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>scientists think they know better than scientists 100 years ago
>scientists 100 years ago think they know better than scientists 500 years ago
>scientists 500 years ago think they know better than scientists 1000 years ago

Socrates lived 2500 years ago and seems to be the only one to ever understand that all we know is that we know nothing. Fuck off with your arrogant science. Your methods and findings and facts will be outdated and replaced in a few decades.

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>> No.6901027

>>6900997
We do know better than people 100 years ago. We certainly don't know everything about the world, and there are certainly many things we're wrong about, but our understanding is always increasing. Technological advancement is a manifestation of this fact (to be clear I'm not claiming that technology is awesome, I'm just claiming that it demonstrates that we understand at least certain aspects of the world). The establishment of the scientific method by philosophers like Descartes, Leibniz, and Newton was one of the single greatest achievements of the human race, and stands as one of the most beautiful and inspiring moments in history. These brilliant men realized that our understanding of the world can be improved by relying on reason and evidence. They showed that the beauty of nature is ultimately something that, if we look close enough, we can uncover.

You claim to be a student of Socrates, but your probably the type of person that thinks that fucking Deepak Chopra is philosophy. Learn to use reason.

>> No.6901515

>Because we can't know anything perfectly right now we shouldn't even try.

>> No.6901523

>>6900997
The young specialist in English Lit, having quoted me, went on to lecture me severely on the fact that in every century people have thought they understood the universe at last, and in every century they were proved to be wrong. It follows that the one thing we can say about our modern "knowledge" is that it is wrong. The young man then quoted with approval what Socrates had said on learning that the Delphic oracle had proclaimed him the wisest man in Greece. "If I am the wisest man," said Socrates, "it is because I alone know that I know nothing." the implication was that I was very foolish because I was under the impression I knew a great deal.

My answer to him was, "John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

-- Isaac Asimov, The Relativity of Wrong
http://chem.tufts.edu/answersinscience/relativityofwrong.htm

>> No.6901528

look out guys- gravity is going to be outdated and replaced in a few decades
>you're lucky I'm on mobile, which currently has no way of reporting threads
>not tech related and obviously (poorly) written as an attempt at trolling
>shitposting in its purest form
>not like the Mods would do anything if I did report it anyway, they've abandoned us and /g/ is turning to shit

>> No.6901539

>>6901528
...wait a minute... shit. Looks like I've followed a cross-board reference on /g/ and accidentally not returned... sorry folks, I've duckrolled myself.
>he's still shitposting anyway

>> No.6901545

>>6901523
holy fuck the #rekt is very real

>> No.6901567

>the science that we have today will be improved in the future
>this means everything that we know today is wrong

Fucking retard.

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>>6900997
>all we know is that we know nothing

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>> No.6901994

>>6901027
>scientific method by philosophers like Descartes, Leibniz, and Newton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_scientific_method

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>>6900997
>science is self correcting and changes to accommodate our best experiments and observations

>implying this is a bad thing

>implying scientists don't embrace that shit

0/100

>> No.6902015

Don't feed the troll ...

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>>6900997
>implying all scientists don't know our current knowledge is tentative

>implying that isn't a per-requisite for science

You sound like a fucking retard. Have you never taken a grad school science class?

>> No.6902017

>>6902013
Nah dude, the best model of reality is not the one that gets renewed after each new observation about reality. The best model of reality is one that is unfalifiable nor provable by any observation and its best argument is the call to relativism.