This little fucking shit I am so mad. All I did was give them a simple EC assignment because I'm nice and he turns me in this. He's a smart kid and all, really smart, but god fucking dammit he fucks up simple things like this. HOW?

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Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:31:11 2015 No.7081182 [DELETED]

This little fucking shit I am so mad.

All I did was give them a simple EC assignment because I'm nice and he turns me in this.

He's a smart kid and all, really smart, but god fucking dammit he fucks up simple things like this. HOW?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:37:32 2015 No.7081187 why are you such an ass do you really need to comment about neatness

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:39:16 2015 No.7081188 >>7081187 Yes, if they're turning in an official assignment I expect it to be neat. Would you hand in your doctoral dissertation full of spelling errors and pen marks from people you asked to peer review?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:45:14 2015 No.7081194 >>7081188 Of course, this is a "doctoral dissertation". Not fucking simple maths.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:46:06 2015 No.7081195 >>7081182 Ah are you black? It would be weird if we knew each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:46:28 2015 No.7081196 >>7081182 Don't bitch about handwriting when you legit wrote a '7' instead of a '2' at the bottom. I can tell from the way you write that you think you are hot shit now that you have some authority.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:48:15 2015 No.7081199 >Proven >I love math :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:50:20 2015 No.7081200 >>7081199 what would make somebody write that on an assignment to be turned in?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:51:06 2015 No.7081202 >>7081200 to an assmad TA? not much

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:52:00 2015 No.7081203 >>7081202 what did you reply to me by mistake? what do you mean

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:52:15 2015 No.7081205 0 points, move on with your life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:55:36 2015 No.7081210 are you mad because he showed the left side is equal to the right and not the other way around or what? i don't get it

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:58:26 2015 No.7081213 File: 1.23 MB, 250x170, 1402028663954.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OP

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 00:58:52 2015 No.7081214 >>7081210 I asked them to prove that the left side is equal to the right, not that the right is equal to the left.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:00:02 2015 No.7081215 >>7081214 So he just has to say Equality Reflexivity and bam. proven

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:00:59 2015 No.7081216 >>7081215 No, that's not how it works. You do what I tell you, not what you want to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:02:20 2015 No.7081219 >>7081216 Are you a high school teacher or something? First year?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:03:38 2015 No.7081221 >>7081216 power mad fucktard - I hate teachers like you

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:03:56 2015 No.7081222 it's pretty clear that OP is the one that did the assignment and is buttblasted at being corrected. fuck off OP you fucking faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:04:13 2015 No.7081223 >>7081214 So what you're saying is, this is an I-was-just-pretending-to-be-retarded troll thread, of the kind retards make.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:04:29 2015 No.7081225 >>7081216 Proving that the right side equals the left side is one way of proving that the left side equals the right side. You will get no support here because everyone who has to do proofs much more difficult will disagree.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:06:32 2015 No.7081228

>>7081219
No, I'm a college TA.

I asked them all to prove that the left is equal to the right.

Instead he breaks down the right and gives me a circular fucking answer.

He came to me after class and asked me why exactly he was wrong, and I told him because he didn't do what I said.

Do you seriously think I'm in the wrong here? He didn't follow instructions to solve the proof.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:07:44 2015 No.7081231 >>7081228 you are literally retarded or this is b8

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:07:52 2015 No.7081233 >>7081228 Read the proof from the bottom up sperglord.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:08:59 2015 No.7081234

>>7081225
>You will get no support here because everyone who has to do proofs much more difficult will disagree.
Why?

>>7081221
I gave instructions, I expect them to be followed. There is a certain way to do math.

>>7081222
No.

>>7081223
Fuck off troll.

newt !!/toudlmPuC5 Sat Feb 21 01:09:53 2015 No.7081235

>>7081182
lol I hope the kid goes above you and you get a bollucking for being too mathematically incompetent that every single algebraic manipulation he did was an equivalence <=> and so he did prove exactly the statement you told him to prove. It wasn't circular at all.

Are you really a math teacher?

Any mathematician knows that if you're trying to prove equality of two things it's usually better to reduce complexity in the more complex side rather than try to introduce complexity to the simpler side.

You're pathetic and incompetent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:10:40 2015 No.7081236 >>7081234 end yourself

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:11:00 2015 No.7081237

>>7081233
Yes I know about equivalent reflixivity, I'm a physics TA idiot.

It still stands I TOLD HIM TO BREAK DOWN THE LEFT SIDE, not the fucking right. And he didn't do what I said, so no EC.

