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Why are solar roadways a scam again?

>> No.6616922
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>>6616902
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT. THIS IS BETTER BE THE LAST SOLAR ROADWAYS THREAD WE HAVE.

Just watch the goddamn thunderf00t video

Fuck solar roadways, donate your money to the fusion people:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3

>> No.6616927

>>6616902
costs of installation and maintenance will never be acceptable to existing commercial and political powers.

Not to mention that the benefits would be greatly reduced by the soil, mud, and oils that accumulate on all roadways

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>>6616902
they made 2 mil $ izy money , I respect them

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>>6616922
Why? We have become exceedingly efficient at creating these threads.

>> No.6616940

>>6616902
Because turning all the roads into solar panels would take more money than the government's yearly budget several times over.

Because it would be easier, cheaper, and better to cover the road with solar panels roofs rather than replace the roads themselves, but not even that is plausible. It would be even easier, cheaper, and better to just have normal solar farms.

Because most of the claims of the inventor are pure idiocy. The solar panels can't melt snow on roadways that the sun itself wouldn't melt. The solar panels can't use recycled glass because it needs to be high quality, uncolored glass. The solar panels would be prohibitively expensive to produce and would require constant maintenance because tiles under inconsistent pressures will shift and break more than asphalt. The amount of wiring and infrastructure needed to carry the energy produced by the panels would be prohibitively expensive. Etc.

>> No.6617072

relevant xkcd cancer:

http://what-if.xkcd.com/102/

>> No.6617100

You idiots all think roads are cheap or something?

This tech is combining two of the most expensive things we have to pay for in the world, power generation and roads, and combining them. How is that anything but extremely efficient?

retards

>> No.6617112

thunderf00t explained it pretty well:

-LEDS do not show up well in daytime, especially at the obtuse angle you'd see them driving down a road.

-It doesn't matter how you treat glass, it's still way too easy to damage. Not to mention the dirt and cars covering it.

And perhaps most importantly: There are hundreds of better places to put solar panels: on top of roofs, to the side of roads, on top of shades in parking lots, etc, and these don't require tearing up a perfectly functional infrastructure already in place.

>> No.6617117

>>6616902
op can not into dust to dust analysis

>> No.6617153

>>6616902
>The solar panels can't melt snow on roadways that the sun itself wouldn't melt.
wat.
> solar panel is connect to battery
> battery is connected to a resistive heater.
> heater heats up road and melts snow or ice.
>>6617072
> calls it cancer
> posts it anyway
can't lose I guess

>> No.6617159

Solar energy is already struggling to be economically viable, having cars drive on solar panels is not going to help that.

>> No.6617173

>>6617100
>This tech is combining two of the most expensive things we have to pay for in the world, power generation and roads, and combining them. How is that anything but extremely efficient?

Its very efficient. It will never work. And we'll never afford it. Infrastructure is a liability not an asset. Making them into power-production devices is, in theory, a plus, but economically, technically, and practically its nowhere near to being efficient.

Roads are a huge liability. We've got too many and they all suck money constantly. Solar is great- its a zero carbon energy source but we still have carbon-sucking people out running around just spewing carbon. Give them more cheaper energy and they'll just spew more carbon.

>> No.6617185

I'm fairly sure the idea came from pokemon. Sunnyville city in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum had this before I heard about it actually discussed irl.

>> No.6617190

Because driving over tiles rocks them as the wheels travel from one end to the other. In not but a short time you have nearly every god damn tile tilted out of position.

>> No.6617194

>>6617190
Do you really think these tiles will be installed simply by plopping them on the ground?

>> No.6617195

>>6617072
The comic is boring but the what ifs are neat.

>> No.6617196

>>6617194
IIRC they're bolted down some how. Doesn't really make a difference. The holes will be wallowed out and you get the same problem.

>> No.6617202

>>6617196
And performing maintenance is impossible

>> No.6617208

Oh, heres an interesting thought. They'll have to mount the panels on some kind of foundation, right? Like perhaps something sturdy that can be paved, right? Their idea is basically building two roads one on top of the other.

>> No.6617218

>>6617208
Every kind of pavement has to be laid on top of a foundation. You don't just go out and roll asphalt on a grassy field.

>> No.6618494

>>6616922
>https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/focus-fusion-empowertheworld--3
>fusion

You blew it

>> No.6618505

The idea is super stupid in all kinda ways. You shouldn't stick the delicate expensive high technology in literally the place with the most wear and tear on the whole goddamn planet.
Building Solar panels somewhere in the desert and building normal roads is cheaper by orders of magnitude.

>> No.6618588

>>6616922
How much potential does this have of actually succeeding

>> No.6618647

>>6617173
>infrastructure is a liability
wut