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What's the hardest college/uni class /sci/ has ever taken?

>> No.6597186

>>6597180
> hardest as in made me cry
Design of thermo
> hardest as in consistently low grades
failure analysis

>> No.6597187

>>6597180
woman's studies

>> No.6597207

>>6597180
calc III :3

>> No.6597214

Pottery. Grades on how nice my pots are. Expected to be at college level skill in pottery yet still at preK level.
Final project exploads in oven so I have to spend the precious time during reading Perioid remaking it. Harder than organic chemistry, calc i II IIi iv or linear algebra.

>> No.6597224

>>6597180
Databases. Going over design and flow charts, the strict rules that govern them and why they exist wanted to make me tear my eyes out. I can see how it would be really fun for some people, but my mind hated all of that.

Organic Chemisty 1/2 definitely had the most content to study, though. Each course was several classes' worth of material. I got my one and only C+ in Organic chem 2 because I loaded my class schedule (5 classes/4 labs) without even thinking.

>> No.6597236

>>6597180
weightlifting.

>> No.6597249

>>6597214
what is calc 4?

>> No.6597252

Graphics Programming

>> No.6597275

Thermodynamics.

Seriously, fuck that shit. Worst 4 months of my life. I'm still mentally exhausted over it.

>> No.6597282 [DELETED] 

Plasma physics.

Fuck magnetohydrodynamics. I got around a 30% on the final. Average? 35%.

I did great in fluid dynamics, loved electromagnetism and statistical mechanics, but when all that shit is going on at once I had tons of problems knowing how to attack problems.

>> No.6597287

Plasma physics.

Fuck magnetohydrodynamics. I got around a 30% on the final. Average? 35%.

I did great in fluid dynamics, loved electromagnetism and statistical mechanics, but when all that shit is going on at once I had tons of problems knowing how to attack problems.

Besides that, 2nd semester quantum mechanics was probably 2nd hardest, but that was still reasonable, understandable and I did well in the class. I feel I can confidently use it to calculate things when it comes up, but if I needed to calculate plasma things, I could barely do anything without looking things up

>> No.6597290

chem 111
diff eq was a breeze

>> No.6597294

>>6597180
Quantum many-body physics. I could not into coherent state path integrals. It didn't help that I hate condensed matter physics.

>> No.6597304

Chemical Engineering Laboratory, aka "You're a big boy now, laboratory". The lab portion of the course involved analyzing fluid dynamics, reactor dynamics, mass transfer, thermodynamics, separation processes, etc using machinery and other devices that came out of grad student projects. Each lab report was done with your group of 4 students, averaging about 60 pages per report every week.

Some class time and weekend time was spent visiting oil rigs, refineries and other engineering sites that added a lot of time given to the class.

>> No.6597309

>>6597249
often differential equations

>> No.6597385

>>6597304

I have a chem E course like this in my senior year, it sounds like a ton of work, but is it cool to finally see things in action?

I have done all the calculations for this shit, but I haven't actually seen any of it in real life. Sometimes I wonder why the fuck I learned about maxwells relations or fugacity.

>> No.6597390

beat literature

>> No.6597394

>>6597180

Gradient Flows in Metric Spaces and Spaces of Probability Measures

>> No.6597395

calc 1

after that everything was a breeze

>> No.6597401

>>6597395

I hope you're serious

>> No.6597404

>>6597401
duh lol

It was hard cause I was all "woooo college I'm never gonna study or go to class"

and then got a C- and haven't had much trouble since.

>> No.6597406

>>6597394
>Gradient Flows in Metric Spaces and Spaces of Probability Measures

^^^^^ Guys what is wrong with you!? Didn't you see my comment!? Aren't you impressed!? It means I am really smart!!!!

>> No.6597407

>>6597404
>>6597395
wat
calc 2 is about a 10 times harder than calc 1

>> No.6597413

>>6597406
>>>6597394 (You)
>>Gradient Flows in Metric Spaces and Spaces of Probability Measures
>^^^^^ Guys what is wrong with you!? Didn't you see my comment!? Aren't you impressed!? It means I am really smart!!!!