I don't understand why he's so fucking intelligent, because he regularly has discussions after class with the professor and I, but can't follow instructions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:11:18 2015 No.7081238 >>7081228 >proving shit lol engineer heare you're a huge faget betch >tfw skipped every proof problem on homework cause i didn't need the points and they were gay.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:11:24 2015 No.7081239 >>7081234 Because >>7081215. Because equality is a reflexive property. Because it shouldn't matter which side you prove equals which, so long as your steps are correct. Because you're too worried about it being done exactly how you want it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:11:26 2015 No.7081240 >>7081235 >You're pathetic and incompetent. /thread OP, you should be banned from /sci/ for life so you don't spread your retardation to the rest of the idiots on this board

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:12:39 2015 No.7081241

>>7081237
>I don't understand why he's so fucking intelligent, because he regularly has discussions after class with the professor and I, but can't follow instructions.
so you're jelly of this kid and taking it out on his grades. what a fucking faggot. I genuinely hope you die painfully very soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:13:09 2015 No.7081242 >>7081237 >I don't understand why he's so fucking intelligent

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:13:24 2015 No.7081243 >>7081187 You've never graded, I take it. Neatness is super important.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:14:19 2015 No.7081244 >>7081241 this

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:15:08 2015 No.7081246

>>7081238
What?

>>7081239
I know that it is a reflexive property, my point stands I told them to do it a certain way. It will help them if they can introduce complexity and then simplify it.

>>7081240
Fuck off.

>>7081235
He didn't follow instructions. I am not in the wrong here. I stated I wanted them to introduce complexity.

>>7081241
I'm not jelly at all. I like the kid. We have great philosophical, scientific talks. He has very interesting ideas.

It's still frustrating he can't follow simple instructions. Yet gets upset when I punish it for him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:15:22 2015 No.7081248 why didn't he just wolfram alpha it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:17:20 2015 No.7081249 >>7081248 >making yourself dumber And because I told them to show their work.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:17:59 2015 No.7081250

>>7081246
How is this introducing complexity??
Additionally, there is more than one way to write a proof, and this is one. You can't teach that there is only one way to do it, that's just incorrect.

Realistically, when this kid has to do difficult proofs, it will make zero sense to do it in a more complicated way than the easiest way that comes to mind. You should be encouraging them to find the simplest and fastest way rather than
"HURR MY WAY GOOD
DURR YOUR WAY BAD
HURRDURR NO CREDIT"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:18:20 2015 No.7081251 >>7081203 samefag

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:19:08 2015 No.7081253 >>7081250 Sure you can find the easier way, but that isn't going to help them. By having them figure out the harder way, it'll make the problems that much simpler. Why do you not get this? I am HELPING them. And he didn't. Fucking. Listen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:20:08 2015 No.7081255 Also, why the fuck did he write >Proven >I love math :) On the fucking paper he gave to me. Why? This is a professional setting. Why the fuck would you turn something in with a FUCKING SMILEY FACE.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:20:44 2015 No.7081256 >>7081255 :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:20:47 2015 No.7081257 Do you TA at Florida state? Because that place is filled to the brim with retards like you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:21:40 2015 No.7081258 >>7081253 Seriously? What the hell is wrong with you that you think teaching them that doing it the fastest way is wrong actually helps them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:21:52 2015 No.7081260 >>7081257 No, I'm a TA in the midwest

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:22:07 2015 No.7081261 >mfw people like OP actually consider themselves to be intelligent kek. i pity you OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:22:11 2015 No.7081262 >>7081237 >with the professor and I with the professor and me

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:22:52 2015 No.7081263 >>7081258 I'm not telling them its wrong, I'm ecouraging them to at least know the hard way. It strengthens their brains

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:24:09 2015 No.7081264 >>7081246 wow this isn't a troll

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:24:27 2015 No.7081265 >>7081263 If you're not saying it's wrong, why didn't he receive credit? There's knowing the hard way, and there's forcing them to use the hard way. What you're doing isn't helping.

>>	mothergoose !!DUwV6rmVW4k Sat Feb 21 01:25:03 2015 No.7081266 >>7081182 >not drawing infinity elephants and circling coffee/pizza stains on your homework

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:25:08 2015 No.7081267 >>7081255 why'd you post this shit on /sci/? This is a super serious place. Why didn't you just go tell your boss so he could blow you the fuck out?

