Investor Peter Thiel Planning to Live 120 Years

[Anonymous No.6962980]

>Venture capitalist Peter Thiel is planning to reach 120 in age and is on a special diet to make it happen.

>The 47-year-old investor, who co-founded PayPal and made an early bet on Facebook Inc, said he’s taking human growth hormone every day in a wide-ranging interview with Bloomberg Television’s Emily Chang.

>“It helps maintain muscle mass, so you’re much less likely to get bone injuries, arthritis,” Thiel said in an interview in August. “There’s always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but -- I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade.” Thiel said he also follows a Paleo diet, doesn’t eat sugar, drinks red wine and runs regularly.

>Thiel’s Founders Fund is investing in a number of biotechnology companies to extend human lifespans, including Stem CentRx Inc., which uses stem cell technology for cancer therapy and Modern Meadow Inc., which is aiming to grow leather and meat in labs. Thiel said, however, that “it’s not yet clear whether people will eat it.”

Possible?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-18/investor-peter-thiel-planning-to-live-120-years.html

Also, what's your opinion of HGH?

[Anonymous No.6962989]

why no sugar? could honey be used in place?

[Anonymous No.6962994]

>>6962980

>paleo diet

way to do it wrong, lots of meat in this diet is bad for you

mediterranean diet + lots of veggies + possibly caloric restriction is the way to go

[Anonymous No.6962997]

>>6962989
> why no sugar? could honey be used in place?

no, eliminate all simple starches and sugars.

>>6962994
>way to do it wrong, lots of meat in this diet is bad for you

[citation needed]

afaik, keto diet is a great way to lose excess body fat and put on muscle.

[Anonymous No.6963000]

Growth hormone every day? Good look with the increase in size of vital organs (aka why bodybuilders DIE due to use of GH)

[Anonymous No.6963003]

>>6963000
>Good look with the increase in size of vital organs (aka why bodybuilders DIE due to use of GH)

it's all about the dosage.

[Anonymous No.6963004]

>>6962989
simple sugar in all its forms honey included is bad for you in so many ways

but the way that is of most interest to me is how it affects your brain

let me just summarize by saying that nothing good happens in your head after you ingest large quantities (say a soda) of sugar

[Anonymous No.6963137]

>>6963004
>simple sugar in all its forms honey included is bad for you in so many ways

why

seriously why. this is stupid. why? eat an apple, get fructose. eat honey, get fructose. eat HFCS, get fructose.

[Anonymous No.6963144]

>>6962980
>Possible?

He needs to put more money into research. Following a controversial diet won't get him many extra years.

[Anonymous No.6963163]

no sugar = no energy = he will age faster

[Anonymous No.6963177]

>>6962980
>Thiel said he also follows a Paleo diet

>Le meme diet xD

...seriously, probably the worst diet at all if you're looking for longevity.

>doesn’t eat sugar

this doesn't make sense too

>drinks red wine

>MUH RESVERATROL

protip: you should drink like 100 glasses per day to get a good quantity (and it isn't even sure it helps)

>and runs regularly.

Ok this is good.

Overall 3/10, he's striving for death.

[Anonymous No.6963192]

>>6962980
They say you can judge a person by their picture. If you look closely at his mouth, you can see he's holding back a smug look.

[Anonymous No.6963196]

>>6963163
> no sugar = no energy = he will age faster

it's actually the opposite.

no sugar = no energy = he will age SLOWER

"A dimmer light bulb lasts a lot longer"

[Anonymous No.6963197]

how come it seems like any discussion about sugar it's fucking unsolvable, is it good or bad?
what about honey?

[Anonymous No.6963200]

>>6963196
nope, it takes energy for the cell to do its stuff continuously which includes dna repair. If it has no energy for that then you'll see more errors and hence you'll start having problems.

[Anonymous No.6963202]

>>6963197
sugars are essential to life. It's excessive consumption of sugar that's bad for you. People don't understand what moderation means.

[Anonymous No.6963213]

>>6963202

Fats can be converted to sugar and vice versa

[Anonymous No.6963219]

I hope he will make it

[Anonymous No.6963223]

>>6963202
sugar is just short carbohydrates that are used up quicker since they don't need to be broken up. They are absolutely not "essential".

[Anonymous No.6963228]

>>6962980
>I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade
How long have people been saying this for?

[Anonymous No.6963236]

>>6962980
>>6963228
>There’s always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but -- I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade.

Oh dear. That's a bit of a long shot isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6963245]

You people are idiots. He's still eating carbs, just not eating shit with raw sugar like soda or candy or other just disgusting shit

[Anonymous No.6963248]

>>6963236
>>6963228
stop oppressing him

[Anonymous No.6963250]

>>6963200
>nope, it takes energy for the cell to do its stuff continuously which includes dna repair. If it has no energy for that then you'll see more errors and hence you'll start having problems.

you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. calorie restriction slows aging. it's proven.

[Anonymous No.6963257]

Is that Adrian Veidt?