Guys come on! Gradient flows in the space of probability measures! It is a really beautiful theory that reduces entire systems of differential equations to single curves in an infinite dimensional space!!!!

>> No.6597419

Group theory in physics, I didn't know, but it was a graduare course and I was only in my fourth semester, but still got a good grade with a bit help from a genious friend
>>6597287
but this I can say is the hardest most complicated shit I've ever seen, so much effects are going on
it is so fucking complicated, but still got the best grade in class

>> No.6597421

>>6597404

So it thought you to apply yourself? Because I got a test tomorrow and here I am.

>lesson not learned

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6597431

>>6597413
>TFW you got a phd in applied mathematics

>TFW your applied mathematics isn't really applied to anything

>TFW you can't get a research job in your field

>TFW you go to Codecademy to desperately try to learn an employable skill

>> No.6597438

Algebraic Topology. So fucking difficult. Overwhelmingly abstract, even for a math major. It's like dropping acid every day.

>> No.6597442

programming c.

simply because of how impossibly boring the subject is, making studying it impossible.

>> No.6597446

>>6597442
>studying programming - not liking programming

u did what?

>> No.6597452

>>6597180
Communications, literally the most grueling, mind numbing, soul crushing class I have ever ever taken. Literally just piles of busy work about common sense bullshit some stupid fagots with a useless major sat around thinking up to peddle in overpriced textbooks.

>> No.6597453

Differential geometry

>> No.6597455

>Hard as in time for effort?
Optics
>Hard as in actual difficulty?
US Government

I'm absolutely terrible at rote memorization

>> No.6597457

>>6597446
to be honest there's more to the subject than C despite what pro/g/grammers will say.

>> No.6597458

>>6597438
Had a couple friends who took that as an undergrad at the graduate level. It killed one of them. The other, the professor was so impressed that he got an A in the class that he made some phone calls. Dude got accepted to graduate school at Utah without ever applying.

>> No.6597460

>>6597452
Reminds me of anthropology.
>Don't truly understand anything. MEMORIZE MEMORIZE MEMORIZE.
Multiple choice tests over fucktons of memorized vocabulary.

>> No.6597461

Applications of inter-universal Teichmüller theory to Diophantine geometry.

>> No.6597462

>>6597461
Is that you Shinichi Mochizuki?

>> No.6597463
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6597463

>>6597180
Stat Phys... seriously, fuck Stat Phys. Especially fuck Stat Phys with Schroeder's "Thermal Physics".

>Get weekly assignment
>Assignment is five problems from one chapter
>Problem #1
>Part A
>References the derivations and solutions of a problem from three chapters ago that we weren't even assigned
>Takes two hours of tedious, pointless number crunching
>Repeat for Parts B thru Q
>Repeat for problems 2 thru 5
>Repeat every week

>> No.6597493

>>6597438
nigga i know you was telling me about algebraic topology on /mu/ a couple weeks ago

>> No.6597494

>>6597463
just sounds like you had a shitty prof

>> No.6597521

Mathematical Methods on my second year

>> No.6597553

>>6597394
What is that?

>> No.6597556

>>6597455
Poli sci goes in one ear and immediately out the other. Thank god I only had to take US Gov in high school and never again.

>> No.6597595
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6597595

Genetics. Fail rate of like 90% at my school.

>tfw got an A and held my tongue when everyone else complained about the difficulty

>> No.6597609

>>6597438
This class was easy for me I got an A. I was told Abstract Algebra should be rough to but I thought it was only slightly more difficult than Topology. The fucking hard class is fucking Analysis. Fuck that shit

>> No.6597618

Fluid mechanics, 3 weeks of studying, barely passed.

