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7087909 No.7087909 [Reply] [Original]

So have we learned anything from the billions of euros spent on the LHC? Did we gain any new knowledge that has new practical applications in any way?

>> No.7087911

>>7087909
basically.... meh.

>> No.7087912

>intimate knowledge of the universe's mechanics
>no practical applications
niga wat

>> No.7087916

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

>> No.7087921

>>7087916
Yeah, but we already had a theory for the higgs boson (i.e. the Standard Model). Did we actually come up with any new theories or new technologies that could make a difference in my life?

>> No.7087924

>>7087921
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson#.22Real_world.22_impact

>> No.7087930

>>7087921
idiot

>> No.7087954
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7087954

OP is your name Kevin by any chance?

>> No.7087965

>>7087954
Such... retards... I... can't... take it anymore.

>> No.7087970

>>7087954
holy fuck I am mad

>> No.7088032

>>7087930
>>7087954
Yeah, instead of giving real explanations, let's just throw ad hominem attacks at anyone who doesn't have my narrow world view.

>> No.7088038

>>7087954
dude. Is this real life?

>> No.7088040
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7088040

>>7087909
>Did we gain any new knowledge that has new practical applications in any way?

Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.

>> No.7088065

>>7088032
>things with practical value are the only valuable things
>being a pragmatic materialist
and you say our world views are narrow?

>> No.7088067

>>7088032
maybe in a few years, these discoveries will be useful. But, by now, they only help us understand the universe a little better, which is not a bad thing.

>> No.7088240

>>7087909
>have we learned anything
What do you mean by "we", Peasant?

>> No.7088297

>>7087954
Just... Wow.

>> No.7088301

>>7088297
I had to look those people up to make sure they weren't spoof accounts. Fucking hell...

>> No.7088336

>>7088240
humanity

>> No.7088344

>>7088040
Masturbation is to sex what mathematics is to physics. Same feeling, different process.

>> No.7088363

>>7088344
At my university, the math people, compared to the physics people, look like they might actually mate occasionally.

>> No.7088368

>>7088344
Your mathematical culture must be very thin.

>> No.7088961

>>7087921
They observed things that contradicted the prior model.

New theories were made to explain some of those. Others are still unexplained.

In short, we have a little better understanding of how the universe works.

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7088995

>>7088040
> Physics is like sex
The people who do it are always trying to get money for more.

Those of us who don't get it just wish they would shut the fuck up about it.

>> No.7089175

>>7088336
>as though humanity cares about anything other than eating and breeding
no, humanity hasn't learned a thing from LHC

>> No.7089184

>>7088363
True, unfortunately. I have this new lab partner, who is the fucking worst. He has this super annoying high pitched voice, looks a little like a rat, stinks, wears pullovers (like, two) that are close to ten years old and falling apart and takes lab work annoyingly serious. I just feel so sorry for myself that I have to work with people like him. I mean, I hate myself for thinking that, but I just like to be around people who have some personality and who don't think hygiene is a waste of time. Especially latter is something that I can't protect myself from. If someone stinks, it's fucking over. I can't get over that, never.

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7089189

>>7088344

>> No.7089192

>>7088301
>>7088297
>>7088038
>>7087970
>>7087965
>being this new
excuse me but this board is for 18 and up

>> No.7089197

The LHC is reopening next month, after 2 years of improvements.
Now they are after supersymmetric particles.

>> No.7089205

>>7087954
>BOOM ROASTED!

All of my tears, these are quite possibly the most purebred pair of retards I ever laid eyes on. Even an atheist can tell this is truly a match made in heaven.
I thought /threading your own post's was high on the narcissist scale. I was wrong. kickin' cripples in wheel chairs and saying BOOM ROASTED! are many magnitudes beyond.

>> No.7089210

>>7089205
>Even an atheist can tell this is truly a match made in heaven
*tips fedora*

>> No.7089241

>>7088995
lol genius

>> No.7089247

>>7087921
Experiments are not able to create new theories, only disprove old ones.

>> No.7089287

>>7087909
nothing relevant

>> No.7089313
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7089313

>>7087954
>tfw according to the multiverse theory somewhere these people are absolutely right

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7089356

you can learn more on DMT

>> No.7089363

>>7087954
I like it, it's pretty swanky if I do say so myself.

>> No.7089367

>>7089356
Really? Show me your data.

>> No.7089386

>>7088032
>instead of giving real explanations, let's just throw ad hominem attacks
you were given a real explanation in the 2nd and 5th answer to your thread
the fact that you choose to ignore them and claim that none have been given just further proves your retardation, kevin

>> No.7089442

>>7089386
So the answer is no? There are no current practical applications of the results coming out of the LHC? In fact it seems like it didn't even give a any thing close to a conclusive result on the supersymmetry vs multiverse debate.

A $20 billion dollar experiment that took 25 years and the productivity of thousands of talented people basically kinda confirmed that some of the stuff we theorized about particle physics is true (i.e. the higgs actually exists).

>> No.7089448

>>7089442
>A $20 billion dollar experiment that took 25 years and the productivity of thousands of talented people basically kinda confirmed that some of the stuff we theorized about particle physics is true (i.e. the higgs actually exists).

dude, the governments and research institutions of the world spend more resources on less fruitful experiments all the time.

science is a trial and error boondoggle that only pays off every once in a while.

>> No.7089482

>>7087954

This shit still does the trick... it pisses me off, on the same magnitude as the first time I read it

>> No.7089504

>>7089442
Not him, but why do you think science needs to have a practical application? It can be done just for the beauty of it.

>> No.7089519

Even more important than its operation is the publicity, the benefits of which have yet to be quantified. Hopefully everyone from world leaders to creepy unenthusiastic elementary school science teachers will be more cognisent of science and the need for funding, education, and exposition. And hopefully more students will be interested in science. Of course this will not be the case if the majority opinion is ignorant and uninformed like OP and the Fox news lady showing a clip of a shrimp on a treadmill and screaming NOT WITH MY TAX DOLLARS
And of course, like a lot of EU faggotry the LHC was a very financially risky publicity stunt, and the eurofags wouldnt stop shouting "look at our multinational team collaborating! EU is best U! Look America, we're totally not trying to compare ourselves to you! We even hired some brown people! LOOOOOOOK! EVERYTHING WE DO IS IN THE SPIRIT OF PROGRESS AND BETTERMENT OF HUMANITY, NOT Like USA WHERE THEY RESEARCH ICKY GUNS GROSS. WHEN WE AREN'T DOING RESEARCH WE EAT MUESLI AND HOLD HANDS LOOOOOOOOK"
The US has particle accelerators, and they would have built one just as big as the lhc if feasibility studies hadn't determined that it wasn't worth it. So basically the EU did another one of its famous "we're so unified we spent more money than we have" stunts and teamed up with the Nobel prize committee to squeeze out more publicity. hopefully it pans out financially, but I'll be damned if it isn't the biggest scientific circle jerk of the modern world

>> No.7089524

Nope. Technology used to test the existence of a phenomena is necessarily the cheapest technology related to that phenomena.

So no technology that uses the higgs boson can cost less than the LHC.