[Anonymous No.6963259]

>>6963223

Do you know what ATP is? Glucose is entirely necessary for it.

[Anonymous No.6963261]

>>6962980
So what's the consensus? Should we follow suit?

[Anonymous No.6963264]

>>6963259
Please explain, I am a biology pleb.

[Anonymous No.6963271]

>>6963259
Yes? Sugar isn't necessary for maintaining glucose levels, how do you even think anyone could stay alive without sugar if it was? It's the primary fuel of the brain.

[Anonymous No.6963279]

>>6962980
The guy is clearly an idiot, blinded by his own mortality into buying into scams.

[Anonymous No.6963300]

>>6963279
some1 should take a gun into his house and just show him that his own actions have minimal impact on his lifespan

[Anonymous No.6963335]

Paleo diet? lmfao. He's going to drop dead at 60.

[Anonymous No.6963346]

>>6963335
You don't believe eating like our hunter gatherer ancestors?

Surely we're better adapted to eat like they did, since evolution hasn't had time to fully tune us to the food we have now

[Anonymous No.6963349]

>>6963264

Glucose contains too much energy for cellular functions, so its converted into about 38 units of adenosine triphosphate. This is how most of the energy in the body is expressed

[Anonymous No.6963350]

>>6963257
Adrian Veidt was actually vegetarian.

And probably smarter too.

[Anonymous No.6963352]

>>6963279
funniest thing is that his Myers-Brigg is INTJ.
I guess INTJ aren't that smart.

[Anonymous No.6963355]

>>6962980
This is the same guy telling kids to drop out of college.

[Anonymous No.6963358]

>>6963346
>since evolution hasn't had time to fully tune us to the food we have now

What makes you say that? European populations have very high concentrations of maltase in their saliva, an enzyme that starts to break down starches while chewing. Compare that to sub-saharan africans and their concentration is way lower. This doesn't change even with a change in diet so it's likely genetic.

We're pretty well adapted to eating starchy carbs.

[Anonymous No.6963362]

>>6963346

Our hunter gatherer ancestors died at 30 if they were extremely lucky.

Meat isn't good for you. You're not "better adapted" at anything

[Anonymous No.6963365]

>>6963362

That's the average lifespan, which was brought down by stupidly high infant mortality rates. If you lived to be an adult, chances were really good that you'd go on to live until 50 or more.

Learn how statistics work, faggot.

[Anonymous No.6963368]

>>6963365

This is a common misconception, lrn2science

[Anonymous No.6963371]

>>6963362
they died because they didn't have the medicine we have today. Most died of the flu or other simple things which today can be cured by taking aspirin and cold syrup.

[Anonymous No.6963373]

Wouldn't immortality be a good thing with how the 1st world has a crashing birth rate?

You would have more time to utilize your education which you spent decades to completely pay off.

Great engineering projects such as terraforming mars becomes a reasonable task,with greatly extended
life spans

[Anonymous No.6963374]

>>6963362
So you admit paleo is good for native sub-saharans?

[Anonymous No.6963377]

>>6962980
he kinda looks like this guy

[Anonymous No.6963388]

>>6963373
The biggest problem is that governments will never invest in this until we already have some tangible results, and at the same time very few billionaires are intelligent and scared of death enough to invest in the research themselves.

We need more people like this guy.

[Anonymous No.6963396]

>>6963388
How do we convince the boomers?

[Anonymous No.6963404]

>>6963396
You don't need to convince many people, actually.

Just at these faggots. Look at them. Every single one of them could basically solve the problem.

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/

The truth is that they probably don't know it. They think it's impossible, just like us...but they could make it possible, differently from us.

[Anonymous No.6963684]

Seems foolish, I've read making it past 100 naturally was nearly entirely due to genetics, only like 5% of people have the correct genes to make it past 100 naturally

But really fasting has been proven to extend life in many animals including monkeys they experimented on, can extend life by up to 30%, paleo won't do shit

By the time the guy is 120 anyways there will already be many things that can extend life available so I don't see the point in going to extreme measures in the present

[Anonymous No.6963724]

>>6962980
>There’s always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but -- I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade
For someone going through so much effort to increase his longevity, you'd think he'd know that cancer isn't one disease but a class of diseases, all with different causes. We'll probably have robot bodies before we have a cure for all cancers.

[Anonymous No.6963727]

>>6963349

Where the fuck do you get 38? One molecule of glucose yields a net of 2 ATP.

[Anonymous No.6963748]

>>6963727
>he doesn't know about the citric acid cycle

[Anonymous No.6963762]

>>6963727
That's only for anaerobic respiration, not aerobic

[Anonymous No.6963979]

>>6963684
Paleo could increase lifespan by prolonging faste periods.

[Anonymous No.6964009]

>>6963727

In aerobic respiration, there is a net of 36 ATP produced, with 38 total, since 2 are used up in the process.

[Anonymous No.6964711]

>>6963727

What was your grade in bio?

