlike aspirin or sunflower oil, cannabis is a popular choice for users that abuse substances

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 16:42:27 2015 No.7234515 >>7234464 He's not misrepesenting the studies, though. The claim is that cannabinoids have anti-tumour properties, which is supported by every study in the avalanche.

Anonymous Sun May 3 16:43:14 2015 No.7234517

>>7232351
>3 joints a day every day for a year and at one point something just snapped.

That's not much tho'.

>>7232356
>Well...I am a little bit schizophrenic but that is due to taking too much acid, not the weed.

You're one of those "biggest faggot of all time" - type of people.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 16:46:40 2015 No.7234526 >>7231945 That doc in your pic know's what's good tho'. Doesn't do good to defend your position, if you ask me faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 16:50:24 2015 No.7234529 >>7234526 Are you claiming that tinctures are nonsense?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 16:59:07 2015 No.7234544 File: 1.72 MB, 965x925, 4567uij.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] POO POO WILLY BUM BUM!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:00:45 2015 No.7234548 This kind of reminds me of that comic where OP asks a question and gets bombarded by different opinions

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:04:53 2015 No.7234553 >>7234426 >>7234423 >>7234240 Do you even know what a psychotic break is? I was obviously not thinking straight, I'm just sharing my thought process at the time.

Anonymous Sun May 3 17:06:26 2015 No.7234557

>>7234515
No, the claim is that cannabinoids have anti-cancer effects. No one gives a shit if it kills tumor cells that don't realistically represent cancer in the human body or in blood levels that could never be reached. If that's what you want to claim cannabinoids do, then fine. But the claim is being used to misrepresent cannabis as a miracle cure. It's a toxic mix of pseudoscientific herbalism and political deception. Weed doesn't need to be magic for it to be legalized. Turning it into a religion hurts the cause more than it helps anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:35:29 2015 No.7234611 >>7234557 Seems better than a toxic mix of pseudomoral chemophobia and political deception.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:39:11 2015 No.7234624 so much shilling and trolling going on in this thread. Keep it classy, /sci/.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:40:57 2015 No.7234625 >>7234611 >Seems better than genocide. Try using logic instead of false dichotomies. Pointing out that cannabis is not a magic cure for cancer does not make me anti-cannabis. Your aggressive idiocy alienates more than it convinces.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:42:16 2015 No.7234628 >>7234624 Shilling for what?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:47:55 2015 No.7234640 >>7234484 >You best do your Science and try to prove it. I already did. In this thread. You fucking ignored it. A) You're either too stupid to understand this data. B) Dishonest.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:49:19 2015 No.7234643 >>7234514 Cannabis is also both less toxic and less addictive than coffee so your puritanical moralism holds no water in an honest world.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:50:20 2015 No.7234646 File: 124 KB, 546x1280, dont do drugs lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7234515 >which is supported by every study in the avalanche. Troll would have known that if it had bothered to do ANY research whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:52:34 2015 No.7234651 File: 106 KB, 960x538, 1421598569208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7234557 You can live in clinical levels of denial all you want, that doesn't stop reality from being what it is. http://www.cureyourowncancer.org/testimonials.html

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:53:19 2015 No.7234653 >>7234640 Riiiiight, every cancer research group and doctor is just too stupid or too dishonest to say that weed cures cancer, because MUH CUNSPIRACY.

Anonymous Sun May 3 17:56:05 2015 No.7234661

>>7234643
>so your puritanical moralism
Do you even know the words you're saying?

>Cannabis is also both less toxic and less addictive than coffee
I highly doubt combusting and inhaling organic matter is less carcinogenic than what is basically chlorogenic acid and polyphenols, with the optional sugar and cream

Oh, you must mean the extracts, in which case, I didn't say anything that disagrees and your post was useless

Anonymous Sun May 3 17:56:44 2015 No.7234664
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>>7234653
>because MUH CUNSPIRACY.
Yes. The US government has known cannabis kills tumors since the 70s. They did everything within their power for more than 30 years to suppress data and block studies.
http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/pot_shrinks_tumors%3B_government_knew_in_%2774

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 17:58:53 2015 No.7234670 >>7234548 the one with all the greentext surrounding a terrified OP

Anonymous Sun May 3 17:59:27 2015 No.7234672
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>>7234661
>combusting and inhaling
Again, you are WRONG.
Google Dr. Tashkin you fucking moron. Largest and most thorough study of its kind EVER done:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/large-study-finds-no-link/
http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/10/study-smoking-marijuana-not-linked-with-lung-damage/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU

And I am correct. I posted all of the data that explains WHY I am correct, but you are either dishonestly ignoring it or too stupid to comprehend it. Go back to your chalk board and scribble some more theoretic numerical bullshit because you OBVIOUSLY can't into biochem.

