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Why do magnets not blow themselves apart from repeling themselves? Do magnets self-repel at all? Why?

>> No.6900823

>>6900810
Why are you so retarded?

>> No.6900908

Duh, magnets are made from opposite poles and those attract each other, not repel.

>> No.6901686

science does not know how magnets work

>> No.6901716

>OP asks a silly but possibly honest question
>everyone shits all over him
>>6900810
The intermolecular forces between the metal atoms holding it together are stronger than the magnetic forces repealing each other

>> No.6901717
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>>6901686

WTF? Polarity has been traced down to what level now, it's something above molecular right, or is it molecular?

>> No.6901753

>>6900810
you idiot, north and south ATTRACT

why would it repel itself?

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>>6901753

Well he does have a point in that the various portions of each end of the magnet are the same polarity are they not?

>> No.6901758

>>6900810
>repeling themselves
>>6901716
>repealing each other
opposing poles are not repe(a)ling

>> No.6901763

>>6901717
I liked the theory of applying something along the lines of faraday's law to electron spin and electron orbit using the bohr model. No idea how it extends to quantum physics.

>> No.6901772

>>6901758
Fuck you I'm on mobile

>> No.6901774
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6901774

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+magnets+work

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>>6900810
The force vectors(directions) would look like pic related.

>> No.6901807

>>6901772
get off the phone and get a real computer, pleb

>> No.6901814

>>6901716
This

>> No.6901819
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what about those then

>> No.6901821

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnmeraL1Zg

>> No.6901847

>>6900810
>Why do magnets not blow themselves apart from repeling themselves? Do magnets self-repel at all? Why?
see that red paint on N side of the magnet? It contains lead and a thin coat of lead stops magnetic flux from going back to S pole of the magnet. That's why if you scrape that shit off, the magnet doesn't work as well and doesn't self-distruct.

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>>6900810
North is a direction not a segment. They're tendency to repel or attached is affected by their alignment not proximity.

In general example, it doesn't matter how close 2 magnets' poles are together, because it only matters if there's a south pole between them if they are going to attract or repel from each other. And, this generalization works down to the scale of single atoms and molecules acting as magnets within a magnet you could hold in your hand. But, we don't know why anything behaves this way.

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6901930

I have a magnetic monopole among my various knick knacks
Lemme try to find it and time stamp

>> No.6902147
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6902147

These faggotts know nothing, 'magnetism' is now recognised as an external solar effector force rather than an inherent material property. If you look CLOSELY at the picture, vast quantities of ionised hyrdrogen (+ve & -ve) are 'blowing' into our planets poles every day. It is only this self-referencing system that PROTECTS us from solar wind that allowed life on the planet to start. Magnetism is a property of external imfluences, not a property of material, its 'ability to explode' is restricted by this factor.

>> No.6902215

>>6902147
I am study at Moskva inztitut of Biological sciense, we know aves fly and migrat using this, aves are not magnetik

>> No.6902298

is it true that there are huge manufactures at the nord and south pole producing positiv and negativ magnets by using the natural magnetic field?

>> No.6902656

>>6902147
nice!

>> No.6902688

>>6902147
wow m8, you just completely overturned all of physics

I wouldn't have believed you but the diagram is pretty fukkin convincing

11/10 did lick

>> No.6902689

http://teachingexcellence.mit.edu/inspiring-teachers/walter-lewin-8-02-lecture-21-magnetic-materials

Start at ~15:00.

If you're interested in the mechanics behind the magnetic domains this may help you: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1977/vleck-lecture.pdf

If you want something more precise/detailed you'll need to get a book i guess. I can recommend "Ferromagnetic Materials: Structure and Properties" by McCurie. There are tons of other books about this stuff though.

>> No.6902728

>>6901819

No-one knows. The current theory is that God did it.

>> No.6904475

>>6902215

Do fish also have the same sensors?

>> No.6906349

what happens is the magnet DOES blow itself up at the quantum atomic level, leaving only an atom of north and an atom of south, but then they attract and find each other again within one planck second, so you don't notice it.

>> No.6906351

>>6901774
You lying and getting me pissed

>> No.6906518

>>6901717
>polarity
>traced down

magnetism has been explained at the quantum mechanical level of sub-atomic particles.

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>>6902147
>Magnetism is a property of external imfluences, not a property of material, its 'ability to explode' is restricted by this factor.
what the fuck did I just read.
this is a science board.

>> No.6906567

Magnetism doesn't exist

There's just the electric force and relativity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0

also maybe the electric force is just gravity curled up through extra dimensions, so maybe that's not real either

>> No.6906583

>>6906567
Electrical force doesn't exist.

There's just magnetism and relativity.

>hurrrr

or how about we go with the proper and widely accepted nomenclature and call it electro-magnetism? no? the autism runs strong with this one.

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>>6906567
>>6906583

Electromagnetism doesn't exist

It is just the electroweak force and the Higgs Mechanism

>HURRR DURRRR

>> No.6906613

Think of it like this.

You have countless atoms which are composed of positive and negative charged particles. In a metal, the negative charged particles, i.e. valence electrons, freely move throughout the metal. When the metal is magnetized, the electrons are all forced to move in the same way. When the electrons move, they produce photons. These photons are the magnetic field.

This is my layman's understanding of it.

>> No.6906614

>>6906567
minute physics is so fucking gay
like your post

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>>6906567
Thanks!

>> No.6906634

>>6900810
There are no magnetic monopoles. Every magnet no matter how small has both "south" and "north".

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>>6906567

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>>6906583
>Electrical force doesn't exist

Nope. The electric force is fundamental, because the electric change is fundamental

>There's just magnetism and relativity.

Nope. There is no such thing as a fundamental force of magnetism. All magnetism fundamentally has to come from electric charges and relativity. There is no other way to create it.

>how about we go with the proper and widely accepted nomenclature and call it electro-magnetism?

Because it is misleading. The term "electromagnetism" was developed when we thought electricity and magnetism were on equal footing. We now know they are not, but we kept the term anyway because of convention. However, all fundamental terminology since then has dropped the word "magnetic.

>> No.6906650

>>6906583
>Electrical force doesn't exist

lrn2standrdmodel

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>>6906567