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6597640

Electrical Plant:
>Three phase analysis
>Three phase transformers
>DC motors
>Induction motors
>Synchronous Machines

Kill me

>> No.6597692

>>6597640
>>6597618
i feel you guys , had the same things

>> No.6597713

>>6597521
hahahahaha you failed a fucking methods class
you poor ausfag

>> No.6597719

Hardest to get a good grade in?
Organic Chem.
Hardest to actually understand the material?
Probably spectroscopy

>> No.6597730

>>6597460
>multiple choice
>hard

>> No.6597732

Metamorphic Petrology

dunno why

>> No.6597734

>>6597713
I didn't fail it, it was just hard

>> No.6597741

>>6597734
>methods
>hard
choose one

>> No.6597742

>>6597249
Stokes theorem, green theorem etc in Greece.

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6597743

Compute the projection of the point P(107,-243,89) on the plane x=5
I found real solution (left part of the picture) and i do not understand why my solution (left) is wrong/

>> No.6597746

>>6597742
We studied those in Calc 2 (in China)
>>6597741
>dick waving
It was the hardest for me, that's by no means an objective evaluation

>> No.6597752

>>6597743
Don't bother i get it.
U always understand it AFTER posting.FFS.

>> No.6597773

>>6597407
> calc 2 is about a 10 times harder than Calc 1

y'know everyone always says that, but I thought they were both rather easy. All Calc 2 really is is remembering the different integration/ summation equations and what not. It truly isn't that hard.


My hardest class so far was physics 1 though

>tfw sophomore EE major and I have to take physics 2 in the fall and I am already scared about it

>> No.6597774

Equal worst marks in Chem 2 and Quantum Mechanics and Special Relativity

My head cannot into special relativity, the exam was probably the 3 worst hours of my life

>> No.6597798

My hardest class was "graphing linear equations". It made me almost drop out of my bio major.

>> No.6597803

Honors numerical analysis @ UC Berkeley. The Professor failed the entire class. The. entire. class.

>> No.6597807

>>6597431
bullshit

>> No.6597817

>>6597773
it was hard for me because of all the conics and parametric equations.
Plus we couldn't have notes on our test, so we had to memorize nearly all the equations.
and we had to take the class at 8 am.
that was a biggie for me.

>> No.6597818

>>6597798
as a biologist, algebra 2 was the hardest for me

>> No.6597842

>>6597798
You joke, but I like mathematics and fucking hate having to draw graphs

I mean, I don't mind drawing them for myself, but when I have to draw them neatly for someone, Jesus fuck, it's like I suddenly become Stephen Hawking

>> No.6597868

>>6597180
>hardest as in made me cry and do it 4times
thematic cartography. Countless facts, little to no diversion from what's written in the book, little logic.

i'd rather have a calc3 exam any day

>> No.6597875

>>6597803
dang bub

>> No.6597882

the only times it has been hard for me was when I knew I didn't understand the material well enough to apply it on the exam; which was my own fault because It just boiled down to me not trying hard enough.

>> No.6597883

Out of the following classes, which would /sci/ anticipate to be most challenging?

>Modern Algebra
>Data Structures and Algorithms
>Diff Eqs
>Foundations of Mathematical logic

>> No.6597923

>>6597494
The class before and after both had different profs and had the same general experience.

Stat Phys is just a shitty subject and Schroeder is just a shitty text.

I think the biggest problem IMO is that unlike most of the other fields you study as an undergrad, Stat Phys never really boils down to a couple of fundamental equations and ideas.

E&M, Mechanics, QM, even Astrophysics all basically come down to applying or re-deriving things from a set of like half a dozen equations.

With Stat Mech, there's about a billion different equations for every conceivable scenario and if you can't remember one of them, there's only a simple way to re-derive it from basics about 10% of the time.