>>	mothergoose !!DUwV6rmVW4k Sat Feb 21 01:27:06 2015 No.7081268 >>7081266 meant to reply to >>7081200 cant 4chan EVER

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:27:15 2015 No.7081269 >>7081265 Because I'm assuming he doesn't know the hard way and doesn't care to learn. >>7081267 I havent told him yet and I dont have to because I have authoirty here. >>7081266 What the fuck is an infinity elephant?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:27:21 2015 No.7081270 >>7081255 I'd guess you set his gaydar off and he wants some EC. Solution? Stop being such a fag

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:27:51 2015 No.7081271 >tells the kid to be neater >writes a 7 instead of a 2 >buttfrustated because he proved it in a different way than you personally like What a fucking dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:28:27 2015 No.7081272 >>7081269 there is no fucking difference you cunt. a correct answer is a correct answer. fucking kill yourself and do the world a favor

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:29:03 2015 No.7081273 >>7081269 My question still stands. Why are you whining to us?

>>	mothergoose !!DUwV6rmVW4k Sat Feb 21 01:29:51 2015 No.7081275 >>7081269 it doesn't have to be an elephant but just drawing circles inside shapes and filling in the corners. i usually just do them with triangles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:30:11 2015 No.7081276 >>7081273 He was searching for commiseration and accidentally found out he is a retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:30:12 2015 No.7081277 >>7081269 What good would it do him in the world of math to know a more complicated way of doing it? I bet you'd make him use the formal definition to get derivatives, too. What a cunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:30:45 2015 No.7081279 >>7081273 Because this is math related. I'm not whining, I was hoping to get some input from other teachers here on how to get this kid to follow fucking directions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:31:50 2015 No.7081280 >>7081279 I'll say it again: We will all just keep telling you that this is your fault. You are a fucking retard. You are in the wrong.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:32:21 2015 No.7081283

>>7081275
That sounds autistic, if he ever turned in a paper with stupid "infinity" doodles, I would rip it up and tell him to do a new one, rather than just writing a 0 and correcting him.

That's worse than telling me you LE LOVE MATH :) PROVEN XD!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:32:22 2015 No.7081284 >>7081279 you're a fucking retarded TA. get it through your sperg brain that you have no authority. you have no power and you're going to have to accept that your students are smarter than you. seek a mental health professional

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:32:29 2015 No.7081285 >>7081279 stop being a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:32:47 2015 No.7081286 >>7081279 I sure hope this kid gets his phd and steals the job from you later done the road, and you end up flipping burgers at McDonald's or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:33:21 2015 No.7081288 >>7081280 How am I in the wrong when I gave SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS TO DO IT A CERTAIN WAY to help them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:34:20 2015 No.7081289 >>7081288 >DO IT A CERTAIN WAY ^

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:35:28 2015 No.7081291 This fucking thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:36:10 2015 No.7081293 >>7081246 So literally read his shit from the bottom up jerkoff. Why does /sci/ even respond to these master baiters

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:37:54 2015 No.7081295 >>7081293 I think its hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:38:23 2015 No.7081297 >>7081288 >I asked them to prove that the left side is equal to the right, not that the right is equal to the left. Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:39:33 2015 No.7081299 >year of our Lord 2015 >responding to troll thread kek, yall are dumber than you think OP is

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:40:43 2015 No.7081302

>>7081297
All I wanted him to do was be able to figure it out the harder way, so as to help himself. I don't care if he does it the easier way in other things, but if he can figure out the tough shit, it HELPS HIM.

>>7081286
I doubt he'll get a fucking PhD if he can't follow basic instructions.

At the moment he has a C in the class because he can't follow these fucking instructions and doesn't study. I know he doesn't. And it frustrates me because he has extreme potential.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:42:08 2015 No.7081305 >>7081302 You shouldn't need to study for a class like this. Why the fuck are you fucking up his grades with this "can't follow directions" bullshit. Take his right answers for what they are: right answers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:43:10 2015 No.7081307 >>7081305 >you shouldnt have to study for Calc 1 You're an idiot. You should study for EVERY class. Especially a kid like this who had a math disadvantaged background.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:43:57 2015 No.7081309

>>7081302
>At the moment he has a C in the class because sometimes even correct answers aren't really correct answers
if you were a TA in any of my courses and tried pulling some shit like this i'd go straight to you PI, and if that didn't get you to cut your shit i'd beat the shit out of you

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:45:20 2015 No.7081311 >>7081309 It may be correct but I told him to finish it with a certain answer and do it the harder way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:46:29 2015 No.7081313 File: 1.84 MB, 325x244, 1406589083379.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this thread >my sides Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:46:38 2015 No.7081314 >>7081275 Picture want to do this on my next exam