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:00:34 2015 No.7234677

>>7234651
>Anecdotes
>weed cured my cancer because it went away at some point after I smoked weed
Wow, you're really showing us how scientific you are, buddy.

If anecdotal evidence was scientific, I'd have to scientifically conclude that weed turns you into a raving wacko who thinks weed is magic. That's what you're showing us in this thread.

>>7234664
What does that have to do with the fact that scientists and doctors who actually do this research you are misrepresenting disagree with you?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 18:01:48 2015 No.7234679 >>7234661 >Do you even know the words you're saying? Yes, actually, because to carry my 4.0 through premed I had to take medical terminology.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 18:03:24 2015 No.7234682 File: 161 KB, 640x351, defiance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7234677 >Wow, you're really showing us how scientific you are, buddy. >>7233972 >>7233970 >>7233968 >>7233950 >>7231906 >>7231895 >>7231894 BTFO

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:08:51 2015 No.7234700

>>7234672
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18238947
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283
More recent and larger studies show smoking marijuana has the same lung cancer risk as tobacco.

>>7234682
Already replied to all those posts. You can't just ignore the opinions of researchers and doctors while facetiously using their own research to support your position.

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:08:53 2015 No.7234701
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>>7234677
>scientists and doctors who actually do this research
Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®)
National Cancer Institute
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4

Oh, you mean those people trying everything within their power to protect their revenue stream from a plant that can be grown for free that would cut their business in half over night? Yeah, I can understand the motivation but, see, I'm not evil. I wouldn't deny relief to suffering people just because I'm not rich enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 18:10:01 2015 No.7234705 >>7234700 >More recent >2008 Fucking liar.

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:12:35 2015 No.7234713

>>7234700
>You can't just ignore the opinions of researchers
Largest and most thorough study of its kind EVER done:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/large-study-finds-no-link/
http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/10/study-smoking-marijuana-not-linked-with-lung-damage/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU

See, the difference between Tashkin and your "researcher" with their niggerdly algorithm (fuck you and your psychotic love for twisted bullshit math /sci/) is that Tashkin is HONEST. He didn't find the results he wanted and instead of LYING about it and using algorithms to lie for him, he told the TRUTH.

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:13:15 2015 No.7234715

>>7234672
>Again, you are WRONG
Ok, this is where I stop and clear the air when dealing with lunatics

1) What is it you think I am wrong about?
2) What do you think we are really talking about here? Don't say weed, I mean from my two posts you have replied to, what are they about. Leading to my next question
3) From my own post
>I highly doubt combusting and inhaling organic matter is less carcinogenic than what is basically chlorogenic acid and polyphenols

How does any of your studies particularly compare what I posted about? Do they talk about the metabolic pathways chlorogenic acid go through?

What I think is happening, is that perhaps because of what I said one sentence, you projected it into an entire new discussion that you feel more comfortable in having. I think you actually spent hours into this thread performing this exact behavior, which I think is ironic, based on your choice of language here
>but you are either dishonestly ignoring it or too stupid to comprehend it
and here
>your puritanical moralism holds no water in an honest world.

>>7234679
How do you feel that adds to the discussion? Do you think anyone that went through premed now can copy and paste links with authority?

With this statement,
>theoretic numerical bullshit because you OBVIOUSLY can't into biochem.
it seems like you won't allow anyone to enter the fray of debate, unless they fit into this framework you've built up for yourself

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:33:17 2015 No.7234741
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>>7234715
>How do you feel that adds to the discussion? Do you think anyone that went through premed now can copy and paste links with authority?

