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Are they one of the worst threats to the earth and it's atmosphere?
Pic very related

>> No.6629392

>>6629384
Nope, politicians are, because they listen to them.

>> No.6629393

I don't want to be a part of this Mother Earth cult thank you very much.

The wealthy and powerful of the world know much more than we do about these things and if they were really worried about the earth going up in flames then you can be assured they'd be doing something about it. This leads me to believe that the whole climate change nonsense is designed for the consumption of we plebs.

>> No.6629397

>>6629384
>global warming deniers
>science
pick one

>> No.6629398

>>6629393
1/10

>> No.6629405

>>6629393
>The wealthy and powerful of the world know much more than we do
This is where you are wrong.

>> No.6629410

>>6629393
Rich and powerful people are often stupid and in denial. They aren't all flawless evil supergeniuses.

People just fuck up and make bad decisions, rich or poor.

>> No.6629447

>>6629410
but they have the power and easy access to those doing the research and influences. yet the powerful do nothing, and even PROFIT from the theory of global warming...

>> No.6629451

>>6629447
I have the power to actually do shit instead of browse 4chan. yet i don't.

people aren't rational. get used to it.

>> No.6629455

>>6629447
>but they have the power and easy access to those doing the research
like anyone with access to Google

>> No.6629585
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>>6629384
Not really. As people mentioned, it is the politicians who listen to the deniers instead of the panels of climatologists paid to inform politicians that is the danger. Most deniers are woeful victims of misinformation, fueled by a distrust towards the liberal/Democratic government bodies, much like creationists.

This can be counteracted with education.

>> No.6629593

>>6629451
>>6629455
>implying the data is reliable
>implying human-made global warming isn't politically/economically motivated
>implying science itself is not influenced by power, money and / or politics

>>6629585
>education
>not the same as indoctrination

>> No.6629594

>>6629384
hell no
climate change isn't happening, you stupid fuck. if you'd listen to Rush Limbaugh you'd know that. all they have is graphs and fabricated evidence.

end of discussion

>> No.6629597

AGW is just the latest made up reason that environmentalists use to support their arguments for why people should be kept in poverty and quality of life for everyone should suck.

>> No.6629621

not related but i focking love reading the comments from anti-vaxxers, it's pure comedy.

>> No.6630030

>>6629621
I used to use a VAX back in the day.

>> No.6630090

>>6629597
why do they want that?

>> No.6630101

>>6629393
As someone who knows super rich politicians and plutocrats, I gotta say–that's bullshit.

They're just as self-deluded and petty as we are. There's no conspiratard "ultra-affluent" black box. No virgin-sacrificial rituals.


All the bullshit that the super rich pull–it's because they're just like everybody else. Just like you, they're paranoid, ignorant, self-serving and human.

>> No.6630182

>>6629384
>deniers

>> No.6630235

>>6630182
Yeah that it is indeed what he said

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>>6629594
>Limbaugh
>Facts
HAHAHA HAHAHA. HAHAH. Please post more comedy gold.

>> No.6630252

>bunch of retards thinking global warming doesn't exist because of some youtube videos they watched made by some uneducated goober

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

These are people who basically have put more time into studying the climate than you have even lived. I will take their opinion on it any day over yours.

>> No.6630385

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuGCJJUGsg

>> No.6630388
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>>6629393
>being so pathetic and hungry to prostrate yourself before higher status and/or greater money

what is the Mass Psychology of Fascism by Wilhelm Reich

3/10 because I responded and you made me remember there are actually people like this out there

>> No.6630391

>>6629384
Eh, anti-GMO luddites and their ilk give AGW deniers a run for their money.

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6630398

ITT: Summer

I bet all of you fucking love science

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>>6630398

>> No.6630443

>>6629393
Earth's polar regions have frozen & thawed many times in the past and they will do so many times in the future. To say these things are anthropogenic is vain arrogance.

>> No.6630452

I don't deny global warming. I am not a meteorologist, hell, I am not even a phycisist. So I wont pretend to know if global warming is real or not.

However, most climate science deniers say global warming is real but that it is the sun and not fossil fuels that is behind it.

>> No.6630479

Facts:
The Earths temperature hasn't risen in 18 years (Climate-change extremists promised us it would)
The Southern icecap is actually growing, not melting.


