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Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:01:17 2015 No.7064312 [Reply] [Original]

why aren't you doing a PhD in theoretical computer science /sci/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:03:31 2015 No.7064316 >>7064312 >phd in CS >uneployment upon completion >10k starting at burger king

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:04:41 2015 No.7064318 Is "theoretical computer science" a new buzzword for writing video game reviews and solution guides?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:05:10 2015 No.7064320 >>7064312 I don't really care about computer science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:05:27 2015 No.7064321 >>7064316 I'm doing a PhD in Denmark atm, getting 22 000 DKK per month, which is around 3354 dollars.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:08:00 2015 No.7064325 >>7064312 >tfw you actually have read sipser great book btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:10:27 2015 No.7064331 >>7064312 well, im doing a PhD in computational mathematics which is largely the same thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:11:51 2015 No.7064333 >>7064320 >not caring about the most important science there is

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:13:56 2015 No.7064337 Because I got a CS degree. I didn't learn enough math to do theoretical computer science. Wish I studied math instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:16:33 2015 No.7064340 >>7064333 >fishing this obviously

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:19:29 2015 No.7064343 >doing a PhD in computer science >ever

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:20:31 2015 No.7064346 >>7064340 say thanks to Alan Turing, otherwise you would be doing something else right now ;)

Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:20:50 2015 No.7064347

>>7064337
I studied math undergrad and have enough math to do a PhD in theoretical computer science. But I think I may go into Big Data instead. More money in the field and I could easily find a job outside of academia. For TCS the only type of jobs I could get would be within academia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:37:23 2015 No.7064378 >>7064312 Better off doing it in Mathematics and gaining more respect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:38:39 2015 No.7064382 >>7064378 TCS is mathematics, retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:42:56 2015 No.7064390 >>7064312 >needing a phd to learn how to code

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:46:49 2015 No.7064402 >>7064312 Because I'm not interested in the topic. And I don't like the idea of sitting with stinking, unkempt CS students in one room.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 12:52:22 2015 No.7064413 >>7064402 >le edgy face

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 13:04:55 2015 No.7064429 >>7064390 TCS dont tend to code

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 13:49:22 2015 No.7064470 >>7064316 >Not patenting your work and making mad dosh

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 16:23:07 2015 No.7064768 File: 640 KB, 500x573, 1421501316236.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw there is a wymyn doing facebook research at my cs department

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 16:44:26 2015 No.7064814 >>7064312 >PhD in theoretical computer science This is basically a pure Math degree specializing in logic. There is a HUGE difference between a practical programmer and a theoretical CS major. I have known good CS PhD's that can barely program.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 17:04:22 2015 No.7064845 >>7064814 then how did (s)he pass undergrad/master?

Anonymous Thu Feb 12 17:50:13 2015 No.7064935

>>7064845
ignore him, my supervisor is doing mostly theoretical research but he's a red coder on topcoder.com (ie rated among the best in the world in algorithmic programming competitions).

shit coding like web dev or mobile apps, is just shit coding that any 10 year old can do if put the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 18:28:05 2015 No.7064999 >>7064935 Scot Aaronson isn't a good coder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 22:08:16 2015 No.7065287 I've known some CSc grads. They mastered prolog in like an hour but can't code in python for shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:02:03 2015 No.7065413 File: 44 KB, 300x338, 2797.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7064935 >shit coding like web dev or mobile apps, is just shit coding that any 10 year old can do if put the time mfw it's true

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:03:26 2015 No.7065418 >>7064312 >theoretical computer science What do you do? Work on new types of loops? Make Google faster? Invent new useless languages?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:16:52 2015 No.7065440 >>7065418 Probably something like this if you're cool: http://deepmind.com/

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:21:46 2015 No.7065453 >>7065418 It has the word "theoretical" in it and Sheldon Cooper says that a lot, so it must be smart.

Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:23:31 2015 No.7065455

>>7064312
Because I'm getting a degree in pure mathematics, because I don't lack conviction. Turing was a mathematician, as was Church, and Conway. Why CS didn't just stay inside of discrete math is beyond me.
>inb4 can't feed a family of four
At least I'm studying something that I love, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:24:05 2015 No.7065457 >>7065418 Now I'm also curious; what do you do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:28:02 2015 No.7065466 >>7064312 >uses big words to sound smart >not actually complicated material

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:30:54 2015 No.7065472 >>7065457 I'm a 4th year student in CS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:32:08 2015 No.7065473 File: 45 KB, 500x500, 1417383317225.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw the hardest problem in theoretical cs deals with polynomials Do these people actually have Down's?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:34:24 2015 No.7065476 >>7064321 >40k/yr working on your phd not rich enough