The question was that of grasping the nomenclature. How heavy are those goal posts?

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:38:49 2015 No.7234755

>>7234701
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page7

>Oh, you mean those people trying everything within their power to protect their revenue stream from a plant that can be grown for free that would cut their business in half over night?
Yup, it's a conspiracy. Science is just a way to get money. Got it.

>>7234705
The articles you posted are from 2006 and 2012. The second study I posted is larger by an order of magnitude and from 2013, and it's a 40 year cohort.

>>7234713
Yeah you already posted that. Losing track of your copying and pasting or are you just not able to respond to the argument?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 18:41:07 2015 No.7234758 >>7234741 The words you used were "puritanical moralism". What does your medical education have to do with it?

Anonymous Sun May 3 18:47:52 2015 No.7234767

>>7234701
>>7234713
I love this. This is the point at which you know you are arguing with a true believer. Science and medicine are corrupt when they disagree with him. This is no different from people who deny AIDS, vaccines, or global warming.

Time to abandon thread and leave this nutter to his echo chamber.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 18:53:21 2015 No.7234776 >>7234517 >That's not much tho'. Yes it is, it's a humongous waste of plant material and totally excessive.

Anonymous Sun May 3 19:09:37 2015 No.7234808
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>>7234767
>This is the point at which you know you are arguing with a true believer.
Ladies and gentlemen, take notes. The above is the textbook definition of psychological projection.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 19:11:11 2015 No.7234812 File: 76 KB, 960x804, marijuana-map.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7234755 >Yeah you already posted that. And I will do it AGAIN because you ignored it. >>7234701 >>7233980 >>7233975 >>7233973 >>7233972 >>7233970 >>7233968

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 19:36:11 2015 No.7234866 Let the games begin.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 19:54:12 2015 No.7234927 It's been shown to cause lower IQs in rats

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 20:24:46 2015 No.7234995 File: 37 KB, 1921x695, 1423108152246.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7234491 Although this flowchart relates more to psychedelic drugs, it applies somewhat to the effects of Cannabis

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 20:29:47 2015 No.7235001 >>7234808 fuckin marijuana prohibition, why u gotta go kill that girl

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 20:42:30 2015 No.7235024 >>7234812 How did I ignore it? I gave you a more recent, much larger, longer running study that disagrees. You're the one ignoring the evidence because it doesn't agree with your religion.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 21:11:08 2015 No.7235070 This thread isn't fun to watch anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 3 21:12:56 2015 No.7235077 this is how you troll.

Anonymous Mon May 4 01:07:21 2015 No.7235528

>>7231888
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Wow, I love this thread. Am 3rd year biochem/molecular biology student and this is motivation to continue my studies.

Anonymous Mon May 4 01:46:04 2015 No.7235564

>>7235001
>>7234808
On the other hand, the teams going in heavy for marijuana raids have killed several parents and children. Yet alcoholics roam the streets and come home to beat their children and spouses.

Im no fanatic either, but there is a point where enforcement of a law causes a great deal more harm than the offense.

Law:
The system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties.

The better option is to regulate and tax it, but if not, at the very least fit the enforcement to the severity of the crime.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 02:59:24 2015 No.7235621 >>7227375 Well good luck getting any pro-cannabis results through peer review then.

Anonymous Mon May 4 05:41:12 2015 No.7235760

>>7227354

People with problems will always try and treat their symptoms for those problems. Drugs help do that, whether they are official "medicines" with patents and sold by fancy men in suits or not.

The laws against marijuana is not about protecting anyone, it's about making money. As so many other laws are. How make money selling medicines if people are allowed to grow their own medicine in their back yard?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 05:49:09 2015 No.7235775 >>7235621 >waaah the lizardmen are blocking cannabis in case we open our third eyes and see what they are!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 05:49:14 2015 No.7235776 >>7227360 add potential correlation between chronic use and infertility

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 05:49:24 2015 No.7235777 >>7232356 Schizofrenia like symptoms can be triggered by psychosocial harrasment too. So it may not be the weed but some people whom you've pissed off a bit too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 05:50:24 2015 No.7235781 >>7232459 No it smells sweet. Next question.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 05:52:18 2015 No.7235782 >>7235775 Nah. No Lizardmen. More likely shills from pharma industry in peer-review positions who realize legalized cannabis would reduce income from their patented medicines.

