/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6959814]

is it true that africans were useless or did they built and have some technology/civilization?

was the climate responsible for their lack of doing something?

[Anonymous No.6959848]

>>6959814
hi /pol/

[Anonymous No.6959853]

Their greatest accomplishment was a "mosque" made out of mud. No I'm not kidding.

[Anonymous No.6959859]

>>6959814
I've heard that Egypt was in Africa.

[Leo No.6959860]

>>6959814
They sure did something.

Yes.

[Anonymous No.6959873]

>>6959859
Yeah, you have to be specific that you're talking about sub-Saharan Africa, which was pretty cut off from the mainstream of humanity, despite its geographical nearness.

There were relatively easy travel routes between Europe, Asia, and the Middle East and Mediterranean, enough to force everyone to keep up with their neighbors or be invaded and conquered, in an unbroken chain linking most of humanity. With the desert as an obstacle, the small expeditions south could be fought off just by force of numbers.

Everyone who was cut off from this ended up staying relatively primitive. It's not that they weren't advancing, they just weren't advancing as quickly, because there wasn't as large and diverse a population.

[Anonymous No.6960065]

>>6959873
>because there wasn't as large and diverse a population.
you mean because they were niggers

[Anonymous No.6960067]

they were responsible for u

;)

[Anonymous No.6960074]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:African_civilizations

you're welcome

[Anonymous No.6960082]

There have been people in Europe for 80,000 years, but had fuck all for civilization or technology until 3000 years ago. Are white people just retarded?

[Anonymous No.6960093]

>>6960082
Well, I suppose we'd have to ask what that makes the rest of the world if they managed to essentially get dominated by those white retards in such short order.

[Anonymous No.6960099]

>>6959814
Who gives a crap? We're her now, we just need to bring Africa up to speed.

[Anonymous No.6960103]

>>6960082
you know that 40,000 years ago = ice age and most of europe was covered in hundreds of km of ice. No human lived there. That's why the birthplace of humanity was around the middle east, specifically turkey. And that was about 6000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.6960107]

>>6960093
>80,000 years
>"short order"

ok

[Anonymous No.6960119]

>>6960107
Ignoring>>6960103

Is it nice living in retard land?

[Anonymous No.6960126]

>>6960119
It's lovely this time of year.

[Anonymous No.6960172]

>>6960099
This.
Who gives a shit about the past? I bet you anything once the environment is right, and the social setting is not nigger tier in africa, plenty of countries could flourish into advanced civilizations.
If it's up to us to fix up the continent, thats okay. Most people on sci should understand the feeling of doing all the work on a group project, how it feels nicer than actually trying to get others to work.
I mean if you don't you are a retard and I hope you die, every smart person has known that feeling once.

[Anonymous No.6960192]

>>6959853
The Aksum Empire seems to never appear in any of these threads. Oh well, I pretty much agree with these niggers >>6960099
>>6960103 tho.

[Anonymous No.6960204]

>was the climate responsible for their lack of doing something?

Partial geological isolation plays a big part, if you don't believe me look up different populations of islanders and artic people throughout the world. That geological isolation can narrow the flow of information and resources you receive thus limiting potential growth.

Africans had it slightly better in that they weren't completely cutoff from the everyone but notice how it is the outer rims of africa in particular the north and eastern sides closer to other land masses that did better than west and south that had nothing but miles and miles of ocean next to them.

Hell you can't even really say it's the people themselves because those outside these locations in the case of the ancient nubians and african americans have shown to produce more intellectual capital in terms of science, engineering and math on average than those in west and south Africa.

[Anonymous No.6960236]

>>6960192
Should ethiopians be considered black though? They were historically considered to be the southernmost members of the caucasoid race.

[Anonymous No.6960249]

Tanzania was a trading centre already in Roman times. Visiting Roman and Chinese merchants spoke highly of the cities there. But we don't have much of that left. Presumably they built in wood rather than stone, and that shit doesn't last in a tropical climate.

[Anonymous No.6960251]

>>6960236

That's the trouble with threads like this, isn't it. People switch between "African" and "black" and it's never clear what exactly is being argued.

[Anonymous No.6960259]

>>6959814
Southern Europeans are Africans.

[Anonymous No.6960286]

I heard a theory that because Africa never had winter, most tribes had no good way to preserve much food. So over tens of thousands of years, this bred a genetic disposition to preferring instant gratification over being prepared. Europeans had cold winters and lots of ice available, and so they could bury meat and some veggies to preserve it over the winter. All Africans had was smoking and salting, neither of which are great for anything but meat.

[Anonymous No.6960288]

>>6960099
>we just need to bring Africa up to speed

why? where's the benefit in wasting our resources on that backwards shithole?

[Anonymous No.6960289]

>>6960236
Ethiopians are definitely black. They're really just Semitic Africans.

[Anonymous No.6960292]

>>6959848
Seems like an /int/ern to me. /pol/ never asks, the claim.

[Anonymous No.6960295]

>>6960067
for me?

[Anonymous No.6960297]

>>6960292
*They claim.

[Anonymous No.6960299]

>>6960286
While I like this theory, it still doesn't explain how people from South America and the middle east had more advance technology.

[Anonymous No.6960300]

>>6960289
>Ethiopians are definitely black. They're really just Semitic Africans.
Isn't that an oxymoron? You can't be "definitely black" and be semitic at the same time.

[Anonymous No.6960301]

>>6960299
Or why north americans, who lived in a climate similar to europe's never left the stone age.

[Anonymous No.6960305]

>>6960301
not true. some north americans had metal working before Columbus.

Though the award for most retarded native goes to the Abo. Fuckers actually regressed to more primitive then they were when they arrived in Australia. Some tribes couldn't make fire, wear clothes, or make stone tools. No agriculture to speak of.

[Anonymous No.6960306]

>>6960288
From economic point of view, nothing. From human development point of view a lot.

There has to be a lot of bright minds there just don't have the chance, and you can't select where you are born. And think about what humanity can achieve if they could include like 1 billion people more in the development.

[Anonymous No.6960310]

>>6960306
The colonial empires were all money losers for the European powers. Though the option was to go with out the goods and commodities that they provided. WW1 and WW2 cost the English, French, Portugese, and Dutch dearly and caused them to lose it all.

[Anonymous No.6960449]

If you've got nothing but the country you were by chance born in to feel good about yourself you're one sad motherfucker

[Anonymous No.6960998]

>>6960301
Well obviously there's more to it than just the lack of winter in Africa. Like, North America didn't have any good wild animals to domesticate to be pack animals.

[Anonymous No.6961006]

>>6960998
What about the bison?

[Anonymous No.6961012]

>>6961006
Maybe they aren't easily domesticated, or they require too much food for the amount of work they'll do? I don't know, I'm not a farmer.