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 12 23:52:29 2015 No.7065502 >>7065473 6/10, i kek'd

Anonymous Fri Feb 13 01:34:30 2015 No.7065665

>>7065418

I'm not the best one to ask on it, but I'd say it's probably about the study the theory of computation. Stuff like the different complexity classes (P, NP, #P, PSPACE, EXPSPACE, etc) and their relations, study differnet forms of computation, shit like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 03:49:23 2015 No.7065812 >>7065418 Invent new languages. Enjoy OOP? Functional?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 04:35:00 2015 No.7065855 >>7064312 >why aren't you doing a PhD in theoretical computer science because doing a joint PhD in theatrical Physics and recreational Mathematics

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 05:35:55 2015 No.7065947 >>7065418 Anyone doing serious programming work uses formal verification techniques, all pure theoretical CS

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 05:37:58 2015 No.7065949 >>7065476 Don't you people get paid by the university for getting your PhD as well?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 05:41:15 2015 No.7065954 >>7065418 "Theoretical" means you don't do anything with it, like theoretical math and theoretical physics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 06:32:12 2015 No.7066019 >>7064312 Because P=NP

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 08:25:14 2015 No.7066099 >>7064312 This is b8.

Anonymous Fri Feb 13 11:33:41 2015 No.7066339

can someone give me a babby tier learning website/book where I learn how to proof that languages are decidable/enumerable? I really suck at this entire topic, especially due to the notation of things like <span class="math">E = \{\langle M \rangle | L(M) = \emptyset \}[/spoiler] and this clusterfuck <span class="math">\langle M \rangle, M, M', M'', \langle M,w \rangle[/spoiler]. Some websites have a different notation like <span class="math">A_{H}, R_{P,w}^3[/spoiler] and shit like that, which I don't understand either. I would really appreciate some help from a PhD in CS. Is there an intuitive way of dealing with this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 11:54:57 2015 No.7066359 Because Theoretical Computer Science is easy math. You learn all that shit in Discrete. >Induction is so hard

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 12:17:34 2015 No.7066398 >>7066359 >Quantum Computing subset of theoretical CS >"easy math" lel'd

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 12:19:17 2015 No.7066403 >>7066398 it is. you just think graph theory and combinatorics is hard. tcs is easy math

Anonymous Fri Feb 13 12:25:53 2015 No.7066407

>>7065418
A quick search would show you that it includes different subjects like: Logic, automata theory, number theory, graph theory, crypotography, type theory, quantum computing, AI, and many others. Of course also computational complexity theory, with the P vs NP problem.

In CS, it is important that any paper also has some value in a practical sense, besides the theoretical sense.

Anonymous Fri Feb 13 12:27:37 2015 No.7066409

>>7066403
Except that combinatorics and graph theory are as hard as you want them to be, bitch, with unsolved problems and problems that have been solved that were rewarded with field medals. Are you one of those retards that thinks if it isn't some arcane subset of algebraic geometry, it isn't hard?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 12:34:53 2015 No.7066417 >>7064768 TU KL?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 13:09:32 2015 No.7066454 >>7066409 >2015 >Not doing Cohomology >Pleb

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 14:08:54 2015 No.7066513 >>7066403 >>7066409 Every field is very hard, as you compete with the top guys in your field. One might divide into difficult and much work - math is usually both. What it the point of this comparison?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 14:12:28 2015 No.7066519 >>7064312 I think you mean >Why aren't you doing a PhD in Theoretical Computer Science, /sci/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 14:38:13 2015 No.7066559 >>7066519 Based autist

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 14:44:39 2015 No.7066574 >>7066019 It is obvious that P != NP It's just that nobody has figured out how to prove it yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 15:03:32 2015 No.7066605 >>7066574 If it's obvious, the proof would be obvious too wouldn't it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 15:04:15 2015 No.7066607 File: 148 KB, 410x391, 1411583018037.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7064316

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 15:05:13 2015 No.7066611 >>7066574 >It is obvious that P != NP No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 15:22:17 2015 No.7066628 >>7064768 >"facebook research" >consists of stalking chads page, imagining him forcing himself upon her

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 15:37:02 2015 No.7066648 hi i don't want to create a thread just for this stupid question, i am going to attend bachelor degree level statistics, does it mostly require integrals, differentials equations or both?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 16:09:38 2015 No.7066728 >>7066605 Sometimes it is obvious that an anon is a faggot even though we can't prove he's a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 13 16:28:24 2015 No.7066771 >>7065418 Making Google faster is a worthy objective, one on which they spend a lot of money.

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