Anonymous Mon May 4 06:00:01 2015 No.7235789

>>7227436
>I think it causes memory loss, I used it in excess as a teen and noticed myself having a hard time remembering names and when things are due. Minuscule stuff that I used to just store in my head and remember later.

There is evidence to suggest that if young people smoke an excessive amount of weed this happens. It's possible you were just unlucky

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 06:02:21 2015 No.7235792 >>7235789 But almost no one advocates it to be legal before like 18 or 20 years old.

Anonymous Mon May 4 06:13:23 2015 No.7235807

>>7235792
And? I didn't say anything about that, besides there isn't an efficient way to enforce that. When I was in high school getting drunk was a fairly common thing with getting high not far behind. Regardless, I don't really care either way, I was just responding to that anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 06:17:16 2015 No.7235814 >>7234640 MOTHERFUCKER what degree are you holding you piece of shit, I'm not talking about copypasting literature go do your research to uncover what you want to find out.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 06:19:47 2015 No.7235816 >>7235528 You see this guy is the one I respect, not for posting links but for going through the right process that will take him to uncovering results.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 08:20:42 2015 No.7235950 >>7235807 There isn't an efficient way to enforce it when it's illegal for adults either. Like 25% of senior high schoolers report having tried marihuana. >>7235814 You can't "uncover" what hasn't gotten the OK stamp from reviews.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 08:21:34 2015 No.7235951 >>7235950 Compare that to alcohol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 08:45:56 2015 No.7235980 >>7235951 But if it's illegal there is also probably some amount of people who lie and say they haven't tried it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 08:48:53 2015 No.7235984 >>7235980 Or maybe lie that they have tried it

Anonymous Mon May 4 08:52:58 2015 No.7235990

>>7235984
What is there to gain to lie that they have broken the law? Worst case they get into the police registry and then won't get an apartment, a bank loan or a job.. basically their future would be ruined. I think with that into account... 25% is an extremely high number.

Anonymous Mon May 4 09:16:03 2015 No.7236030

Can we all at least agree that CBD has SOME positive medical effects?
I'm not going to argue for or against legalisation or even whether it has an effect on cancer cells, but can we all agree that there are some decidedly positive effects and some decidedly negative effects caused by cannabis oil, or smoking cannabis, or vaping cannabis?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 09:19:42 2015 No.7236037 >>7235760 >The laws against marijuana is not about protecting anyone, it's about making money. As evidenced by all the top lobbying groups against cannabis: http://www.republicreport.org/2012/marijuana-lobby-illegal/

Anonymous Mon May 4 09:22:33 2015 No.7236042

>>7236030
Yes it is outlawed because it is too good. If people could use it legally they'd not buy "real" medicine. Could actually be bad, since who would invest in research to make better medicine if that was the case?

>>7236037
Oh it was only place 4. I thought it was higher up. Of course police and prisons make money on persecution also. Didn't even think of that one.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 12:55:59 2015 No.7236339 >>7236042 >Of course police and prisons make money on persecution also. Of course. Most of the people in jail are there for petty drug offenses.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 13:26:23 2015 No.7236400 >>7232244 Well, actually it's the opposite, it helps grow brain cells but since it doesn't necessarily follow a given pattern it may create brain damage. Or transform you into Einstein but you'd probably got more luck with a lotto ticket.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 13:39:06 2015 No.7236438 >>7235782 >Good luck getting anti-agw results through peer review >Good luck getting pro-intelligent-design results through peer review >Good luck getting anti-vaccine results through peer review IDS A CUNSPIRACY

Anonymous Mon May 4 13:45:20 2015 No.7236457

>>7236042
>Yes it is outlawed because it is too good. If people could use it legally they'd not buy "real" medicine.
topkek, so now you're going full hippy and claiming weed is a miracle drug that replaces real medicine. This is just new age herbalism. Fuck off nutjob.