>> No.6597948

>>6597773
What do "Physics 1" and "Physics 2" consist of

>> No.6597980
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6597980

>>6597807

Nope. It is really frustrating, actually. Sure if I *had* done financial mathematics, or if I *had* done numerical analysis or if I *had* done fluid mechanics then I could easily find a job. But I didn't do either of those 3 topics. I have yet to find any job that cares about differential equations outside of those three topics. If you can suggest something I would really appreciate it. I had been preparing big time to do mathematics research, but the jobs in that field are tightening at the exact time a ton of new ph ds in math are coming out, so that is seeming more and more like a pipe dream. So now I have to re-evaluate my life a bit. I wonder if anyone could give me some advice: I'm interested in computers and stuff, are there any tasks in computer-anything that require solving differential equations? I know how to use matlab and some basic python, but I'm really good at solving and analyzing differential equations. I know this is 4chan but this is a serious question so if you have any advice I would really appreciate it.

>> No.6597981

>>6597742

THose are calc 3 in USA

>> No.6598006

>>6597948
Nothing.

>> No.6598041

>>6597948
it's like the calculus based physics stuff. velocity, acceleration, forces, energy, harmonics is physics 1

waves, electricity, etc is physics 2

>> No.6598057

>>6597236
>>>/fit/

>> No.6598060

Intro to real analysis. Also discrete structures was pretty difficult at the time. Counting just isn't my thing.

>> No.6598075

fluid transport phenomena in nanomaterials
the horror

>> No.6598076

>>6597493
ya, that was me. Hope you've been learning about it. While studying for the final, I found these lectures on youtube. I usually don't like watching online lectures, but these were very helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL41FDABC6AA085E78
>>6597609
really? I thought analysis was easy. And so was abstract algebra. Weird how that works. I spent more time studying algebraic topology than any other class I've ever taken and still barely managed a B (I don't even think I deserved that grade. I suspect the professor saw that I was putting a ton of effort into the class and gave me that grade out of pity), yet I hardly even studied for analysis or abstract algebra and routinely got A's on the exams. I guess certain things just come easy to different people.

>> No.6598078

probably the fusion class i took last semester. ask me in a few months and it will probably be the fusion class im taking next semester

>> No.6598091

Genetics module about the construction of plasmids/genomes, taught by a seventy year old giant in the field who didn't like handouts or diagrams.
This was simultaneous with our slightly-higher-level genetics course, so the stuff we needed to know to understand the course we'd only been taught the day before, and the guy stood there and droned at us for an hour twice a week.

>Nigga, you just making sure no-one answers your question because you hate marking.

After exams, two other Profs independently told me his questions were literally the easiest on the paper, and the least answered.
Every. Fucking. Year.

>>6597746
> (in China)
>dick waving
>It was the hardest for me

I thought you were making a penis joke.
I feel racist now.

>> No.6598098

English as a second language.

>> No.6598110

>>6597980
Good luck bro.
Don't get stuck with an ok degree in a low-level job like I did.

Different field though.

>> No.6598113

>>6598110
Thanks, yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid.

>> No.6598135

>>6598113
To be fair, I'm also a lazy shit, not just unlucky with the job market, so don't be a lazy shit either (doesn't sound like that's your problem though).

I got all excited about protein folding chaperones thanks to my undergrad dissertation, and then it turns out not many people are doing interesting work in it on this side of the planet, and then I couldn't get a job anyway, and I couldn't face more Uni time at that point, and then jesuschristit's2014suddenly.

Anyway, this is not my Livejournal.

Have you tried asking your department (post-grads and professors, not not not Uni careers advisers) what's available?

>> No.6598160

>>6598135

Thanks, yeah this is a tough question. So I have asked around a bit. My advisor, who's a nice guy and all, but told me he has absolutely no idea how to find a job outside academia. A lot of professors here are like that. Then there are soe math finance profs who are really into that world, and some numerical analysis profs who send their students to places like Boeing or Dept of Defense jobs, but besides the students in those fields (like myself) have all been applying to academic jobs. Ironically this year none of us found any (a big difference from years past when it wasn't such a problem). Other students more like me have decided to stay an extra year. But my thesis work was already done so my professor pressured me to just get the PhD already. which is nice except not I don't have the extra year my colleagues have in the academia cocoon if you know what I mean.

