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[Psychology No.6909867]

Do you consider psychology a science? I think it is. An important one, too.
Just want to know your opinion and why.

[Anonymous No.6911901]

>>6909867
>Just want to know your opinion
Why?

[Anonymous No.6911905]

It's defined as a social science, so yes.

[Anonymous No.6911909]

>>6909867
No

[Anonymous No.6911970]

this is bait please leave

[Anonymous No.6912000]

It's defined as a social science, so no.

[Anonymous No.6912038]

>>6909867
I think it's a science. I'm a neuroscience major and although the psych classes I've taken were easier, they weren't pointless. The way I see it is psychiatric disease is so complicated that if we can't understand it all biologically, we might as well gather behavioral data on it. If I can't understand a gasoline powered engine yet, is it not worthwhile to figure out that putting gasoline in it keeps it from shutting Down?

[Anonymous No.6912041]

>>6911909
>he actually saved it in a jpg because he got too lazy to type it

kek

[Anonymous No.6912122]

They only psychology I would trust would be neuropsychology. Modern psychology is fair game for any quack. People can literally justify and make sense of insanity

[Anonymous No.6912211]

it's the best we've got on the subject. neuroscience isn't even close to explaining simple behaviors yet, so black-box theories are all we've got. push a button and something happens - never really know how or why. not yet, at least.

its criticisms do a very good job of outlining its very same challenges.

the clinical field is indeed full of quackery, see Baumeister et al., 2010. and its bachelor's programs are a joke. its students mostly destined to become kindergarten teachers or glorified paper-pushers in HR. it is definitely limited by ethical and legal concerns. people who are convincing enough have actually managed to get admitted to mental hospice, see Rosenbaum. and more often than not it is manipulated as a political or ideological tool. but at its best it is the only thing that attempts to explain the mind and behavior.

freud is dead. the dreamers all gone. curiosity is here still

[Anonymous No.6912458]

>>6909867
You need real intelligence to understand the need, background and field of psychology. The fact that psychology isn't considered a science or useful at least at 4chan is a prove of that.Or it could just be wanna be scientists, like a lot of /sci/ are to narrow minded.

At the other hand, psychology proves us that things that can not be defeated become hated by those who see no other way to protect them self from the influence of which they become afraid of.
Tohe most people the brain is a superstructure that they can not understand but somehow they know it workings resembles what they now of a computer.
You got your cooling system, which is the blood, the lungs, the skin the heart and of course the veins. You got the loading bay, which are the senses. You got the CPU which are the neurons. And you got the HD, which are the axons.
And although you might not get it, empirical data has shown in great lines it works like that.

We can predict feelings, moods and even personality changes, commercial success products, relationship games and military training all prove that.

So go ahead, get you calculator, install you telescope and dig your whole, psychology is for real, smart people, to understand the essence of your soul.

You want prove, so you can use words to make yourself look smart, retard. Let the supreme intelligent people rule over you, for you are just average, with a narrow view of the most important thing in human history, your own control center.

[Anonymous No.6912464]

Cognitive psychology and neuropsychology are both empirical and have close connections to biology and shit. Then there's shit like social psychology which I get the impression only exist to sell headlines to tabloids and women's magazines.

[Anonymous No.6912505]

>>6909867

The problem with the field of psychology in the world of science, is that it is often hobbled by human feeling. Feeling/emotion as far as I know, is not a quantifiable or measurable entity. Feeling is extremely subjective and people can change their minds about how they 'felt' at any point. Emotions and feelings, which have a huge impact on behavior, are highly subjective, and the reason it is often dismissed.

I agree with >>6912122, though. With neurology side, you're dealing with the biology and chemistry behind neurons in the brain and body. For the most part you're dealing with objective measurable events, rather then relying on interpreting subjective emotions.

[Anonymous No.6912508]

Cognitive science (a branch of psychology) gave us the scientific approach to understanding and quantifying intelligence (IQ). Tell me how this isn't rigorous science.

[Anonymous No.6912526]

>>6912508
>IQ
That counting is trivial, so say Mr Stephen Hawking.
Intelligence, we need to change what it means, we need new terms for it.
Considering a mathematician and a musical prodigee.
One cant do what the other can, at least not as good, who is smarter? The Mathematician can be more useful, but maybe he is good at math and not so much as a social person, he cant talk, he cant impose his ideas, he cant have his way into society, while the musician has friends, connections, ecc, and will go on.

A Biologist and a Physician, what if the latter got an IQ of 180 but
The Physician found a new way to draw the atom structure
The Biologist found how to recreate photosyntesis in a way that it can be used to build new kinds of solar panels?

Naa this is too far fetched of an example, but my point is that you cant just quantify intelligence like that.

[Anonymous No.6912529]

>>6912526
Why would a physician care about atoms? He has patients to cure.

[Anonymous No.6912533]

>>6912526
>Let's compare Stephen Hawking to a crack whore.
>The latter is surely more talented at shaking her ass.
>Therefore we cannot say that one is more intelligent than the other.
>cognitive science disproved, QED

Seriously? Don't you get tired of pretending to be retarded? Think of a new bait, moron.

[Anonymous No.6912550]

>>6909867
No it isn't. Not that it can be, but now it isn't.

Want explication ? Go to a psychologie course and say to the students that you want to close 100 of babis in a box to see how they build their relationships.

[Anonymous No.6912552]

>>6912526
music is math

[Anonymous No.6912557]

>>6912550
You're not even sufficiently intelligent to speak English. Opinion discarded.

[Anonymous No.6912563]

>>6912557
haha, if you cant speak english you're a retard? :D
if YOU cant speak swahili or chinese you're a retard too?

[Anonymous No.6912567]

>>6912563
You don't speak the language of this board and you know nothing about the topic of this thread. Why are you here?

[Anonymous No.6912572]

>>6912567
http://s.4cdn.org/image/title/224.png

[Anonymous No.6912574]

>>6912567
If I dont speak the language of this board how did you understand my last post? Just askin'

[Anonymous No.6912578]

>>6912567
oh, and what do you know about the topic of this thread? psychology is just mostly some stuff Freud made up from his childhood

[Anonymous No.6912580]

>>6912578
>psychology is just mostly some stuff Freud made up from his childhood

[Anonymous No.6912711]

>>6911909
I don't know where this is from, but what's amusing is that understanding analogical reasoning requires psychological science. Relational learning is the foundation of human cognition. Most ignorant blowhards on this board bashing psych resort to psychological terms and concepts. Interesting, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.6912724]

>>6912574
Your English is so horrible that your whole post doesn't even make any sense. Telling people that you want to see how babies can build relationships in some sort of room isn't even a proper explication.
Your argument fails to prove or show us anything, therefore it's totally irrelevant to this thread.

[Anonymous No.6912741]

You get to understand why some persons are so fucking retarded