Anonymous Mon May 4 14:07:12 2015 No.7236510

>>7236400
>but since it doesn't necessarily follow a given pattern it may create brain damage.
Absolute bullshit. See:
>>7233958
There are literally thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers on the benefits of natural cannabinoids. Natural cannabinoid extracts (AKA hash oil) are antiinflammatories, tumor fighting agents in vivo and vitro; they stop angiogenesis (brand new blood vessels) to tumors, they are neuroprotective antioxidants, and they induce apoptosis (suicide) in cancer cells.

Cannabinoids protect the myelin sheath (the fatty layer that protects your neurons) and promote remyelination. Myelin is like the insulation on an electrical wire. Cannabinoids actually prevent cell damage and death from ethanol poisoning by their nature as an antioxidant. And that's why it helps so much with neurological pain and diseases, such as: Several kinds of epilepsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinson's, and intractable neuropathic pain.

We don't have a large amount of Cannabinoid receptors in the Medulla Oblongata, the part of the Brain that controls respiration and heart rate. Large doses of many other drugs (like morphine and Valium) can cause respiratory depression, cardiac suppression, coma and death. Massive marijuana doses might make people fall asleep but consequently will not stop their breathing or heart.

There are over 480 natural components found within the Cannabis sativa plant, of which roughly 66 have been classified as "cannabinoids;" chemicals unique to the plant. The most well known and researched of these, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), is the substance primarily responsible for the psychoactive effects of cannabis.

Synthetic THC (Marinol) has proved itself so harmless that in an almost unprecedented move it was moved from schedule II, next to legal cocaine, methamphetamine and morphine down to schedule III. The plant, which is both more medically effective and less mentally intoxicating, remains schedule I -illegal federally.

Anonymous Mon May 4 14:09:45 2015 No.7236514
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>>7236457
>This is just new age herbalism.
I understand you are desperately trying to protect your revenue stream, shill, and that is precisely why you will be completely ignored. Your opinion is completely unsubstantiated and 100% clouded by bias.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 14:10:53 2015 No.7236515 >>7236457 >new age herbalism. That's funny, considering there is documented medical use of cannabis going back several thousand years.

Anonymous Mon May 4 14:23:18 2015 No.7236540

>>7236510
>There are literally thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers on the benefits of natural cannabinoids.
Aren't you the one arguing that good results won't get past peer review because of muh conspiracy? Which one is it? You can't use research to argue for marijuana and then dismiss the conclusions of the experts who did the research as corrupt simply because they don't find that marijuana is magic. That's the definition of cherrypicking.

Also, why are you copying and pasting? https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/39173092/

Anonymous Mon May 4 14:25:39 2015 No.7236543

>>7236514
>I understand you are desperately trying to protect your revenue stream, shill, and that is precisely why you will be completely ignored. Your opinion is completely unsubstantiated and 100% clouded by bias.
Calling someone a paid shill so you can avoid the argument is the definition of irrationality and religious thinking. Do you really think you are convincing anyone intelligent with your ridiculous conspiracy logic?

Anonymous Mon May 4 15:09:41 2015 No.7236631

>>7236540
>Aren't you the one arguing that good results won't get past peer review because of muh conspiracy?
No. I'm the one arguing that the US government has done everything within their power for 30+ years to hide the truth. And there's far more than enough to prove that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 15:10:41 2015 No.7236634 >>7236540 >Also, why are you copying and pasting? Because I am the one who did the original research you fucking psychopath.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 15:13:14 2015 No.7236641 >>7236543 >conspiracy http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/pot_shrinks_tumors%3B_government_knew_in_%2774 That's exactly what it is.

Anonymous Mon May 4 15:24:24 2015 No.7236663

Personal Experience :

After abusing psychedelics and weed for several years, weed now gives me strong hallucinations and severe paranoia so i don't smoke it any more.

I miss weed and now all i have is alcohol.

I've found that my memory, concentration and ability to think and plan about my future has increased massively since stopping smoking weed every day.

I recognize most people have no problem using it but it was definitely having a serious negative impact on my life.