The main issue I see is this: there are many fields to go in from a math background, but each one requires additional specialization that excludes the others. So it is a lot like shooting an arrow and trying to make sure it lands in the right place in 6 months to a year from now.

>> No.6598161

>>6598135
>jesuschristit's2014suddenly

>Look for a job to start paying back stuff
>Decent jobs either have retarded requirements or too far away
>Suddenly 1 year later
>Could have had a shit job and paid everything back by now
>Could have had shit for my resume, no matter how irrelevant
>Didn't even study anything last year

>> No.6598176

>>6598161
Ah, it's worse, dear Anon.

>Get job.
>Pay is ok.
>Job is mildly interesting.
>Job is somewhat relevant to my interests.
>Job is not too stressful.

>i am suddenly old and dying.

>> No.6598217

>>6598176
>>6598161
>>6598160
>>6598135
>>6598110
>>6597980
>>6597431
As a student planning on pursuing a math Ph.D I am very concerned with this discourse. I just want to be a professor. Are these jobs really so hard to get? What do I need to do to stand out and ensure I can get a job being a professor at a university while also doing research? I am beginning my third year.

>> No.6598240

>>6598217
>As a student planning on pursuing a math Ph.D I am very concerned with this discourse. I just want to be a professor. Are these jobs really so hard to get? What do I need to do to stand out and ensure I can get a job being a professor at a university while also doing research? I am beginning my third year.


This is a great question since I am now where you will be in 7 years (more or less) if you pursue this math. (BTW I'm the frog faced guy hanging himself with the feels differential equation.) Anyway, from what I've seen, if you are willing to do financial mathematics then that is probably the best growing field if you really want to become a professors. Mathematical finance programs are growing. That being said it still isn't a cakewalk, but it is probably better than any other field. If you pursue mathematical finance with the intention of becoming a professor, I would guess you have a 30% chance of actually getting such a job. If you go into any other field of applied math, you have about 8% chance of ultimately becoming a professor, and any other field of math you are likely talking 1% chance. These numbers aren't from my ass, check out the American Mathematical Society's website for more info: ams.org they keep all the employment statistics for this profession. However I should note that above when I said "professor" I mean "research professor". If you are willing to teach at middle-of-nowhere liberal arts colleges then you will probably have no problem if you graduate from a top 20 program in anything. That may be your cup of tea, for some people it is paradise, but for myself it is a little too much like being a high school teacher.

If you're willing to be like a high school teacher, look into the Newton Fellowship programs. They will pay for you to get a masters in math education and then supplement your salary for the first 5 years, and there are no strings attached, you can even leave the program early (although they don't want you too...

>> No.6598253

>>6597431
If you know Statistics well, you can search for jobs in the actuary or financial sectors.

>> No.6598255

>>6598217
>>6598240

continued...

so yeah if I had wanted to be a professor like a high school teacher then I would have gone for a Newton fellowship which is a pretty sweet deal.

but Anyway the idea of being a research professor in academia is going the way of the do do bird and has been since the early 90s. (There's a lot of reasons for that time, 1. The iron curtain fell meaning all this soviet talent fled west. 2. Mandatory retirement ages in academia were disposed of, so professors that would have retired and opened up new jobs when they hit 70 now stay on until they die at 90.)

If you are going to pursue a Ph D in math only do it because you love math, not because you plan on becoming a professor. In this sense I don't regret getting a ph d at all because I really do love math. But in hindsight I would have taken some programming courses as well. So in the end here is my advice:

1. If you do math finance or numerical analysis then you will not have problems finding a job.

2. If you don't do either of those then I suggest instead of learning math and then finding problems to apply it to, find industry problems you find interesting and try to become an expert in the math of *that* problem.