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:46:47 2015 No.7081315

>>7081307
Why should you study for every class? If the concept is simple enough for you to have understood it in class, and you're able to solve the hw problems, why would you put more time into it than you need, looking back over the shit you already understand? Needing to study just means that you didn't pay enough attention the first time you "learned" it. Once you know it, if you know it well enough to apply it, then you know it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:47:36 2015 No.7081316 File: 32 KB, 720x496, rodney.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey you wanna prove a=b the hard way or the easy way?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:52:19 2015 No.7081323 >>7081315 Studying helps the mind, it betters it. There is no such thing as too much studying.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:53:28 2015 No.7081325

>>7081302
>but if he can figure out the tough shit, it HELPS HIM
yep, sure helps him having his gpa lowered cause some faggot TA is misunderstanding his role.
stop being a dick, it's not your place as a TA to force your philosophy on another teacher's students.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:54:17 2015 No.7081326 >>7081323 Please tell me you're trolling. At what point can you stop studying "2+2=4"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:54:44 2015 No.7081328 >>7081325 GPA doesn't fucking matter, I'm helping his brain if he would just fucking listen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:55:25 2015 No.7081329 >>7081328 If GPA doesn't matter then why dock him points?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:55:32 2015 No.7081330 >>7081328 This is why you shouldn't be allowed to teach anyone anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:55:44 2015 No.7081331 >>7081326 >not using triple integration to prove 2+2=4 to yourself every day pleb

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:56:46 2015 No.7081332 >>7081329 Because it'll teach him to start listening. >>7081330 There's a reason I'm a TA

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 01:57:59 2015 No.7081334 >>7081332 I've had some shit teachers. Being allowed to teach doesn't mean you should be allowed to teach.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:01:48 2015 No.7081338

>>7081328
>GPA doesn't fucking matter
how are you a TA?
oh right, you already decided he's not going to get a phd so i guess it doesn't.
what a faggot.
>>7081328
>I'm helping his brain if he would just fucking listen
that messiah complex
YOU'RE A FUCKING TA
god, i've never been baited this hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:02:08 2015 No.7081340 >>7081334 Lol, okay, fuck this world, I guess it's now BAD to teach kids HARD things. And that them not following direct instructions is REWARDED

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:02:42 2015 No.7081342

>>7081332
But the logic doesn't follow:
GPA doesn't matter therefore I will change his GPA and see results. But that would be absurd, so you think GPA does matter. This is what we call "a proof by contradiction", you'll learn about this later on in MATH 137.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:03:11 2015 No.7081343 >>7081340 You're not teaching hard things, you're teaching how to do simple things more difficultly. HUGE fucking difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:04:42 2015 No.7081346 >>7081338 The thought that someone like OP is out there and might someday grade my papers with this bullshit...

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:06:35 2015 No.7081347

>>7081340
>I guess it's now BAD to teach kids HARD things
work smarter, not harder.
you're mad cause the kid outsmarted you and found a simple way to do something you taught was difficult? you're not teaching the kid anything imporant like you think you are, you're teaching him to be a mindless robot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:10:53 2015 No.7081352 You people are fucking faggots for actually siding with the kid on this. He didn't follow instructions, Plain and simple

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:11:56 2015 No.7081353 Wait, doing either side has about the same difficulty as the other just by eyeballing it. What kind of autist gets his panties in a pinch over this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:13:59 2015 No.7081357 >>7081353 He. Didn't. Follow. Instructions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:19:00 2015 No.7081363 >>7081357 ITT: Following instructions for how to solve a problem is more important than being able to solve problems.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:21:25 2015 No.7081364
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Am I the only one in this thread who doesn't see how proceeding from left to right is any more or less complex/difficult than proceeding from right to left in this instance?

And yeah, OP, you're either trolling or actively harming your student's intellectual development. Either way, you're in the wrong here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:23:02 2015 No.7081369 >>7081364 No, that is why everyone has been calling OP a tard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:25:13 2015 No.7081374 >>7081369 Don't forget he's mad that an enthusiastic, bright young mind wrote "I love math :)" on his paper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:26:31 2015 No.7081375 >>7081364 No, we weren't going with that one way is necessarily easier, just that the student solving it in a way that comes most naturally is a positive, not a negative.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 02:30:50 2015 No.7081378 When I was in pre-cal the TA just said to pick the side that is the easiest for you. I figured she did that because all that mattered is that we knew what is equal to what.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 03:25:12 2015 No.7081441