Anonymous Mon May 4 15:25:24 2015 No.7236668

>>7236631
>No. I'm the one arguing that the US government has done everything within their power for 30+ years to hide the truth. And there's far more than enough to prove that.
Then how are there all these studies on cannabis? On the one hand you claim there is all this evidence that cannabis cures cancer. On the other you are saying that doctors and scientists don't agree because the government is hiding the truth. Which one is it? The fact is that doctors and scientists are aware of all of these studies, but they don't mean what you are trying to say they mean. You have yet to respond to the arguments here: http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/#can-treat

All you've done is call scientists shills. That's not a response, it's a pathetic cop out.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 15:38:36 2015 No.7236692 >>7236515 How is that funny? New Age is just a rehashing of old mysticism into a jumbled mess of superstition. The veneration of weed as a miracle drug falls squarely into that.

Anonymous Mon May 4 15:50:16 2015 No.7236721

>>7236634
Oh really? So you're Zomgtforly? Because I found the page you've basically copied everything from. Interestingly though, this post >>7236510 comes from a quote on that page. So either you are the person who made the page, meaning you posted a quote of someone else as your own words, or you are the author of the quote, meaning none of this is your original research. I'm guessing the former.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:02:23 2015 No.7236882 >>7236663 >now all i have is alcohol. Why'd you leave out the psychedelics, though? It's not like you have to start abusing them again.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:02:58 2015 No.7236884 >>7236668 >Then how are there all these studies on cannabis? Most of them NOT done in the US, retard. And since its legal in a couple states now with more soon to follow there will be a lot more studies done here.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:04:10 2015 No.7236888 >>7236721 >meaning none of this is your original research. Incorrect. Now go die in a fire you worthless pig.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:05:57 2015 No.7236891 >>7236668 >blog No I don't have to respond to a bullshit blog from the UK. I posted original source material which is where I draw my info from. Fuck you and your blog.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:09:00 2015 No.7236900 >>7229798 Godfuckingdamnit. If you feel your heart skip a beat when smoking weed just don't fucking smoke. Holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:22:26 2015 No.7236931 >>7236900 >just don't fucking smoke. Or don't hold your breath for long periods when you take a hit.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:27:48 2015 No.7236941 File: 19 KB, 320x342, disgust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >being as butthurt as OP, ever

Anonymous Mon May 4 17:48:36 2015 No.7236990

>>7236884
Almost all of the links you posted are from the NCBI database. Do you realize that the NCBI is a US government institution?

>>7236888
So you posted shit someone else said as your own words, just as I said.

>>7236891
OK, so I don't have to respond to all of your posts which are just copies of a post on a social media site. Everything you've said has been countered by actual scientists and you are ignoring it because you can't answer. You lose.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 17:57:01 2015 No.7237003 >>7236888 >>7236891 This guy is so butthurt because scientists won't say weed is magic

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 18:09:46 2015 No.7237023 File: 195 KB, 947x1280, F1.large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7237003 >magic Nothing magic about it. Mammals have an endocannabinoid system. In fact, its one of the oldest brain systems because sea squirts have it too.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 18:11:57 2015 No.7237025 File: 39 KB, 614x299, strawman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7237003 >because scientists won't say weed is magic Your logical fallacy is:

Anonymous Mon May 4 19:20:03 2015 No.7237133

>>7228340
Tea, especially green tea is usually riddled with pesticide residue and fluoride, as a matter of fact, Tea is such a good absorbent of fluoride and other toxins that some agriculturalists use it to cure land of toxin spills and/or infertile soil due to contaminants.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 19:30:02 2015 No.7237155 >>7227354 I really want to sage this now, dammit I'm a physical chemist not biomed or something, gonna leave you all to argue about weed, it still fucking smells.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:40:38 2015 No.7237303 >>7237155 >it still fucking smells. FUCK you AND your opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:43:25 2015 No.7237310 >>7237303 >>7237155 Personally I love the smell

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 20:43:45 2015 No.7237311 >>7237133 You sound lost. Sure you're on the right board?

Anonymous Mon May 4 22:00:08 2015 No.7237431
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>>7232324

for a number of grad-level math courses -- mainly logic, graph theory, and algorithms shit -- all of the work i submitted consisted of proofs that i sketched while high.

