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What would happen if infinity was proved to be stable?

How would it affect the mathematical perception of everyday objects?

>> No.6943804
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>>6943691

>> No.6943809

>>6943691
I'm sorry, I do not understand the question.

Could you explain in more detail what you mean? Such a question is not actually meaningful based on any mathematics I understand; it is likely you have fundamentally misunderstood something basic about infinity as it is mathematically understood or how mathematics relates to the physical world.

>> No.6943825

>>6943809
I'm saying that infinity is unstable because it's unpredictable. But if it was predictable and stable then how would that affect our mathematical perception?

Incidentally, I'm a girl. Not sure if it's relevant.

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>>6943825
>>6943691

>I'm saying that infinity is unstable because it's unpredictable

You don't know what infinity is
You don't know what stability is

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>>6943691
>What would happen if numbers were proved happy

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>>6943691
How old are you?

>> No.6943852

>>6943691
"Infinities" have nothing to do with "stabilities".

>> No.6943856

>>6943825
>I'm saying that infinity is unstable because it's unpredictable. But if it was predictable and stable then how would that affect our mathematical perception?

That doesn't even ... what? I don't...

>Incidentally, I'm a girl. Not sure if it's relevant.

OH, OK. Gotcha.

OP, if infinity was proved stable, it would be disastrous. Dividing by zero would then be able to produce a definite number - this hypothetical number would be completely outside of our existing numeral system, causing total breakdown of the natural numbers and allowing us to convert 1 into 2 directly, et cetera.

This would have revolutionary implications for everyday life - imagine being able to condense 1,000 tons of nuclear waste into just 1, or converting U-238 directly into U-235, or being able to launch spacecraft just by proving that being 100 inches off the ground is equivalent to being 100 miles up! Not to mention the benefits of being able to take the Axiom of Choice mechanically, allowing Banach-Tarski razors to perfectly duplicate objects.

>> No.6943861

Stop smoking the weed every day OP.

>> No.6943895

>>6943856
fucking kek'd

>> No.6943899

>>6943856
>we cant turn 1 into 2

I saw a proof for turning 1 into 2 like a year ago and laughed my ass off

But seriously it can be done

Also, infinity can be considered stable without the structural reform of later developments in the universes being, as to say we could be existing constantly at the very moment of the big bang and shrinking further into the plasma that was correlated with the right mixture, there could be endless universes out there as the big bangs sea popped it's cherry multiple times in multiple speeds and seeds all resulting in various structures that brought various life forms to exist, so in short, you're assuming we are the only lifeforms in the non-time scale, as time is infinite, and diverse, and can be considered nothing but the outside of the current frame you're looking at- many times over!

>> No.6943902

>>6943899
>time is infinite, and diverse, and can be considered nothing but the outside of the current frame you're looking a
Man I love fractals, reality just lays it all out perfectly

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>>6943899
>>6943856
>incoherent gibberish

>> No.6943919

>>6943908
<span class="math">Spoilers %An irrelevant I'm A Grill BTW is the universal 4chan sign that one is not being sincere. This is a joke thread. Just roll with it and make shit up.%[/spoiler]

>> No.6943999

A well-known child prodigy once proved that infinity is most likely stable at a value of -1/12

>> No.6944167

>>6943841
kek'd

>> No.6944207

>>6943825
see >>6943832

The only way in which you being a girl in revelant is in letting me tell you that you're absolutely worthless in any way of interest to us, except showing your naked body. However, /sci/ is a SFW board. So, email your tits to anyone who asks AND fuck off.

>> No.6944559

>>6944207
Clearly this poster's post-postironic misogyny is evidence that over long periods of time such as the dialated periods which occur inside 4chan due to the differential chaos generated by boards posting at different speeds, we find experimentally that infinity is indeed stable and tends to house names which while superficially similar to traditional hateful ideation are now dripping with subtext indicating a painful yet playful self-awareness and intentional disregard for the same.

>> No.6944820

>>6943832
OP here, dont know why the good lady tried to impersonate me, but please, elaborate, what is your clean clear cut deffinition of infinity and 'stable'
>assuming you understand time would have to go, effectively, backwards to account for what I'm postulating as a stable infinity

>> No.6944833

>>6943841
Unfortunately....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_number

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>>6944820
> infinite
not finite
> finite
A set is <span class="math"> B [/spoiler] finite if
<span class="math">\exists f: B\to A : A\in \mathbb{N} \land \mathrm{sup} A \in \mathbb{N} [/spoiler]
> stable
far too drunk to define.

>> No.6944855

I want what you're huffing, OP. Send plox.

>> No.6944863

>>6944820
>speaking of
ayy lmao

>> No.6944866

>>6944849
Stability talks about certain points with 0 derivative, and whether points move to meet them. Infinities can be either stable or non stable depending on the particular infinity.

>> No.6944885

>>6943825
/pol/ pls go

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>>6944866
>Stability talks about certain points with 0 derivative, and whether points move to meet them
Wait so if you had two points expanding infinitely you could make a relative example of how a third point is bending it but it would never quantify because the point would total -0.000...001?

>> No.6945685

>>6944866
What does it mean when a kind of infinity can be stable or unstable, do these have real life applications?

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