3. Learn python!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6598260

>>6598253

Finance yes, though a phd in math finance is more relevant. Getting a ph d in statistics to do actuary work though is like building a soyez spacecraft to drive to the supermarket: overkill and barely relevant. A lot of what actuaries do in practice is "plug and chug" as far as the math goes. The harder part of their job is dealing with all the regulations and laws around whatever it is they are insuring/analyzing.

>> No.6598274

>>6597224
>databases
>not an easy A+

wtf man

Hardest for me was by far Operations Research II, terrible fucking class

>> No.6598672

>>6598255

Why learn python?

>> No.6598674
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6598674

Thermo II

>> No.6598678

>>6598672
> Why python
www.stat.washington.edu/~hoytak/blog/whypython.html

>> No.6598680

>>6597304
Is Unit Ops "hurrr infinity-page group reports" the same at every ChemE school?

>> No.6599907

please respond >>6597883

>> No.6599918

>>6598674
#damn

>> No.6599920

>>6598678
>10 reasons for Python
>lists 10 things that are valid for most languages

>> No.6599948

I do straight Physics

Hardest to get a good mark in: Lab or 'General Physics' - a module combining all areas of physics in unseen problems. Requires you to remember everything you did since starting your degree and before

Hardest as in most challenging - Statistical Physics (which included thermodynamics). Couldnt follow lectures at all, very hard and very difficult to motivate yourself to study it. It was horrendous. Atomic & Quantum physics were obviously quite hard but I put loads of time in and got good marks

>> No.6599964

Art History

>memorize 200 pages worth of dates and artists every two-three weeks
>fucked on quizzes and tests if you don't memorize/remember the specific dates
>subject is boring as fuck, so trying to memorize the pages is Hellish

>> No.6599966

>>6599948
>I do straight physics

Is this the opposite of engineering?

>> No.6599988

Intro to proofs.

Calc is really easy.
Freshman Physics is really easy.

But fuck, set theory proofs are a whole other way to look at math that I wasn't fully prepared for.

For fellow math majors, what is the hardest undergrad math?

>> No.6600016

>>6597180
Statistical Mechanics

>> No.6600074

Fuck combinatorics.

>>6599988
I advise you to switch majors ASAP.

>> No.6600096

mechanics of materials

Years later I still have no idea how to solve those problems.

>> No.6600109

>>6600074
Why?

>> No.6600111

>>6600109
cuz ur to dumb m8 its obv from ur one post you retard leave siense to us bitch xD

>> No.6600115

>>6598674
>Plug&chug is hard
Lol!

>> No.6600121

It's fucking embarrassing to admit, but it was the honors version of chemistry 101.

I walked into that class thinking I had a 5 on AP chem, and this shit was going to be a breeze. Then the professor was a Caltech/Harvard guy, and whipped my ass so hard that I never assumed a class would be easy again. I got out with a C+, and haven't had a class that's even compared to it since.

>> No.6600124

>>6600109
Because if an ``intro to proofs'' is the hardest class you've taken and it was hard because of ``set theory proofs'' (implying set theory) then you probably aren't up for doing well as a math major.

It sounds like you think math is like calculus and stuff, and you can keep it close if you get an applied math degree and avoid anything pure, but you're going to spend your time crying in analysis / any other pure classes you need to take.

If naive set theory doesn't come to you intuitively, a math degree isn't a good idea.

>> No.6600125

>>6600121
Does AP not count for credit or something in Chem? I took Physics C and didn't bother with Honors Physics, went straight on to Level 200 physics classes.

>> No.6600134

>>6600125

Nah, it counted, but I was pre-med originally, and they wanted to see your actual grades at college instead of an AP score.

>> No.6600136

>>6600124
What I mean to say is that the computational math classes of Calc bored me, and the Intro To Proofs class was the most challenging thing I've had to take so far at Uni. The basics of set theory are straight forward, but the concept of proving things is an approach to math that I as an American student was unprepared for, being that the entirety of high school is primarily plug and chug. I got an A-.