Anonymous Mon May 4 22:09:25 2015 No.7237453

>>7237023
Every neurological drug has a receptor, that doesn't mean you get to ascribe it the status of a miracle cure for cancer when there is no scientific evidence that it is. Again, this is simply magical thinking. Just because you want weed to be a cure doesn't mean it is. You are doing harm to your cause, both by exaggerating the effects of cannabinoids and by telling gullible people to forgo real medical treatment for snake oil. As I said from the start, you should not be telling people that weed is magic just because you legalize it.

Anonymous Mon May 4 22:13:41 2015 No.7237464
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>bum in high school
>straight edge, never touched a drug
>no desire for school
>hate math and science and think it sucks
>start smoking weed right before college
>stumble upon Richard Feynman video while absolutely toasted
>everything makes sense
>deep realizations that science is real and shit like stars actually exist
>mfw science books are based on real things and it took marijuana for me to realize this
>mfw math is awesome
>mfw limit definition of the derivative was the first time math made me say "holy fuck" out loud
>mfw physics and math became my favorite things
>mfw transferring from community college to real university after completely turning my life around

Thanks cannabis.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:41:54 2015 No.7237644 >>7236438 Straw man. Those may be blocked or censored for the "correct" reasons, but definitely some things of merit gets blocked because "we'd earn less money if people know of this".

Anonymous Mon May 4 23:48:15 2015 No.7237658

>>7236457
It's not a "miracle drug". It does relieve chronic pain and have many other benefits which would probably compete very efficiently with legal drugs if people were allowed to grow it.

>>7236540
>Aren't you the one arguing that good results won't get past peer review because of muh conspiracy?

No that was me. And it's not a contradiction, because it may not be 100% of the reviewers who are getting their income from said companies, but it may have been enough to brake progress considerably.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 4 23:50:14 2015 No.7237661 >>7236721 Or you could have made the page yourself to make your opponent look more crazy than they are ;)

Anonymous Tue May 5 00:13:04 2015 No.7237735
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>>7237644
>Those may be blocked or censored for the "correct" reasons, but definitely some things of merit gets blocked because "we'd earn less money if people know of this".
Oh I'm so glad we have you to tell us which is which.

>>7237661
1. How could I have made a page in the past full of posts he is making now?
2. Why is he copying and pasting from the page if it makes him look crazy?

Anonymous Tue May 5 00:16:48 2015 No.7237743

>>7237658
See http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/#conspiracy

And http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2012/07/25/cannabis-cannabinoids-and-cancer-the-evidence-so-far/#patent

Enough with the retarded conspiracy logic.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 00:23:41 2015 No.7237763 >>7237743 YES /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 00:54:47 2015 No.7237819 >>7227354 Interesting >>>/b/613885312

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 01:12:51 2015 No.7237840 File: 108 KB, 1920x1080, u86f8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7236510 >>There are literally thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers on the benefits of natural cannabinoids and why do you seek benefits exactly ?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:56:45 2015 No.7238338 >>7237453 >when there is no scientific evidence that it is. INCORRECT. >>7234812

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 07:58:59 2015 No.7238341 >>7237763 >YES >/thread same fagging this hard, its pathetic

Anonymous Tue May 5 08:22:25 2015 No.7238363
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>>7237743
>Enough with the retarded conspiracy logic.
Your pathetic limey blog has less than a dozen primary sources, 3 of which are them citing themselves. I gave you well over 50 primary sources and you ignored them all. Fuck you and your blog.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 16:22:38 2015 No.7239144 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue May 5 16:23:59 2015 No.7239149 >>7239144 NO WHY, LET'S JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE Let those who support Marijuana campaign for it, and those who do not can have their merry way.

Anonymous Wed May 6 02:29:46 2015 No.7240454

it doesnt have enough serious long term or short term health effects to be concerned about making it illegal. its like making caffeine illegal. dont worry about it unless your brain hasnt finished developing. anyone under the age of about 24 should avoid all chronic use of drugs, to be on the safe side. HAHAHAHAHAA AS IF

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 10:20:17 2015 No.7240970 >>7240454 >it doesnt have enough serious long term or short term health effects to be concerned about making it illegal. Exactly. And its very beneficial for millions of people who use it to ease suffering in one way or another.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 6 15:09:39 2015 No.7241462 File: 78 KB, 1324x1069, Cannabinoid-Structures1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7239149 >LET'S JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE You mean I should just agree to let you continue living in and spewing forth your delusions. No thanks, I'll pass.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 09:11:46 2015 No.7243271 bumping for Texas

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 13:13:15 2015 No.7243706 bumping again

Anonymous Thu May 7 13:38:31 2015 No.7243785

>>7227360
It also it makes you an annoying overly friendly douche bag.

