/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.6821584]

Should I go to college or should I self study?

I don't care about the diploma.

[Anonymous No.6821616]

If you're smart enough to teach yourself, then stay home... But I highly doubt you will have the same efficiency studying by yourself and studying under supervision

[Anonymous No.6821621]

Depends, what are your chances of getting into a top tier university?

[Anonymous No.6821628]

Depends what field
If STEM then it's definitely worth it just for the seal of approval, but if it's something like film or writing or something, you don't really need it.

[Anonymous No.6821629]

>>6821628
CS

[Anonymous No.6821630]

We need more information to help you with that

[Anonymous No.6821631]

>>6821584
Self study Physics and CS
Get a degree in Engineering and Pure Math

[Anonymous No.6821633]

>>6821629
CS is laughably easy to learn on your own

http://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/mit-challenge/

[Anonymous No.6821652]

>>6821584
do both

[Anonymous No.6822416]

>>6821629

[Anonymous No.6822474]

>>6821584
While you might not care about the diploma, others will (unfortunately). See if you can get some decent scholarships to come out on top. The self-made scientist/etc. is kinda of a thing of the past and a talking point amongst living self-made scientists.

[Want a Great Scientific Career(...) No.6822478]

>>6822416
Back in the real world…

>That's right: According to BLS, 62% of the growth in jobs in science-related fields will be in CS. That's more than 750,000 new jobs, and a total of more than 1,350,000 job openings. How does that compare with the number of degrees likely to be granted by U.S. institutions? In 2009, those institutions granted something like 95,000 CS degrees, including about 32,000 associate's degrees and fewer than 1600 PhDs. Over 10 years, that adds up to more than the number of new jobs that BLS expects will be added, but significantly fewer than the number of job openings.

>It's when you compare these numbers to other fields that you realize how much better prospects are likely to be in CS. Consider that in the physical sciences, for example, BLS predicts that fewer than 36,000 new jobs will be created—a 3% increase. BLS predicts 121,900 openings in all fields of physical science, at all degree levels, before 2020. According to the National Science Foundation, about 27,000 people were granted degrees in the physical sciences in 2009, at all degree levels, including associate's degrees. Multiply that by 10 and compare. You'll quickly see that supply is predicted to surpass demand.

>Finding: All indicators—all historical data, and all projections—argue that CS is the dominant factor in America's science and technology employment, and that the gap between the demand for CS talent and the supply of that talent is and will remain large.

>While there will be inevitable variations in demand for every field, the long-term prospects for employment in CS occupations in the US are exceedingly strong. All other S&T fields pale by comparison.

http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/2013_03_25/caredit.a1300053

PS: Keep trolls in /b/… read the rules.

[Anonymous No.6822487]

>>6822478
>implying you need a cs degree to get cs jobs
>implying a cs degree help at all at getting cs jobs

0/10

[Anonymous No.6822492]

>>6821584
If you care about a job you should study at college. Hell, if you want to meet new people and try new things you should study at college.

If you study better with external motivation (i.e. most people) go to college.

You will have to be prepared for it to change your way of thinking though, and you'll still have to take every opportunity if you want to make the most of it.

[Want a Great Scientific Career(...) No.6822495]

>>6822487
hahaha… you're a fucking retard and your trolls are extremely bad. go hone your trolling skills in >>>/b/ and >>>/hm/

[Anonymous No.6822507]

>>6822495
/sci/ has already explained this over and over again. Some highlights:

>>5982685
>With a CS degree alone without further qualifications you are factually unemployable. Neither the primitive GUI design in java nor the shallow hardware, database or network intro will qualify you for a job. The only people getting acceptable jobs with a CS degree are those who either combined it with another degree or who already had a job before because they self-learned important skills. Quite a few CS students openly told me they are only getting the degree just to have something on paper to force their boss to give them higher salary. The job they already had because they started web design / programming / security in high school. Having demonstrable experience in those is more important to an employer than what you learned in CS. The business monkey variety of retards is even more unemployable. Representatives of local industries explicitly said the degree is trash because these people know neither economics/business nor computing.

>>5981331
>The math and theoretical CS are even more laughable. The only people who complain about their hardness are those stereotypical video game retards who already failed their math classes in high school. All the "muh logical quantifiers", "let's mindlessly apply this symbolic manipulation algorithm", "oh wow, an automaton represents a language" or "holy shit, how do I show this algorithm does what it does" babby crap is shallow and hardly deserves to be called university level. A mathematician or a physicsist who is trained in reading definitions, theorems and proofs can pick up all of a BSc computer scientist's theoretical CS much more indepth by spending one or two afternoons of reading a book.

[Anonymous No.6822526]

>>6822487
>0/10
NEET detected