I agree with OP on using a particular side of the proof for a solution. This is more or less used to demonstrate that the student understands the concepts used in a course rather than being capable of working around it. In reality, if the student can solve the proof on way, they should apply their better logic to prove the statement from the other direction and the teacher has asked them to demonstrate it. The manipulation from one side to another and vice versa are different while linked and students should be expected to understand this.
However, OP has no right to post the image of this student's work let alone discuss their progress. I honestly believe the student should take action and report them to the school's academic integrity board if they stumble upon this; OP will be in serious trouble if they do. Additionally, why target this kid for neatness when its clear your only issue should be the maths in question? Do you really need to assault their writing, especially when you can't seem to write a proper 2?
OP, ya done fucked up, explain, in a professional manner, to your student why they should solve the problem from one particular side. Its not because "I said to do it this way" because there is a legitimate mathematical process that is related to the thinking of the converse which the student needs to understand. The student should be able to make the argument of the proof from both sides, not one.

>>	None !ELBOWS6FNQ Sat Feb 21 03:45:09 2015 No.7081475 >>7081255 I love how mad you are. Have an aneurysm. You're the kind of TA that makes university shit.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 03:45:10 2015 No.7081476

>>7081441
You want the proof from the other side? Read the proof from the bottom up. It doesn't make a difference. If you're having problems solving something, trying it from a different angle should always be a valid option. Not to say that either side is particularly difficult, but if you can't get from one step to the next, working the other side until you figure it out is an option. If the student wanted to, he could have worked it this way, then rewritten it backwards, and no one would know the difference. This is why it doesn't matter if you solve it one way or the other: there is no way to tell the difference.
It isn't a matter of understanding the concepts; sometimes, like when you're doing a lot of problems and your brain is fried, you might draw a blank on where to go next or something. If you solve for one side, you're using all of the same identities as solving for the other. This means you are demonstrating your knowledge of the course material equally no matter which side you solve for, since it's the exact same thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 03:55:00 2015 No.7081492 >>7081475 I'm not mad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:00:45 2015 No.7081496 >This little fucking shit I am so mad. >I'm not mad. Choose one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:06:03 2015 No.7081504 you know this is probably just some guy that made a fake homework and fake graded it to troll /sci/ no way some TA is actually like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:13:51 2015 No.7081518 >>7081504 >no way some TA is actually like this oh boy how wrong you are.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:13:56 2015 No.7081519

>>7081255
On my discrete math test I noticed I fucked up a minus early in the problem which made the whole problem and a shit ton of calculation wrong.

There was 5 minutes til the end of the exam so I had no time to correct it. Pointed and arrow to the minus explained why I fucked up and wrote a crying smiling face ;_;

the guy grading me still gave me some points for effort and for saving him the time of going through all the bullshit to spot the wrong minus

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:20:00 2015 No.7081529 >>7081518 true there are bad TAs but this guy csnt b serious

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:24:08 2015 No.7081531 >>7081529 I would agree if I hadn't been arguing with him. You could just feel the butthurt in the speed of the replies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:30:25 2015 No.7081543 >>7081531 could just be a really good troll

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:36:34 2015 No.7081547 File: 62 KB, 500x391, Relevant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7081543 Granted

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:36:46 2015 No.7081548 >>7081182 What a faggy little comment he wrote, I hope you failed him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:37:36 2015 No.7081549 >>7081548 fuck off OP

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:46:33 2015 No.7081554

>>7081234
>There is a certain way to do math.
No. There are a gorillion ways to do math. Bet you're an engineer shitting on other engineers.
He is in the right, he has proven left <=> right.
Equivalency is a reflexive and transitive property, engineer betch

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:46:36 2015 No.7081555 >>7081257 God please tell me they are not at University of Florida too

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 04:58:57 2015 No.7081572
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>>7081549
Not OP.

Also TA thread general? I can't believe this kid fucked up the "free marks" question so badly, I'm considering stapling a deregistration form to his test. I want to give him at least 1 or 2 marks somewhere, but I really can't justify it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:05:26 2015 No.7081585

>>7081279
you should appreciate that you have a student that likes the subject matter and is comfortable enough to manipulate it in this manner, he probably thought you were cool since you had have discussions previously...
on how you should processed, tell him you got the answer and see the logic, but remind him of nature of the situation and you would appreciate his professionalism, because you have a boss to report to and some day he will too...knowing what is expected and being able to deliver is half of what indoctrination/education means.
>by the way you need to chill

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:06:30 2015 No.7081587 >>7081182 I don't understand all the commotions. TA gets handed in some personal notes and scribbles: I don't see any proof. What surprises me is that he looked at it at all.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:13:19 2015 No.7081600

>>7081585

This, you could have ruined the next Hawking...