[Anonymous No.6964714]

Wish I had the money for some steroids. One month could equal superior muscle growth/energy for at least ten years.

[Anonymous No.6964822]

I hope he gets aids that would be hilarious.

[Anonymous No.6964869]

>>6963352

>Pseudoscience garbage

Well no shit sherlock

[Anonymous No.6964873]

>>6962980
>want to slow his aging
>ingest a substance that accelerate mitosis, and so shorten the telomeres that much faster

[Anonymous No.6964923]

wtf, why do people think honey is any different from sugar?

[Anonymous No.6964940]

>>6964923

just a guess, but maybe because honey is natural and sugar is factory made

[Anonymous No.6964999]

>>6963346
I don't understand nutrition, biology or evolution, the post.

[Anonymous No.6965004]

>>6964940
Hurr durr its natural so its good for you and chemicals are bad lol !!!1!1!!!

Please get out of this board, it's a science board, not a pseudoscience one.

[Anonymous No.6965007]

>>6962980
>I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade.
Sure we will...

[Anonymous No.6965060]

>>6965004

You're clearly not a native english speaker.

[Anonymous No.6965071]

>>6962997
>what is ketoacidose

[Anonymous No.6965074]

>not just lifting heavy and doing cardio 3-5 times a week
>eating healthy (low carb diet)
>and cruising on test once you're 40-50

that's how I'm gonna do it

[Anonymous No.6965080]

>>6963727
topkek

>>6963349
it's 26 or 28 (depending on whether the cycle starts with NADH or FADH2

38 was calculated wrong and unfortunately it's still used in some text books.

[Anonymous No.6965087]

>>6963259
>Glucose is entirely necessary for it
fatty acids can also be used to make acetyl coa, not just glucose

[Anonymous No.6965090]

>>6965060
I don't think that the fact he's not a native english speaker devaluetes what he's saying.

[Anonymous No.6965092]

>>6963213
>Fats can be converted to sugar
ayy lmao

/sci/ can't into hs bio

[Anonymous No.6965101]

>>6965090

He completely misunderstood what he was responding to, so yes, I'd say that depreciates it.

[Anonymous No.6965106]

>>6965092
Never go full retard.

http://themedicalbiochemistrypage.org/gluconeogenesis.php#substrates

[Anonymous No.6965585]

>>6965071
Why are you using edge cases to argue something? Moderation is the key.

[Anonymous No.6965589]

>>6962980
>There’s always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but -- I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade.
>Curing cancer
top kek

[Anonymous No.6965608]

>>6965007
>that gif

[Anonymous No.6965693]

>>6965092

The oxidation of fatty acids produces acetyl-CoA, which is used in the citric acid cycle. The citric acid cycle can be used to regenerate two amounts of pyruvate, which can be converted to back to glucose via gluconeogenesis.

[Anonymous No.6965708]

>>6965693
>pyruvate, which can be converted to back to glucose via gluconeogenesis

didn't hear anything about this during the lectures and neither in the book. thanks, learned something new.

[Anonymous No.6965799]

>>6962980
> >“It helps maintain muscle mass, so you’re much less likely to get bone injuries, arthritis,” Thiel said in an interview in August. “There’s always a worry that it increases your cancer risk but -- I’m hopeful that we’ll get cancer cured in the next decade.”

There's the mistake. Instead of science, he relies on HOPE, which means it's another form of religion.

> >Thiel said he also follows a Paleo diet, doesn’t eat sugar, drinks red wine and runs regularly.

That's good practice. He'll probably live into his 90s. But only about 1 in a million people live to over age 110. Humans are programmed to decay and die. It can't be avoided just by using techniques of behavior, diet and environment.

[Anonymous No.6965959]

>>6962980
He's probably going to get cancer. Dude is not taking the environment into account.

The air your breathing isn't purified and it gets worse in the big cities where you spend most your time. Is the water you shower in filtered by reverse osmosis? Probably not.

Are you deficient in any of the essential vitamins and minerals? Statistically you probably are.

Do you use deodorant? Of course you do, and I bet it's got lovely ingredients like aluminum in it. And this is all just the obvious stuff, there's a bunch of other factors and interactions that could put you on the fast lane to cancer.

Environmental factors can create chain reactions that favor cancer and taking GH daily could be the catalyst that pushes you over the edge to developing cancer.

[Anonymous No.6965963]

>>6963271

Levels in the brain correlate to levels in the blood.

I'm type 1 diabetic and can vouch that sugars from fruit and whole foods elicit much lower glycemic effects. Eliminating honey is dumb. It's perfectly fine to eat in normal quantities. RAW honey though, not Walmart brand 99 cent honey.

[Anonymous No.6965965]

>>6963371

Accept those things weren't around until 100 years ago. We were hunter gatherer's in the 19th century?

[Anonymous No.6967157]

>>6965963
>RAW honey though
and where do u buy that?

[Anonymous No.6967161]

>>6967157

From beekeepers, or pay out the ass for it at a health food store.