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Why can't we combine Gall-Peters and Mercator together to create a perfect map that's both accurate to size and shape?

>> No.6683582

why can't we have a 3d map readily available online period

>> No.6683598

>>6683582
I don't know, it just seems extremely stupid to me we can't have a proper flat map.
I mean just look at how horrible Gall-Peters looks because it distorts shapes so horribly, but then Mercator distorts size the further away from the Equator you go until Antarctica becomes a monster.

>> No.6683601

>>6683582
>>6683598
>Muh Theorema Egregium

>> No.6683611

Because piece of shit euros despise everything that is science.

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>>6683611
>euros despise science

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6683661

How about Fuller projection?

>> No.6683667

No Africa being that large is bad.

>> No.6683672

>>6683661
Absolutely confusing.

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>>6683661


Fuck you for making me crane my deck. Shit hurt damnit

>> No.6683682

>>6683661
this gave me cancer

>> No.6683683

>>6683580
Because there's no effective way of accurately mapping a sphere to a plane.

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6683689

>Africa being that large is bad

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6683701

The world at 15:30 UTC

>> No.6683718

Its not possible in this universe. Its as fundamentally not possible as... Pi being what it is.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorema_Egregium

>> No.6684053

>>6683580
Why don't you just use a globe?

>> No.6684079

>>6684053
Or a 2D simulation of one, or a book with like 20 degree rotations of a globe.

>> No.6684081

>>6683661
I like it, at least.

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Waterman butterfly all the way

>> No.6684160

>>6684119
It's actually shit when it comes to naval navigation,

>> No.6684274

>>6683580

>why can't we imbed an n-sphere into Euclidean (n-1) space without loss of information?

Anon, if you find a way, get back to us.
(le ebin captcha: blackcock meedsnf)

>> No.6684278

>>6684274

Actually, it's an n-ball. Regardless, it's still impossible to map from an r-dimensional space with no edges to an r-dimensional space with one edge and not lose any information on shape OR size.

>> No.6684279

>>6684160
Naval Navigation is less important these days than accurate representation of locations and sizes of continents

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6684286

What about Winkel tripel projection?

>> No.6684925

>>6683661
>Africa is a sideways Australia

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>>6684286
I would prefer the Mollweide projection because it's equal-area.
Rule of thumb: Greenland has about the area of the southern part of India (that extends into the Indian Ocean).

www.die.net/earth/mollweide.html

>> No.6685863

>>6683580
We can, it's called a globe

>> No.6685867

People seriously wasted their careers making all their own globe maps? Seriously, how many do we fucking need?

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6685870

What is unwinding.

>> No.6686003

>>6684279
B-but internet is full of pirates..

>> No.6686005

>>6683661
Greenland is really screwed up

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why not give werner a try? it makes it look like every landmass got thrown into a blender!

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6686270

or we could go littrow

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maybe its time for retroazimuthal back hemisphere?

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>>6686272
sorry, thats hammer retroazimuthal back hemisphere.

how about hammer retroazimuthal front hemisphere

>> No.6686280

or we could solve all of this very quickly by using fucking google earth

>> No.6686291

>>6686260
>>6686270
>>6686272
>>6686277
My mind is full of fuck

>> No.6686421

>>6686270
>>6686272
What am I supposed to do with this?

>> No.6686446

>>6685867
Probably not as many as we have, but a few. You use different projections depending on what you are trying to display and analyze.

>> No.6686977

Okay who added this stupid shit to the theorema egregium wiki page?

>An application of the Theorema Egregium is seen in a common pizza-eating strategy: A slice of pizza can be seen as a surface with constant Gaussian curvature 0. Gently bending a slice must then roughly maintain this curvature (assuming the bend is roughly a local isometry). If one bends a slice horizontally along a radius, non-zero principal curvatures are created along the bend, dictating that the other principal curvature at these points must be zero. This creates rigidity in the direction perpendicular to the fold, an attribute desirable when eating pizza, as it holds its shape long enough to be consumed without a mess.

>> No.6686990

>>6686977
Has anyone seen my diaphragm? It was near my stomach before I read that post.

>> No.6686998

>>6686990
Just popped into view on the Rosetta livestream

>> No.6687005

>>6686977
Sounds about right to me. What are you, some kind of knife and fork Chicago deep dish eatin finocchio?