>Friend smokes weed
>Hey bud are we still friends
>Do you like me
>Hey want to go do something really stupid (like take one of my swords from my collection and try to cut a tree with it)

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 13:39:39 2015 No.7243789 >>7243785 The whole time he is hugging you, and clinging onto you.. I get not everyone is like this but still, its annoying.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 13:40:38 2015 No.7243792 >>7243785 It stops you from being a dick. Wow. What a horrible effect. You should try smoking more weed.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 13:44:57 2015 No.7243803 Is there any benefits to smoking concentrated CBD?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 13:46:17 2015 No.7243804 >>7231895 >Drinking good enough for these fuckin losers Also I've never heard of George Washington smoking cannabis, hemp maybe, but I didn't even think people knew of cannabises smoking properties as far back as 1799.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 13:47:28 2015 No.7243808 >>7243792 no normally, he is a pretty cool guy, but when he gets high, he does dumb stuff, and gets really emotional.

Anonymous Thu May 7 14:01:33 2015 No.7243847
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>>7229088
Get Everclear 195 proof and get that weak shit out of here.
Also, bake 250 for 25 minutes, then boil alcohol +cannabis tincture in hot water bath for same amount of time for quick, or mix together and store in a cool, dark place for at least 14 days for 100% absorbtion of THC (approx 85% with one round of boiling).

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 14:04:54 2015 No.7243850 >>7243803 >Is there any benefits to smoking concentrated CBD? You're better off taking it orally. Or topically if you're treating something like skin ailments or skin cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 14:10:09 2015 No.7243857 >>7243847 I know the pic is kind of obnoxiously written (in that uniquely stoner way of being obnoxious), but I'll be damned if that isn't the best cannabis tincture recipe I've come across.

Anonymous Thu May 7 14:10:25 2015 No.7243858
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>>7243804
>Also I've never heard of George Washington smoking cannabis, hemp maybe,

Washington grew Indica which is not hemp, it is useless for making rope. It is a small bushy plants great for medicine.
"Make the most of the Indian hemp seed (now known as Cannabis Indica) and sew it everywhere."
--George Washington.
You can find this quote in his personal writings in the Library of Congress. As well as many other because several of our founders grew cannabis for both industry and medicine.

>but I didn't even think people knew of cannabises smoking properties as far back as 1799.

Then you clearly know very little of history because this is recorded in writing as far back as Herodotus in the Western world and much much further back in China.

ca. 440 BCE
In Book IV of his Histories, Herodotus further elaborates on the Scythians and their use of cannabis:
"Hemp grows in Scythia: it is very like flax; only that it is a much coarser and taller plant: some grows wild about the country, some is produced by cultivation: the Thracians make garments of it which closely resemble linen; so much so, indeed, that if a person has never seen hemp he is sure to think they are linen, and if he has, unless he is very experienced in such matters, he will not know of which material they are.

The Scythians, as I said, take some of this hemp, and, creeping under the felt coverings, throw it upon the red-hot stones; immediately it smokes, and gives out such a vapour as no Grecian vapour-bath can exceed; the Scyths, delighted, shout for joy, and this vapour serves them instead of a water-bath; for they never by any chance wash their bodies with water."

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 14:12:59 2015 No.7243865 >>7243858 >sew Woops. Typo. Should read: sow.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 18:31:06 2015 No.7244387 Come on. Where did the debate go?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 7 19:30:39 2015 No.7244526 >>7234553 You're not an idiot, just not mature in the mind. Meditation...

Anonymous Thu May 7 20:41:02 2015 No.7244711

>>7235950
>There isn't an efficient way to enforce it when it's illegal for adults either. Like 25% of senior high schoolers report having tried marihuana.

That's.. fine? What is your point? I'd agree with that point and nothing I posted contradicted that

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