I was complete shit at math in school just because I hated work, but I started learning Integration at 15 with a D in geometry just because I was fascinated with math, I fell in love.

>>7081332

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:16:37 2015 No.7081607 File: 292 KB, 2420x1638, 120617-coslog-hawking3-10a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7081587 Didn't this man turn in some work to his professor on some brochures as he didn't have enough time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:17:37 2015 No.7081609 >>7081182 So why did you become a teacher? You doesn't seem like an understanding and intelligent person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:20:54 2015 No.7081618 File: 201 KB, 720x405, tmp_31844-south-park-s02e03c12-you-will-respect-my-authoritah-16x91829424906.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the only thing you will teach is resentment

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:23:17 2015 No.7081619 OP is definitely a faggot, but he's right. Why are you proving something is equivalent to itself? That makes zero sense and is completely redundant.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:24:05 2015 No.7081624

*unpopular opinion*

I have to agree with the OP, he clearly wanted the student to learn a specific technique, which -as I'm sure most of you know- is very useful for future courses and the difference is that you won't know what you're working towards then, but if you learned the technique it will be easier.

On top of that OP mentioned that he gave him clear verbal instruction. If you cannot follow instructions you do not deserve the mark just because you think you're being "clever".

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:25:25 2015 No.7081630 >>7081619 He isn't, he's leaving the left side alone and manipulating the right, rather than the other way around.

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:30:27 2015 No.7081636

>>7081619
5=3+2
3+2=5

the act of "dividing" 5 into seperate parts 3 and 2 is equivalent to the act of combining 3 and 2 to 5

"going backwards" is so fucking common in mathematical proofs that I seriously doubt this isn't anything but a troll thread

either that or OP doesn't have a math degree

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:33:04 2015 No.7081638 >>7081636 I finished High School, about to start college, and even I can where you are coming from

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:33:08 2015 No.7081639

>>7081624
for op's specific task you need to know the following relations

1/cos = sec
1/cos^2 = sec^2
sin/cos = tan
sin/cos^2 = sin/cos * 1/cos = tan * sec

weather you are going from left to right or from right to left you are applying literally the same things

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:35:14 2015 No.7081643 >>7081519 That's entirely different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:35:22 2015 No.7081644 >>7081636 >the act of "dividing" 5 into seperate parts 3 and 2 it's called partitioning you pleb fuck. Reported

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:35:58 2015 No.7081646 >>7081643 yeah, I actually made an error that fucked up my calculations while OP's guy literally didn't do a single thing wrong mathematically

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:36:33 2015 No.7081647 >>7081519 Fucking sign errors man. How do I stop doing that shit? Goddamn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:37:51 2015 No.7081650 File: 54 KB, 379x377, babby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7081182 4th year math B.S. student here you are an autist TA

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:38:47 2015 No.7081652 >>7081647 being neat and careful when I started being more organized in my writing I cut down on it significantly also if you have the time don't trust your brain to keep track of it, write all the signs down until you simplify your equations

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:44:06 2015 No.7081663 >>7081652 >if you have the time don't trust your brain to keep track of it, write all the signs down until you simplify your equations. all my yup

Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:45:46 2015 No.7081667
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>>7081646
No I mean pointing out your mistake is relevant and a little lack of professionalism could be seen as an informal way to say "I made a sign error here" when you are stressed for time, some people might even find it humorous.

Writing arrogant and irrelevant statements is completely different from what you did.

>>7081644
>Reported
Pls no, mods already hate us enough for pulling that shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:46:02 2015 No.7081669 >>7081647 It's not really important that you don't do any sign errors, you should just make sure that the number of sign errors is even, then you're fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:47:07 2015 No.7081674 >>7081182 Wow OP. What a fucking asshole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:47:50 2015 No.7081676 >>7081255 Because he knew you'd be mad enough to post it on an anonymous korean cartoon imageboard and get incredibly buttblasted in the process. He trolled you fucking hard m8.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:52:16 2015 No.7081685 >>7081652 >>7081663 Thanks, yeah I'm definitely one of those who writes as little as possible and tries to take shortcuts in my head, but I can see how it can harm me as I get into higher and higher level math courses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 21 05:53:25 2015 No.7081686 >ITT: Angry undergrads project their irrational hatred of TAs onto OP.

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