>> No.6600146

>>6600136
It's great to make excuses, but saying things like
>the concept of proving things is an approach to math that I as an American student was unprepared for
is meaningless since lots of people are American universities are American.

Another thing, unless you're actually working out of ZFC or something, don't call it ``set theory'', call it ``naive set theory'' or just call them sets without referring to the theory.

Also, proving things isn't something you can make excuses like that you were ``unprepared for'' it when the only requirements are understanding what you need to prove and being smart enough to do so. There are very actual proof techniques you'll need to get through your undergrad career.

>> No.6600148

>>6600136
PS having an ``Into To Proofs class'' sounds really dumb, like what the heck? Proving things should be your into to proofs. I got my intro through algebra, others get theirs through analysis, but having a dedicated class is wasteful.

>> No.6600150

>>6597407
I just started Calc II and it's easy. Maybe I haven't just gotten to the hard stuff yet, though. We just finished up techniques of integration.

>> No.6600162

>>6600146
Well you spend the majority of your education honing your computational skills, you spend very little time building logic skills. Yes, everyone there was American as well, but only a select few did better than me in the class. I'm not trying to make excuses, I'm just trying to clarify my original statement. Intro To Proofs was the hardest class I've taken at Uni, but I didn't have an overwhelming amount of difficult with the course, it was just something I had to get acclimated to initially.

>> No.6600172

>>6600162
>you spend very little time building logic skills
You shouldn't need to build basic logic skills, those should be there just from being alive and going to university.

>> No.6600173

>>6600148
Well, yeah it was a class of proving things. It's a prerequisite to Real Analysis and all higher level classes where I go to uni. The beginning of the curriculum is proof strategies, like proof by contradiction, proof by induction, and basic logic, followed by naive set theory and proofs involving such, followed by what basically amounted to Euclid's Elements, followed by modular arithmetic and number theory and proofs involving such.

It was all over the place.

>> No.6600177

>>6600172
Well, 'proving' skills so to speak. As in 'what is the best way to approach this and how should I go about this'.

>> No.6600200

>>6600172
>>6600148
>>6600146
>>6600124
3rd person observer here. You're a big fucking faggot.

>> No.6600203

Hardest class I've taken was Computer Architecture. Been an easy 2 years m8s B)

>> No.6600205

>>6600200
Epic.

>> No.6600249

>>6597803
>numerical analysis
>you can math and you can program, but can you pRoGrAm MaTh???
Fuck man, that's mine too. It started off real easy, then we forgot about that stuff and nothing else made sense. Pretty sure it was the professor though, he was literally straight out of grad school & couldn't understand why people didn't get the material. (Almost) everyone was failing the class, then suddenly after the final the grades were curved massively. I think he realized he wasn't in a position to fail most of the class.

>>6598255
I'm similar to the guy you're talking to, CS undergrad going for a PhD to teach. I'm doing it for the love of knowledge & teaching, OTOH I don't have a particular interest in doing my own research. This will probably change once I'm doing some in grad school.

>> No.6600253

Philosophy. Fuck that shit.

>> No.6600423

>>6600253
>philosophy class

Why, unless you're a Philosophy major

>> No.6600427

>>6600203
I had it too in the past semester. Fuck that shit, fuck Assembly.

>> No.6600536

>>6600423
I came into university not knowing what I wanted to do.

>> No.6600576

Diagnostics of digital systems

Holy fuck i hated that class

>> No.6600693

>>6600427
I enjoyed assembly and that class in general tbh

>> No.6601066

>>6600249
>>>6598255
>I'm similar to the guy you're talking to, CS undergrad going for a PhD to teach. I'm doing it for the love of knowledge & teaching, OTOH I don't have a particular interest in doing my own research. This will probably change once I'm doing some in grad school.