So what do climate change extremists do when they get it wrong? Nothing, they keep telling us that we just have to accept global warming as fact despite the evidence. We have to accept that the Earth is getting hotter when it isn't, we have to accept that the ice is melting when it isn't.

>> No.6630496

>>6630479
>Facts:
>The Earths temperature hasn't risen in 18 years (Climate-change extremists promised us it would)
>The Southern icecap is actually growing, not melting.

Citation needed,

>> No.6630673

>>6630452
Global warming on itself isn't a bad thing either. When it occurs naturally. If it is caused by humanity however, it would be much too quick for nature to adapt to it. The only instances where the transition in temperature was quicker was when huge natural disasters occurred, like volcanoes and meteorites.

Even if global warming turns out to be false, pollution and destruction of nature are still very real.

People who would benefit from doubt in the actuality of global warming are people who make a profit out of trading in fossil fuel or the raw materials.

>> No.6630683

>>6630479
>Facts
1/10

>> No.6630686

>>6629384
how to make a /pol/ tard explode

tell them AGW is real but being denied by Agenda 21 world government as it's the perfect way to reduce population

>> No.6630690

>>6630090
Dunno, they're crazy I guess.

>> No.6630696

>>6630479
US was also hit by the coldest winter this year, and this morning I had to wear a sweater even though ITS SUMMER.
>I just disproved global warming
Fucking retards, I consider myself fairly conservative, but anyone who denies 100% proven fact should be stripped out of their right to vote.
It shouldn't even be debatable, we pump billions of tons of CO2 emissions in our atmosphere every year, that creates greenhouse effect.
And yeah I know that climate change occurs naturally, but to say it's only a coincidence, that it's happening right now, NOW that we've only been massively burning fossil fuels for the last 100 years, that to me sounds like total retardation.

>> No.6630705

>>6630696
>It shouldn't even be debatable
Nice anti-science there bro.

>> No.6630722

>>6630705
I think he should say that it isn't debatable because all evidence points out that it is real.

You can debate it, but stating that there's no evidence is the adult equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears yelling 'LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!'

>> No.6630742

>>6630722
>all evidence points out that it is real.
[citation needed]

It's easy to make claims, hard to back them up, and when it comes to broad sweeping claims like yours it's very hard.

The fact that you still say these generalized statements with such ease is why people call you a faggot and say that AGW is a cult of green crazy environmentalists that are trying to convert science to something that's done by policymakers and consensus votes.

>> No.6630752

>>6630696
>US was also hit by the coldest winter this year, and this morning I had to wear a sweater even though ITS SUMMER.

I find the claim that this disproves climate change funny because this is actually what a lot of climate models predict; some climate models suggest that for every two years of record-breaking heat, there will be one-year of a record-breaking cold. This ratio is expected to increase to 1:20 this century.

>>6630742
>[citation needed]

http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/publications_and_data_reports.shtml

http://acmg.seas.harvard.edu/people/faculty/djj/book/bookchap7.html

http://web.boun.edu.tr/kurnaz/eng/courses/ESC305/Houghton.pdf

That is a few books worth of research/information supporting climate change. It's a lot to read, but there is a lot supporting climate change.

>> No.6630847

>>6630752
Thanks.

>>6630742
In all honesty, I'd rather be called a faggot by people like you than be called ignorant by people that I actually look up to. And you get your satisfaction from calling other people faggots because they think differently from you.

It's pitiful.

>> No.6630896
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6630896

>worst threats to earth
not really, humanity can't do jack-shit to earth, it is however a danger to human society

>> No.6631004

>implying climate change will ever be a threat to earth
>implying the only thing it might or might not do is fuck over humans
>implying humans aren't going to do shit when its necessary

>> No.6631020

I dont truly understand the science behind climate change so i wont claim to know if its happening or not but the way green parties are planning to solve the problem is ridiculously retarded.
If the economy gets fucked over then people are going shit on the nature and vote someone else after 5-10 years. and then its time to burn all dem fossil fuels. We just need to do the jump to some proper technologies like fusion or slowly change to renewable energy sources but being all radical about it doesnt fucking help

>> No.6631041

>>6630896
We could probably do some significant geoengineering in the near future. Carbon emissions won't kill off the biosphere, or even humanity, though.