If you want to teach then a Ph D in CS sounds perfect. If you want to do research, CS is probably not as tough a field as Math, since many CS ph Ds get sucked up by industry very quickly. The only thing I would honestly do differently if I started again is to find a specific set of problems that industry needs solved (now and plausibly in 5 years when you finish) and be in expert in solving those problems. My only mistake was I studied "applied mathematics" first and then looked for real-world problems to solve second. Looking around I should still have no problem finding an industry job, But because real-world applications to me were an afterthought, I have some skills that I'm working hard to try to find applications for. It's embarrassing to try to set up interviews with the thought in the back of your mind that you're only doing this because you couldn't get the job you really wanted.

>> No.6601116

>>6597249

Multivar Integration and Analytical Geometry

>> No.6601158

>>6600423
Math is a subclass of philosophy.

>> No.6601159

>>6601158
How so?

>> No.6601160

>>6601159
Math is an application of logic is a part of philosophy.

>> No.6601173

>>6601160
Also logic is a part of math and philosophy is a part of logic

>> No.6601176

>>6601173
philosophy lets us ask problems without logic

>> No.6601177

>>6601176
I love you. No homo.

>> No.6601185

>>6601176
There are a variety of logics besides familiar Aristotelian logic. In principle, all of philosophy could be logically formalized and thus brought into the realm of mathematics.

>> No.6601188

>>6601173
>Also logic is a part of math
Wrong.
>philosophy is a part of logic
Also wrong.

>> No.6601200

>>6601185
> In principle, all of philosophy could be logically formalized and thus brought into the realm of mathematics.
Assign each question a profoundness coefficient if it's a question worth repeating to freshman students.

>> No.6601225

Just finishing my second semester of physics

I wouldn't say anything was hard, really - at least not to the extend we're supposed to understand it right now.

But if I had to pick one, I'd say for physics thermodynamics is probably the hardest to learn, because deriving anything on your own is really kinda impossible.
And for the actual math we did I'd say Green functions are probably the hardest we've had.

But you know, all is relative, it's just a step at a time. Learning about green functions now is like learning about basic geometry then. I doubt it will ever get "too hard for me". I don't think there's anything I'm unable to understand in this world.

>> No.6601237

>>6597252
this was the easiest things i've ever done. in uni.
hardest would be mathematical Methods for theoretical phyics.. took me almost a year

>> No.6601242

English. I'm terrible at essay writing.

>> No.6601253

Oddly enough, Web Programming

The final wasn't hard as much as it was bullshit. They had us draw out how an HTML page was supposed to look given an HTML/CSS document, but the documents were things nobody would EVER write on a webpage. Most people got 7/20 on that section.

>> No.6601276

>>6597180
probably fluid mechanics 1 & 2

>> No.6601281

>>6597275
actually thermo 1 & 2 were great as well as heat transfer, I got the hang of it it essentailly 3 ~ 4 formula's, it was fluid mechanics the screws your sorta like thermo + mechanics + ++++++

one of my favourite subject topics was non dimentional analysis, you could probe pythagorus theorem through to how much energy is in a nuke from time pics as well as mode scaleing

>> No.6601306

>>6597521
this. gradients and stuff. it doesnt help that i suck at rearranging equations and having problems because of that.

>> No.6601340

Ochem III
One part was easy, but the other was impossible

>> No.6601359

Taking algebraic arithmetic as an undergrad.

I think it gave me a brain damage.

>> No.6601380

Optics
>approximations to remember everywhere
>first time seeing fourier transforms
>applications of FTs upon introduction
>gruelling lab portion too
guess you just had to be there. doesn't seem that bad in text

>> No.6601383

>>6597452
seconded. this was required for all majors at my university, and was integrated with public speaking. The speeches weren't so bad, but studying the material was like memorizing the a's in the phone book.

>> No.6601390

>>6597842
>algebraic topology
kek, stephen hawking

I'm the same way man. I've lost points on exams when I clearly have the right answer because my graph looks retarded

>> No.6601585

>>6597713

At my uni Math Methods was PDE's, Fourier Analysis, Advanced series analysis (asymptotic etc.) and some other shit.

This in aus too.